IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 9 October 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 09:13 | <ltspuser_38> Hello. My terminal only boots when I'm using the 19'' monitor...
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| 09:13 | when I use an old one the terminal doesn't boot...
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| 09:13 | I think it's the resolution...
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| 09:14 | but I don't know how to change it...
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| 09:26 | <Hyperbyte> ltspuser_38, hi
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| 09:27 | Several things:
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| 09:27 | Read up on the XRANDR_ entries in lts.conf
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| 09:27 | !lts.conf
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| 09:27 | <ltsp> lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 09:27 | <Hyperbyte> There are other X* options in there that might be useful.
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| 09:28 | Also this might help:
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| 09:28 | !nomodeset
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| 09:28 | <ltsp> nomodeset: Unfortunately, Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) doesn't work well with some cards. To disable it, open /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and replace "quiet splash" with "nomodeset".
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| 09:28 | <Hyperbyte> And you could as well do this, to get a root prompt on the terminal instead of graphical login and do some further debugging:
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| 09:28 | !screen_02
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| 09:28 | <ltsp> screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
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| 09:29 | <Hyperbyte> Should get you going in the right direction...
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| 09:34 | <ltspuser_38> ok
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| 09:34 | I will try to do these steps
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| 09:34 | thks
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| 09:38 | <ltspuser_38> only one question: what nomodeset do?
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| 09:38 | <Hyperbyte> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_Mode_Setting
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| 09:39 | http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting
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| 09:39 | That is technical explanation of kernel mode setting. nomodeset disables it.
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| 09:40 | Since whatever you are modifying on the LTSP server for this, will not break the server, you can just experiment with different settings, and if they don't give desired results, undo them
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| 09:40 | Tip: make backups of files before you edit them.
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| 10:39 | <markit> hi alkisg, is it normal / is easy to fix that when /usr/bin/startkde is run after ldm login, the user does not have the "ownership" of his home? It's this that breaks the "lnusertemp" work
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| 10:40 | <alkisg> markit: I don't think that's true, but /me has to go now, bbl
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| 10:40 | <markit> bye :)
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| 10:41 | anyone that knows hot this stuff work? I mean, if when the /usr/bin/startWHATEVER runs, the home does already belong to the user?
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| 10:41 | and if not if can be fixed?
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| 10:45 | <rickogden> using ltsp-pnp, if I don't remove a user before building the image, will that allow that user to login to the LTSP client locally?
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| 10:46 | <markit> rickogden: I don't (yet) use -pnp, but I do hope that authentication is done by the server, and /home is on the server too
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| 10:46 | <rickogden> markit: yes it is normally
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| 10:47 | <rickogden> I just want to be able to log into the client to do some debugging
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| 10:47 | <ltspuser_38> the LDM screen must be the SCREEN_07??
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| 10:47 | <ltspuser_38> because when I choose the SCREEN_02 the terminal doesn't boot
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| 10:47 | <markit> rickogden: maybe an SCREEN_02=true in lts.conf can help
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| 10:48 | rickogden: then you should be able to activate the terminal console as (local) root
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| 10:48 | <rickogden> markit: I can get a local login screen, but obviously won't let me login as there is no loginable user in /etc/passwd
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| 10:48 | <markit> ltspuser_38: beware that screen_02 is "reserved" for text console
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| 10:48 | <rickogden> I'm going to give it a shot by not removing a user
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| 10:49 | <markit> rickogden: don't you login as root?
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| 10:49 | automatically I mean
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| 10:49 | when you enter the screen_02
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| 10:49 | <rickogden> oh right, no
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| 10:49 | <ltspuser_38> wich SCREENs can I use?
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| 10:50 | <markit> ltspuser_38: don't know... do you really have to change the _07 default?
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| 10:50 | <ltspuser_38> no...
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| 10:50 | I can use SCREEN_07
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| 10:50 | <markit> so don't change it :)
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| 10:50 | <ltspuser_38> ok
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| 10:50 | :P
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| 11:07 | With ubuntu 12.04 and a LDM session I can do login with the same user in different clients... How can I disable that? If the user do the login in another client the last session that is open should be terminated...
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| 11:08 | <ogra_> man lts.conf ... iirc there is an option for it
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| 11:11 | <ltspuser_38> iirc?
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| 11:12 | <ogra_> if i remember correctly
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| 11:16 | <andygraybeal> morning
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| 11:25 | <ltspuser_38> I have a terminal and the boot stucks on Ubuntu's splash screen...
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| 11:26 | is loading and it's stuck
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| 11:26 | why?
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| 11:26 | could be the terminal?
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| 11:26 | with the other terminals that I have here this scenario works...
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| 11:27 | <alkisg> !quiet-splash
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| 11:27 | <ltsp> quiet-splash: to disable the splash screen in Ubuntu, in order to see any boot error messages, run sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and remove quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7
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| 11:30 | <alkisg> rickogden: no, ltsp-pnp doesn't put the server users in the chroot, it removes them before publishing the disk. But you can use SCREEN_02=shell to login as root, and then create a local user.
