IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 15 March 2013 (all times are UTC)
| 01:04 | <jammcq> sbalneav: you back yet?
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| 01:15 | <sbalneav> jammcq: Yep!
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| 01:15 | <jammcq> hey, there he is
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| 01:15 | <sbalneav> Heading out for a walk in a few, how did you make out?
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| 01:15 | <jammcq> ok, I boot the workstation and the lightdm comes up just fine
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| 01:16 | <sbalneav> awesome!
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| 01:16 | <jammcq> but when I log in, it's not launching gnome-session, like I wanted it to
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| 01:16 | <sbalneav> did you drop down the selector there on lightdm and select LTSP?
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| 01:16 | <jammcq> umm, nope, I asked for default
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| 01:17 | <sbalneav> yeah, drop it down, and select LTSP
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| 01:17 | see if that helps
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| 01:17 | I didn't write anything yet to auto-pick that selection
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| 01:17 | <jammcq> trying
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| 01:17 | and you were right about lightdm being slow
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| 01:18 | <sbalneav> I find it waits about 15 seconds or so the first time, but logging back in seems faster
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| 01:18 | <jammcq> hmm, background changed, but I don't really have a session yet
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| 01:18 | just a background
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| 01:19 | <sbalneav> did you modify the /usr/share/ltsp-pam/xsession script? I think by default it's launching twm
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| 01:19 | <jammcq> yeah
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| 01:19 | by default it's trying to run mate-session
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| 01:19 | so I changed it to gnome-session
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| 01:20 | <sbalneav> ah, ok, cool
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| 01:20 | <jammcq> not sure if that's really what I need to run tho
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| 01:20 | <sbalneav> Which version of gnome do you have? gnome-3?
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| 01:21 | <jammcq> whatever installs on wheazy
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| 01:21 | and there is a /usr/bin/gnome-session
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| 01:21 | <sbalneav> might want to try installing something bog-simple, like icewm, or the like. Maybe compositing is mucking you up
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| 01:21 | yeah, gnome3 I think
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| 01:21 | <jammcq> i'll try icewm
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| 01:21 | <sbalneav> try quickly installing icewm, see if that works.
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| 01:22 | That's why I'm lovin' mate. Gnome2 + bug fixes :)
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| 01:22 | no compositing, and a sane desktop
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| 01:23 | just remember to change that xsession script.
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| 01:23 | <jammcq> yep, changed
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| 01:23 | booting
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| 01:23 | <sbalneav> and select "ltsp" on the drop down.
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| 01:23 | awesome that you got that far.
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| 01:24 | not too many changes needed eh?
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| 01:24 | <jammcq> bah, keyboard not working :(
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| 01:24 | I can't even log in
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| 01:24 | dunno what happened here
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| 01:25 | <sbalneav> Tomorrow, I'm going to shoot a youtube video, showing off the ltsp work, and MATE on a thin client. stefano-k from MATE is pumped about ltsp now :)
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| 01:25 | <jammcq> oh yeah, make a viral video :)
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| 01:26 | <sbalneav> Getcher keyboard going?
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| 01:27 | <sbalneav> There went a Ghostly Behind.
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| 01:27 | a phantomas :)
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| 01:27 | <sbalneav> Ba-dum bum!
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| 01:27 | <jammcq> yeah, I had to plug the keyboard into a different usb port. dunno what happened there
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| 01:27 | BUt........
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| 01:27 | I have a icewm destop :)
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| 01:27 | <sbalneav> Woot
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| 01:28 | Nice to know I got something working :)
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| 01:28 | <jammcq> heh
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| 03:29 | <Enslaver> sbalneav: how does libpam_sshauth determine pamoddir?
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| 04:57 | <zdgffdgz> ldm no login?
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| 04:57 | help needed
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| 04:58 | <vagrantc> zdgffdgz: are you able to log into the server via ssh with the same user/password?
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| 04:59 | <zdgffdgz> yes
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| 05:00 | <vagrantc> zdgffdgz: are you using NFS or NBD?
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| 05:00 | <zdgffdgz> nfs
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| 05:00 | <vagrantc> zdgffdgz: could you paste the output of "ltsp-info" to a pastebot?
