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Channel log from 15 August 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:14 | <bakytn> hey there!
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| 04:26 | Guys, is there any good resources about seperating home directories (storing them in NFS)
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| 04:40 | I am also getting Invalid Card Number. Can you tell me is it related to video? (both video and audio work fine)
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| 05:31 | <muppis> Invalid card number is related to audio, as far as I know, but you can ignore it.
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| 05:34 | If you want give more diskspace than you can provide from server to user, then theres is point to separate homes to nfs, but you can do it more easier to mount that nfs directly to server and leave ltsp's own mountings as is.
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| 05:44 | <bakytn> muppis, thank you!
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| 05:44 | playing with local apps. Very cool.
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| 05:45 | I am now having another issue with DNS servers. How can I change contents of thin client's /etc/resolv.conf
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| 05:46 | I edited /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf but it's still the same (surely I run ltsp-update-image -a i386 too)
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| 05:46 | where else it can be set?
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| 05:48 | <muppis> In lts.conf
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| 05:48 | DNS_SERVER = ...
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| 05:49 | <bakytn> can I set like this: DNS_SERVER = "IP1, IP2" etc?
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| 05:51 | <muppis> I'm not sure can you set more than one at time, but yes, kins like that.
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| 05:51 | <bakytn> will report in a minte with results
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| 05:52 | in ltsp-localapps xterm I can't sudo?
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| 05:53 | it's asking me for my password but it's not working
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| 05:53 | <bakytn> (it's good actually)
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| 05:54 | <muppis> There's no users in system or in sudoers -file, that's why it doesn't work by default.
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| 05:54 | Read: in client system.
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| 05:54 | <bakytn> ...true
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| 05:55 | but where it gets passwords from?
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| 05:55 | it's asking for a password and gets from somewhere right?
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| 05:55 | not from a servers /etc/passwd?
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| 05:56 | <muppis> It looks up local /etc/shadow and in name of security, it acts like it finds some even it doesn't exist.
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| 05:58 | <bakytn> nice
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| 05:58 | ok
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| 05:59 | muppis, seems like DNS_SERVER worked but shouldn't hvae used commas as it's placing nameserver IP, <LN> nameserver IP2 etc.
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| 05:59 | <muppis> So, if want to work with some users, like your own, just copy your line from servers shadow to clients shadow and add yourserlf also to clients sudoer file, it will start working.
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| 06:00 | <bakytn> muppis, super!
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| 06:01 | I wonder why local apps take much longer to start than server apps
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| 06:01 | <muppis> It first load binary and related files from server.
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| 06:03 | It does load imagefile only in demand, not whole bunch at once.
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| 06:15 | <bakytn> thank you sir
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| 08:20 | <bakytn> Hello! Were you able to get webcam working? It's recognized by the thin client and really works. However from the desktop it's not working. For example I tried to install "skype" as a local app hoping that it would find the webcam and work but it's not recognizing it
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| 08:23 | is it possbile to symlink from thin clients local /dev to server's /dev :D
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| 08:50 | according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPLocalAppSetup it could work...I exactly have "cheese" but it doesn't recognize my webcam, interesting
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| 09:33 | <muppis> bakytn, is your cam in client or in server ?
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| 09:35 | <bakytn> my camera is in client
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| 09:36 | if I use streamer in local xterm it takes a shot! I mean it works...but ltsp-localapps cheese can't see it for some reasons, the same with skype
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| 09:38 | <muppis> There cam be v4l vs. v4l2 issue. Try installing flash-cam, it makes v4l compatible virtual device from v4l2 device. V4L2 is used nowadays, but some software just do not follow
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| 09:39 | Packages name is flashcam
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| 09:40 | https://launchpad.net/~irving-popovetsky/+archive/ppa
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| 09:41 | <bakytn> I should install it at chroot env right?
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| 09:46 | <muppis> Yes.
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| 09:54 | <bakytn> thanks, will do later.. (having issues with it)
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| 09:55 | guys, please help....can you use RDP and normal LDP at the same time? I mean say have RDP on SCREEN_06 and LDM on normal 07. If I enable RDP on 06 (or other) LDM is not working!
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| 10:04 | * Hyperbyte is back! | |
| 10:04 | <bakytn> Hyperbyte, hey sir :)
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| 10:05 | <Hyperbyte> Back from Norway. :)
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| 10:05 | Man that was nice.
