IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 25 June 2009 (all times are UTC)
| 00:00 | <stevenjd13> Thanks and cya I'll tell you how I go
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| 04:53 | <r00t1> hi all
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| 04:54 | <alkisg> hi
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| 04:54 | OK, I've found a way to install gpxe to windows PCs that doesn't involve command line usage:
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| 04:54 | (1) http://goodbye-microsoft.com/
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| 04:54 | (2) Download and run the debian installer, debian.exe
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| 04:54 | (3) Select "advanced" mode, and in the URL where the linux kernel is to be downloaded, enter a path that contains the files "linux" (=the gpxe.krn) and "initrd.gz" (=an empty file). I've put such files in http://users.sch.gr/alkisg, so you can enter this URL for test purposes.
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| 04:54 | (4) That's all, in the next reboot it'll be there on the windows boot manager :)
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| 04:54 | <r00t1> looking for info about gizmo or ekiga work with ltsp fedora 10 ?
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| 04:56 | this is doenst work
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| 04:59 | !help
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| 04:59 | <ltspbot> r00t1: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
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| 04:59 | <r00t1> !help ekiga
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| 04:59 | <ltspbot> r00t1: Error: There is no command "ekiga".
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| 04:59 | <r00t1> !help gizmo
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| 04:59 | <ltspbot> r00t1: Error: There is no command "gizmo".
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| 04:59 | <r00t1> !help gizmo5
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| 04:59 | <ltspbot> r00t1: Error: There is no command "gizmo5".
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| 05:00 | * r00t1 trying search logs | |
| 05:10 | <r00t1> i have error to install ekiga inside ltsplocalapps. this error with depences
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| 05:12 | try use this help http://www.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WorkInProgress#Ekiga_SIP_Phone_Run_via_Localapp
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| 05:17 | anybody can help me ?
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| 05:17 | <ogra> the instructions should work fine on ubuntu, no idea about fedora
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| 05:19 | <r00t1> ogra difference only in apt-get -y install ekiga
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| 05:19 | i use rpm -i
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| 05:20 | <ogra> well, rpm cant resolve dependencies
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| 05:20 | <r00t1> i found same conversation in the logs, http://www.nubae.com/logs/ltsp20080708_pg11.html
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| 05:20 | <ogra> you likely need an equivalent to apt instead of using one of dpkg
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| 05:20 | <r00t1> this is same problem. but i try tips from log, it doesnt work for me
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| 05:21 | ogra if i use yum install ekiga, chroot nothing to show
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| 05:21 | <ogra> you need to chroot first asnd run yum *inside* the chroot
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| 05:22 | sorry, but i have no clue about fedora
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| 05:22 | <r00t1> yes i try to use yum in chroot
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| 05:23 | and silence after yum
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| 05:23 | <ogra> if you are lucky, warren might come by, he drops in here every few weeks, he does the fedora port
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| 05:23 | <r00t1> no errors, no logs
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| 05:23 | warren this is nickname ?
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| 05:24 | <ogra> yes
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| 05:24 | but he doesnt come often anymore
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| 05:27 | you will easier find ubuntu, debian, gentoo or kiwi-ltsp help here ... or with luck other fedora users might come by
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| 05:30 | <r00t1> trying to find answer :)
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| 05:30 | its work
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| 05:30 | there is no nsserver setted up in chroot
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| 05:32 | now i try to use yum
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| 05:33 | 32MB for download. this is libs will upload to client machine on boot ?
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| 05:33 | or this is server based files
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| 06:08 | <alkisg> ogra, could you shed some light here please? Isn't there any way for a script that ran with "sudo" to change the user's gconf settings?
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| 06:08 | (1) sudo sh
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| 06:08 | (2) su -c 'gconftool-2 --type string --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename /usr/share/backgrounds/simple-ubuntu.jpg' $SUDO_USER
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| 06:08 | ==> gconftool doesn't change the setting but also it doesn't display any error messages... :(
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| 06:08 | <ogra> sure, because it changed the value properly
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| 06:09 | just not for the user you expect ;)
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| 06:09 | <alkisg> Ah, it changed the root value? Why so?
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| 06:09 | (I _did_ put $SUDO_USER there)
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| 06:10 | <ogra> did you just try: sudo -u $SUDO_USER gconftool-2 --type string --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename /usr/share/backgrounds/simple-ubuntu.jpg
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| 06:10 | <alkisg> Yup, I also tried sudo and gksu to no avail... ;(
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| 06:11 | (while inside the script that ran with sudo)
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| 06:11 | <ogra> and i think your su call is in the wrong order
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| 06:11 | <alkisg> No, I think it's the opposite of sudo
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| 06:11 | I.e. su -c command LOGIN
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| 06:12 | but sudo -u LOGIN command
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| 06:12 | I think it can't contact the gconf daemon because of the `sudo` that happened
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| 06:13 | <ogra> is for the user you try to change stuff a session running ?
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| 06:13 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 06:13 | <ogra> well, i think gconfd talks through dbus nowadays
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| 06:14 | you would have to talk to the users session bus
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| 06:14 | <alkisg> If I put "xterm" instead of "gconftool" there, it displays just fine and runs as the user. *But* if I run gconftool from inside this xterm, it doesn't work.
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| 06:14 | How can I talk to the user dbus?
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| 06:14 | <ogra> which is quite tricky to achieve
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| 06:14 | <alkisg> (or maintain the "connection" while calling a script with sudo?)
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| 06:14 | <ogra> becuase it only allowa access from within the running session
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| 06:15 | run env as the user and try to get the value of DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS
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| 06:15 | then try to export that before the gconftool run
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| 06:15 | not sure that works though
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| 06:16 | <alkisg> You're a genius :)
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| 06:16 | I think I owe you about a dozens of beers so far...
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| 06:17 | Thank you thank you thank you :)
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| 06:22 | <r00t1> i have installed ekiga as localapps
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| 06:22 | Ekiga got an invalid value for the configuration key "/apps/ekiga/general/gconf_test_age".
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| 06:22 | and crash
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| 06:22 | bad :)
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| 06:24 | <alkisg> r00t1: AFAIK you shouldn't be running apps that depend on gconf as localapps
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| 06:24 | I think that skype runs fine as a localapp, though
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| 06:27 | <r00t1> i don't wanna use skype
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| 06:27 | i look for opensource app
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| 06:28 | <alkisg> r00t1: ok, I think you need to find and opensource app that doesn't depend on gconfd. At least until the dbus handling is taken care of in ltsp.
