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Channel log from 27 April 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:38 | <alkisg> Good morning
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| 00:44 | <jonkke> good morning
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| 03:20 | <CrypTom> hi all, I'm using LTSP on Ubuntu 10.04 and my clients dont boot correctly. I see the ubuntu splash screen with the red/white dots underneath and they keep changing colors forever without ever reaching ldm
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| 03:20 | is there a logfile I can check?
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| 03:23 | <Appiah> remove quiet and splash
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| 03:23 | so you can see what happens
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| 03:24 | <CrypTom> ok
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| 03:28 | <CrypTom> Appiah: the last displayed line is: " * Setting up LTSP client..."
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| 03:29 | then, nothing more happens
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| 03:29 | <Appiah> did this ever work before?
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| 03:30 | <CrypTom> yep, yesterday it worked
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| 03:32 | <CrypTom> Appiah: I'm seeing some more lines now: " INFO: task rsyslogd:455 blockedfor more than 120 seconds"
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| 03:33 | and message telling me how to disable such warnings in the kernel. these two lines keep repeating
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| 03:36 | <Appiah> O_o
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| 03:36 | sorry never seen before
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| 03:37 | did you change your image and forgot to ltsp-update-image or something
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| 03:37 | <vmlintu> jonkke: did you get your ldap problem solved?
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| 03:37 | <CrypTom> I've just installed the daily ubuntu updates
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| 03:37 | but I can try ltsp-update-image
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| 03:38 | <Appiah> May I see your lts.conf ?
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| 03:40 | <CrypTom> sure, just a default section, LOCALDEV=True, SOUND=True, NBD_SWAP=True, SYSLOG_HOST=192.168.9.10 (thats the ltsp server ip), XKBLAYOUT=ch, XKBVARIANT=de, CONSOLE_KEYMAP=de_CH
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| 03:40 | thats it
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| 03:40 | of course no ',' but newlines
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| 03:41 | <Appiah> so you got remote syslog on , that syslog might say something
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| 03:42 | <CrypTom> ok and where would I look for its logfile?
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| 03:43 | ah, I see it logs into different logfiles on the ltsp server
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| 03:49 | <jonkke> vmlintu: looks like it
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| 03:49 | <CrypTom> Appiah: I found a log entry: Apr 27 10:48:10 ltspserver ldminfod[11735]: error: cannot execute /usr/sbin/ldminfod: No such file or directory
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| 03:50 | <vmlintu> jonkke: what was the problem?
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| 03:50 | <CrypTom> Appiah: on the ubuntu package page I found out taht ldminfod belongs to the ldm-server package
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| 03:50 | <jonkke> i think something was wrong with opinsys guide
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| 03:50 | <CrypTom> Appiah: is this package needed?
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| 03:51 | <jonkke> i combined guides from edubuntu and opinsys and got it to work...
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| 03:52 | <vmlintu> jonkke: What kind of setup you did? I could try to fix the guide if there's a problem with it
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| 03:52 | <jonkke> i'm having test setup where opinsys guide failed when i was setting "olcAccess" parameters
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| 03:53 | you read pastebin i linked here yesterday?
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| 03:53 | <vmlintu> I checked pastebin, but I'd need also the rest of the setup to know what's wrong there
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| 03:53 | <jonkke> i'm really newbie with ldap... and last time i set it up it was using .conf file and was completely different :)
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| 03:54 | just tell me what info you need
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| 03:54 | are you from Opinsys?
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| 03:54 | <vmlintu> Would you have the files and commands you used to create the database?
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| 03:54 | I wrote the blog entries.. ;)
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| 03:54 | <jonkke> :)
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| 03:56 | copy/paste from your guide, but change dn entry and password
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| 03:57 | <vmlintu> are you using lucid rc?