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| 10:05 | <bakytn> cool
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| 10:07 | <Hyperbyte> Try SCREEN_06=rdesktop -and- SCREEN_07=ldm
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| 10:07 | Then you should be able to switch with alt+f6 and alt+f7
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| 10:07 | <bakytn> no...not working I did it..
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| 10:08 | SCREEN_07 is showing Starting LTSP client and stuck
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| 10:09 | <Hyperbyte> Use LDM_DEBUG=True
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| 10:10 | And see /var/log/ldm.log on the client
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| 10:10 | <bakytn> ok
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| 10:19 | ok...I resolved this...I just had to set both screens explicitly...like SCREEN_06 and SCREEN_07..I thought that ommitting SCREEN_07 leads to set 07 to LDM by default. Sorry.
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| 10:20 | so I set only SCREEN_06 but didn't set SCREEN_07 and therefore had problems
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| 10:20 | <Hyperbyte> 12:07 <Hyperbyte> Try SCREEN_06=rdesktop -and- SCREEN_07=ldm
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| 10:20 | 12:07 <bakytn> no...not working I did it..
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| 10:20 | .... ?
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| 10:21 | This is exactly what I just told you to do, and you said it didn't work? =)
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| 10:23 | <bakytn> yes.
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| 10:23 | sorry.
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| 10:23 | and thank you!
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| 10:24 | <Hyperbyte> You're welcome...
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| 10:56 | <bobapple> hi guys
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| 10:56 | is somebody here who has experience with ltsp and fedora 15? or are there any papers that would help?
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| 10:58 | <Appiah> hmm 15
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| 10:59 | https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/ bobapple
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| 10:59 | <bobapple> thx Appiah i read that already
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| 10:59 | <Appiah> they have their own mailing list
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| 10:59 | <bobapple> and i have ltsp running with fedora 13 very good
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| 10:59 | <Appiah> and a own irc channel perhaps
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| 10:59 | <bobapple> but now i tried f15 and got in some trouble
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| 11:01 | <Appiah> how long has f15 been around?
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| 11:02 | <bobapple> #join #ltspf15
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| 11:02 | <Appiah> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/EL6Status
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| 11:02 | Broken
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| 11:04 | <bakytn> what kind of troubles?
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| 11:04 | can you be more specific
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| 11:07 | <Appiah> I'm just reading from the page
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| 11:07 | "BROKEN - MUST FIX"
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| 11:07 | "Status of K12Linux EL6"
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| 11:07 | if K12Linux EL6 is the same as F15
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| 11:08 | (I dont know anything about fedora)
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| 11:25 | <bobapple> it is working with f13, just f15 makes problems, i think it's the systemd
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| 11:25 | thank you Appiah
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| 11:31 | <bakytn> guys, how are you administering LTSP users? Is there anything like radmin (remote viewing of the desktop) ?
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| 11:50 | <Appiah> bakytn: I've tried iTalc but we never got it to work that smoothly..
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| 11:50 | that was 2years ago
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| 11:51 | <bakytn> thanks will look at it
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| 11:51 | <Appiah> but the need for remote assistance has been close to 0
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| 11:52 | <bakytn> I know...I would never use it too but here the guys really want such kind of things...I am having to find solutions for them.
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| 11:56 | <Appiah> I understand
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| 11:56 | let me know how it works nowdays :)
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| 11:59 | <bakytn> I see that it was recentely updated and the project is active which is great
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| 12:03 | <bakytn> will let you know if things go well
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| 12:03 | or not well :D
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| 12:12 | <Hyperbyte> bobapple, still here?
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| 12:12 | <bobapple> yep
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| 12:12 | <Hyperbyte> !fedora | echo bobapple
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| 12:12 | <ltsp> bobapple fedora: LTSP for Fedora is maintained by the K12Linux project. Currently support only goes as far as Fedora 12. An LTSP version for RedHat EL6 and possibly Fedora 14 is in development. https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/.
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| 12:13 | <bobapple> thanks Hyperbyte, I'm trying it anyway to use it with F15, will see the result :)
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| 12:14 | <Hyperbyte> Basically, Warren Togami (who is the one who maintains the Fedora LTSP implementation) has stated that he'll never make an LTSP for Fedora 15 because of incompatibility issues, arising from Gnome 3 and certain kernel features that are dropped with Fedora 15
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| 12:14 | You can try, but it will be a waste of your time.