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| 05:01 | !pastebin | echo zdgffdgz
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| 05:01 | <ltsp> zdgffdgz pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 05:01 | <zdgffdgz> bash: ltsp-info: command not found
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| 05:02 | <vagrantc> zdgffdgz: dpkg -l ltsp-server
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| 05:04 | <zdgffdgz> ltsp-server is installed, it has no ltsp-info (debian squeeze)
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| 05:04 | <vagrantc> zdgffdgz: the ltsp-server from debian squeeze that I uploaded did include ltsp-info
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| 05:05 | <zdgffdgz> strange; var/log/ldm.log says
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| 05:05 | expect saw: The authenticity 0f host ..server ip.. can't be established
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| 05:06 | RSA key fingerprint is 12:c6...9b:ff.
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| 05:06 | Are you sure you want to contnue connecting (yes/no)?
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| 05:06 | <vagrantc> zdgffdgz: so you're either not running ltsp-server from squeeze...
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| 05:06 | zdgffdgz: normally ltsp-update-sshkeys would fix that, unless you're running NBD ...
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| 05:07 | <zdgffdgz> I do have backport installed, I"ll try reinstall squeeze ltsp-server from main debian
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| 05:08 | <vagrantc> zdgffdgz: just tell me the version...
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| 05:08 | <zdgffdgz> 5.2.4-2 is installed
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| 05:08 | <vagrantc> zdgffdgz: in any case, any of those versions should have ltsp-info, and it would be really useful to troubleshoot what's wrong.
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| 05:10 | <zdgffdgz> bash: /usr/bin/ltsp-info: No such file or directory
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| 05:10 | according to synaptic, it should be there
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| 05:11 | ???
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| 05:13 | sorry I was in still in chroot ltsp :-))
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| 05:14 | http://pastebin.com/QNrpdkZS
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| 05:16 | <vagrantc> ok, so pretty stock install...
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| 05:17 | <zdgffdgz> from /var/log/ldm.log see http://pastebin.com/Hi0X7YUu
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| 05:18 | <vagrantc> zdgffdgz: do you see user logins in /var/log/auth.log on the server?
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| 05:20 | zdgffdgz: and is the user logged in from anywhere else at the same time? you can really only have a single graphical login at a time...
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| 05:20 | * vagrantc has to go | |
| 05:20 | <vagrantc> hopefully someone else can help out the rest...
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| 05:20 | <zdgffdgz> logged in on server
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| 05:23 | I can login at client in console and the ssh to server
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| 05:24 | and then ssh . . .
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| 05:25 | so I think the bug? is ldm
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| 05:30 | <vagrantc> ssh user@server from the console?
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| 05:30 | without getting a prompt for key validation?
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| 05:31 | <zdgffdgz> I need key validation, then OK
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| 05:33 | <vagrantc> sounds like ltsp-update-sshkeys isn't working correctly
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| 05:33 | but i really need to get goinng, good luck!
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| 05:33 | <zdgffdgz> Thanks 4 your time!
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| 05:36 | I ran ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server, didn't make any difference
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| 05:46 | <zdgffdgz> ltsp-update-sshkeys twice did the job, can now login as useror root
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| 05:47 | no idea what happened but now everything work! Strange..
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| 05:47 | Anyhow, I am again proud user of LTSP!!!
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| 05:52 | <zdgffdgz> vagrantc I made a menu button to tail /var/log/auth.log. Good idea, thanks!
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| 05:52 | [exec] (authlog) {sudo xterm -T "authlog" -e tail -n 250 -f /var/log/auth.log} </usr/share/pixmaps/roxterm.xpm>
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| 05:53 | in fluxbox
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| 09:15 | <warren> Did Enslaver get all his changes into ltsp upstream?
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| 09:15 | <Enslaver> most of them
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| 09:16 | <warren> dude, you shouldn't be awake now
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| 09:16 | <Enslaver> Crap you're right :(
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| 09:16 | well since i am
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| 09:17 | This is the no sleep hackathon right?
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| 09:18 | <alkisg> Ouch, it looks like our code will become full of zombie processes then
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| 09:18 | <Enslaver> not if we fill the scripts full of sleep's
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| 09:19 | warren: BTW how do we get these rpms into EPEL?