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| 03:59 | <jonkke> yes
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| 03:59 | i think i might hava found error on yesterday setup
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| 03:59 | moment, have to go
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| 04:03 | and back
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| 04:05 | lunch break ->
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| 04:07 | <Appiah> CrypTom: give it a try
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| 04:08 | <CrypTom> Appiah: I did, no change
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| 04:30 | <Appiah> CrypTom: sorry I'm out of ideas
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| 04:32 | <CrypTom> Appiah: ok, thanks
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| 08:18 | <mgariepy> good morning everyone
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| 08:35 | <jammcq> hey friends
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| 08:38 | * Gadi feels like he's at an AA meeting | |
| 08:38 | <Gadi> :P
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| 08:39 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 08:39 | <Gadi> I mean, hi, jammcq, mgariepy
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| 08:39 | :)
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| 08:39 | <jammcq> hey Gadi
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| 08:39 | <Gadi> jammcq: how are your 12 steps going?
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| 08:39 | :)
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| 08:40 | <jammcq> I took a step backwards. I dunno where I am anymore
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| 08:40 | <Gadi> that usually means your in Jersey
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| 08:40 | <Gadi> *you're
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| 08:40 | <jammcq> heh, reminds me of Gilda Radner doing her thing on SNL
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| 08:40 | "You belong in new jersey" :)
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| 08:41 | <Gadi> heh
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| 08:42 | <jammcq> Mr. Feder, you sound like a real attractive guy! ... You belong in New Jersey! ... [applause]
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| 08:43 | <nicolasb> hello , i m having difficulty with ldm each time it starts i loose mouse and keyboard , i can t pin point the pb
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| 08:51 | <Gadi> nicolasb: are you on debian?
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| 08:51 | <nicolasb> using ubuntu
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| 08:51 | jaunty
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| 08:52 | <Gadi> is it on a particular thin client or all thin clients?
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| 08:52 | <Ghid0rah> Greetings everyone.
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| 08:52 | <nicolasb> seems the same for all thin clients with either usb keyboard or mouse
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| 08:54 | <Ghid0rah> Does anyone have any experience with mounting Windows shares with CIFS on a thin client?
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| 08:55 | <Gadi> nicolasb: if you set up ssh in the chroot (ie so you can ssh into a running client as root), you can then check the Xorg log to see what is going on
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| 08:55 | <Ghid0rah> I'm having an issue where when I log onto the server I'm able to mount the shares but on the thin clients I am not
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| 08:55 | I get a CIFS error -13 on the thin clients
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| 08:55 | <Gadi> Ghid0rah: do you have smbfs installed in the chroot?
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| 08:55 | <nicolasb> thanks i l try
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| 08:56 | <Ghid0rah> let me check
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| 08:56 | <jammcq> 13 is generally a "permissions problem".
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| 08:56 | <jammcq> dunno if that error is specific to cifs tho
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| 09:05 | <Ghid0rah> hrmm... I have SMBFS installed on the the thin client
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| 09:06 | I'm also getting a Status code returned 0xc0000006d NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE on the client as well.
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| 09:06 | <Gadi> Ghid0rah: are you mounting this through an ldm session (where you are actually mounting on the server) or are you dropping to a shell on the client and trying to mount to the client's OS?
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| 09:07 | <Ghid0rah> I'm attempting to use PAMMOUNT
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| 09:08 | <Gadi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ActiveDirectoryIntegration
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| 09:08 | have you tried the bootom part of this?
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| 09:08 | *bottom
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| 09:08 | <Ghid0rah> It may be a rookie mistake... but should I do that on the client or the server?
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| 09:08 | <Gadi> you should do everything on the server
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| 09:09 | <Ghid0rah> Everything works on the server
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| 09:09 | <Gadi> you are not mounting anything to the client
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| 09:09 | <Ghid0rah> I'm using pammount mount the share via CIFS
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| 09:09 | <Gadi> right - but the shares mount to the server
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| 09:10 | because you are always logging into the server
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| 09:10 | the only difference on a thin client is that it happens through ssh
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| 09:10 | instead of gdm
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| 09:10 | <Gadi> try steps 4 and 5 from the link above
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| 09:12 | <dobber_> Hi guys. When trying to boot a thin client I'm getting "mount: mounting /dev/nbd0 on /rofs failed: No such device"
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| 09:12 | new install - debian lenny backports
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| 09:13 | <Gadi> dobber_: debian does not use nbd by default - it uses nfs
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| 09:13 | <dobber_> ok, but i have a nbd server started
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| 09:13 | i dont know who started it :)
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| 09:14 | <Gadi> right - but did you change something to try to make it use nbd instead of nfs?