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| 06:29 | <r00t1> and that app must be in fedora repositories
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| 06:39 | will work app for KDE on gnome ?
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| 07:24 | <tarzeau> someone in here gave me a hint for lts.conf how to add lines like this in the ltsp client xorg.conf:
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| 07:24 | Option "AccelMethod" "XAA"
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| 07:24 | Option "SendCoreEvents" "false"
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| 07:25 | is that person still here? can you give me the hint again? because i forgot where i put the lines you gave me...
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| 07:29 | <alkisg> tarzeau: see the logs, it was Gadi
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| 07:29 | <rjune_wrk> ogra, ogra__: please tell me you're around
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| 07:29 | <alkisg> (06:22:42 μμ) Gadi: X_DEVICE_OPTION_01 = "\"AccelMethod\" \"XAA\""
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| 07:32 | <tarzeau> alkisg: ah thanks. my log only go back 1,5 days. but good idea i didn't check
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| 07:32 | <alkisg> tarzeau: there's a link to the web logs on the channel topic
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| 07:32 | <tarzeau> alkisg: oops :) thank you
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| 08:47 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 08:48 | <rjune_wrk> !s
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| 08:48 | <ltspbot> rjune_wrk: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 08:51 | <sbalneav> Morning rjune_wrk
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| 08:51 | From sunny Brazil
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| 08:51 | <rjune_wrk> Ooooo
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| 08:52 | nice
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| 08:52 | <Lumiere> hi sbalneav, rjune_wrk
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| 08:54 | <sbalneav> Hey Lumiere
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| 08:54 | <erieslabnx> you know how when you boot in you get the little mouse pointer icon.... I get that, but on one machine the screen remains black with that pointer forever. The mouse will move the icon but it seems to not load into the server, any guesses what this could be? It only does it on one client.
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| 08:56 | hey sbalneav, any progress on Sayabon for Jaunty?
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| 08:58 | <Gadi> erieslabnx: check the user's ~/.xsession-errors
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| 08:58 | it should tell you
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| 08:59 | * Gadi guesses compiz | |
| 08:59 | <erieslabnx> if compiz runs on the server and the client is obviously a much lower powered machine could that cause similar issues?
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| 08:59 | Would compiz automatically try to run on all clients if it runs on the sexy server?
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| 09:00 | <Gadi> it may
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| 09:00 | the compiz wrapper script has checks that don't make sense in an LTSP environment
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| 09:01 | on the server, try: sudo mv /var/log/Xorg.0.log /var/log/Xorg.0.log.bak
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| 09:01 | and log in again
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| 09:01 | one of its silly checks is to check the server xorg log file for compiz coapability
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| 09:02 | *capability
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| 09:03 | <erieslabnx> ok really funny question... I am logged into the server through my laptop, can I do this sort of stuff remotely or should I go back to my office?
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| 09:04 | <Gadi> remotely is fine
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| 09:04 | <erieslabnx> missing destination file operand after `/var/log/Xorg.0.log.bak'
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| 09:05 | <Gadi> ?
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| 09:05 | <erieslabnx> LOL What I need to do is hire an IT guy lol
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| 09:05 | oops I only typed half your command
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| 09:06 | <sbalneav> erieslabnx: There's sabayon packages in my PPA
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| 09:06 | gime 'em a try
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| 09:06 | <erieslabnx> when you say log back in you mean from the client or reboot the server?
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| 09:06 | I will do sbalneav I am very eager to utilize it
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| 09:06 | <Gadi> client
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| 09:06 | dont reboot the server
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| 09:07 | as the change you just made is only temporary
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| 09:07 | <erieslabnx> k
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| 09:07 | <Gadi> to see if compiz is the problem
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| 09:08 | <erieslabnx> logging in, or trying
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| 09:09 | <erieslabnx> ya same issue... the frustrating thing is all other clients log in in about 4 seconds, this one doesn't go all the way in ever
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| 09:10 | <Gadi> have you checked the user's ~/.xsession-errors?
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| 09:10 | <erieslabnx> don't know where to find it
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| 09:10 | I am very new :P
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| 09:10 | <Gadi> what is the username of the person logging in?
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| 09:11 | <erieslabnx> I have no business even attempting this, username is just bill
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| 09:11 | <Gadi> sudo tail -100 ~bill/.xsession-errors
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| 09:12 | copy/paste that to pastebot
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| 09:12 | !pastebot
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| 09:12 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 09:12 | <erieslabnx> not happening lol
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| 09:12 | tail: cannot open `/home/bill2/.xsession-errors' for reading: No such file or directory
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| 09:13 | <Gadi> interesting - his username is bill, but his homedir is bill2?
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| 09:13 | <rjune_wrk> Ooo Ooo OOO
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| 09:13 | <erieslabnx> I think this may be a user I tried to 'recreate' after sabayon jacked my user accounts
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| 09:13 | * rjune_wrk raises his hand, I KNOW I KNOW | |
| 09:13 | <erieslabnx> I will try to login as another user, it may be account related
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| 09:13 | * Gadi nods | |
| 09:13 | * Gadi waves to rjune_wrk | |
| 09:14 | <erieslabnx> I honestly didn't realize this until I seen the 2
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| 09:14 | but the user jumps onto another client and logs in as just bill
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| 09:14 | seems odd
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| 09:14 | <Gadi> erieslabnx: its always the little things, aint it?
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| 09:14 | <rjune_wrk> You need to change the home directory to /home/bill and make sure /home/bill exists and is owned by bill
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| 09:14 | <erieslabnx> :) Gadi
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| 09:14 | <Lumiere> lol
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| 09:15 | if /home/bill is actually his homedir
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| 09:15 | chown -R bill:bill /home/bill
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| 09:15 | <erieslabnx> it is a sad situation when the basic things confuse me
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| 09:15 | <Lumiere> then edit /etc/passwd to make his homedir correct
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| 09:16 | erieslabnx: this is not really basic :)
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| 09:16 | <Gadi> erieslabnx: not sad - every problem boils down to something basic
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| 09:16 | <erieslabnx> ok!
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| 09:16 | good
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| 09:16 | I logged in as a different user
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| 09:16 | works
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| 09:16 | so it is account related'
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| 09:16 | <Gadi> excellent
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| 09:16 | <erieslabnx> ?
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| 09:16 | <Gadi> yup
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| 09:16 | kill bill!