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| 09:19 | <bakytn> lol
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| 10:05 | <vnc786> on fat clients (ubuntu 12.04 64 bit) when printing documents some time it stops printing, after successful printing some documents for some time...so i have to closed the libresuite and again i have to give print than it works back ...
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| 10:06 | network printer is added in cups and at server it show that is has successfully completed print job and in logs too
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| 10:08 | my collegue told about spooling should happen at server side i want to know about this
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| 10:08 | can any one help/guide me on this ....?
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| 10:18 | <Hyperbyte> vnc786, this seems unrelated to LTSP. Better try a CUPS specific channel, or #ubuntu
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| 10:25 | <vnc786> okay I will but just to share if let say file.doc is not able to print from fat clients and then if that file is taken at server (ubuntu12.04) it is able to print...so just confuse whether it is libreoffice issue or cups
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| 10:43 | <bakytn> vnc786, could it be network issues?
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| 10:45 | <vnc786> bakytn, don't think so ..because 7 out of 10 doc gets print normally ..
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| 10:45 | <bakytn> 7 out of 10? wow
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| 10:46 | 30% fail is too big
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| 10:46 | what kind of doc?
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| 10:46 | full of images?
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| 10:46 | too big document, old printer?
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| 10:47 | <vnc786> hp laserjet p1505n
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| 10:49 | <bakytn> try different types of docs
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| 10:49 | is it LO problem? try to print .txt files
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| 10:49 | from gedit, kate or whatever
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| 10:49 | localize the problem
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| 10:50 | <vnc786> type of files 1.plain word file(some times) 2. .doc file with some small images(most of time) 3. excel files etc..
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| 10:51 | .txt files gets print easily
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| 10:51 | <bakytn> anyway it doesn't seem like LTSP related
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| 11:16 | <alkisg> vnc786: to sum up: server prints anything fine. Fat clients print txt files fine, but they hang 30% of the times while printing libreoffice documents?
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| 11:29 | <vnc786> yes.... hang means it doesn't print respective file...for that moment
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| 11:36 | <vnc786> alkisg: want to narrate a todays scene: user got a file name accfile.xls 1. it was not printing 2. i closed the accfile.xls and 3. then i gave print command again & it worked...
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| 11:37 | <alkisg> vnc786: what's the output of `lpstat -s` on a fat client?
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| 11:37 | Or lpstat -t
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| 11:40 | <vnc786> http://pastebin.com/34mU89z3
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| 11:43 | <alkisg> vnc786: is 192.168.0.10 the ip of your printer, or of your ltsp server?
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| 11:43 | <vnc786> printer
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| 11:47 | <pi_monk> Hi highvoltage
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| 11:47 | A followup to yesterdays talk on ltsp and wol
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| 11:48 | <alkisg> vnc786: What did you do to share your printer? E.g. did you do anything in the chroot? Put anything in lts.conf? Did anything to your server configuration? Also, the output of `cupsctl` on your fat client...
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| 11:48 | * alkisg has heard again of such printing problems from some teachers here, but was unable to reproduce them | |
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| 11:50 | <pi_monk> Had to move /sbin/shutdown to /run/, copy umount, shutdown, reboot and ifconfig there too and do /run/ifconfig eth0 down;/run/umount -a;/run/shutdown
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| 11:51 | nbd got unmounted, nic went down nicely, and after system power down wol works on ltsp clients just fine
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| 11:53 | <alkisg> pi_monk: so if you just run `ethtool -s eth0 wol g` while the client is running, and then shut it down normally, it doesn't wake up on lan anymore?
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| 11:58 | <vnc786> after setting my ltsp server what i did for printer 1. (on server)download driver for hp laserjet p1505n--> hplipopensource.com and 2. i did nothing in lts.conf it just got printer on fat clients...http://pastebin.com/bwDrLa7K
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| 12:13 | <pi_monk> alkisg: ltsp client wol didn't work for classrooms I roll out because its on netextreme nics with tg3 driver and that one requires that the nic be brought down properly and powered off before the system is powered off - else wol wont work
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| 12:14 | and ltsp clients are powered off without going through the init shutdown levels, its just hardcoded somewhere in ldm to call /sbin/shutdown -h now and that is it.