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| 09:14 | did you run ltsp-build-client with special flags?
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| 09:14 | <dobber_> no i didnt
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| 09:14 | as a matter of fact, i dont know what nbd does at all :)
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| 09:15 | <Gadi> hehe
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| 09:15 | :)
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| 09:15 | fair enough
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| 09:15 | <dobber_> Gadi just the optios in the documentation
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| 09:15 | <Gadi> which docs did you follow?
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| 09:15 | <dobber_> http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto/Lenny-With-Backports
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| 09:15 | <Ghid0rah> Gadi, thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
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| 09:16 | <Gadi> Ghid0rah: is it working?
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| 09:16 | <dobber_> inetd is starting nbd server
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| 09:17 | <Gadi> dobber_: vagrantc is our resident debian guy, so if you catch him inhere later, he can help you best
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| 09:17 | <Ghid0rah> Yes sir. I thought I had made those changes to sshd config but I guess not.
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| 09:17 | <Gadi> Ghid0rah: awesome
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| 09:18 | dobber_: for now, try running: ltsp-update-image --arch i386
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| 09:18 | <dobber_> i did
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| 09:18 | <Gadi> ah
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| 09:18 | <dobber_> nothing changed
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| 09:19 | <Gadi> do you have anything in your /etc/exports?
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| 09:19 | maybe we can change back to nfs easily
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| 09:19 | <dobber_> just the line in the documentation
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| 09:19 | i'm gonna stop nbd and start nfs to check it
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| 09:21 | <Gadi> dobber_: do this:
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| 09:21 | edit: /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf
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| 09:21 | and add: boot=nfs
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| 09:22 | to the BOOTPROMPT_OPTS
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| 09:22 | then:
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| 09:22 | chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels
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| 09:22 | then:
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| 09:22 | ltsp-update-kernels
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| 09:22 | then reboot the client
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| 09:23 | <dobber_> BOOTPROMPT_OPTS="boot=nfs"
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| 09:24 | <Gadi> well, try: BOOTPROMPT_OPTS="quiet splash boot=nfs"
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| 09:25 | (that way, you should get less chatter on boot)
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| 09:25 | <dobber_> booting now :)
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| 09:26 | <dobber_> thanks alot
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| 09:29 | <Gadi> pleasure
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| 09:29 | fyi: don't run ltsp-update-image ever again
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| 09:29 | :)
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| 09:29 | it will screw you up now that youuse nfs
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| 09:29 | *you use
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| 09:30 | and it is not needed
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| 09:32 | <Ghid0rah> Gadi, I'm getting this phantom floppy0 mounting... none of my devices have a floppy
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| 09:32 | any ideas?
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| 09:32 | <Gadi> do the clients?
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| 09:32 | <Ghid0rah> No sir.
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| 09:32 | <Gadi> does the server?
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| 09:32 | <Ghid0rah> No sir.
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| 09:33 | <Gadi> huh
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| 09:33 | <Ghid0rah> strange thing is, I can write to the mounted device
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| 09:33 | and it has like 500mb of space...
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| 09:33 | <Gadi> it may be that the clients have a floppy controller enabled in the bios and linux makes a dev for it anyway
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| 09:34 | you can set an lts.conf to deny floppies
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| 09:34 | one sec
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| 09:34 | lemme look it up
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| 09:34 | LOCALDEV_DENY_FLOPPY=True
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| 09:35 | try adding that to your lts.conf (in the [default] section)
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| 09:44 | <Ghid0rah> No dice.
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| 09:44 | When I look at the mount type it says this
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| 09:44 | Link to folder (inode/directory)
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| 09:46 | ltspfs on /media/student1/floppy0 type fuse.ltspfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=student1)
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| 09:46 | <Gadi> Ghid0rah: what distro?
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| 09:46 | <Ghid0rah> Ubuntu 9.10
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| 09:46 | <Gadi> and the client has no floppy drive whatsoever?
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| 09:47 | <Ghid0rah> No sir.
