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Channel log from 17 December 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<MasterOne>
hmpf, still no Gadi around when you need him :(
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<val_>
hey
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i couldnt connect to server from ltsp-client by telnet and rdesktop. What may be broken?
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fierwall is unavailible
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<ari_stress>
hello ogra
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is it possible to use student-control-panel with LDAP user?
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<daya>
can I integrate LTSP in debian as in edubuntu 7.10, which repo should I use,
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<BGomes>
!debian
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<ltspbot>
BGomes: "debian" is is a GNU/Linux based operating system that makes an excellent LTSP server. You can find it at http://www.debian.org. for information about LTSP on debian see http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP
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<BGomes>
daya: see that
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<daya>
BGomes, ye I have done it already, based on NFS ,
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BGomes, now I want as done by edubuntu 7.10 w/o nfs
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i.e based on nbd and squashfs
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<BGomes>
daya: use ubuntu for it
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<daya>
BGomes, can't I use debian and build into it,
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BGomes, is there is any tar available for it,
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<BGomes>
daya: debian don't have
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<daya>
BGomes, does ubuntu share the source code for it,
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<BGomes>
daya: you can get on bzr repository
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daya: !ubuntu
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!ubuntu
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<ltspbot>
BGomes: "ubuntu" is a Debian based GNU/Linux distrubution that includes a Ubuntu specific version of LTSP. It can be found at http://www.ubuntulinux.org. to install ltsp on ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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<daya>
BGomes, bzr
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<BGomes>
daya: yes, can you integration ltsp + squashfs from source at debian?
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<daya>
BGomes, that mean we can do from source at debian w/o nfs,
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<BGomes>
daya: that it
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<akSeya>
/msg MemoServ LIST
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hi there...
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<akSeya>
anyone here from Brazil?
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<akSeya>
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<BGomes>
akSeya: me
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<fel>
can someone help me with fusermount? the pen drive icon appears on the desktop, but i can't see the files inside it... when i try to mount the /tmp directory (one of steps in the troubleshooting) i get this error: fusermount: operation not permitted.
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<fel-br>
exit
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<Fisher>
hello!!! I'm getting a kernel panic on my ltsp stations
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I'm using ubuntu 7.04 and the distribution ltsp package
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<johnny>
hi
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hmm #ltsp been quiet last few days
12:10* lns is here
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<johnny>
sabayon list seems mostly dead
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suprises me
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<beak>
well don't ask me, I'm new here
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<johnny>
i need to know a few things
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<lns>
sabayon = b0rked (for me anyway) even on a new gutsy install
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<johnny>
like whether ~/.dbus should be in DIRECTORIES_TO_IGNORE, and also whether DIRECTORIES_TO_IGNORE should be allowed to be configured/overridden
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i have it working, it just won't stay working for future edits
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of the same profile
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<lns>
for me, it crashes when you try to edit a newly created profile
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<beak>
I was wondering about the Slackware port of LTSP 5. Asked about it on the mailing list and no one seems to have an answer. The website said someone was working on it, but I have no idea who that might be.
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<johnny>
no ideas here
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slackware seems less worked on these days
12:15* lns isn't sure either
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<lns>
poor slackware...used to be so uber.. ;)
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<johnny>
beak, i'm guessing that even if somebody is working on it, it won't keep up with upstream very well
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if there's only 1 person working on it
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<beak>
yeah, I was just wondering who that might be.
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<johnny>
sounds like nobody knows
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<beak>
If nothing else it be interesting testing it out.
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<johnny>
you're prolly gonna have to around on slackware lists
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<beak>
I mean I know that 4.2 runs on it just fine
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<johnny>
4.2 and 5 are far different creatures
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<beak>
but 5 is another story, cause of all the distro work it requires
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<johnny>
yes
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so, you're gonna have to go where the slackware devs live and ask there
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<beak>
sigh, probably
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<cliebow>
beak: if you catch jammcq..he may know who is working on it
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<lns>
is 4.2 supported still? Just curious - i know a TON of people still use it
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<beak>
I was hoping jim or one of the devs
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would know, cause it was on the wiki page
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<johnny>
kinda sorta its eems
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folks will answer questions if they know, but i doubt anything will be fixed on it
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most people running 4.2 who come in here seem to get pointed to upgrade
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<beak>
yeah, most of the dev work has been focused on 5
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that's the future
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<johnny>
hmm, so any suggestions on how to make 1 user get preference for all resources ?