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| 12:14 | anyway ltsp client cannot properly bring down the nic because root filesystem is on the network
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| 12:15 | after unmounting /dev/nbd0 there is no way to call /sbin/ifconfig
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| 12:16 | and /sbin/shutdown - unless you first copy those somewhere
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| 12:25 | <alkisg> pi_monk: in 10.04, ltsp clients did call shutdown -fp, but not they no longer do that
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| 12:26 | They properly run all shutdown initscripts up until the one that disconnects nbd-client
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| 12:27 | And they're using the linux kernel reisub feature for reboot/shutdown
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| 12:28 | So I'm wondering if your issue is because the WOL feature wasn't activated in your NIC, or if it's because of what you said. And if it is, what script "powers off" the NIC? ifconfig is deprecated afaik...
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| 12:30 | vnc786: so from what I see, you enabled printer sharing on the server, and left the clients with CUPS_SERVER=$LDM_SERVER, i.e. the ltsp server
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| 12:30 | So you're actually using the server as a print spooler
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| 12:35 | <pi_monk> alkisg:
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| 12:36 | I'm using 12.04 and the clients dont seem to use any either /etc/init.d/halt nor any other scripts so after looking long and hard for a script which actually powers down the system and finding none I just went ahead and substituted /sbin/shutdown
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| 12:38 | <alkisg> pi_monk: /usr/share/ltsp/nbd-disconnect powers down the system
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| 12:38 | It's called from /etc/init.d/nbd-client
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| 12:38 | <pi_monk> WOL was activated, it worked with edubuntu livecds, edubuntu locally installed, win xp, unless the system got its power cut
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| 12:38 | <alkisg> And it tries to wait as long as it can for other services
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| 12:38 | <pi_monk> Ah. Thanks
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| 12:38 | <alkisg> What I'm asking is:
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| 12:38 | <pi_monk> will have another look.
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| 12:38 | <alkisg> if you run the ethtool command I wrote above,
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| 12:39 | and then unplug the power,
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| 12:39 | does wol work?
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| 12:39 | Or if you run the ethtool command and poweroff from ltsp normally...
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| 12:39 | without your changes
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| 12:39 | <pi_monk> ethtool shows wol enabled, wol works if a system shuts down/deconfigures nic before power down
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| 12:39 | <alkisg> What "deconfigures" the nic?
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| 12:40 | <pi_monk> ifconfig eth0 down
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| 12:40 | <alkisg> What calls that?
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| 12:40 | <pi_monk> beats me
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| 12:40 | <alkisg> What state does ethtool report?
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| 12:40 | <pi_monk> probably /etc/init.d/networking
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| 12:40 | g
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| 12:40 | <alkisg> grep -r ifconfig /etc/init.d ==> nothing there
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| 12:41 | I think the best idea about shutdown would be to fallback to the initramfs
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| 12:41 | I.e. reload it from /boot/initrd* and chroot to it before shutting down
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| 12:41 | <pi_monk> tried to but had no success
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| 12:42 | how does one fall back into the initramfs anyway?
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| 12:43 | <alkisg> But anyway at the point where nbd-disconnect issues the kernel trigger for shutdown, we could easily call an ifconfig eth down there
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| 12:43 | I just can't understand why that would work
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| 12:44 | ...and I also can't see what does that on normal shutdown, on non-ltsp systems...
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| 12:47 | <pi_monk> I'm looking through upstart and not getting it, but it must be there somewhere
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| 12:47 | I just disabled /etc/init.d/networking on local install, rebooted and wol gone
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| 12:47 | reenabled, rebooted x2, wol back again
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| 12:49 | its about that driver mostly - tg3
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| 12:49 | <alkisg> if [ -e /etc/iscsi/iscsi.initramfs ]; then
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| 12:49 | log_warning_msg "not deconfiguring network interfaces: iSCSI root is mounted."
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| 12:49 | Wow, iscsi.initramfs...
