IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 18 August 2018 (all times are UTC)
| 00:36 | <Helenah> Whose a dev here?
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| 00:36 | I really do think there should be minimal setups too.
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| 00:36 | And I wanna present you guys with one
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| 00:37 | It would be a better solution for operating CNC machinery under an LTSP environment, MATE could easily be stripped to base components.
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| 04:57 | <sutula> Helenah: alkisg is a dev but gone now, not sure of others, but they'll likely see your notes at some point
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| 05:05 | <deepanshuG> Helenah: Hi. Can you explain what do you mean by minimal setup?
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| 05:20 | <Helenah> I'd rather use i3wm.
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| 05:20 | With the power of what a DE can provide for LTSP clients
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| 07:02 | <alkisg> Helenah: a thin chroot is minimal. On top of this, you can add whichever programs you like. Which programs you'll want to add is not a job for ltsp itself.
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| 07:03 | So the best is for you to maintain your own list of the programs you want; and if you think this would be useful for e.g. other MATE users, you could open a bug report against the mate desktop environment, so that they create a meta package for the use case you'll mention to them
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| 07:37 | !nfs
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| 07:37 | <ltsp> nfs: to enable NFS home directories for localapps and fat clients, install nfs-kernel-server on your server, nfs-common on your client (don't forget ltsp-update-image), and put this in lts.conf: FSTAB_1="server:/home /home nfs defaults,nolock 0 0"
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| 09:36 | <Fjalar> I've compared the original 010-etc-hosts on the new and on an operational (Debian 8) host. Both files are identical.
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| 09:58 | <alkisg> Fjalar: when it fails, what's the output of this? ls -lhaR /opt/ltsp/i386 | nc termbin.com 9999
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| 10:09 | <Fjalar> http://termbin.com/fjj5
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| 10:28 | <alkisg> Fjalar: that's truly bad, btw, does debootstrap work in devuan, or is it completely broken?
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| 10:41 | <Fjalar> Running.... it says "Retrieving packages".
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| 10:44 | Busy validating and retrieving dozens of packages.
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| 10:46 | Now building a directory structure in the given chroot. Looks like debootstrap is working.
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| 10:51 | After issuing # debootstrap stable test http://deb.devuan.org/merged
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| 10:51 | Last message was I: Base system installed successfully.
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| 10:52 | Looks like a complete directory structure has been set up in the test directory. No error messages, so, yes, debootstrab appears to be working.
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| 11:01 | Got to log for now, but I'll be coming back to the issue maybe tomorrow. So far, thank you very much for your assistance.
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| 19:00 | <Helenah> alkisg: I got i3wm and mate-session working nicely together. :)
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| 19:21 | <alkisg> Great! Not ltsp related, but great! :)
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| 19:21 | * alkisg has never even seen i3wm | |
| 19:38 | <ogra> tiles everywhere ;)
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| 19:38 | its like a mondrian painting for your apps ;)
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| 22:44 | <Helenah> ogra: heh
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| 22:46 | It's a good method for people who may want to use a WM. DEs use WMs, MATE uses marco, MATE is recommended in LTSP setups, typically, but there are smaller setups which someone may ask for. Just running a WM doesn't cut it, you'll have LTSP client issues when it comes to mounting, etc. You can use dconf to change the VM, and have mate-session-manager handle a very bareboned session with no GUI fancies, or
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| 22:46 | anything like that, that people may not want if they are opting for even smaller setups.
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| 22:47 | I thought about implementing gvfs, udisks2, etc myself and then running i3wm on top of that, however the mate-session-manager sets up this core stuff for you ready to use, and MATE shouldn't be all about the panels and the menus.
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| 22:49 | s/VM/WM
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