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<vagrantc_>
johnny: nice all the other users?
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<johnny>
could do that i suppose
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<vagrantc_>
"and" or "verynice" could probably be configured to nice certain users.
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<vagrantc_>
otavio: so, i'm almost ready to uplod ltsp/ltspfs/ldm to debian ...
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<johnny>
yes.. welcome ogra
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<vagrantc_>
ogra: any comment on: http://bugs.debian.org/456327 ??
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the ltspfs version mentioned seems ancient ... and i'm not sure ubuntu is currently using it
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<vagrantc_>
(unsing the patches, that is)
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<mattwalston>
What is the variable to set to disable encryption or compression on a congested LAN?
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<johnny>
LDM_DIRECTX or just DIRECTX
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i forget which one
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<mattwalston>
johnny:
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johnny: thanks
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<vagrantc>
!seen otavio
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<ltspbot>
vagrantc: otavio was last seen in #ltsp 1 week, 2 days, 19 hours, 14 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <otavio> good night
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<otavio>
vagrantc: hi
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<vagrantc>
otavio: hey :)
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otavio: have time for uploads in the next day or two?
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<otavio>
vagrantc: :-)
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vagrantc: no problem
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vagrantc: just send me the packages and I do them as fast as possible
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<vagrantc>
otavio: they're much smaller now :)
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<otavio>
that's nice
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vagrantc: indeed
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vagrantc: how things are going to you?
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vagrantc: do you intend to come for DC8?
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<vagrantc>
otavio: hope so
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<otavio>
vagrantc: that would be nice :-)
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vagrantc: i'm looking forward to see you again
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<vagrantc>
otavio: it'll be a short trip for you, eh?
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<otavio>
vagrantc: hehe more or less
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vagrantc: much shorter but not that small
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vagrantc: just to cross brazil is already a long trip ;-)
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vagrantc: I don't know how many hours but I expect something like 6 hours or so
16:03* otavio compiling a new image for the thinclient :-)
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<vagrantc>
pwd
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<vagrantc>
otavio: so, i'm a little unsure what version to release ldm as ...
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otavio: since the versions in ltsp were based on ltsp 5.0.*
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otavio: i was thinking of maybe using 2:0.1 for the ldm version, since it was ldm 2, version 0.1 ...
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otavio: and then it will be a newer version than 5.0.*
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<otavio>
vagrantc: yes, it looks fine
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vagrantc: that's the reason for using epoch
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<jcastro>
sbalneav: around?
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ogra: around?
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<ace_suares>
!seen ogra
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<ltspbot>
ace_suares: ogra was last seen in #ltsp 4 days, 22 hours, 38 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <ogra> indeed
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<ace_suares>
!seen sbalneav
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<ltspbot>
ace_suares: sbalneav was last seen in #ltsp 3 days, 7 hours, 36 minutes, and 1 second ago: <sbalneav> I guess the idea is: ship it in the safe, encrypted mode, and then if people decide they can be less safe, in exchange for speed, then they can, easily.
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<vagrantc>
otavio: should we ditch the old debian/changelog and start new, or leave the existing history?
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i guess i'll keep the history
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<otavio>
vagrantc: for ldm I'd say to start a new one
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vagrantc: it's not ltsp
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vagrantc: it's ldm
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<vagrantc>
otavio: yes, but a huge portion of ldm's development was in ltsp's changelog
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otavio: but i can ditch it...
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<otavio>
vagrantc: it makes logical to me to just drop it
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<vagrantc>
otavio: ok.
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<otavio>
vagrantc: you can put a comment on changelog saying that it was part of ltsp and for old history would be nice to check over there
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<vagrantc>
otavio: another issue ... one of the GPL headers uses the old FSF address ...