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| 12:49 | <pi_monk> nic wont start on wol if tg3 is not properly downed before power off
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| 12:49 | * alkisg thinks iscsi might avoid all those nbd problems :) | |
| 12:50 | <alkisg> I've heard about your problem numerous times, I don't think it's tg3 specific
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| 12:50 | <pi_monk> perhaps
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| 12:50 | a lot of broadcom chips are from the same die
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| 12:50 | so must share some problems
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| 12:52 | <alkisg> Basically networking calls ifdown -a
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| 12:53 | (02:47:31 μμ) pi_monk: I just disabled /etc/init.d/networking on local install, rebooted and wol gone ==> can you retry that, but run ifdown -a before reboot?
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| 12:53 | I.e. to verify that the ifdown -a call makes the difference...
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| 12:54 | <pi_monk> ifdown -a on ltsp client does not work - says "eth0 is not configured or configured manually" or some such
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| 12:54 | <alkisg> "on local install"
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| 12:55 | <pi_monk> Ah. Just a sec
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| 12:56 | <alkisg> On an ltsp client, maybe `ifdown eth0; echo o > /proc/sysrq-trigger` would help...
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| 13:04 | <pi_monk> alkisg: ifdown -a says "interface eth0 not configured", ifconfig eth0 down - before shutdown with /etc/init.d/networking disabled makes wol work
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| 13:06 | another thing, ltsp really does not seem to use kernel's reisub because removing /sbin/shutdown and shutting down client from gui makes the client return to ldm login screen
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| 13:07 | and if I understand correctly, reisub does not need no executables in /sbin/, no halt no shutdown no poweroff
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| 13:07 | what exactly is this reisub?
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| 13:09 | <alkisg> "shutting down client from gui makes the client return to ldm login screen" ==> thin clients sessions are on the server
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| 13:10 | So you can't shut the client down from the session without tricks
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| 13:10 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
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| 13:10 | Good finding about the ifconfig eth0 down... can you file a bug report about that in upstream ltsp?
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| 13:10 | !ltsp-bug
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| 13:10 | <ltsp> ltsp-bug: To file a bug report for upstream LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
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| 13:12 | <pi_monk> sure, will bug but could it be just the way edubuntu's fat clients are setup that messes it so?
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| 13:12 | crap, forgot to say that it's a fat client
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| 13:12 | :)
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| 13:12 | <alkisg> It doesn't matter
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| 13:12 | The boot file system does matter, nbd vs nfs vs iscsi etc
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| 13:13 | And the distro matters a bit, but all the workarounds are upstream in ltsp anyway
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| 13:15 | * alkisg tests in an hp1500... | |
| 13:16 | <alkisg> ethtool: wake-on: g
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| 13:16 | poweron => fine
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| 13:16 | <jammcq> good morning
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| 13:16 | <alkisg> Hmm so no I can't reproduce it
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| 13:16 | Good morning jammcq
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| 13:17 | pi_monk: Let me try without the ethool -s wol g command...
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| 13:20 | <pi_monk> alkisg: dont bother with ethtool, mine always shows wol: g
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| 13:20 | g'morning
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| 13:20 | <alkisg> pi_monk: I've seen several cases with the ethtool command is required
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| 13:21 | <pi_monk> not in my case, but it's in my shutdown script anyway, for good measure
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| 13:21 | also acpitool -W 7 (#7 is my nic's id)
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| 13:21 | <alkisg> Calling `ethtool -s eth0 wol d` here did disable wol
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| 13:22 | <pi_monk> what's the nic in your hp?
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| 13:22 | <alkisg> Let me check..
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| 13:29 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 13:32 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 13:32 | <Dandanio> hello
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| 13:33 | <jammcq> hello Dandanio
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| 13:33 | <Dandanio> new here, issues, simple probably, but, anyone willing to help?
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| 13:33 | <alkisg> !ask
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| 13:33 | <ltsp> ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 13:33 | <Dandanio> s/but,/but/
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| 13:33 | <jammcq> just tell us the problem
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| 13:33 | <Dandanio> lol
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| 13:34 | allrighty.
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| 13:36 | <Dandanio> Installed Ubuntu 12.04 from alternate, asked it to install LTSP for me. Server is on vmware farm. Client is Diskless Workstation 1720 (Clientron e820, Atom N270, 1GB, diskless), does not boot. 7th console shows: Negotiation: ..size = 3925604163MBError: Exported device is too big for me. Get 64-bit machine :-(
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| 13:36 | (client built is i386)
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| 13:37 | <vagrantc> i've seen that error before ... that NBD error is misleading ...