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| 09:47 | <Gadi> that is strange
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| 09:48 | it certainly thinks it does
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| 09:48 | :)
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| 09:48 | <Gadi> try going into the bios and turning off the floppy controller
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| 09:48 | <Ghid0rah> Both client and server are on VMWare
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| 09:48 | <Gadi> see if that at least kills it
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| 09:48 | ah
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| 09:48 | does the VM have a floppy?
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| 09:48 | a virtual floppy
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| 09:49 | <Ghid0rah> Nope
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| 09:49 | I deleted it before even turning them on
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| 09:49 | <Gadi> well, go into the VM's bios and try turning off the floppy controller
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| 09:49 | (the client VM)
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| 09:49 | <Ghid0rah> k
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| 09:50 | <Gadi> maybe it's a VMWare quirk
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| 10:06 | <Ghid0rah> Gadi, I think you were right... VMWare quirk with the client.
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| 10:18 | <dobber_> how do I make my xserver to start without a monitor ?? :)
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| 10:20 | <Gadi> X_HORZSYNC=30-100
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| 10:20 | <Gadi> X_VERTREFRESH=55-75
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| 10:21 | (if X won't start with the monitor off, it is because the drivers rely on ddc probing to set the frequencies properly)
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| 10:22 | <Gadi> the above force a set of horizontal and vertical frequencies
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| 10:48 | <dobber_> so... can I make a flash drive with a client image and connect to the server from anyware ? :)
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| 11:04 | <sbalneav> dobber_: Potentially, but that's not LTSP's focus.
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| 11:09 | <jammcq> sbalneav: Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 11:09 | * alkisg has seen LTSP cd & usb images in a university web site... | |
| 11:13 | <cliebow> TROUT QUEEN!!!!
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| 11:15 | <sbalneav> Heya
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| 11:19 | <jammcq> cliebow: that's "Trout Princess"
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| 11:20 | <Gadi> man, I need a new channel....
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| 11:20 | where's the remote?
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| 11:31 | <cliebow> Oops!
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| 11:43 | <cliebow> Gadi:you missed the epic "Trout Princess" at last bts
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| 12:06 | <cliebow> x
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| 14:34 | <Ghid0rah> Can anyone assist me with getting localapps going with firefox? The panel short cut isn't updating to point to the local app
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| 14:35 | <abeehc> maybe i can help
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| 14:35 | i think the panel items aren't dynamic like the menus
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| 14:36 | depending on what version of ltsp you are running and whatnot i guess
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| 14:36 | <Ghid0rah> I'm on the default package LTSP for Ubuntu 9.10
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| 14:36 | I think it is 5.1.9?
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| 14:36 | <abeehc> that sounds right yeah
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| 14:36 | so i think... like i say the panel items aren't dynamic
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| 14:37 | i asusme your lts.conf has the neccesary localapps lines?
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| 14:37 | <Ghid0rah> I think so....
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| 14:37 | [Default] LOCAL_APPS = True LOCAL_APPS_MENU = True LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS = firefox SOUND = True LOCALDEV = True LDM_DIRECT = True
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| 14:37 | in seperate lines of course
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| 14:37 | <abeehc> looks good to me
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| 14:38 | not sure the localdev stuff relates i can't recall
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| 14:38 | <Ghid0rah> See I thought the LOCAL_APPS_MENU = TRUE and LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS = firefox
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| 14:38 | would update the menu
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| 14:38 | <abeehc> so i mean in my experience, the launchers and panel items don't update with that nice menu items line
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| 14:38 | but
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| 14:38 | panel item is different from menu items
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| 14:38 | they update for me
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| 14:38 | <Ghid0rah> hrmpf
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| 14:38 | <abeehc> have yo ucustomized either of those?
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| 14:39 | <Ghid0rah> Only removed software
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| 14:39 | <abeehc> like i think you can drag the menu item to the desktop and view the launcher properties
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| 14:39 | and the command should look a bit funny if it's doin the localapps stuff
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| 14:39 | <Ghid0rah> the command in the launch is firefox %u or something
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| 14:39 | not the xprot that I was expecting
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| 14:39 | <abeehc> yeah that's not the ticket i don't think
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| 14:39 | <Ghid0rah> xprop*
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| 14:40 | <abeehc> hmm sec i'll chekc my lts.conf and i'll get you an example of my ff command
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| 14:40 | <Ghid0rah> Thank you sir.