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| 09:16 | <Lumiere> erieslabnx: it was some piece of account creation blowing up :)
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| 09:16 | <erieslabnx> How do I completely kill him?
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| 09:16 | 100%?
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| 09:16 | <Lumiere> Gadi: lol no... Kill Bill 2!
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| 09:17 | <Gadi> (as if you guys havent been dying to use the movie reference)
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| 09:17 | <Lumiere> erieslabnx: if you're trying to totally remove him, remove his homedirs and clear him from passwd, shadow, and group is about it
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| 09:17 | (I don't think I missed anything, and yes Gadi urge to abuse movie reference was rising)
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| 09:17 | <erieslabnx> Linux... never just a single click
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| 09:18 | never a click at all
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| 09:18 | alway terminal
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| 09:18 | <Lumiere> I am sure you can do it without terminal
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| 09:18 | <Gadi> erieslabnx: you can do it in Users and Groups
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| 09:18 | <Lumiere> most of us are terminal junkies
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| 09:18 | <Gadi> just delete the user
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| 09:18 | <Lumiere> it's what we know and can use easily
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| 09:18 | (for example... this IRC session is in a terminal)
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| 09:18 | <erieslabnx> I think my Users and Groups thing is still jacked from Sabayon ;)
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| 09:18 | When i create a user it creates a group right?
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| 09:19 | <Lumiere> yes
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| 09:19 | <erieslabnx> I have to remove both the user and the group?
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| 09:19 | <Lumiere> you don't have to remove the group... but it is cleaner
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| 09:19 | <erieslabnx> ok
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| 09:19 | <Gadi> I think deluser will take care of all that
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| 09:19 | <Lumiere> Gadi: I think so... it just doesn't take care of home dir usually
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| 09:19 | <erieslabnx> Gadi that is where Sabayon messed me up, it did not do that exactly
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| 09:20 | <Gadi> deluser --remove-home
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| 09:20 | :)
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| 09:20 | <Lumiere> Gadi: lol
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| 09:20 | <erieslabnx> it may on clean nix, but after Sabayon is when I had to start manually removing the groups I think
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| 09:20 | thank you all :)
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| 09:20 | you helped a load today
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| 09:23 | I will one day get good at this!! :)
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| 09:47 | <erieslabnx> SQUASHFS error unable to read fragment cache block, nbd-client: Input/output error.... thousands of errors during login via tsp client. Screen has been flodding for 3-4 minutes... Would this be memory errors?
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| 09:56 | <erieslabnx> nvm it was memory problem
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| 10:30 | <ErwinJ> Hello everyone, I am trying to use LTSP on an Ubuntu 9.04 machine. I have installed it on top of my already running desktop system (using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall, i.e. I ran "sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone openssh-server" and "sudo ltsp-build-client --arch i386"). My desktop machine is 64-bit with 64 bit Jaunty and the thin client is 32-bit. It boot succesfully from the network and shows a pretty logi
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| 10:31 | Oh, I forgot to say: The login window is functional (i.e. everything is the right way up)
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| 10:39 | <erieslabnx> is there any way to login to my server with the xdmcp options from my laptop windowed inside my laptops primary ubuntu OS?
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| 10:40 | VNC sucks
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| 10:49 | <treyh222> Gadi, good morning, let me know when you come around
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| 10:53 | <ErwinJ> Anyone?
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| 10:53 | <erieslabnx> lingering
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| 10:53 | <erieslabnx> but I am of no help for much
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| 10:54 | <ErwinJ> Well, I asked this question just before you entered the room:
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| 10:54 | (05:30:27 PM) ErwinJ: Hello everyone, I am trying to use LTSP on an Ubuntu 9.04 machine. I have installed it on top of my already running desktop system (using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall, i.e. I ran "sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone openssh-server" and "sudo ltsp-build-client --arch i386"). My desktop machine is 64-bit with 64 bit Jaunty and the thin client is 32-bit. It boot succesfully from the network a
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| 10:54 | (05:31:35 PM) ErwinJ: Oh, I forgot to say: The login window is functional (i.e. everything is the right way up)
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| 10:54 | Any idea?
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| 10:55 | :)
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| 10:55 | <treyh222> ErwinJ, so what is the problem?
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| 10:56 | <ErwinJ> Hi :) Well, reading stuff which is mirrored is kind of hard
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| 10:56 | As I said in the question: "However, after logging in, all the text and pictures are upside down. It looks as if they are mirrored in the horizontal plane."
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| 10:57 | <treyh222> ErwinJ, fun lol i remember us talking about this, just a second.
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| 10:57 | <ErwinJ> Also the window decorations are garbled.
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| 10:58 | <treyh222> not sure if thats an X or video driver problem
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| 10:58 | did you try using the vesa driver?
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| 11:00 | ErwinJ, try this, worth a shot: xrandr -o normal
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| 11:00 | <alkisg> ErwinJ: is that intel graphics?
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| 11:00 | <treyh222> alkisg, on the client, try xrandr -o normal
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| 11:00 | <alkisg> me?
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| 11:01 | :)
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| 11:01 | <ErwinJ> Yes, the client uses intel graphics
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| 11:01 | <treyh222> alkisg, sorry lol
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| 11:01 | ErwinJ, try this on the client: xrandr -o normal
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| 11:02 | <ErwinJ> Ok, I'll boot it again. Does that require a sudo or not? Since I'm kind of typing blind here :)
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| 11:02 | <treyh222> go with sudo
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| 11:03 | <ErwinJ> It works awesome btw (except for the graphics thing)
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| 11:03 | <treyh222> awesome
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| 11:04 | <ErwinJ> Was really painless, just configure dhcp3, plug in the cable and boot
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| 11:04 | <treyh222> so the window decorations are still grabled?
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| 11:04 | <ErwinJ> was still booting :)
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| 11:04 | I'll check now
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| 11:05 | The screen flickered for a moment and nothing changed
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| 11:05 | <treyh222> so still upside down?
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| 11:05 | <ErwinJ> Yes
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| 11:05 | <treyh222> ok now on the client, try that command
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| 11:05 | xrandr -o normal
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| 11:05 | <ErwinJ> Just to be clear, it is not the entire screen that is upside down
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| 11:05 | <treyh222> sudo xrandr -o normal
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| 11:06 | what?