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| 12:14 | Warren Togami does have a beta version of LTSP for Fedora 14, he's ready to release it in the coming weeks I think, if he hasn't already (been absent for a weekend)
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| 12:15 | He has done lots of hacking and modifying in both the LTSP source code and Fedora packages to get things working for Fedora 14.
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| 12:16 | I don't want to discourage you too much, but unless you're a Linux hacker wizard, you're not going to succeed getting it to run smoothly with Fedora 15.
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| 12:17 | <Hyperbyte> And if you think I'm biased: I'm a long-time Fedora fan, used it since version 1... but for my LTSP server I switched to Ubuntu, because I couldn't get the desired results with even Fedora 13. This is before Warren's new beta F14 version of course, so Fedora 14 would probably work now.
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| 12:18 | <bobapple> ok thats very clear, thanks for that
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| 12:18 | is there any release date for fedora 14?
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| 12:18 | <Hyperbyte> No, but you can subscribe to the k12linux list for updates.
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| 12:19 | I'm subscribed there as well.. let me check the latest
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| 12:20 | Been to Norway for a long weekend, so I'm not up to date at the moment. :)
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| 12:20 | <bobapple> that's ok, i was just asking
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| 12:20 | <Hyperbyte> Currently he's in the documentation stage.
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| 12:21 | <bobapple> because i need to decide now if i wait for fedora 14 release, change to ubuntu, or something else
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| 12:21 | <Hyperbyte> I think it's gonna be soon when he release a public beta, rather than closed.
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| 12:21 | Well, technically, if the Fedora 14 beta works as promised, then you should be OK with that for now.
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| 12:22 | Fedora 14 is going 'end of life' soon though, so no more updates.
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| 12:22 | <bobapple> that was the reason i wanted to use f15
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| 12:23 | <Hyperbyte> If you're only familiar with Fedora, switching to Ubuntu will take some getting used to. On the other hand, Ubuntu does have the strongest LTSP community and support.
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| 12:28 | Still, you know, you can find LTSP Fedora 14 help here. I could probably help you a little. You could also launch questions on the k12linux mailing list... so there is Fedora support as well.
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| 12:28 | I guess you have a mind to make up. =)
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| 12:39 | <bobapple> am i right that there is already a closed beta of the fedora 14 release?
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| 13:03 | <Hyperbyte> bobapple, yes, donaters to the k12linux fund drive got it.
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| 13:07 | <pmatulis> how do i mount a samba share upon client login? ideally getting an icon on the desktop
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| 13:07 | <Hyperbyte> pmatulis, look at CIFS. This is how you can mount Samba shares in Linux.
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| 13:08 | <pmatulis> Hyperbyte: that's fine, but how to automate it?
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| 13:08 | <Hyperbyte> It's a different share for every user?
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| 13:08 | <pmatulis> Hyperbyte: yes
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| 13:09 | Hyperbyte: but if it wasn't, how would i do it?
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| 13:09 | <Hyperbyte> If it wasn't, I would just mount it via /etc/fstab and make a shortcut on everyone's desktop
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| 13:09 | Else, you can use autofs + cifs, or write some script that runs on client login... perhaps by making a .desktop file calling it, in /etc/xdg/autostart
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| 13:10 | <pmatulis> Hyperbyte: modify client chroot ya?
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| 13:12 | <Hyperbyte> No, this you would all do on server.
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| 13:12 | In fact, it's not LTSP related. :)
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| 13:15 | <pmatulis> Hyperbyte: you said "write some script that runs on client login". sounds ltsp-related
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| 13:17 | <Hyperbyte> Well let's call it 'user login'
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| 13:17 | Then it suddenly doesn't sound LTSP related. :)
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| 13:20 | <bobapple> pmatulis: you can use pam_mount (even if it isn't the same share for every user)
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| 13:21 | <pmatulis> bobapple: i'm thinking keeping the share permanently mounted and then doing something when the client logs in that creates an icon/link to it
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| 13:22 | <bobapple> then fstab and a login script is your friend, as Hyperbyte said :)
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| 13:23 | <pmatulis> bobapple: yeah, 'login script' is vague
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| 13:24 | <bobapple> put a line like "/usr/local/bin/my_login_script" into ~/.profile for every user
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| 13:24 | in that script you can check if the desctop icon already exists, if not create it
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| 13:26 | <Hyperbyte> bobapple, I think doing that via /etc/xdg/autostart is much better.