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| 14:41 | <abeehc> hmm my lts.conf looks identical
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| 14:41 | xprop -root -f LTSP_COMMAND 8s -set LTSP_COMMAND "firefox %u"
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| 14:41 | <alkisg> Ghid0rah: the firefox command is changed in the menu but not in the panel?
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| 14:41 | <abeehc> oh
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| 14:42 | have you installed ff in the chroot!?
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| 14:42 | <Ghid0rah> Yes sir.
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| 14:42 | I can run firefox with ltsp-localapps firefox
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| 14:42 | the menu and panel are the same
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| 14:43 | <alkisg> Ghid0rah: try ltsp-localapps xterm, and then: getltscfg -a
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| 14:43 | Do you see the LOCAL_APPS_MENU entry there?
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| 14:43 | <Ghid0rah> in lts.conf?
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| 14:43 | <alkisg> No, in the local xterm
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| 14:43 | !localxterm
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| 14:43 | <ltspbot`> alkisg: "localxterm" :: while sitting on a thin client, open a gnome terminal. In that, run: ltsp-localapps xterm. An xterm will open. That xterm runs locally, so any commands you enter there are executed directly on the client.
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| 14:44 | <Ghid0rah> where would I see LOCAL_APPS_MENU entry in xterm?
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| 14:44 | <alkisg> In the output of `getltscfg -a`
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| 14:45 | What do you get if you run getltscfg -a in the local xterm?
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| 14:45 | <Ghid0rah> I get nothing
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| 14:45 | command runs but no output
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| 14:48 | <alkisg> Then your lts.conf settings do not reach the clients
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| 14:49 | Where is your lts.conf located? In which path?
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| 14:49 | (or better yet, try: cat /etc/lts.conf on the client, and see if it's the same as on your server)
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| 14:50 | <Ghid0rah> Where should it be on the server?
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| 14:50 | <alkisg> /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/<arch>/lts.conf
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| 14:50 | ...and it should have [Default] on top of it
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| 14:50 | <Ghid0rah> So not in /opt/ltsp/i386?
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| 14:51 | <alkisg> No
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| 14:51 | <Ghid0rah> That would probably be a problem
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| 14:59 | <Ghid0rah> hrmm
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| 14:59 | I copied it to the correct location and still no lovin
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| 15:00 | but the getltscfg -a does give me results
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| 15:05 | <alkisg> Can you pastebin the results?
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| 15:05 | !pastebot
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| 15:05 | <ltspbot`> alkisg: "pastebot" :: The LTSP pastebot is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 15:08 | <Ghid0rah> will do
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| 15:10 | http://ltsp.pastebin.com/RtVNFWzJ
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| 15:12 | <alkisg> Looks ok... in a normal gnome-terminal on that user, what do you get with `echo $XDG_DATA_DIRS`?
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| 15:14 | <alkisg> (btw you don't really need LOCAL_APPS and LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS)
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| 15:14 | <Ghid0rah> alkisg, I want to thank you for your time
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| 15:14 | it appears to be working now...
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| 15:14 | <alkisg> Nice
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| 15:57 | <antoiner> Hi, I'm running LTSP 5 (stgrabber repository) and ubuntu 9.10. My trouble is that the clients does not take in consideration X_MODE or XRANDR_MODE that I've set in lts.conf ...... someone can help me on this issue ? thanks
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| 15:57 | <alkisg> antoiner: can you paste your lts.conf to pastebin?
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| 15:57 | !pastebot
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| 15:57 | <ltspbot`> alkisg: "pastebot" :: The LTSP pastebot is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 15:58 | <antoiner> sip I do it right away
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| 16:00 | <antoiner> alkisg: http://ltsp.pastebin.com/UcMv1jrb
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| 16:00 | <mutex> hi
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| 16:00 | what is the best way to get automount integrated with ltsp ?