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| 11:06 | <ErwinJ> I typed it on the client
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| 11:06 | Just the text and pictures are upside down
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| 11:06 | So for instance the top panel is at the top
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| 11:06 | But "Applications" is shown upside down
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| 11:06 | <treyh222> ok when you tried that on the client the screen just flickered?
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| 11:06 | <ErwinJ> Yes
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| 11:07 | I have a screenshot if that helps?
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| 11:07 | <treyh222> no
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| 11:07 | let try some other commands
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| 11:07 | <ErwinJ> Ok
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| 11:07 | <treyh222> sudo xrandr -o left
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| 11:07 | what happens
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| 11:08 | <ErwinJ> screen goes black and the gets oriented 90 degrees counterclockwise
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| 11:08 | Text still upside down
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| 11:08 | Window decorations still garbled
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| 11:08 | <ErwinJ> (It works without sudo btw)
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| 11:08 | <treyh222> xrandr -o inverted
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| 11:09 | <ErwinJ> black, upside down screen, text now just "right to left" instead of "left to right"
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| 11:09 | <treyh222> what hapens then
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| 11:09 | <ErwinJ> And my terminal actually shows output!
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| 11:09 | Which is a marginal improvement :)
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| 11:10 | <treyh222> try xrandr -o with each of these command (normal, inverted, left, right, 0, 1, 2, 3
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| 11:10 | see if one of those fixes it
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| 11:11 | <ErwinJ> Nope, tried all of them. The entire screen rotates in 90 degree steps.
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| 11:12 | The text/images are still upside down though
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| 11:12 | Are you sure you don't want a screenshot to better visualize what the problem is?
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| 11:12 | <erieslabnx> i had that
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| 11:12 | upside down reversed and inverted all at once?
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| 11:13 | <ErwinJ> Kind of, but only the text/images (so icons for instance)
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| 11:13 | Placement of the panels is fine
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| 11:13 | <erieslabnx> yep
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| 11:13 | yep
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| 11:13 | sucks
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| 11:13 | <ErwinJ> Do you know how to fix it?
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| 11:14 | <erieslabnx> yes and no
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| 11:14 | <treyh222> sounds like an xorg issue
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| 11:14 | <erieslabnx> I know what I was told, but I never did it
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| 11:14 | yes trey
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| 11:14 | <ErwinJ> Thanks for your help btw treyh222
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| 11:14 | <treyh222> ErwinJ, there are also some other things you can try
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| 11:14 | <erieslabnx> I was told it was easy you merely have to set thexres option to a limited number of autoconfig options
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| 11:15 | <ErwinJ> Ah... And how do I do that?
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| 11:15 | <erieslabnx> hold on I will find the file the told me to edit
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| 11:15 | <treyh222> ErwinJ, might also try xfix
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| 11:15 | <erieslabnx> lts.conf file
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| 11:15 | <ErwinJ> Just type xfix in the terminal window?
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| 11:16 | <erieslabnx> i just switched to a different client and all was good
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| 11:16 | <ErwinJ> Not really an option here. This is an attempt at recycling an old laptop.
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| 11:17 | I figured I'd use it as a second screen to my overpowered desktop
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| 11:17 | <erieslabnx> Erwinj have you logged into that user on another machine previously?
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| 11:17 | <ErwinJ> Not sure what you mean erieslabnx
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| 11:17 | <erieslabnx> they say that couln't cause it, but the only username it did that to me on was the user I logged into as from the server, which obviously has much different resolution settings
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| 11:17 | <ErwinJ> It logs in just fine, the screen just looks garbled :)
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| 11:18 | Well, yes and no
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| 11:19 | <treyh222> ErwinJ, are you logging in as the same user as you do on the server?
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| 11:19 | <ErwinJ> I logged in as my server user first, then figured there were too many things I autostart and don't want on the thin client. Then I made a new user, which I now use to log in
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| 11:19 | <erieslabnx> alkisg is the guy who knew really well how to fix this for me
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| 11:19 | he can walk you through step by step
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| 11:19 | <treyh222> erieslabnx, what did he want you to change in lts.conf (screen resolution?
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| 11:19 | <ErwinJ> Could it be that I screwed up some sort of configfile by trying to log in as my server user first?
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| 11:19 | <erieslabnx> yes
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| 11:20 | not forcing one option treyh222, but having a few configurations
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| 11:20 | <treyh222> ErwinJ, delete that user and start again! or create a new user to test
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| 11:20 | <ErwinJ> That's what I did treyh222
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| 11:20 | I created a new user
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| 11:20 | <treyh222> ErwinJ, same problem though ?
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| 11:21 | <ErwinJ> My question is: could it be that I screwed up some configfile in the chroot environment by trying to log in as my main user that one time?
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| 11:21 | <treyh222> ErwinJ, don't think so, I've done that before
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| 11:21 | ErwinJ, give me a sec, i'm digging thru the logs for alkisg+upside down screen
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| 11:21 | <ErwinJ> Ok, thanks!
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| 11:23 | <pmatulis> anyone perform tests with kvm-based thin clients?
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| 11:23 | <treyh222> go it
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| 11:23 | got it
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| 11:23 | modify your lts.conf
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| 11:23 | for that specific client
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| 11:24 | add XSERVER=vesa
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| 11:24 | <ErwinJ> If anyone is interested: This is a screenshot of the problem - http://94.209.196.70/Screenshot.png
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| 11:24 | <erieslabnx> I like the idea pmatulis!
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| 11:24 | <treyh222> ErwinJ, add this to your lts.conf for that specific client: XSERVER=vesa
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| 11:24 | <pmatulis> erieslabnx: well it works fyi
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| 11:24 | <erieslabnx> yes that was what I was having too
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| 11:25 | <ErwinJ> Where do I find lts.conf?
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| 11:25 | <pmatulis> erieslabnx: just seems like a non-friendly way to manage them
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| 11:25 | <treyh222> ErwinJ, sorry gotta run bbl
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| 11:25 | <erieslabnx> that was where I got lost Erwinj
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| 11:25 | <ErwinJ> Ok, thanks treyh222
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| 11:26 | <erieslabnx> and that is a popular question with many different answers
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| 11:28 | <ErwinJ> Found it :) it is located in <chroot_location>/etc/lts.conf
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| 11:29 | And there is a text in there which says I need to edit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 11:29 | Trying that now
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| 11:30 | <erieslabnx> awesome
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| 11:30 | please let me know if it works
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| 11:30 | I have a few extra clients back in commission if so! lol
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| 11:30 | <ErwinJ> Haha :)
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| 11:30 | Nope, no luck
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| 11:31 | I'll try the /etc/lts.conf file and see if that works
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| 11:32 | How many clients do you have erieslabnx?