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| 13:27 | <bobapple> if it really is for every user, your right, but with .profile you have a small control over users who should not get the icons
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| 13:29 | <Hyperbyte> And users can disable them themselves, or accidentally delete the file
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| 13:29 | Also, it'll run on non-graphical logins, and I think it -might- be executed for every terminal the user opens as well
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| 13:30 | <Gremble> hey all
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| 13:30 | anyone having trouble with flash and sound on the clients?
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| 13:30 | it used to work but now doesn't after upgrade
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| 13:30 | there must be some good docs on this surely?
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| 13:31 | <TheMatrix3000> what should i put in the lts.conf file for chrome to run as local app
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| 13:31 | <bobapple> .profile does not have the same behaviour as .bashrc, it will just execute on the first login, but an manipulation by the user itself is imaginable
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| 13:31 | <TheMatrix3000> using "chrome" didn't work, should I use "google-chrome"
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| 13:32 | <bobapple> TheMatrix3000: have a look at /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/applications and put the string in front of ".desktop"
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| 13:32 | if it is google-chrome.desktop you have to use "google-chrome"
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| 13:33 | <TheMatrix3000> !lts.cofn
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| 13:33 | <ltsp> TheMatrix3000: I do not know about 'lts.cofn', but I do know about these similar topics: 'lts.conf'
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| 13:33 | <TheMatrix3000> !lts.conf
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| 13:33 | <ltsp> TheMatrix3000: lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf.
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| 13:39 | <TheMatrix3000> anyone here know how or what to put in as LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS = what? for google chrome
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| 13:40 | <Hyperbyte> TheMatrix3000, do you have bobapple on ignore by any chance?
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| 13:41 | <TheMatrix3000> yea, oops wonder how that happend
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| 13:42 | <Hyperbyte> 15:32 <bobapple> TheMatrix3000: have a look at /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/applications and put the string in front of ".desktop"
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| 13:42 | 15:32 <bobapple> if it is google-chrome.desktop you have to use "google-chrome"
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| 13:42 | <TheMatrix3000> it's not in there
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| 13:42 | should i add it into there
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| 13:44 | <Hyperbyte> !install-localapp | echo TheMatrix3000
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| 13:44 | <ltsp> TheMatrix3000 install-localapp: To install an application locally on the client, in the chroot environment, use this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/GuiInstallLocalApp For non-graphical installations, you can skip steps 1 and 2..
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| 13:44 | <TheMatrix3000> yea, iim working on it
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| 13:44 | <Hyperbyte> If you want to run Chrome as a localapp on the client, you'll have to install it in the client chroot.
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| 13:45 | <TheMatrix3000> i already have it installed
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| 13:45 | http://pastebin.com/xwfjgMQp
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| 13:46 | should i just do a cp /usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop
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| 13:47 | <Hyperbyte> There is no /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop ?
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| 13:47 | <TheMatrix3000> nope
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| 13:48 | <Hyperbyte> You didn't by any chance get any errors during install, which you completely chose to ignore? :)
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| 13:48 | <TheMatrix3000> but it is installed as a localapp
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| 13:48 | nope
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| 13:48 | no install errors
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| 13:48 | <Hyperbyte> Then there should be a .desktop file I think. You can try the copy I guess?
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| 13:56 | <TheMatrix3000> ooo
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| 13:56 | what does this mean
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| 13:56 | http://pastebin.com/MFekZRUR
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| 13:58 | <Hyperbyte> That is the error I asked about earlier, which you said didn't appear, which means Chrome couldn't create a .desktop menu icon.
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| 13:58 | :)
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| 13:59 | <TheMatrix3000> well i just did a purge
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| 13:59 | and a reinstall
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| 13:59 | and that's the error i got
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| 14:00 | so how do I fix that
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| 14:00 | <Hyperbyte> If manually copying the .desktop file didn't work, no idea.
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| 14:00 | <TheMatrix3000> oh let me try with the cp
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| 14:00 | and then see
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| 14:01 | i didn't fully go through with it
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| 14:03 | wth
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| 14:03 | ok
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| 14:03 | i need to find the internet menu items
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| 14:03 | cause it didn't work
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| 14:03 | chrome is not as friendly as firefox lol
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| 14:05 | <bobapple> if nothing helps you can create your own icon
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| 14:05 | <TheMatrix3000> and what should the link in the icon be
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| 14:05 | could i manually do a ltsp-localapps chrome?