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| 16:01 | <alkisg> antoiner: it's 1024x768
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| 16:01 | Not 786
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| 16:01 | <antoiner> oops ....... :p sorry
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| 16:01 | <alkisg> antoiner: try putting ONLY this one: XRANDR_MODE_0=1024x768
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| 16:01 | No configure_x or mode_0 or anything else
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| 16:02 | (it won't work with _01, it needs a single digit at the end)
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| 16:02 | <antoiner> ok
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| 16:02 | done
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| 16:06 | <antoiner> alkisg : thank you, it worked :)
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| 16:06 | <davemir> Hello vagrantc
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| 16:06 | <alkisg> you're welcome
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| 16:06 | <davemir> alkisg: hello!
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| 16:07 | <alkisg> Hello
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| 16:08 | <davemir> alkisg: thanks, so the other day
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| 16:08 | <komunista> please, on Debian/testing are sourced scripts in /etc/X11/Xreset.d on user logout
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| 16:08 | will be LDM supports this?
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| 16:10 | <davemir> vagrantc: hello
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| 16:13 | <vagrantc> davemir: hi
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| 16:13 | komunista: ldm doesn't support that
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| 16:14 | <davemir> vagrantc: you remember the question you did that day?
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| 16:14 | <vagrantc> davemir: nope
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| 16:15 | <komunista> vagrantc: and is plan to implement this?
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| 16:16 | <davemir> vagrantc: to create users ltsp-server
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| 16:19 | <davemir> vagrantc: ever, using it has controlaula?
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| 16:20 | <vagrantc> komunista: no plan to do so. what is it used for?
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| 16:20 | davemir: don't understand what you mean: "< davemir> vagrantc: to create users ltsp-server" ??
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| 16:21 | davemir: haven't used controlaula, but i know some folks in extremadura who do
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| 16:23 | <davemir> vagrantc: ok
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| 16:23 | vagrantc: exactly what makes lns.conf the ltsp-server?
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| 16:23 | <komunista> vagrantc: for execute (source) scripts on user logout
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| 16:24 | I need clean guest's $HOME, for example
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| 16:25 | <vagrantc> komunista: ldm has it's own hooks for that sort of thing
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| 16:25 | but might be good to use existing infrastructure
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| 16:26 | <komunista> you mean /usr/share/ldm/rc.d/... ?
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| 16:26 | <vagrantc> davemir: what makes the lts.conf file?
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| 16:26 | komunista: yeah. scripts that begin with K aren't used.
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| 16:29 | <davemir> vagrantc: yes
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| 16:30 | <vagrantc> davemir: ltsp-build-client will usually create it. but you only need an lts.conf file if the defaults aren't working.
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| 16:32 | <davemir> vagrantc: but when creating a username and password within lts.conf, that does exactly
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| 16:32 | vagrantc: ?
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| 16:33 | <vagrantc> davemir: that's just used for automated logins or guest logins
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| 16:35 | <davemir> vagrantc: that is, I do not need to create users within lts.conf
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| 16:36 | <vagrantc> davemir: no need to create users there.
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| 16:37 | davemir: simply add the users on your server.
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| 16:38 | <komunista> vagrantc: mean you, that K-scripts are not executed at all?
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| 16:38 | <vagrantc> komunista: doh. i was trying to do 3 things at once :)
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| 16:38 | komunista: yeah. scripts that begin with K are run after logout.
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| 16:38 | <komunista> vagrantc: I will wait
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| 16:38 | <vagrantc> ignore the first comment
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| 16:39 | <davemir> vagrantc: I have ubuntu as alternate. I have to go to system, user and group management
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| 16:39 | <komunista> vagrantc: no problem :-)
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| 16:45 | <davemir> vagrantc: would that I told you
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| 16:46 | <vagrantc> davemir: yes, add users as you would with any system...
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| 16:47 | <komunista> vagrantc: the LXDE was not broken by my ltsp-logout
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| 16:47 | <davemir> vagrantc: ok
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| 16:47 | vagrantc: I have it right, perfect!
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| 16:48 | vagrantc: thanks
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| 16:49 | vagrantc: another problem I have is that when I turn off the thin client server freezes the display and does not turn off either
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| 16:49 | vagrantc: would know me because?
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| 16:54 | vagrantc: I would know to answer?
