IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 11 December 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:27 | <val_> morning
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| 02:29 | why i couldn't connect to win2003 terminal server? I see only X-server when my client start up
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| 04:25 | <Big-K> hi
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| 04:27 | have big problems restarting ldm
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| 04:28 | when I logout or restart X with ctrl+alt+backspace screen remains black
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| 04:28 | any idea
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| 04:28 | ?
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| 04:58 | <daduke> Big-K: they were discussing this yesterday... do you use xterminator? it's somehow related to it. Gadi knows more.
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| 05:03 | <Big-K> no I even never heard that
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| 05:05 | do u mean xterm?
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| 05:05 | <daduke> Big-K: and it's not running? They discussed exactly this behavior. But I just read it.
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| 05:06 | <Big-K> not runnind cannot even find a package with that name
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| 05:07 | <daduke> Big-K: guess you'll have to wait for Gadi and/or vagrantc then
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| 05:09 | <Big-K> ok thx
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| 05:33 | <val_> daduke hi
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| 05:34 | <daduke> val_: hey
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| 05:34 | <val_> may be U can help me )
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| 05:35 | i couldn't connect to win2003 terminal server
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| 05:35 | my client load only window like X style
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| 05:35 | <daduke> val_: using LTSP?? For some reason, I'm not very surprised...
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| 05:37 | <val_> ye. client load ltsp
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| 05:38 | <daduke> val_: ltsp does not speak the Windows TS protocol!
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| 05:39 | val_: not unless you use the RDF client that is.
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| 05:39 | <val_> in lts.conf i try put "RDPSERVER = 192.168.0.13"
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| 05:40 | what is rdf client?
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| 05:41 | i want to see result like http://linuxgazette.net/issue93/levkovich.html
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| 05:44 | <daduke> val_: ok, then you're using the rdp client. What's the problem? I don't think I can help much, I've never used it.
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| 05:49 | <Big-K> ok found my problem
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| 05:49 | my /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/X11/xorg.conf was wrong
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| 05:49 | <daduke> Big-K: duh!
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| 05:49 | <Big-K> used vmware hardware, cause the ltsp runs on an virtual machine ...
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| 05:50 | thx for the gelp daduke ;)
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| 05:50 | -g +h
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| 05:50 | <daduke> Big-K: help, like pointing out unrelated things? welcome ;)
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| 05:51 | <Big-K> ^^
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| 05:55 | <val_> ls /etc/network
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| 06:11 | <val_> daduke some problem witj ltsp^ something resisting load rdesktop
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| 06:12 | <ogra> val_, is that ltsp5 ? you need to instal the rdesktop package in the client chroot if you want rdesktop with it ...
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| 06:12 | <val_> ltsp 4.1
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| 06:13 | <ogra> oh, well
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| 06:13 | thats old an unmaintained, no idea what you need to do there ...
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| 06:16 | <val_> when i put SCREEN_01 = shell
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| 06:16 | loading was saccesful
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| 06:20 | when i try from console start rdesktop - i see log : faild to open display
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| 06:25 | <ogra> indeed, since you started with the shell option there is no X display up
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| 06:28 | <ari_stress> evening all
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| 06:32 | <val_> ogra rdesktop installed yet
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| 06:44 | <val_> may be some wrong in ltsp 4.1?
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| 06:44 | i have new 5.0
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| 06:44 | how i can installed it?
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| 06:44 | just copy files?
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| 06:45 | daduke, ogra
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| 06:45 | <daduke> val_: which distro?
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| 06:46 | <val_> now i use debian etch
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| 06:46 | so, i download pack ltsp 5.0 for etch
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| 06:46 | <daduke> val_: how about asking google? You can also have a look at my install notes at https://nic.phys.ethz.ch/readme/233
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| 06:50 | <val_> daduke google write me for ltsp.org. where i can found some versions
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| 06:51 | <val_> but installation 4.2 by ltspadmin was broken
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| 06:51 | so i start whith 4.1
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| 06:58 | <daduke> val_: I'm sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about. Do yourself a favor and install 5.