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<otavio>
fix it
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<vagrantc>
otavio: but i can't change the liscense terms ...
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unless that's not really part of the liscense
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license
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<otavio>
the address isn't
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<vagrantc>
otavio: so, fix it in the source tree?
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otavio: not just debian/copyright?
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<otavio>
vagrantc: both
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<vagrantc>
otavio: :)
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well, i know if the source is changed i update debian/copyright :P
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<vagrantc>
otavio: ok, so now you need the .diff.gz, .dsc and .orig.tar.gz ?
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<otavio>
yes
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<vagrantc>
otavio: ldm sent.
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<otavio>
nice
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<vagrantc>
but i should be able to get ltsp to you in the next few days.
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maybe tonight even
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<ari_stress>
morning all :D
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<steph_>
hi everybody
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I would like to know if I can use the soundcard of a client rather than the server's soundcard?
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<vagrantc>
yes
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<steph_>
Actually, I can ear system's soud (ex. login.wav) but I can't connect to JACK
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I would like to install Ubuntu studio with LTSP at school (for music applications)
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<steph_>
aka light music applications
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<steph_>
I read about audio interface (ESD, ARTS, JACK, NASD, ...) but I can't figure what to do
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help would be appreciated. Thanks
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<vagrantc>
what linux distro ?
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what LTSP version ?
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ubuntu's LTSP should have sound support out of the box ...
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<steph_>
Actually Edubuntu 7.10 with Studio packages (stable)
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<vagrantc>
should work fine
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<steph_>
It has sound, but I can't use "professional" audio software. I can't even start JACK server
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<vagrantc>
i'm not acquainted with JACK
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<steph_>
Sorry, I can start JACK with the "dummy driver", but the sound comes from the server's speaker ?!?
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<vagrantc>
and if you need really high-quality audio, using thin-clients is probably not the best way to do it
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<steph_>
I know, but I need to teach light use of audio software in a classroom.
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<johnny>
steph_, you're gonna have to get real involved to get something like that to work
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it's not going to be easy
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<vagrantc>
steph_: you might try the pulseaudio-module-jack stuff
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<steph_>
And I thought ltsp is the best way to admin all that
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<johnny>
probably
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except the actual sound part :)
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<vagrantc>
"the best" depends on what you're doing
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having network-based sound is going to introduce latency which will degrade the sound quality
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<steph_>
User account, control of client, backup of only one PC.
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<vagrantc>
yeah, it's great for that.
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<steph_>
That's what i'm looking for
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What if I only use MIDI
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<vagrantc>
sound over network is going to have hiccups
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<johnny>
localapps would be necessary to do it nicely right?
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<vagrantc>
steph_: what you're looking for requires tinkering ... nothing works out of the box for what you've requested
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<ari_stress>
!seen ogra
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<ltspbot>
ari_stress: ogra was last seen in #ltsp 5 days, 2 hours, 7 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <ogra> indeed
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<vagrantc>
johnny: yeah, localapps or running everything locally
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<steph_>
Is there a way to use local power (like soundcard) with ltsp?
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<ari_stress>
waw
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<johnny>
the sound should come locally
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<vagrantc>
steph_: yes.
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<johnny>
for other apps
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<vagrantc>
steph_: but it is not simple.
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<steph_>
I would like to get involved in a project like that. Can you tell me where i can start
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<vagrantc>
steph_: there are two main approaches, install all software into the LTSP chroot, or install some software into the LTSP chroot and use localapps ... the first is fairly simple , the second folks are working on right now
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but both will require some tinkering
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there's not much in the way of documentation
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steph_: you could start off with the kiosk plugin ... ltsp-build-client --kiosk
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<steph_>
...i'm searching fot information...
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<ari_stress>
can we disconnect a user from CLI?
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<johnny>
sure.,. kill their proces :)
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<ari_stress>
nice
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<johnny>
there was something ogra was talking about thi
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tho*
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i forgot was it was called
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