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| 16:55 | <antoiner> Davemir: I'm not an expert in LTSP but this trouble seem to be more a Xorg trouble It happens sometimes with graphic cards poorly supported
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| 16:56 | Davemir: there is a solution but depends on your graphic card
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| 16:57 | <davemir> antoiner: my graphics is an ATI 4850
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| 16:59 | <komunista> davemir: it seems to be not LTSP related problem, try look into logs
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| 17:00 | <davemir> what and where logs?
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| 17:00 | <antoiner> into /var/log/ ...... you must have some Xorg log files
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| 17:01 | <komunista> or ~/.xsession-errors
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| 17:02 | <antoiner> Davemir: what is your operating system ?
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| 17:02 | <davemir> ubuntu 9.04 alternate
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| 17:03 | <antoiner> it seem to be a bug with the fglrx driver
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| 17:04 | You should try to update to 9.10 or the newcoming 10.04
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| 17:05 | <davemir> ok thanks
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| 17:06 | komunista or antoiner: ever been installed on controlaula?
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| 17:06 | <antoiner> another way is to remove the fglrx driver and use the radeon driver (witch has less performance)
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| 17:06 | davemir : tryed but never got it to work
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| 17:06 | <komunista> davemir: what is controlaula?
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| 17:08 | <davemir> komunista: for the school. The server is Professor and controls the thin clients
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| 17:09 | antoiner: but installed controlaula or not?
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| 17:09 | <antoiner> Davemir: I fear that the controlaula is dead ...... the last update is quite old
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| 17:09 | <komunista> I never used this
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| 17:09 | <antoiner> davemir: the one on the repositories of ubuntu
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| 17:09 | <komunista> I tried only italc for this
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| 17:11 | <antoiner> davemir: since the 1.3.1 version got out the LTSP project has changed to version 5 ....... so even if you can use it you will have some trouble at using it
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| 17:11 | <davemir> antoiner: there is a substitute or not?
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| 17:12 | <vagrantc> last controlaula upload to debian was in late january... so it is not dead, for sure.
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| 17:13 | <antoiner> davemir: italc for the supervision ... but for the ltsp part I didn't find anything
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| 17:13 | vagrantc: maybe a patch ?
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| 17:13 | <vagrantc> patch for what?
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| 17:14 | it's been used with LTSP5 for years
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| 17:14 | <antoiner> vagrantc: a patch for getting controlaula better with debian ...... the mainstream sources are of 2008
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| 17:15 | <vagrantc> 1.4.0 was uploaded to debian just a couple months ago
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| 17:15 | http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/controlaula.html
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| 17:16 | <vagrantc> and the debian developer is upstream for controlaula and deploys using it on 3500+ LTSP *servers* ... so i'm sure it works.
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| 17:17 | weather it does what you want or works how you like, that's another story.
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| 17:18 | <davemir> vagrantc or antoiner: I have installed the computer making ltsp server and within the normal controlaula / chroot opt/ltsp/i386 inside I apt-get install ltsp-controlaula.
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| 17:19 | vagrantc or antoiner: I do it well
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| 17:19 | vagrantc or antoiner: ?
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| 17:19 | <antoiner> well ..... it should work on the paper
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| 17:19 | for me it gave me nothing
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| 17:19 | <vagrantc> i don't know how to use it or set it up, either. :)
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| 17:20 | <komunista> from package description: This package has to be installed in the teacher pc and the students workstations. When using LTSP this package must not be installed inside the clients chroot.
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| 17:20 | <antoiner> so you need to update the chroot too
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| 17:21 | <antoiner> it's a bit confusing that last sentence ..... it says that we must install it on student workstations but not to install it inside the chroot
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| 17:21 | <davemir> komunista: where I have to install the ltsp-controlaula?
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| 17:22 | <antoiner> on the server that one is sure
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| 17:24 | <davemir> antoiner: but I already installed on the server ltsp-controlaula, but then could not find where I had to run the program instead installing the normal controlaula I came a shortcut
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| 17:25 | * komunista never used controlaula | |
| 17:26 | <antoiner> sorry but it never worked for me too ..... can't help you more
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| 17:27 | maybe using the debian package instead of ubuntu's
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| 17:28 | <davemir> antoiner, komunista, vagrantc: thanks for trying
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| 17:29 | <komunista> good night
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| 17:30 | <antoiner> good night
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| 17:30 | <davemir> komunista: good night
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