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| 07:05 | <val_> about http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/
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| 07:06 | <daduke> val_: you aware of apt-get and/or aptitude, right?
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| 09:26 | <Blinny> Hallo! Anyone heard of success getting flash sound working on terminals connected to 64-bit Gutsy?
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| 09:42 | <johnny> a common problem, i haven't yet tried to solve
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| 09:43 | as i do not have sound on my thin clients
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| 10:03 | <val_> :(
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| 11:34 | <johnny> sbalneav, lemme know if you ever have any patches you wanted tested for ltsp
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| 11:35 | i have nice virtualbox setup now
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| 11:35 | and i learned some debian/ubuntu packaging
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| 11:35 | i applied francis` autologin patch for example..
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| 12:47 | <loather-work> mmm, autologin
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| 12:47 | that's something i need.
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| 12:47 | i had to hack the python ldm to give that functionality
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| 12:48 | <johnny> the developer of ldm2 has autologin working
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| 12:48 | but many other folks do not
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| 12:48 | and the patch isn't integrated upstream
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| 12:49 | <loather-work> ldm2, that's the one written in C?
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| 12:50 | <johnny> yes
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| 12:50 | <loather-work> excellent. i need to install ubuntu to a box and build me a new chroot.
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| 12:51 | <johnny> hopefully there will be an update for gutsy, the patch just needs to be slimmed
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| 12:51 | but my C is mostly poor
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| 12:51 | <loather-work> my C is excellent. A little rusty these days from lack of use, but I used to be fluent.
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| 12:53 | <johnny> there's a few things i still want in ldm, trying to get my C knowing friend to do it, but he is kinda busy
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| 12:53 | i wanted timed autologin
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| 13:04 | <mattwalston> Using ubuntu gutsy with ltsp standalone I have amd64/pxelinux.0 but not i386/pxelinux.0 what do I need to do?
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| 13:04 | <loather-work> timed autologin would be nice
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| 13:05 | <mattwalston> Using ubuntu gutsy with ltsp standalone I have amd64/pxelinux.0 but not i386/pxelinux.0 what do I need to do?
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| 13:07 | <loather-work> install the i386 version of pxelinux?
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| 13:07 | it's part of the syslinux package.
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| 13:10 | <mattwalston> loather-work: thanks... got me on the right path... fyi, in ubuntu ltsp-build-client --arch i386
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| 13:11 | <loather-work> ah, indeed
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| 13:12 | <mattwalston> not documented in the wiki... i guess i ought to find out hom to contribute
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| 13:44 | <mattwalston> my clients wont boot and display Mounting /rofs on /root/rofs failed: Invalid argument... this issue is known but no one has posted a resolution
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| 13:49 | <Gadi> mattwalston: sounds like the initramfs cannot find your rootfs
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| 13:49 | what distro?
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| 13:52 | ahh... I scrolled up - looks like you are on amd64 but building an i386 chroot
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| 13:52 | chances are you built that i386 chroot second
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| 13:52 | and my guess is that your dhcpd.conf file still points to an amd64 chroot
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| 13:53 | so, check /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf and make sure references are to: /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 13:53 | and not: /ltsp/amd64/pxelinux.0
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| 13:54 | then, restart dhcp
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| 13:55 | <mattwalston> ubuntu
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| 13:55 | <mattwalston> negative, in fact that is an extra problem
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| 13:55 | dhcpd.conf is hard coded as i386
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| 13:59 | could nbd be the problem?
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| 14:01 | ** (process:19101): WARNING **: Could not parse config file: Unknown error
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| 14:02 | <Gadi> mattwalston: check /etc/inetd.conf
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| 14:03 | <mattwalston> Gadi: it appears normal
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| 14:03 | <Gadi> and /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 14:03 | <mattwalston> Gadi: anything specific?
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| 14:03 | <Gadi> keep an eye on the ports
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| 14:03 | <mattwalston> Gadi: both refrence the correct port
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| 14:03 | <Gadi> default is 2000 for nbd
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| 14:03 | for a second chroot, it will increment and have a kernel param
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| 14:04 | <mattwalston> yeah
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| 14:04 | 2001
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| 14:05 | <Gadi> and, ps -ale|grep nbd
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| 14:05 | does it show nbd processes?