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| 11:32 | <erieslabnx> only 10
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| 11:32 | <ErwinJ> "only 10" haha :)
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| 11:32 | I'm trying 1 atm
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| 11:32 | <erieslabnx> :)
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| 11:32 | I am as new as you I promise
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| 11:33 | <ErwinJ> Ow, it is complaining about a syntax error at line 1
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| 11:33 | <erieslabnx> it has been almost plug and play so far
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| 11:33 | <rjune_wrk> ErwinJ: only 10 is right, there are companies with 100+ terms
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| 11:34 | <erieslabnx> My new office will have about 30
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| 11:34 | the third office we are looking at 50
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| 11:34 | <erieslabnx> so I need to learn how domains work now
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| 11:35 | <ErwinJ> Apparantly you need to type [default] in the first line (or an identifier for the mac address)
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| 11:35 | See: http://www.ltsp.org/~sbalneav/LTSPManual.html for details
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| 11:35 | Neat
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| 11:35 | <erieslabnx> does your lappie have a boot from network option?
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| 11:36 | <ErwinJ> Hooray, it works!
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| 11:36 | Yes
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| 11:36 | <erieslabnx> :)
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| 11:36 | <ErwinJ> But only the wired network thing
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| 11:36 | <erieslabnx> very cool!
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| 11:36 | <rjune_wrk> ErwinJ: you're all good now?
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| 11:36 | oh, no.
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| 11:36 | <erieslabnx> mine too, it sucks I would love for my laptop to boot from wireless!!!
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| 11:36 | <rjune_wrk> erieslabnx: it can be done
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| 11:36 | <erieslabnx> PLEASE!!!
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| 11:36 | <rjune_wrk> I did it under contract for a school.
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| 11:36 | <ErwinJ> Not "all good" doesn't describe it
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| 11:37 | <erieslabnx> seriously? I have been asking for a week how, can find nothing on it
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| 11:37 | <rjune_wrk> ErwinJ: icons and text are still upside down, eh?
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| 11:37 | <ErwinJ> The text is the right way up, but the vesa driver looks ugly as hell (as it should)
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| 11:37 | <rjune_wrk> I wish I could help you
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| 11:37 | erieslabnx: you have to create a boot disk with your kernel and driver on it.
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| 11:37 | <erieslabnx> DVD?
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| 11:37 | <rjune_wrk> erieslabnx: can be dvd, can be thumb drive.
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| 11:37 | <ErwinJ> Everything is the right way up now, so essentially I should just put the right driver instead of "vesa" in there and my problem will be fixed
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| 11:37 | <rjune_wrk> but you *MUST* initiate the boot locally
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| 11:38 | <erieslabnx> I figured it was a driver issue, not 'knowing' how to use the wifi
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| 11:38 | so boot in and then use xdmcp?
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| 11:38 | <ErwinJ> Thanks very much everyone, I will try to change the driver later on and report back here. I need to go buy dinner now. Bye.
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| 11:38 | <rjune_wrk> erieslabnx: that's the gist of what you wind up doing
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| 11:38 | <erieslabnx> have a great day Erwinj
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| 11:38 | <alkisg> sbalneav: in Jaunty, is there any reason to use the included sabayon version instead of the one in your PPA? I think that the included version doesn't work at all, right? So I'm thinking of copying your sabayon to my PPA in case any of the teachers that use my PPA want to give it a try...
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| 11:39 | <rjune_wrk> what I did was load the kernel and initrd onto a CD along with wifi drivers, gave them a way to put in their wep key etc in and automatically build an iso, which they wrote to disc and booted from
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| 11:39 | <erieslabnx> no wep :P
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| 11:39 | <rjune_wrk> wifi cards don't support PXE
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| 11:39 | <erieslabnx> I live in Ohio bring it on, there are no security concerns in Ohio lol
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| 11:40 | really??
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| 11:40 | <rjune_wrk> in theory, if you could find a wifi card that supported PXE, you would be good
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| 11:40 | really.
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| 11:40 | <erieslabnx> hmmmm I wonder
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| 11:40 | <rjune_wrk> it's time for me to go to lunch, if you're around whne I get back, I'll go into how it works a bit more
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| 11:40 | <erieslabnx> thank you rjune_wrk
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| 11:41 | alkisg I almost got involved in Sabayon again, I am glad I didn't yet (I don't have a test server)
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| 11:41 | <alkisg> erieslabnx: ? why would you need a server to test sabayon?
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| 11:41 | <erieslabnx> ohh wait you mean the one in the PPA is working?
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| 11:42 | I just far more negative than I intended to
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| 11:42 | sounded
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| 11:42 | <alkisg> That's what good sbalneav is trying to tell us in the last few weeks, that he's looking for beta testers... ;)
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| 11:42 | <erieslabnx> yes he told me today.... Is a PPA like a repository?
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| 11:42 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 11:43 | <erieslabnx> any special software needed to access the files?
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| 11:43 | <alkisg> no, you just need to put it to your sources: https://launchpad.net/~sbalneav/+archive/ppa
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| 11:43 | <erieslabnx> awesome
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| 11:44 | admin/software sources correct?
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| 11:45 | <alkisg> erieslabnx: a how-to is there: https://launchpad.net/+help/soyuz/ppa-sources-list.html
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| 11:45 | <erieslabnx> ok I will go play with it now :) Thank you
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| 11:46 | <alkisg> yw
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| 11:49 | <ogra> oh, ErjinJ is gone ...
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| 11:49 | he should have tried to disable desktop effects :)
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| 11:52 | <erieslabnx> If I see him ogra I will tell him you suggested that
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| 11:53 | <ogra> erieslabnx, i'm just discussiong with our desktop guy in #ubuntu-devel :)
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| 11:53 | he has never seen somethng like that either and asked which locale Erwin uses
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| 11:54 | <erieslabnx> I figured it was just a fluke that it happened to me so many times, then he came in with the same problem
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| 11:54 | I didn't ask him sorry
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| 11:55 | <ogra> erieslabnx, so you saw the same before ?
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| 11:55 | <erieslabnx> yes just as his screenshot showed
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| 11:55 | inverted and reversed
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| 11:55 | <ogra> what locale do you use ?
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| 11:55 | <erieslabnx> EN US ?