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| 14:05 | <bobapple> have a look into other, already existing icons, to see how it is made
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| 14:06 | you can download an .png image from the internet and put it into /usr/share/icons
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| 14:06 | then use the name of this icon in your .desktop file
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| 14:06 | and the execution command
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| 14:07 | [Desktop Entry]
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| 14:07 | Name=Google Chrome
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| 14:07 | Comment=Google Chrome Browser
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| 14:07 | Exec=google-chrome
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| 14:07 | Icon=chrome.png
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| 14:07 | Terminal=0
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| 14:07 | Type=Application
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| 14:07 | Encoding=UTF-8
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| 14:07 | Categories=Network;Application;
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| 14:07 | that's how my chrome.desktop looks like
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| 14:10 | <Hyperbyte> !pastebin
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| 14:10 | <ltsp> Hyperbyte: pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here..
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| 14:10 | <bobapple> sry :/
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| 14:10 | <Hyperbyte> No worries. :-)
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| 14:11 | <bobapple> http://pastebin.com/KgTLzMaH
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| 14:15 | <TheMatrix3000> ok
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| 14:15 | i need to find out where the menu desktop links are
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| 14:15 | so i can modify it
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| 14:16 | then i think ill be fine
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| 14:16 | <Hyperbyte> eh... /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/applications/
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| 14:20 | <TheMatrix3000> oh i figured it out
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| 14:20 | the link in the desktop file is a /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome %u
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| 14:20 | when i need to prolly make it a ltsp-localapps google-chrome %U
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| 14:20 | right?
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| 14:21 | <bobapple> when you are in your chroot, can you execute the command "google-chrome" ?
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| 14:22 | i mean, does this command exist?
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| 14:26 | <andygraybeal> [ot] hey guys, check out some photos of me mowing my lawn (they are on facebook, so i don't know if they will work, i made them public) http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.161198977291688.39846.100002047604955
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| 14:28 | <TheMatrix3000> i got it
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| 14:29 | copying the file, and changing lts.conf to google-chrome and updating the image worked
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| 14:31 | <Hyperbyte> andygraybeal, you really look like Conan the Barbarian or something in those pictures. =D
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| 14:31 | Badass.
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| 14:31 | <blueonyx> hi, is there a way to use the LDM_SOCKET from outside LDM?
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| 14:31 | <andygraybeal> :)))))
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| 14:32 | Hyperbyte, friend me if you are on FB :)
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| 14:34 | <blueonyx> or how does LDM open its ssh control socket?
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| 14:35 | <bobapple> Hyperbyte: http://mplug.org/~k12linux/rpm/
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| 14:37 | <Hyperbyte> That's public beta?
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| 14:38 | <bobapple> looks like it is
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| 14:38 | <Hyperbyte> andygraybeal, alright, but I don't really use Facebook.
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| 14:38 | bobapple, where'd you get the link?
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| 14:38 | <bobapple> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide
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| 14:38 | <andygraybeal> Hyperbyte, yea, don't bother then :) it's cool.. thanks for looking, thats what i did Sunday
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| 14:38 | <Hyperbyte> andygraybeal, badass axe. Well not really axe... it's scythe in English, isn't it?
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| 14:44 | <TheMatrix3000> man, chrome is vicious to servers man
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| 14:44 | i had like 80 instances of chrome running
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| 14:44 | and only a few people using it
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| 14:44 | lol
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| 14:44 | thank god its now a localapp
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| 14:47 | <Gremble> any idea on my flash plugin sound issue anyone?
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| 14:48 | <mgariepy> Gremble, wath is your flash issue ?
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| 14:48 | <Gremble> no sound on clients
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| 14:49 | we used to do this through the extrasound library
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| 14:49 | but it doesn't work with recent plugin versions
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| 14:49 | <mgariepy> are you running it on the thin client as a localapps or on the server ?
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| 14:49 | <Gremble> server
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| 14:49 | <Hyperbyte> TheMatrix3000, ever heard of Gnome watchdog? It can kill processes of logged out users.