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| 11:32 | <markit> ltspuser_38: in lts.conf set LDM_LIMIT_ONE_SESSION=True
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| 11:33 | ltspuser_38: this is the answer about the fact that you can connect in multiple clients with the same account
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| 11:33 | but every connection drops existing one
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| 11:33 | the solution is... create "n" accounts with secret password ;P
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| 11:33 | <ltspuser_38> I removed splash screen and stuck in eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex...
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| 11:34 | and this message is shown every 5 seconds...
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| 11:37 | <markit> ltspuser_38: I've no idea, if other clients work, I would try rebooting the server and starting only that broken client just to be sure, maybe changing cable / switch port with one that works with a different client
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| 11:37 | btw, I've to go back to work, sorry
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| 14:33 | <Hyperbyte> mhmm
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| 14:57 | <dead_inside> sup Hyperbyte
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| 15:35 | <ltspuser_36> hi
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| 15:35 | i am new to LTSP setup on Ubuntu
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| 15:35 | can i get different IP on all thin clients in LTSP?
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| 15:38 | <andygraybeal> hmm he left
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| 15:38 | what kind of crack head question is that :P
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| 15:53 | <||cw> are all these ltspuser_## nicks the same guy? he does ask some doosies
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| 15:56 | <andygraybeal> ||cw, :)
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| 16:17 | <ltspuser_56> anyone please help me how to connect thinclient
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| 16:17 | <dead_inside> all of the ltspuser_## are people coming from the web irc client
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| 16:17 | ||cw
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| 16:18 | http://ltsp.org/irc/
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| 16:19 | <||cw> dead_inside: is this a new thing? never seen so many
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| 16:20 | <dead_inside> i believe thats been available sense the new ltsp.org website went online, just people are finally starting to realize it
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| 16:24 | <andygraybeal> ltspuser_56, hey, we'll need a bit more information to help you better.
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| 16:24 | ltspuser_56, what operating system are you using?
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| 16:24 | and have yuo read the documentation yet?
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| 16:25 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP <-- this is my goto for documentation
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| 16:25 | <||cw> ok that's kind of annoying, it should let you pick your own username
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| 16:25 | <knipwim> and get a lot of username exists on server?
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| 16:27 | <dead_inside> i kinda like it cause then i know to treat ltspuser_## as someone who does not know irc etiquette
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| 16:30 | <||cw> I like defaults that can changed
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| 16:30 | can be^^
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| 16:30 | knipwim: the server handles that already using Guest####
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| 16:31 | <knipwim> ||cw: i'll put it on the suggestions list
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| 16:32 | <||cw> the main issue is, as we saw the other day, someone keeps leaving and coming back, and getting a new ##, and assuming you know it is still the same person
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| 16:35 | <dead_inside> thats a good point ||cw
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| 16:35 | i agree with your suggestion of the option to change the username
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| 16:40 | <Mip5> Morning All - Can I setup Auto shutdown to power down thin clients even if folks are still logged in? I'm using 12.04.1
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| 16:41 | <||cw> Mip5: as in, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/AutomatedTCShutodwn ?
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| 16:42 | <||cw> or some other method?
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| 16:44 | <Mip5> That page indicates it's for older versions, nothing since 9.04.
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| 17:01 | <||cw> Mip5: and it doens't still work?
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| 17:03 | <Mip5> cw: I didn't want to try it on a production system given that no one updated that it worked for 10.04, or 12.04. Do you use it?
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| 17:23 | <Mip5> The way we've done auto shutdown in the past is to edit lts.conf to include a line specifying SHUTDOWN_TIME, and TIME_SERVER, but that doesn't work when students are still logged in.
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| 18:27 | <dead_inside> Mip5 i have used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/AutomatedTCShutodwn on 10.04 and 11.11 and 12.04 production environments
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| 18:27 | it works
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| 18:29 | i have also used and highly recommend the ltsp.conf variable SHUTDOWN_TIME
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| 18:29 | <||cw> it's a pretty simple thing, all you need to do is varify that the commands and conf options are still valid, and maybe update them slightly
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| 18:57 | <Mip5> dead_inside: Thanks for the update. I'll give them a shot.
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| 18:58 | <dead_inside> no problem
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| 18:58 | <Mip5> | | cw: Thanks too
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| 22:58 | <Mip5> G'night y'all. The shutdown script worked, but I have not been able to get the zenity warning script to work. I'll keep on it, and keep you posted.
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| 23:50 | <highvoltage> where can I get a copy of the BTS group photo?
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| 23:53 | <stgraber> highvoltage: on mediatomb01
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| 23:54 | <highvoltage> cool :)
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| 23:56 | stgraber: can I use it?
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| 23:56 | <stgraber> highvoltage: sure. I should have the rest cleaned up and published next week
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