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Channel log from 2 January 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 10:55 | <fossala> Does anyone know on here if wyse r00l thin client support pxebooting?
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| 10:56 | I have looked around and cannot find any info.
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| 11:24 | <fossala> no one knows?
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| 11:37 | <knipwim> fossala: http://www.wyse.com/fulfillment/downloads/Wyse_R_Class.pdf
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| 11:37 | <fossala> That doesn't say but thanks.
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| 11:37 | <knipwim> on page 23, PXE is mentioned in protocol support
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| 11:38 | <fossala> I thought that said within the OS's
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| 11:38 | <knipwim> yup, within xp embedded
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| 11:38 | but doesn't that mean the device supports it?
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| 11:39 | <fossala> Yeah, I saw on a forum someone couldn't stop it pxe booting. So I guess it does support it.
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| 11:39 | <knipwim> hehe
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| 11:39 | <fossala> Hopefully it will work as well as my t5730.
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| 11:40 | We should make a page on the wiki of supported devices.
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| 11:40 | <knipwim> indeed
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| 11:40 | <fossala> Only cost 20quid so if it doesn't not a lot lost.
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| 11:40 | <knipwim> link it to use case descriptions
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| 12:31 | <VectorX> hi, never setup ltsp but want to learn, requirment is to use windows clients, can someone point me to a tute that shows how to setup
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| 12:52 | <muppis> lts.conf is loaded, but not used.
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| 13:10 | <fossala> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Where-can-I-find-some-1412517.S.53893798
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| 13:10 | Seems like it can do pxe booting
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| 13:11 | <Bartek> Hello, can anyone help me with an error: "ndb9: unknown parition table" ?
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| 13:16 | <muppis> Bartek, you can ignore it.
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| 13:17 | <Bartek> What does it even mean? -.-
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| 13:18 | <muppis> Image file does not meet all requirements of block device, but it doesn't affect to usage.
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| 13:59 | <Bartek> ..anyone?
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| 14:00 | <fossala> muppis said "Image file does not meet all requirements of block device, but it doesn't affect to usage."
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| 14:00 | <alkisg> "48 persons in room" :)
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| 14:00 | <fossala> Is that a lot?
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| 14:01 | <Bartek> "nbd9: unknown partition table" - what does it means? ;F
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| 14:02 | <fossala> And muppis answered it.
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| 14:02 | <Bartek> oh
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| 14:03 | well.. I can't login on thin-client, "No response from server, restarting..."
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| 14:04 | need a solution
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| 14:04 | <alkisg> !ltsp-update-sshkeys
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| 14:04 | <ltsp`> alkisg: ltsp-update-sshkeys: If you changed your server IP, you need to run ltsp-update-sshkeys, and if you're using NBD (Ubuntu) you also need ltsp-update-image afterwards
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| 14:05 | <Bartek> alskisg: tried that alredy, doesnt help
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| 14:10 | so this problem is a network-related?
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| 14:11 | <alkisg> Bartek: ok, try to troubleshoot it. First, get a local shell on the client, by doing this:
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| 14:11 | !screen_02
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| 14:11 | <ltsp`> alkisg: screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
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| 14:11 | <alkisg> Once you do that, ping me for the next step
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| 14:14 | <markit> hi, a dubt (not tested yet): "ltsp-build-client --arch i386 --fat-client --chroot fat-i386" produces "/opt/ltsp/images/fat-i386.img", if I then run "ltsp-update-image --arch i386", how can it know that has to create "fat-i386.img" and not simply "i386.img" file?
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| 14:14 | <Bartek> alkisg: yeah did that, the error "unknown partition table" comes from client's /var/log/syslog
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| 14:14 | <alkisg> Bartek: so now you have a local shell on vt2 on the client?
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| 14:15 | <Bartek> alkisg: well i just ctrl-alt-f1 to console to check all logs
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| 14:15 | <alkisg> Bartek: you have a root password there, and you can login?
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| 14:16 | <Bartek> alkisg: console - yes, i can sudo
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| 14:16 | <alkisg> Bartek: you're doing something wrong, there's no concept of "sudo" in thin clients
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| 14:17 | There's only 1 account, the root account, which doesn't need sudo,
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| 14:17 | and it's locked by default, so you must have unlocked it in order to login
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| 14:18 | <Bartek> alkisg: well i tried many things along with adding one user to "sudo users".. but nevermind, shall I proceed with the instructions about shell on screen_02?
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| 14:18 | <alkisg> Bartek: let's clear some things up first
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| 14:18 | When you try to login on the client, you use a username/password from a user that exists on the SERVER , right?