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| 14:50 | <Gremble> so we need to re-direct sound through to the clients pulseaudio somehow mgariepy
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| 14:50 | <andygraybeal> Hyperbyte, yea, scythe :)
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| 14:50 | <mgariepy> is sound working for other apps?
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| 14:50 | <andygraybeal> hi TheMatrix3000!!
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| 14:50 | <Gremble> yes mgariepy
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| 14:55 | and I've followed the alsa redirect instructions in /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/README.Debian.sound
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| 14:55 | <TheMatrix3000> yea, i have
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| 14:56 | but the users werent logged out Hyperbyte
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| 14:56 | its just chrome creating a new instance each tab i think
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| 14:56 | we have usually 50 users connected to our server at any second
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| 14:56 | only about 6 use chrome
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| 14:56 | but its all good now
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| 15:06 | <blueonyx> does anyone know how ldm starts its ssh session?
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| 15:13 | <Gremble> <mgariepy> is sound working for other apps?
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| 15:13 | got it working now
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| 15:13 | <mgariepy> Gremble, good
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| 15:14 | <Hyperbyte> blueonyx, what exactly do you mean?
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| 15:14 | <Gremble> install flashplugin-nonfree after removing all other obsolete libraries and stuff, it got flash 11beta2 downloaded, where it all works
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| 15:15 | <blueonyx> Hyperbyte: ldm mounts the user's home per sshfs on graphical login. on my fat clients my users login through ssh, but i want their homes mounted the same way
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| 15:16 | so i need rights to create home directories and need to ssh to my ltsp server
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| 15:18 | <bobapple> see you guys
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| 18:16 | * _UsUrPeR_ waves | |
| 18:16 | <_UsUrPeR_> hey all
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| 18:17 | <_UsUrPeR_> I am trying to come up with a way to, from the server, determine client hardware and either A) allow lts.conf LOCALAPPS = "true/false" or B) Run a wrapper script from the server that will check hardware prior to running programs.
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| 18:18 | for option B: I was thinking something like "hardware=`ltsp-localapps inventory |grep PROCESSOR|cut "blah" -f 4`" and "If $hardware = "xyz" then ltsp-localapps firefox; else firefox"
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| 18:18 | can anybody give me a succinct way of doing that? Is option B even feasible?
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| 18:59 | <TheMatrix3000> question
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| 18:59 | when i run apps locally, how come the graphics look wierd
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| 18:59 | like the colors are basic
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| 18:59 | etc
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| 19:08 | <_UsUrPeR_> TheMatrix3000: I have not personally experienced that. What local programs are you having trouble with?
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| 19:08 | Gadi: ping?
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| 19:10 | <TheMatrix3000> http://screencast.com/t/3gkU66RW
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| 19:10 | http://screencast.com/t/uz8m09d3c5ol
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| 19:10 | First Image is Chrome as Local App
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| 19:11 | Second Image is Chrome on Server
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| 19:11 | same thing with firefox
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| 19:11 | Firefox 5.0 on Server - http://screencast.com/t/4f92zNQ1W1Q
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| 19:12 | Firefox 5.0 as Local App - http://screencast.com/t/ae8PCNJ9a
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| 19:16 | <_UsUrPeR_> TheMatrix3000: I don't mean to be dense, but i don't see any specific problems with the screen shots, aside from the theme being different between localapps and server apps
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| 19:16 | <mgariepy> TheMatrix3000, install light-themes in your chroot to have firefox looking the same as one the appserver.
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| 19:16 | <_UsUrPeR_> I.E. window surround looks different
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| 19:17 | <TheMatrix3000> well, it's not a problem, its an innconvience
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| 19:17 | <_UsUrPeR_> there you go
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| 19:17 | <TheMatrix3000> how big is the package?
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| 19:17 | <_UsUrPeR_> not sure
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| 19:17 | got do an apt-get. it will tell you :)
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| 19:17 | <mgariepy> Size: 68094
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| 19:17 | <TheMatrix3000> doing it now
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| 19:17 | lol
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| 19:20 | ha
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| 19:20 | it only uses 7.8mb more
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| 19:34 | <TheMatrix3000> ha
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| 19:34 | i just installed unity-2d on ltsp
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| 19:37 | <Gadi> _UsUrPeR_: real quick pong
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| 19:37 | <_UsUrPeR_> gadi: belay that
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| 19:37 | thanks
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| 19:37 | unless you can quickly answer a question above
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| 19:37 | not sure if you see it
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| 19:37 | <Gadi> nope
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| 19:37 | <_UsUrPeR_> localapps differentiation for hardware
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| 19:38 | ill pm you quick
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| 19:39 | <TheMatrix3000> oh
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| 19:39 | i have to install it on both ltsp-localapp
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| 19:39 | <mgariepy> _UsUrPeR_, with ltsp-cluster, we get the inventory for all clients like cpu ram pciids, then we can create groups based on that.