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| 11:55 | <ogra> doesnt look reversed
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| 11:55 | just head over
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| 11:56 | the A of applications is where it belongs
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| 11:56 | <erieslabnx> alkisg this sabayon is MUCH better!
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| 11:56 | I didn't catch that ogra....
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| 11:56 | <alkisg> erieslabnx: report any bugs to sbalneav :)
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| 11:57 | <erieslabnx> if it helps ogra, it had funky display errors for me too... I would try to navigate it backwards but as my mouse would roll over each line would black out so I would have to look where I was going before moving my mouse for simple things like reboot
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| 11:57 | <alkisg> ogra, I've seen that too with el_GR locale
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| 11:57 | <ogra> intresting
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| 11:58 | alkisg, every used compiz on such clients ?
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| 11:58 | i wonder if its compiz related
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| 11:58 | <alkisg> I can borrow the laptop to test again sometime - I don't remember much about it
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| 11:58 | <erieslabnx> The oddest thing of all, it only did this to the two user accounts that I logged into from the server itself.
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| 11:58 | <alkisg> I think I temporarily worked around it with the vesa driver; I don't think I tried disabling compiz stuff
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| 11:59 | <erieslabnx> yes alkisg that was what you suggested for me.... they looked up the chat logs searching your name and inverted screen and found your solution... It worked for him. Then you came on here right after he was leaving
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| 11:59 | <alkisg> Heh :)
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| 12:00 | <erieslabnx> this was all a few minutes ago and I told them to ask you, that was when they decided to search logs
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| 12:00 | so I kinda was able to help someone finally
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| 12:00 | I told them to ask you lol
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| 12:00 | <ogra> alkisg, ssshh, silent hint: ....
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| 12:00 | <alkisg> :P
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| 12:00 | <ogra> FILE BUGS !!!!!!
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| 12:01 | ;)
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| 12:01 | <erieslabnx> I don't think it is a bug, it is more user related I think :)
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| 12:01 | <ogra> it is a bug
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| 12:01 | if your font does funny things that needs to be fixed
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| 12:02 | <alkisg> ogra, sure, but he just lent me his laptop to repartition his disk and put windows on it; It didn't seem right to me to keep it until I could provide feedback for solving the bug ;)
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| 12:02 | <ogra> if its a wrong user setting it needs to be identified what sets that setting and how to avoid it :)
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| 12:02 | <erieslabnx> it is beyond a RTL issue, it was inverted
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| 12:02 | <alkisg> (LTSP is a really good recovery method, btw!!!!!(
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| 12:02 | <ogra> yeah
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| 12:04 | <erieslabnx> alkisg do I need to rebuild the thin client image when I make changes on Sabayon? Are changes in real time or will clients need to reboot to see them?
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| 12:04 | <alkisg> erieslabnx: I think that the users need to log off, but I haven't used sabayon so I can't tell you much
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| 12:04 | <ogra> changes happen in the desktop session ...
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| 12:04 | no need to rebuild the client system for that
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| 12:05 | <erieslabnx> ok thks
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| 12:10 | what is the best xdmcp client to use for a windows based machine? Does anyone have any preference?
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| 12:11 | <erieslabnx> I have a netbook I use primarily for adobe acrobat to scan and make my pdf files, but would like to use it to access the server as admin now and then if possible
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| 12:17 | * alkisg prefers xsane to adobe acrobat :P | |
| 12:18 | <staffencasa> has anyone seen problems where ltsp will freeze to a black screen randomly? I'm not sure if this is a suspend issue or what. All I know is it goes to a black screen but the monitor light is still green and not amber like normal.
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| 12:20 | strattog, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/12196
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| 12:21 | <erieslabnx> neither of my scanners can be detected in xsane
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| 12:36 | <erieslabnx> I would like to just randomly thank everyone for being such a big help at all given hours. I have a system that runs great and I am not an admin or IT guy. I really appreciate all the efforts you all put in here.
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| 12:38 | <sbalneav> Afternoon all
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| 12:39 | <alkisg> Hey sbalneav.
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| 12:39 | <stgraber> hey sbalneav
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| 12:39 | how's the conference
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| 12:40 | <sbalneav> Good. I've got my presetation written.
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| 12:40 | <stgraber> had time to work on LTSP ?
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| 12:40 | <sbalneav> I'm here in the speaker's lounge trying to do some hacking, but Richard Stallman's in here, so it's filling up fast.
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| 12:40 | <Lns> erieslabnx: Thanks for using LTSP, it's great for us to help out and make sure things work as they should
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| 12:41 | <stgraber> sbalneav: hehe
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| 12:41 | <sbalneav> I might have to move.
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| 12:41 | I'd take a picture, but he'd charge me 10 bucks.
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| 12:41 | <Lns> Uh oh, it's 'the man' =)
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| 12:41 | <erieslabnx> sbalneav thank you for your work, this version from your ppa is incredible
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| 12:41 | works flawless so far
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| 12:41 | <sbalneav> I like his ideas
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| 12:41 | I'm not so fond of the person :)
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| 12:42 | <sbalneav> (hope he doesn't see this :)
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| 12:42 | <erieslabnx> I have 8 clients connected to the server now and have some display bugs in ubuntu, is there a way to restart my gui without resetting the entire server or disconnecting the thin clients?
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| 12:43 | like from terminal or something?
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| 12:44 | <stgraber> sbalneav: you don't happen to have a fix for ldm do you ? :)
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| 12:45 | <erieslabnx> sorry i should have been more clear. The display is acting up on the server not the clients. So I assume I am trying to restart gnome without restarting the server itself.
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| 12:45 | <coordinador> Hi, im the guy who wants to buy some 1220 Term
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| 12:45 | <Lns> erieslabnx: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
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| 12:46 | <coordinador> i want to know if this terms are compatable with windows (im just the messenger, my boss asks :P)
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| 12:46 | <erieslabnx> thank you lns :)
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| 12:46 | <Lns> hrm...where's can-o-spam when you need him ;)
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| 12:46 | <erieslabnx> just found out as you replied :)
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| 12:46 | <Lns> erieslabnx: ;)
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| 12:47 | <stgraber> sbalneav: btw, did you find Fernando from Revolution Linux ?
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| 12:47 | <erieslabnx> shortcut ctrl alt backspace wasn't working :)
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| 12:48 | <coordinador> Gadi, are you from diskessworkstations?