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| 13:37 | <alkisg> grep -rv '^#' /etc/nbd-server ==> to pastebin.com
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| 13:37 | Hey vagrantc :)
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| 13:37 | <Dandanio> ooh?
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| 13:37 | * vagrantc waves to alkisg | |
| 13:38 | <Dandanio> alkisg: http://pastebin.com/3C9J3RCf
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| 13:39 | vagrantc: That's what I was thinking...
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| 13:39 | wait, let me do a screenshot of the client.
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| 13:41 | <alkisg> ls -lh /opt/ltsp/images; grep ltsp /etc/ltsp/*dhcp*; grep -w -m 1 append /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/*/pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 13:45 | <Dandanio> here is a literal screenshot: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12828399/Photo%20Mar%2015%2C%209%2042%2058%20AM.jpg
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| 13:46 | alkisg: http://pastebin.com/ZWd4bSfz
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| 13:46 | <jammcq> is that a 39GB image?
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| 13:46 | <Dandanio> it is what alternate creates
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| 13:46 | I haven't added a single package to it
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| 13:46 | 12.04 LTS 64-bit alternate to be exact
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| 13:47 | <alkisg> (03:36:42 μμ) Dandanio: (client built is i386) ==> it appears you have both builds
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| 13:47 | <vagrantc> as i said, the error is misleading ... it's either a configuration problem or a bug in NBD
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| 13:47 | <alkisg> And you're using the amd64 one
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| 13:47 | <Dandanio> Am I? O_o
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| 13:47 | hold on
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| 13:47 | <alkisg> See your pastebin
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| 13:47 | <Dandanio> allright, I knew the default was 64-bit, but it did not work (Atom N270), so I built a 32-bit and repointed my dhcp
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| 13:48 | s/amd64/i386/ is literally that I did
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| 13:48 | <jammcq> I thought an Atom would handle 64-bit
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| 13:48 | <alkisg> Line 6 in your pastebin: filename "/ltsp/amd64/pxelinux.0";
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| 13:49 | <Dandanio> jammcq: hm, http://ark.intel.com/products/36331/Intel-Atom-Processor-N270-512K-Cache-1_60-GHz-533-MHz-FSB
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| 13:49 | not really
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| 13:49 | alkisg: hm... weird
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| 13:49 | <Dandanio> hold on
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| 13:49 | how do I fix it? edit that file?
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| 13:50 | <alkisg> Yes, and restart dhcpd
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| 13:50 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 13:50 | <Dandanio> ah
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| 13:50 | I am using dhcp on a separate host
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| 13:50 | it is not that host
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| 13:50 | <vagrantc> yeah, the atom n270 is definitely not 64-bit
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| 13:51 | <jammcq> ok, i've got a Atom D525 that is 64-bit
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| 13:51 | <alkisg> Dandanio: try adding break=mount in pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 13:51 | <jammcq> different cpu I guess
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| 13:51 | <alkisg> And then `cat /proc/cmdline` on the client when it boots
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| 13:51 | So that you see the kernel command line, if it uses amd64 or not etc
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| 13:52 | <Dandanio> ok, sec
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| 13:54 | booting
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| 13:55 | <Dandanio> splash...
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| 13:55 | <alkisg> pi_monk: # lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 Ethernet
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| 13:55 | 00:12.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] [1106:3065] (rev 78)
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| 13:55 | Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine II] Embeded Ethernet Controller on VT8235 [1106:0102]
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| 13:55 | Kernel driver in use: via-rhine, Kernel modules: via-rhine
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| 13:56 | WOL works fine on this one without hacks
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| 13:58 | <pi_monk> alkisg: good for you. I'm quite confident that the need to bring the nic down for wol is not something common among nics. r8169 certainly does not need it and can wake up my rack even after brutal cordal disconnect.
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| 13:59 | a poweredge with another broadcom nic does not wol-start after ac loss so lets blame broadcom :)
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| 13:59 | <alkisg> pi_monk: I've heard reports about wol not working in a lot of schools, so I'm guessing it's not limited to broadcom
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| 13:59 | But it's nice to have a workaround for tg3 in mind
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| 13:59 | It might work in other chipsets too
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| 14:32 | <Enslaver> Think there will be time today to go over whats left of the red hat part?