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| 14:18 | Not in the chroot....
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| 14:20 | <Bartek> alkisg: yes, exactly... but tried also with adding local-user (while chroot'ed)
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| 14:20 | <alkisg> That would break stuff. But ok proceed with the SCREEN_02 instructions
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| 14:20 | <Bartek> alkisg: ok
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| 14:20 | <alkisg> From that local root shell in screen_02, try: ssh user@server
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| 14:20 | Replace "user" with an existing username on your server
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| 14:20 | Leave "server" exactly as it is, don't replace it with your server name
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| 14:21 | See if you can login, WITHOUT any warnings at all
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| 14:21 | Time to eat, bbiab
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| 14:21 | <Bartek> alkisg: see you soon
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| 14:26 | <Bartek> alkisg: login successful via ssh...
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| 14:27 | <alkisg> Bartek: with no warnings at all? ok, now press alt+ctrl+f7 to switch to ldm and try again with the same username/password there
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| 14:28 | <Bartek> alkisg: no warnings displayed in the console 02 (Welcome to Ubuntu... ), still cant login vla LDM
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| 14:29 | <alkisg> OK bbiab :)
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| 14:33 | <Bartek> alkisg: how about I reinstall whole server again and I wont touch anything, to save your time -.-
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| 14:35 | <alkisg> Bartek: sounds like a plan :)
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| 14:36 | <Bartek> alkisg: see you tomorrow? -.-
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| 14:38 | <alkisg> You can also just rm -rf /opt/ltsp, and run ltsp-build-client
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| 14:39 | <Bartek> alkisg: did that like 3 minutes ago ;)
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| 14:51 | <Bartek> alkisg: just an info: rebuilding the client didnt help
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| 14:52 | * markit was going to ask a question to alkisg about --mount-package-cache but just found, googling, in a chat log that has been answered in feb 2011 by... alkisg :) | |
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| 16:41 | <knipwim> any LTSP Ubuntu people around?
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| 16:41 | how is the initramfs made?
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| 16:42 | more specifically, where? in the ltsp-build-client process? or somewhere else?
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| 16:49 | <alkisg> knipwim: when a new kernel is installed, update-kernels is ran, and that runs some hooks, and one of the hooks installs ltsp
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| 17:12 | <knipwim> thx, i see, ltsp-update-image is the key
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| 17:23 | <alkisg> knipwim: no, the initramfs is generated with NFS too, it's not a requirement to use NBD
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| 17:23 | (ltsp-update-image is for NBD)
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| 17:24 | $ ls /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/
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| 17:24 | functions init-premount local local-top nfs nfs-top
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| 17:24 | init-bottom init-top local-premount ltsp_nbd nfs-bottom panic
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| 17:24 | E.g. ltsp_nbd is one of our scripts, nfs-bottom/ltsp is another...
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| 17:25 | And that folder, /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/initramfs-tools, is transferred to the initramfs when the initramfs is generated
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| 17:25 | And the initramfs is generated when a new kernel is installed, either with ltsp-build-client, or from a kernel update
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| 17:39 | <knipwim> and together with the scripts in initramfs-scripts.d the whole client is basically prepared for the user session
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| 20:42 | <Yoe> alkisg: your patch is in the latest nbd package
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| 20:42 | unfortunately it doesn't build on sparc and s390x for some reason, but that's a different matter
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| 20:42 | <alkisg> Cool!! Thank you Yoe, I'll try to make LTSP switch to using your script in a later version. Happy new year btw.
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| 20:43 | <Yoe> same to you :-)
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| 20:44 | alkisg: it had been in for a few days already, it's just that you weren't on IRC when I tried to tell you :-)
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| 20:44 | <alkisg> Haha... is it unstable?
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| 20:44 | *in
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| 20:44 | <Yoe> alkisg: no, the test suite produces a bus error
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| 20:45 | ah, yes, it's in unstable :-)
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| 20:45 | <alkisg> Sweet
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| 20:50 | Hmm if it goes into testing by Jan 12th, it'll be in Ubuntu Precise too
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| 20:51 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule => LTS DebianImportFreeze
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| 20:51 | <Yoe> alkisg: I'll try to make that happen, but I can't promise right now
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| 20:51 | I don't even know (in detail, at least) why the bus error happens yet at this point
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| 20:51 | <alkisg> If needed I think it can also be pulled manually
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| 20:52 | <Yoe> yeah, I was about to suggest that too :-)
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| 20:52 | <alkisg> But I don't think LTSP will use it for 12.04, probably in the next version, so no hurries... /me would use it in his own installations though
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