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| 14:05 | <mattwalston> no
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| 14:05 | <Gadi> it should once you boot the client
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| 14:05 | <mattwalston> when i attempt to start I get:
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| 14:06 | ** (process:19145): WARNING **: Could not parse config file: Unknown error
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| 14:06 | ** Message: Nothing to do! Bye!
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| 14:06 | <Gadi> it should run out of inetd
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| 14:06 | dont start by hand
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| 14:06 | <mattwalston> oh ok]
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| 14:06 | now this machine has xinetd
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| 14:06 | <Gadi> ah, that could be the problem
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| 14:07 | did you uninstall inetd?
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| 14:07 | you should use one or the other - not both
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| 14:07 | inetd is recommended
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| 14:07 | for ubuntu
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| 14:07 | <mattwalston> no, did not uninstall
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| 14:08 | <Gadi> do you need xinetd?
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| 14:08 | <mattwalston> i am removing xinetd as it was only installed to get tftpd to work
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| 14:08 | <Gadi> or just more comfortable with it?
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| 14:08 | <mattwalston> no
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| 14:08 | <Gadi> nah
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| 14:08 | tftp will run out of inetd
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| 14:08 | after you remove xinetd, restart inetd
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| 14:08 | then, reboot the client
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| 14:09 | <mattwalston> ok
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| 14:10 | it is doing more
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| 14:12 | it booted
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| 14:12 | thanks
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| 14:13 | <rance1> Id like to setup ltsp in a lab setting for testing, problem is that the lab already has a working dhcp/pxe/tfpd environment complete with scripts that launch diskwipers, memtest, etc via the network, how hard would it be to integrate ltsp into that environment as a boot option from one of the menus?
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| 14:13 | I should say that dhcp/dns/tftp is all provided by dnsmasq in the lab
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| 14:15 | <mattwalston> anyway to autologon a user for ltsp? idealy creating 2 x sessions
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| 14:34 | <Gadi> mattwalston: you on gutsy or feisty?
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| 14:35 | ideally, LDM_USERNAME and LDM_PASSWORD in lts.conf
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| 14:35 | <mattwalston> gutsy
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| 14:35 | <Gadi> but I hear there are bugs in gutsy's autologin
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| 14:35 | but, give it a try
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| 14:35 | <mattwalston> Gadi: that causes X not to load
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| 14:35 | yeah
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| 14:35 | <Gadi> ah, then there is a patched ldm somewhere
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| 14:36 | check the ldm bugs on launchpad.net
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| 14:36 | <mattwalston> Gadi: also, what can be done to tweak start-up and operational speed? all hardware is identical
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| 14:36 | Gadi: oh I see
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| 14:36 | <Gadi> you can use LDM_DIRECTX
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| 14:36 | to increase session video performance
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| 14:36 | <mattwalston> Gadi: is their a complete list of options somewhere?
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| 14:36 | <Gadi> yes
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| 14:36 | <mattwalston> where?
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| 14:36 | <Gadi> heh
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| 14:36 | I knew you'd ask
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| 14:37 | read /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
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| 14:37 | <mattwalston> i have found a few partial lists but nothing seems official and complete
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| 14:37 | oh i see
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| 14:37 | <Gadi> in the comments, it points to a file on your server
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| 14:37 | nobody ever reads the comments ;)
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| 14:37 | <mattwalston> change it there not in tftpboot?
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| 14:37 | <Gadi> no change in tftpboot
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| 14:38 | read the comments
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| 14:38 | <mattwalston> oh ok
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| 14:38 | <Gadi> that should have been: yes - change in tftpboot
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| 14:42 | <mattwalston> Gadi: i see in docs
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| 14:43 | Gadi: thanks
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| 14:43 | <Gadi> np - gotta run
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| 14:59 | <cliebow_> mattwalston, there is a file in the chroot documenting usable lts.conf params
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| 16:03 | <lns> Is there something I'm forgetting to do after installing Ubuntu w/ltsp to get pulseaudio support? I thought it was built in Gutsy
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| 18:29 | <lns> can anyone give me a url for a howto on getting PulseAudio working in Gutsy thin clients? I don't see it as an option in System -> Preferences -> Sound, and my gnome mixer applet is complaining too...