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| 14:38 | <pi_monk> Anybody know what will be the DE after gnome-fallback is gone?
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| 14:38 | the default I mean?
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| 14:39 | <sbalneav> So, as a lark, I installed slim into the chroot.
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| 14:39 | changed the default display manager from lightdm to slim
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| 14:40 | <jammcq> yeah.... ?
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| 14:40 | <sbalneav> all I had to do was drop another 50-slim-pam script into the startup to rewrite the pam config
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| 14:40 | and a minor amount of tweaking in /etc/slim.conf, since you have to manually specify what sessions you want to run.
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| 14:40 | but it works awesome
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| 14:41 | <jammcq> hmmm
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| 14:41 | any notes so I can try it?
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| 14:41 | <sbalneav> sure, I'll throw some stuff into the wiki a bit later.
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| 14:42 | <sbalneav> As well, I fiddled with the remote X session script a bit.
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| 14:42 | So, if I leave the "-nolisten tcp" option in the slim config, all the X happens over ssh tunneling.
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| 14:43 | if I enable tcp in the slim.conf, the remote X session script detects that the server's listening on port 6000, and sets DISPLAY accordingly, like LDM_DIRECTX=True.
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| 14:43 | so that's awesome.
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| 14:44 | So, people running Gnome can use lightdm, people running K can have KDM as their login manager, etc.
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| 14:44 | very nice.
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| 14:45 | <jammcq> and people that just want a fast simple DM can run slim :)
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| 14:45 | <sbalneav> Heck, you can run xdm if you like the retro look :)
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| 14:46 | <jammcq> i'd be fine with that
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| 14:47 | <sbalneav> meh. One problem. Slim doesn't support password aging; looks like they're not fully implementing the pam callback mechanism.
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| 14:48 | <jammcq> ah, that's a problem
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| 14:50 | <sbalneav> So long as you're not doing password aging, it's fine.
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| 14:51 | for you and I it's no good :)
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| 14:51 | <muppis> I think my job for today is done. Got ssh and root enabled clients and runned at server: for i in `seq 30 250`; do ssh root@192.168.0.$i poweroff; done
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| 14:51 | That includes my client as well.
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| 19:23 | <Dandanio> !sound
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| 19:23 | <ltsp> sound: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
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| 19:36 | <Enslaver> Now heres the million dollar question, do i spend my time writing documentation for the rhel release or do i use that time to make gui configuration menus?
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| 19:37 | <jammcq> docs
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| 19:37 | <Enslaver> Also I pushed up rev 2467 and its ready for review
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| 19:37 | * ogra_ is with jammcq | |
| 19:38 | <jammcq> the best contribution I ever made to LTSP was the docs
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| 19:39 | <Enslaver> I personally never got around to reading the ltsp-4.2 docs, i just kinda installed that ltsp-utils rpm and away i went
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| 19:39 | I will put together some preliminary documents for the release, hopefully that will get people started
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| 19:40 | jammcq: hows your centos install?
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| 19:40 | <Dandanio> can someone push me in the direction of getting sound on 1720 to work? that wiki link is broken
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| 19:40 | and it does not "just work"
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| 19:41 | <Enslaver> Dandanic: What do you have for SOUND_DAEMON?
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| 19:41 | <jammcq> Enslaver: I don't have one yet
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| 19:42 | I need to load up Centos on a machine and haven't found the time yet
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| 19:42 | <Enslaver> Well, grab Scientific Linux, it's much much better IMO
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| 19:47 | <Dandanio> Enslaver: I can't really decide what to put there
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| 19:48 | i just read that SOUND=Y should automagically work...
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| 19:48 | (my first day with LTSP, can't you see? :P)
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| 19:49 | <Enslaver> SOUND_DAEMON=pulse is what i would suggest
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| 19:50 | <Dandanio> ok, pulse I will use
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| 19:51 | any additional config?
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| 20:32 | <gbaman> Hey, I have a rather interesting problem, when trying to boot a client off a 12.04 edubuntu server, i get this error "Exported device is too big for me. Get 64-bit machine" The machine in question is a 64 bit machine (bit running the 32 bit client)
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| 20:32 | any ideas?