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| 19:41 | <_UsUrPeR_> mgariepy: gotcha.
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| 19:44 | <mgariepy> _UsUrPeR_, maybe having something turning on/off localapps based on CPU or RAM would be easy to do.
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| 19:44 | <_UsUrPeR_> yeah, that's probably how it's going to go
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| 19:48 | <TheMatrix3000> hmm....
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| 19:49 | <TheMatrix3000> Has anyone attempted to run Ubuntu Unity 2d on LTSP
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| 19:50 | <TheMatrix3000> I am noticing that local apps
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| 19:50 | do not function properly with the menu
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| 19:50 | you know when you enlarge the winow
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| 19:50 | it should do this
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| 19:50 | http://screencast.com/t/Abn9TbVMx
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| 19:51 | but it instead is doing this
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| 19:51 | http://screencast.com/t/tRCsw7Fu
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| 19:55 | !lts.conf
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| 19:55 | <ltsp> TheMatrix3000: lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf.
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| 19:56 | <mgariepy> TheMatrix3000, Do you have firefox-globalmenu package installed in you chroot ?
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| 19:57 | <TheMatrix3000> ha
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| 19:57 | no
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| 19:57 | let me try again
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| 19:58 | do i need to have unity2d also installed on localapp?
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| 19:58 | or is just on the server fine?
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| 19:59 | <mgariepy> i would guess only on the server
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| 20:00 | <TheMatrix3000> mgariepy: that had no effect
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| 20:01 | <TheMatrix3000> mgariepy: globalmenu did not make a difference
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| 20:05 | <mgariepy> well i have no idea then
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| 20:15 | <TheMatrix3000> unity is def not ltsp friendly
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| 20:15 | may want to mention that somewhere lol
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| 20:21 | <TheMatrix3000> hey alkisg
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| 20:21 | <alkisg> Hi TheMatrix3000, hi all
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| 20:21 | <TheMatrix3000> You know anyone running Unity-2d? on ltsp
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| 20:21 | <alkisg> I think all edubuntu natty users use that, no?
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| 20:21 | * alkisg and all greek schools are still on 10.04 | |
| 20:24 | <andygraybeal> 10.04 ftw!
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| 20:24 | :P
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| 20:24 | <TheMatrix3000> Well, Unity 3d forces to Classic if you don't have the graphics
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| 20:25 | but you can run 2d if you install it
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| 20:25 | but when I installed it the graphics on thin clients were messed up
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| 20:25 | like the side bar wouldn't disapear etc
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| 20:26 | <alkisg> I haven't worked with unity much, but personally I don't think it's better than the classic gnome desktop yet, so I wouldn't use it on production
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| 20:27 | <TheMatrix3000> ah, true
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| 20:27 | i just removed it and went back to classic
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| 20:27 | as it's faster still
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| 20:28 | <alkisg> Also I think unity-2d was too ...beta in 11.04, i'm hearing that it's better now on oneiric
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| 20:29 | I don't really like its interface though, it seems to me that they took out the well structured menus and gave us a chaotic, android-like interface, where one cannot locate the apps that he wants to run
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| 20:29 | <TheMatrix3000> well im on 11.04
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| 20:29 | yep, mac+android = sucks at life
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| 20:30 | <alkisg> I do like the extra screen space (less scroolbars + less menus etc)
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| 20:30 | <TheMatrix3000> yea
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| 20:30 | and teh sidebar is nice
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| 20:40 | <alkisg> _UsUrPeR_: you can put scripts that generate lts.conf variables based on code, in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/ltsp_config.d
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| 20:40 | <_UsUrPeR_> alkisg: great thanks
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| 20:41 | <alkisg> They're sourced, not executed, so anything you export there goes in lts.conf
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| 20:41 | (actually, in the environment of the client initscripts)
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| 20:41 | <TheMatrix3000> that's kinda cool
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