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| 18:29 | I forget how I got it going last time
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| 18:46 | <Munkie> ins: http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
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| 18:47 | I think you need the sections on esound and gnome and maybe the package pulseaudio-esound-compat which sets up a few things too
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| 18:49 | lns: sorry bad eyes made me spell your nick wrong
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| 18:49 | <lns> yikes..yeah, the perfectsetup page is nice but i know PA should be installed by default in gutsy..just not sure about ltsp chroot install (or if it needs anything special)
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| 18:49 | heh..lots of people do that
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| 18:49 | pulseaudio-esound-compat sounds familiar thou
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| 18:50 | <Munkie> its late, my eyes are red and burning and it still won't load the blasted nvidia module...I thnk I have to stop now. Nearly there though..
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| 18:50 | <lns> hmm...hopefully it's not as hard as getting ATI Radeon drivers going =p
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| 18:51 | <Munkie> I had to give up on pulseaudio as it seems to be alsa only and I of course use OSS. Ugh Radeon. Pulleeze. I had a work laptop with radeon chipset and it was a nightmare
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| 18:52 | <lns> WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?? lol
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| 18:52 | <Munkie> That was before the AMD takeover. I remember reading some topman's blurb over how wonderful and open things would be from now on. Did they get there yet I wonder? ;-)
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| 18:53 | <lns> hahaha...NO
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| 18:53 | i know it's preaching to the choir in here but ... didn't people learn how to share in kindergarten?
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| 18:54 | <Munkie> Sharing, isn't that like for people that have tihings?
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| 18:55 | <lns> tihings?
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| 18:56 | <Munkie> Yeah, posessions and stuff
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| 18:56 | <ari_stress> morning all :D
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| 18:56 | <lns> aaah
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| 18:56 | <Munkie> morning
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| 18:56 | <lns> hey ari_stress !
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| 18:57 | so what's up w/the ubuntu package 'ltsp-client' ? I don't remember using this before, but it seems to have lots of juicy dependencies
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| 18:58 | http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/misc/ltsp-client
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| 18:58 | <BGomes> ari_stress: night
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| 18:58 | <Munkie> er, rather goodnight. its 2am again....
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| 18:58 | <lns> Is this some sort of metapackage that makes ltsp installs easier?
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| 18:58 | <BGomes> Munkie: here is 21:58 pm
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| 18:59 | <ari_stress> i'm on GMT+7
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| 18:59 | wazzup everyone
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| 18:59 | <lns> wazzzzaaaap
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| 19:00 | can anyone tell me what that package is for, exactly?
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| 19:00 | <ari_stress> guys, i setup a printer in client1. from client1 i can print to it ok. but from another client or from the server, i cannot print to it. do i need to set any configuration for it?
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| 19:01 | <lns> ari_stress, afaik you have to set it up in lts.conf
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| 19:01 | <ari_stress> the error message is "host is busy. will retry in 30 seconds"
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| 19:01 | lns, i have setup the printer in lts.conf for client1. should i setup again in lts.conf for another client that wants to print to it?
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| 19:02 | <lns> ari_stress, no
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| 19:02 | ari_stress, how did you specify the client in lts.conf - mac, ip, hostname?
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| 19:02 | also, i ran into a problem with printing a couple weeks ago regarding apparmor (a new package regarding printing security in gutsy)
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| 19:03 | <ari_stress> lns: using mac, is it correct?
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| 19:03 | <lns> ari_stress, mac should be fine
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| 19:03 | <ari_stress> i'm using feisty, how do i check for apparmor?
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| 19:04 | <lns> ari_stress, check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/155530
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| 19:05 | <ari_stress> ok
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| 19:06 | * lns waves to everyone in #ltsp | |
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