IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)


Channel log from 1 August 2013   (all times are UTC)

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02:39
<joshu>
vmlintu I got PAM and freerdp using shm_askpass as you explained to me a few days ago 90% working. Only thing is that pam_exec executes the script /usr/share/lightdm/freerdp-auth which just does /usr/bin/shm_askpass --write
02:42
then the /usr/share/xsessions/ubuntu.desktop Exec=/usr/share/lightdm/freerdp-session. This freerdp-session script gets the PASS=$(shm_askpass), but unfortunately not the $PAM_USER.
02:44
I've looked at this script from your ltsp project, but I'm not sure how I can start the ubuntu.desktop session from the freerdp-auth script or if there is some other way of passing the user to the freerdp-session script.
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05:18
<vmlintu>
joshu: it doesn't have $USER set?
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08:38
<joshu>
vmlintu good morning
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09:36
<FrozenZia>
Morning all -- trying to use my LTSP server as a tftp-server in general and wonder if anyone knows how I can verify whether or not it supports >32M file sizes?
09:57
alternatively, if I've set up ltsp-pnp, then which directory is considered the "root"? /var/lib/tftpboot/?
09:57
<joshu>
vmlintu do the scripts need to be owned by lightdm ?
09:58
<vmlintu>
joshu: it needs to be able to run them
10:05
<joshu>
vmlintu I think I've got it. Can you please take a look at what I've done. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6873458f66cc139da6ed
10:25
<Hyperbyte>
FrozenZia, how to verify if it supports large files: put a large file in the tftp directory and download it.
10:26
FrozenZia, tftp root directory: /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
10:26
(that's not the directory, but the config file where the directory is configured)
10:31
<FrozenZia>
Hyperbyte: yeah, I found mention of that somewhere, but I seem to have no such file. Seems I have tftp-hpa installed, but no tftpd. Remember I have ltsp-pnp, so not sure how much that differs from the "norm".
10:43
my client boots up and tells me that TFTP prefix is /tftp/i386
10:44
my 01-MAC-ADDR files I'm using are located in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg
10:44
...and e.g. my DBAN image is located in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/
10:48
I'm trying to boot Parted Magic, which has good PXE instructions, and tells me to place the proper "pmagic" directory into the "PXE directory root"
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10:55
<FrozenZia>
Client gets an IP address and gets the right file and starts looking for pmagic/bzImage
10:57
...just doesn't find it, seemingly no matter where in the directory structure I place it.
10:58
<Hyperbyte>
FrozenZia, dnsmasq is providing your tftp if you're using ltsp-pnp.
10:59
<FrozenZia>
file permissions are 755 for that image, ownership root:root for the image, and the same for the directories they're in.
10:59
<Hyperbyte>
If you need help with pmagic and dnsmasq, I suggest you try pmagic support channels.
10:59
<FrozenZia>
Hyperbyte: ok, thanks, will do that...
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<FrozenZia>
got it working, btw. No idea what was wrong. Didn't seem to be a file size limit issue, and the pmagic folder needed to be just where I thought.
11:45* FrozenZia shrugs shoulders
11:45
<FrozenZia>
But tx again for just being here!
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12:23
<bennabiy>
||cw Still here?
12:25
Is there anyone here who has experience mounting an encrypted drive on a thin client?
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12:26
<bennabiy>
I can get it to mount on the local client, but not to the server from the client
12:26
and when hooked up directly to the server it works fine.
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12:30
<bennabiy>
Is everyone asleep?
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12:40* bennabiy pokes everyone.
12:40
<bennabiy>
Anyone awake?
12:41
<workingcats>
i'm trying to read the XML spec.. and starting to think that this is not a good idea
12:43
<bennabiy>
XML = Vast beast
12:43
Simple, but vast
12:44
<workingcats>
simple? simple?
12:44
the spec is over 40 pages on a maximised browser at 1920*1080
12:44
<bennabiy>
As far as the concept of it.
12:44
<workingcats>
and it appears to be written by lawyers
12:44
the idea is simple
12:44
and good!
12:45
but the resulting spec is a bad joke
12:45
<bennabiy>
I agree
12:47
Do you happen to have any experience with encrypted drives and LTSP?
12:47
external encrypted drives that is
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12:48
<workingcats>
nope
12:49
<bennabiy>
hrm...
12:49
What about patching ldm?