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| 12:48 | *diskless
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| 12:48 | <Gadi> 'fraid not
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| 12:48 | <stgraber> _UsUrPeR_: ^
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| 12:48 | <coordinador> do you know somebody that works here?
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| 12:48 | <erieslabnx> those are real people??
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| 12:48 | <ogra> coordinador, no, he's a concurrent company :)
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| 12:49 | <_UsUrPeR_> stgraber: ?
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| 12:49 | <erieslabnx> Gadi are you with a company?
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| 12:49 | <ogra> coordinador, meet _UsUrPeR_
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| 12:49 | <Gadi> _UsUrPeR_: fess up, you work for them
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| 12:49 | <coordinador> ok, thanks
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| 12:49 | <erieslabnx> lol
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| 12:49 | <stgraber> _UsUrPeR_: coordinador is looking for someone from DLW
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| 12:49 | <_UsUrPeR_> coordinator: hello. Myself and CAN-o-SPAM are employeers at disklessworkstations.com
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| 12:49 | <Gadi> erieslabnx: Symbio Technologies
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| 12:49 | <erieslabnx> who is diskless' biggest competitor?
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| 12:49 | <Gadi> at your service
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| 12:49 | :)
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| 12:49 | <erieslabnx> haha
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| 12:49 | <ogra> employeers ??
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| 12:49 | <Lns> I'm at LNS =p
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| 12:49 | <ogra> hmm
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| 12:49 | <coordinador> haha
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| 12:50 | <erieslabnx> all friends in #ltsp :)
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| 12:50 | <coordinador> ok...
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| 12:50 | humm
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| 12:50 | <_UsUrPeR_> what's up? :)
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| 12:50 | <stgraber> Lns: who'd have guess :)
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| 12:50 | <ogra> does that merge employees and employers ?
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| 12:50 | <_UsUrPeR_> ogra: that is up to you. We are what you ask us to be.
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| 12:50 | <Gadi> ah, vagrantc, reporting for work
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| 12:50 | <erieslabnx> vagrantc welcome!!!
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| 12:50 | <Gadi> :)
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| 12:50 | <_UsUrPeR_> we are nothing but dust in the wind man
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| 12:50 | <ogra> _UsUrPeR_, lol
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| 12:50 | heh
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| 12:50 | * vagrantc waves | |
| 12:50 | <coordinador> _UsUrPeR_, my boss sent me to ask if ltsp 1220 term are compatable with windows
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| 12:50 | * ogra strands | |
| 12:50 | * Lns pours pints for all | |
| 12:51 | <coordinador> i want to buy 30 of these machines, and i need to know that.
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| 12:51 | <ogra> coordinador, to throw them through ? should work fine :)
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| 12:51 | <erieslabnx> I have come so far along since we last spoke vagrantc!!! I am like almost an admin guy these days. :)
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| 12:51 | I have 10 clients running good now :)
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| 12:51 | <vagrantc> erieslabnx: glad to hear it!
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| 12:51 | <_UsUrPeR_> coordinador: when you say "compatible with windows", what were you planning on doing with the units?
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| 12:52 | <Lns> ogra: =p~~
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| 12:52 | <coordinador> using as thin clients and maybe using as normal low power computers
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| 12:52 | <Lns> ah, the spaminator!
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| 12:53 | * ogra imagines win98 would run fine on them ... | |
| 12:53 | <CAN-o-SPAM> funny story: met a teacher who teaches in hawaii yesterday ... she said spam is good and they eat lots! go to 7-11 instead of hot dogs and taquitos they have rice rolled in spam
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| 12:53 | <ogra> shudder
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| 12:53 | <Lns> CAN-o-SPAM: spam is Hawaii's token meat!
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| 12:53 | <ogra> how much did he weigth ?
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| 12:53 | <treyh222> lol
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| 12:53 | <Lns> err...meat flavored product...
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| 12:54 | <treyh222> what is spam made out of?
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| 12:54 | <Lns> treyh222: that's the mystery...nobody knows
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| 12:54 | <CAN-o-SPAM> it was a she ...
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| 12:54 | <ogra> pure fat mixed with fat ?
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| 12:54 | <erieslabnx> coordinator I just bought a pile of off-lease school computers (PIII's) for like $40 each and boot them all from network. It's like I am running dual core on all desktops now and cheap as hell
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| 12:54 | <Lns> erieslabnx: now all you have to worry about is the power those guys are sucking down
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| 12:55 | <erieslabnx> if space is a factor though I understand your search
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| 12:55 | true Lns
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| 12:55 | 230 watt power supplies, can't be that bad right?
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| 12:55 | <CAN-o-SPAM> Lns: power + carbon footprint + longevitiy
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| 12:55 | <Gadi> save the cheerleader, save the world
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| 12:56 | ogra's the cheerleader
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| 12:56 | :)
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| 12:56 | <erieslabnx> I can't afford those $575 HP thin clients
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| 12:56 | <ogra> lol, i'm not blonde
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| 12:56 | <erieslabnx> might as well buy netbooks for that price and get the free lcd
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| 12:56 | <CAN-o-SPAM> erieslabnx: which is why DisklessWorkstations.com is here to serve you! :)
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| 12:56 | <Lns> erieslabnx: if you purchase from DLW, the money goes to support LTSP :)
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| 12:56 | <Gadi> its not the hair, its the liederhosen
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| 12:56 | <ogra> and my shapes are rather round in o5ther areas
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| 12:56 | <stgraber> ogra: if that's the only issue that shouldn't be so hard to fix ;)
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| 12:56 | <erieslabnx> ohh dear god I have started it now
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| 12:56 | <stgraber> you know changing hair color isn't that hard nowadays
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| 12:56 | * Lns wanted to be the cheerleader =( | |
| 12:57 | * ogra hands Lns the pompoms | |
| 12:57 | <erieslabnx> I do like you the DLW website and product options
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| 12:57 | <Gadi> Lns: you can be Peter Petrelli
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| 12:57 | <erieslabnx> all about the nano size :)
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| 12:57 | price is my concern
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| 12:57 | not with DLW just in general
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| 12:58 | does dlw have the vesa mount stations to for lcd brackets? Like peas and carrots forest gump says.