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| 20:39 | ?
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| 20:41 | <alkisg> Usually a configuration problem in nbd, or a bug in nbd
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| 20:42 | check pxelinux.cfg/default, /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf, and /etc/nbd-server/*
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| 20:44 | cyberorg: did you find AoE more stable than NBD in general or wrt network disconnections/reconnections in particular?
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| 20:45 | <Dandanio> gbaman: had this problem this morning 32-bit client/64-bit server (ubuntu 12.04 alternate). switched to 32-bit/32-bit and all is well
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| 20:45 | couldn't figure out what was wrong
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| 20:46 | <gbaman> i think i have fixed it, but my 64 bit client still is booting 32 bit os..
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| 20:47 | i am quite new to this, is there a way to have it detect which to use?
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| 20:47 | <alkisg> You have 2 chroots?
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| 20:48 | <gbaman> and now it is just sitting there with the background after i logged in...
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| 20:48 | <Dandanio> since it is also my 1st day with ltsp so I was stumped this morning
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| 20:49 | <gbaman> i am not having much luck with this
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| 20:49 | <Dandanio> i reinstalled 32-bit alternate and I am quite happy
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| 20:50 | <gbaman> i needed to use an external DHCP server
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| 20:50 | so couldnt follow the normal steps :(
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| 20:51 | nope, it is just getting stuck now
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| 20:52 | either that or it is just really slow
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| 20:53 | heres a question, is there a log file I can go look at to see why this client is hanging?
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| 20:54 | i have been unable to find a good log file for ltsp so far other than syslog for tftp stuff
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| 20:56 | <gvy> alkisg, re your question four days ago: caught cold and was essentially offline last week, sorry for having missed just about everything
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| 20:57 | <alkisg> gvy: np, hope you're better now, but you'll have to quote the question too, I don't remember it :)
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| 20:59 | Ah, was it about the hackathon? /me was away for most of it as well..
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| 21:00 | * gbaman wonders if anyone knows an answer to his logs question? | |
| 21:00 | <gvy> alkisg, yup
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| 21:01 | <alkisg> gbaman: desktop errors in linux are usually logged in ~/.xsession-errors
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| 21:02 | <gbaman> where is /.xsession-errors ?
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| 21:03 | * gbaman = quite new to linux | |
| 21:04 | <ogra_> in your home dir
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| 21:45 | <gbaman> ok, now i have it all set up, i created a new account on the server and try to log into it now, i now get no response from server, restarting, any ideas?
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| 21:47 | if i log in with the admin account created before, it works fine but anything else does not
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| 21:47 | <vagrantc> can you ssh to the server with the same username and password? what desktop environment is installed on the server?
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| 21:50 | <gbaman> i just tried using ssh to the server using the account, works fine
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| 21:53 | <gbaman> and there we go
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| 21:53 | tried using unity 2d
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| 21:53 | and it worked fine...
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| 21:53 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: you could probably use "ltsp-chroot" instead of: "chroot /opt/ltsp/arch; mount -t proc proc /proc; export LTSP_HANDLE_DAEMONS=false" :)
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| 21:53 | <gbaman> weird
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| 21:54 | <vagrantc> gbaman: that's pretty normal these days, unfortunately...
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| 21:55 | gbaman: a few key desktop environments, namely gnome3 and unity, don't tend to work as thin clients
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| 21:55 | <gbaman> well, i can live with that
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| 21:55 | <vagrantc> trying something like LXDE or XFCE seem to work reasonably well
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| 21:55 | or if unity-2d works...
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| 21:55 | or gnome-fallback
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| 21:56 | <gbaman> ok, cool, i am happy, it works :)
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| 21:56 | thanks guys
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| 22:29 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: got libpam-sshauth packages building with the module in /lib/$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH)/security/
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| 22:30 | sbalneav: though they're not fully multi-archable because of the files in /usr/bin/
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| 22:39 | sbalneav: pushing a minor fix to the manpage, and some more debian packaging...
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| 22:48 | sbalneav: and new packages uploaded.
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| 22:48 | sbalneav: hopefully your last commit was finished :)
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| 22:49 | guess i was able to do something useful during the hackfest after all...
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