12:49
<workingcats>
pretty sure you dont need to do that ;)
12:51
<bennabiy>
pretty sure I do :)
12:51
not for the encrypted drive issue
12:52
<workingcats>
well to patch it, you know, patch it and install the patched version ;)
12:53
<bennabiy>
I have a modified greeter.c file, but do not have the source for ldm to recompile it
12:54
<workingcats>
what distro?
12:54
actually doesnt matter since i dont know the command for any (except gentoo, where you wouldnt be asking the question)
12:55
but debian at least has a command to install the sources for a package
12:55
deb-src or something?
12:55
i assume rpm distros have something equivalent
12:55
<||cw>
if debian based, make sure you have the src repos then apt-get source packagename
12:56
<bennabiy>
It is mint mate
12:56
15
12:57
but the LDM is ubuntu 13.04 based
12:57
<||cw>
so ask mint how to patch and recompile a package
12:58
<bennabiy>
Good morning ||cw
12:58
<workingcats>
mint~=ubuntu~=debian
12:58
<bennabiy>
Appreciate your help yesterday
12:58
yes
13:00
<workingcats>
and at that level i think it's a ==. (except repo URLs differ ofc)
13:01
<bennabiy>
This file is actually being generated from the Ubuntu 13.04 repos
13:01
as mint does not have its own repo for ltsp
13:01
clients
13:02
<yids>
im running debian wheezy on wyse winterm thin clients, but the sound doesnt appear to be working, in alsamixer i get volume controls, and I can play files, but I dont hear anything, any clues?
13:04
<bennabiy>
perhaps lts.conf setting?
13:05
<yids>
well, SOUND=false is commented out, and it says it should work like this
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<bennabiy>
LOCALDEV=True?
13:10
<yids>
ill try
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<yids>
bennabiy: no succes :(
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<bennabiy>
yids: Does anything show up in the clients logs about issues with sound?
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13:53
<yids>
bennabiy: excuse my ignorance but do I check the logs in /opt/ltsp/i386 of in the server?
13:54
<bennabiy>
yids: You would need to add SCREEN_2 = shell SCREEN_7=ldm
13:54
then when you rebuild your client and access your term, ALT-F2 will get you a root prompt
13:55
<yids>
yeah I can get a root prompt
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<bennabiy>
yids: access your client logs on the client
13:57
check dmesg
13:57
<yids>
okay
14:01
if i grep for sound or alsa i dont get anything, during startup i did see that it succesfully started alsa
14:01
and there is a line snd_cia82xx ...... setting latency timer to 64 dont know if this has something to do with sound
14:02
<||cw>
you don't need to rebuild the client for lts.conf changes
14:03
also, client logs are only on the clients ramdisk unless you setup rsyslog in the chroot to send them elsewhere
14:04
try setting to SOUND=true? just to be sure?
14:06
<yids>
yeah I tried that
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<jammcq>
Good morning friends
14:14
<bennabiy>
morn'n
14:24
yids: might seems funny, but you could try manually updating the alsa install in the chroot
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<bennabiy>
||cw any other thoughts on the encrypted drive issue?
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<yids>
bennabiy: tried that aswell
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16:21
<bennabiy>
Is anyone here?
16:22
<joshu>
anyone know how to exit form a full screen session?
16:22
*xsession
16:22
<workingcats>
ctrl+alt+del kills an xsession
16:23
unless it is turned off, they changed it to default-off some time ago IIRC
16:23
*xserver
16:23
actually not sure. on a normal desktop it kills X ;)
16:23
<bennabiy>
joshu: You can also kill your session in terminal
16:24
<joshu>
bennabiy yeah that one I know, but I was hoping for a less invasive way for users to exist back to login screen. I've tried ctrl+alt_del but can't get it to work workingcats
16:24
i've tried with ctrl+alt_right arrow, left arrow, space bar
16:25
<workingcats>
they should be able to kill all their tasks
16:25
"killall -s 15 -p NumericUserId" or something like that (DO check the man page, i'm not sure on the -p)
16:25
the 15 nicely asks all processes to get lost
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16:42
<bennabiy>
If you just do a "ps auxx | grep ssh-agent" you can kill that process and it will drop your session and client back to a fresh screen
16:42
time for lunch :)
16:42
<joshu>
enjoy
16:43
i need a way for user's to do this without any terminal-fu
16:44
<workingcats>
joshu, write a 1 or 2 line script that does it for the user
16:44
then include that script in the GUI menu
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<bennabiy>
workingcats: That is what I was thinking
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workingcats: what is your OS?
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<workingcats>
bennabiy, at home gentoo and cyanogen's android (well, once i can be arsed to re-root my phone)
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at work mostly debian and win2k/2k3
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