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| 12:58 | <Lns> erieslabnx: keep in mind that netbooks aren't extremely rugged
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| 12:58 | <CAN-o-SPAM> erieslabnx: yes
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| 12:59 | <stgraber> Ryan52: ping
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| 12:59 | <CAN-o-SPAM> Lns: 4 points against netbooks for thin clients ... 1) small small screen 2) small keyboard 3) bad mouse 4) battery
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| 12:59 | * Lns waves goodbye to all as he must go save the world^H^H^H^H^Hschool from war^H^H^Hbandwidth issues | |
| 12:59 | <erieslabnx> I have to get to a meeting, talk to you all soon :)
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| 13:00 | * Lns writes down the wisdom passed forth by CAN-o-SPAM | |
| 13:00 | <Lns> ...and twitters it
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| 13:01 | <stgraber> Ryan52: hmm, ignore that, seems to be a packaging issue rather than upstream issue :) (my locales file is empty for some weird reason)
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| 13:01 | <erieslabnx> i need a blackberry irc client lol
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| 13:01 | <CAN-o-SPAM> do they make one?
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| 13:02 | <erieslabnx> i don't think
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| 13:02 | <CAN-o-SPAM> i'll have to check app world, i'd be suprised if they don't or if we don't see one soon
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| 13:08 | <treyh222> Jivetalk is a multinetwork chat client for the blackberry
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| 13:08 | <Gadi> lol -as if on queue, I just got this email from infoworld: Netbooks: the ultimate thin clients
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| 13:08 | Some people dismiss netbooks as personal playthings; others see them as potential desktop replacements. Could they be vehicles for desktop virtualization, too?
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| 13:09 | erieslabnx must be gettting the same emails
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| 13:09 | :P
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| 13:10 | <CAN-o-SPAM> theres been quite a few articles saying netbooks = thin clients over the past few weeks, i've choosen to ignore most of them
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| 13:10 | <treyh222> Gadi, you have time to work with me, on the kernel panic error after the e1000_watchdog times out?
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| 13:10 | <ogra> Gadi, the ubuntu server team uses them extensively ... great way to get a fast machine with builtin UPS
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| 13:10 | * CAN-o-SPAM looks at Lns ... if your tweet my twknowledge twive me twcredit | |
| 13:11 | <Gadi> treyh222: sure, on the usual divided-attention basis
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| 13:11 | <stgraber> ogra: hmm, it looks like "locales" isn't part of the builder chroot, does it make sense ?
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| 13:11 | <Gadi> ogra: but, I thought they were all waiting 6 more months before buying one :P
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| 13:13 | <ogra> Gadi, thats the ARM team :PÜ
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| 13:13 | :P
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| 13:13 | <Gadi> ah, the team of one
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| 13:13 | :)
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| 13:13 | <ogra> stgraber, debootstap should pull it in
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| 13:14 | <ogra> stgraber, libc6 -> belocs-locales-bin -> locales
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| 13:14 | <stgraber> cat: /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED: No such file or directory
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| 13:14 | I have that from the builder when building ldm
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| 13:14 | <ogra> (note that the command "locales" doesnt exist)
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| 13:14 | <stgraber> and that file comes with the "locales" package
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| 13:14 | <ogra> does locale-gen work ?
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| 13:15 | <stgraber> no idea, I don't need that to build ldm :)
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| 13:15 | I did a debootstrap on my laptop and couldn't reproduce what I see on the builders ...
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| 13:15 | <ogra> strange, ask lamont or infinity
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| 13:15 | <stgraber> ok
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| 13:37 | <MichalPenka> Hello guys! Is it truth that if two client runs for e.g. Firefox or OpenOffice.org there is only one instance in memory?
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| 13:37 | <stgraber> sure
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| 13:38 | <MichalPenka> :)
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| 13:38 | could you give some explanation?
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| 13:38 | I write some work and I need it :(
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| 13:39 | "please" missed in my sentence ;)
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| 13:39 | <stgraber> that's the usual shared memory, if two softwares use the same libraries it gets only loaded once
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| 13:40 | <MichalPenka> so for e.g. OpenOffice.org takes 100 MB in RAM. If two clients run it, it takes 100 MB+per-user small memory usage?
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| 13:40 | maybe it doesn't have to be small
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| 13:41 | but it's not important
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| 13:42 | <MichalPenka> or could you give some estimate in case of openoffice writer per one user and per two users?
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| 13:47 | <coordinador> bye and thank you
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| 16:28 | <coordinador> hi all
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| 16:29 | i want to help translating documents into spanish
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| 16:30 | where i have to talk?
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| 16:38 | <ogra_> coordinador, sbalneav
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| 16:39 | <coordinador> thanks
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| 16:40 | <ogra_> but he is at FISL
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| 16:40 | so not regulary around
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| 16:52 | <ErwinJ> Hello again
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| 16:52 | I spent some more time on the "text/graphics inverted" problem
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| 16:52 | I managed to figure out it has something to do with graphics acceleration
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| 16:53 | Putting
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| 16:53 | X_OPTION_01="\"NoAccel\""
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| 16:53 | in lts.conf under a heading of [default] did the trick
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| 16:54 | This obviously kills any 3d accel. For me this is no problem (don't need it anyways). So I'm happy with this solution. I guess it's some sort of driver issue?
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| 16:54 | (intel driver btw)
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| 16:55 | <alkisg> ErwinJ: ogra_ suggested that you tried with compiz off
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| 16:55 | <ErwinJ> Good point, let's try that
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| 16:55 | <ogra_> alkisg, well, seb128 did
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| 16:55 | before he noticed the fonts in the screenshot
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| 16:56 | <ErwinJ> a metacity --replace miraculously fixed it
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| 16:56 | Hooray :)
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| 16:56 | Odd though, since when I boot into a local install of 9.04 on that machine it works with compiz
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| 16:58 | Any ideas on the cause of this and where to report it?
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| 17:04 | <ogra_> just at launchpad will do
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| 17:04 | <ErwinJ> But with what project? ltsp? intel driver? compiz?
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| 17:05 | The problem doesn't exist when I normally boot into the computer, only when I use it as as thin client. To me that indicates that it is a problem with ltsp. Am I correct in that thinking?
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| 17:06 | <ogra_> ubuntu compiz ... it has to do with remote displaying
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| 17:06 | (sorry, i'm in a meeting)
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| 17:07 | <ErwinJ> No problem. I'll discuss the bug report tomorrow, have to go to bed now. Bye. Thanks for the help!
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| 17:09 | <MichalPenka> stgraber: thank you for answer for my (4 hours back) question
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| 17:09 | good night all (0:09 here)
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| 21:59 | <insera-mis> hi there
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