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brb, quick shower.
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who is here for the K12Linux meeting?
I'm about 75% done on the html README, btw
hope to finish today
nothing fancy, but many screenshots
are you going to upload it to a static URL somewhere so others can comment on it?
Yes, I'll stick it on my server and post a link to it to the mailing list
OK, so on my end, no progress on the branding issue. I'm going to give him a call again tomorrow to see if we can do anything.
it's not much, but I think it will help; *I* like how-to's with lotsa pix
Is he just not responding?
he responded once or twice recently with "what time would you like to talk?"
but not after that
I'll call him tomorrow
if that doesn't work, do you have any ideas for other names?
or just K12LTSP
not that I have anything better to offer
Aside from this, I'm soon at 5 releases since the last push to Fedora updates.
Fedora infrastructure being down slowed things a lot
I need to finish up this latest release of ltsp and ldm
a few more tiny bug fixes
do you use any sort of VM for client testing?
petre: I may spin a pre-beta2 image for you to test with the new README
petre: my laptop has hardware virt so I use the included ltsp-vmclient which works out of the box
oh, right, I fired that up a while ago
ltsp-vmclient works without hardware virt but it is really slow
quite a while ago, actually
that's okay, I mostly just want to get a screenshot of the login screen
so speed doesn't matter
in other news
petre: well, the login screen will change with rebranding
if we secure the k12linux name
or if we use a different name
http://wtogami.livejournal.com/27915.html I'm searching for vendors and model options of Intel Atom-based thin clients.
I have nothing else to report for this meeting. I want to get back to work to get ltsp-5.1.20 released.
petre: btw, what is your full name?
petre: I want to add you to credits
sorry, I stepped away to fix my wife's laptop
warren: Peter Scheie
when do you expect to have the pre-beta2 ready?
a few days from now
maybe even tomorrow
why do you want 2GB RAM in the Atom TCs?
local app video?
2GB seems like a lot for a TC
although RAM is pretty cheap any more I suppose
petre: local apps
petre: Atom is cheap enough that buying it with 2GB, you might as well
petre: it will last a LONG TIME with that kind of power
I've run servers with less RAM
but you are correct, it would lengthen the life of the tc
petre: sure, but this is the future we're talking about.
these are not TC's of the past
these are TC's that could run entirely their own software
with 3D graphis
I've read several stories over the years about TC installations in which the author says it's easier to get people to spend money for glitz than to save money by going low-end
I don't get it, but I know I'm a bit more of a cheapskate than most
petre: you could get Intel Atom with 2GB RAM, full system for about $200 each now.
so, small, fanless 2GB clients for $200 may be easier to sell to people than $100 ebox-2300
have you seen the ebox 4300 in action?
more ram, faster chip
~$230 I think, not sure how it compares to Atom
I want to see specs
petre: one customer that i'm working with now is definitely aiming to be futured proofed
looking at your blog post, why the interest in SD slots?
pics from cameras?
petre: just extra convenience for users
petre: I mean those two other boxes have them
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I intend on tagging both ltsp and ldm today.
pardon my ignorance, but what does tagging mean?
petre: new version numbers are tagged in bzr
petre: several releases ago was ltsp-5.1.19
several revisions ago
petre: the last version to be pushed to fedora updates was ltsp-5.1.15
ah, the gap caused by fedora's server problems
I also didn't push anything since then
that was you just be proactive ;-)
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tagging ldm now
ltsp a bit later
petre: OK, I might be able to spin a a pre-beta2 tomorrow if you can get me the HTML content
petre: so please upload it for review and let the list know ASAP
I hope to be finished within the next hour.
better make that two hours
I'll be back in a few hours.
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no trimming, F9 client chroot squashfs image is 172MB
that's pretty good, isn't it?
I could make NBD root the default on the live image
but then modifying it will be hard
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Hi, can someone please tell me where the pxe bootet ltsp-thin-client knows the ip address of the ltsp server for nfs/ssh ?
and all other information needed like the mount pah
the dhcp server can provide the root path
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johnny: is the dhcp server asked by the ltsp image itself again or does the pxe code provide the ip address
i think it asks again
i don't think the pxe code can pass info down
okay so in theory if i create a livecd which used kexec to boot the thin-client image i neednt attach any information
i don't get what you're trying to accomplish
Using old laptops as thin clients which dont have pxe but have pcmcia network cards
what are the specs of those??
these are some 3com megahertz 574bf
no.. the laptops
pxelinux can pass information recieved from the boot server, but it's not advised to use it (for some unexplained reason).
about 120 mhz, 40 mb ram
johnny: yes but it should work
just have to get those cards working
pleed: did you try gpxe ? they provide a cd-rom containing the boot images for most network cards
stgraber: yes but not for pcmcia cards
i think i ll build a livecd that will load the ltsp and kexec it
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hi, someone could tell me if there is a bootsplash project or something like to ltsp 5?
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pushed a heavily tested cleanup routine to ltsp-update-kernels
i'm tagging again soon
johnny: I thought of a simple (although hackish) way to get your distro to be cleaned up by this script without a lot of hassle.
johnny: for each kernel, touch vmlinuz-$name as just a blank filename, then genkernel-$arch-$name can be a pattern that is cleaned up.
johnny: perhaps this is too ugly though.
this wont clean up older kernels I guess
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warren, i'm not really concerned atm, I'll look into that when my stuff is actually in the trunk
johnny: yeah, everyone else lived without cleanup for years now
i'm just waiting for the review...
still need to get our initramfs generator maintainers to allow a newer busybox
need to find out why they are holding a patch for mdadm
i see mdadm stuff in buildroot scripts of busybox, not sure what it is doing there
buildroot scripts of upstream that is..
this is an area i don't know much about