IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 10 July 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 11:57 | <DJUnreal> here's a good one for you...
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| 11:57 | LTSP... will it play nice over a bonded interface?
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| 12:00 | <gvy> lots of installations used it with bonded eth back in 4.2 days
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| 12:00 | like 6xGE
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| 12:01 | * DJUnreal nods... ltsp5? | |
| 12:03 | <DJUnreal> the thought occurs to me right now that one of my bottlenecks, especially once i switch local apps on, is going to be my access speed. The further thought occurs that if I shove an extra pair of gigabit NICs into the master server sharing out the NFS mount, I should be able to use the full extent of my SCSI access time (I'm mirroring, so 320MB/Sec - 2560Mbit - will use 2.5 interfaces happily
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| 12:03 | (plus overheads) )
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| 12:04 | sadly I don't have a disk server capable of 10G networking (my switch has two 10G ports, so if I did, I could in theory use one of those)
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| 12:05 | seems like there's no point me pushing for more than 3 bonded NICs on the back end
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| 12:05 | and similarly, no point striping the OS disks when a single disk at U320 will cap 2.5 NICs anyway
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| 12:05 | especially on a budget of 0
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| 12:08 | <Hyperbyte> DJUnreal, I'm using LTSP with 3 bonded gigabit interfaces.
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| 12:08 | Actually LTSP is virtualized, but the host has 3 bonded gigabits.
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| 12:08 | Before I had a non-virtual LTSP with 2 bonded gigabit interfaces.
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| 12:14 | <gvy> DJUnreal, well sticking a 10Gpbs intel or mellanox card there might be a solution
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| 12:14 | * gvy only used 40G/IB mellanox ones so far | |
| 12:17 | <DJUnreal> gvy: one slight issue with that
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| 12:18 | my deployment is, uhh, 'alternative'
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| 12:18 | and being a deployment for the scouts... we run on a budget of 0
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| 12:18 | so purchasing a 10G intel or mellanox card ain't gonna happen
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| 12:18 | <gvy> ah
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| 12:18 | <DJUnreal> it's also the reason we're stuck on 10-year-old IBM x346 servers
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| 12:18 | with single-core CPUs (albeit two of them)
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| 12:19 | and 5GB RAM in one, 4GB in the other
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| 12:19 | hence being stuck on SCSI for the disk interfacing too
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| 12:19 | my old company were decommissioning a rack of servers
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| 12:20 | and the CEO heard that I was running a scouts internet project
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| 12:20 | told me if i wanted them all i had to do was go fetch them
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| 12:20 | and he told the network engineer to give me the two switches from their test lab that they couldn't redeploy because the company that built them had gone bust
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| 12:21 | <workingcats> DJUnreal, also keep in mind bus/port speeds, e.g. standard PCI can only handle 133mbyte/s total
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| 12:21 | <DJUnreal> hence having a pair of ConSentry CS-4048X-POE switches
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| 12:22 | yeah... 133MB/Sec still equates to 1064Mbit
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| 12:22 | ie >1Gbit
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| 12:22 | what about PCI-X though? any idea?
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| 12:22 | <workingcats> depends on speed
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| 12:22 | ie what kind of pci-x
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| 12:23 | <DJUnreal> actually... i'm not sure what bus the RAID controller sits on in these servers
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| 12:23 | * DJUnreal shall look that up | |
| 12:23 | <gvy> should be PCI-X
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| 12:23 | was 64/66-100-133 usually
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| 12:23 | <workingcats> i would imagine so
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| 12:23 | <DJUnreal> the raid controller is onboard, and has the cache/bbu/memory module in its own custom slot
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| 12:24 | either way though, bonding 2 NICs is going to help (as it'll still be the bottleneck when only running one)
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| 12:24 | and if i'm putting in a dual-port card
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| 12:24 | it makes sense to have done with it and bond all 3
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| 12:25 | (leaving eth0 as the uplink for the internet side)
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| 12:27 | y'know, nowt like saying 'fuck it, we have 3, let's use 'em anyway'... :P
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| 12:27 | overkill would be doing the same on my slave login server
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| 12:27 | <workingcats> if i'm not mistaken 64/66 pci-x can do 533MB/s, but its still a bus, so a lot will depend on whether the data can go straight from storage to NIC, or whether it has to go to CPU/RAM first
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| 12:27 | <gvy> do you have dualport one?
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| 12:27 | <DJUnreal> gvy: dualport is all i have
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| 12:27 | <gvy> just in case, adding 100Mbps for internet might be cheaper
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| 12:27 | ah
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| 12:27 | <DJUnreal> when the servers were decommed
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| 12:27 | half of them had extra dual port PCI-X NICs
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| 12:28 | <gvy> good, gigabit interconnect is going to be way more affordable either btw
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| 12:29 | * DJUnreal has as much ethernet cable as he could possibly need | |
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| 12:31 | <gvy> [severe offtopic] DJUnreal, your scouts might be interested in this ongoing documentary on invasion in Syria: http://www.youtube.com/user/newsanna/videos (English subs tend to appear in few days)
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| 12:36 | * DJUnreal grins, thanks Gremble | |
| 12:36 | <DJUnreal> gvy even
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| 12:36 | ruddy autocomplete
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| 12:36 | <gvy> YW
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| 12:36 | * DJUnreal glares at Gremble for having a name starting with G | |
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| 12:55 | <DJUnreal> oops
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| 12:56 | * DJUnreal thinks he killed him :( | |
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| 13:19 | <workingcats> DJUnreal, well done
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| 13:20 | <DJUnreal> well done for what?
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| 13:20 | killing Gremble?
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| 13:20 | <workingcats> killing in general
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| 13:20 | * DJUnreal isn't sure that's deserving of praise... | |
| 13:22 | <DJUnreal> but thanks all the same
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| 13:25 | <workingcats> it is if youre a cat ;)
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| 14:13 | <jammcq> good morning all
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| 14:15 | <Hyperbyte> Hi jammcq!
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| 14:17 | <jammcq> hey Hyperbyte
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| 14:17 | <jammcq> how's everything going?
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| 14:20 | <gvy> fine, for my definition of fine
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| 15:02 | <DJUnreal> afternoon those of you who joined since i last spoke
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| 21:39 | <DJUnreal> !local_menu
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| 21:39 | <ltsp`> Error: "local_menu" is not a valid command.
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| 21:39 | <DJUnreal> !local_menus
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| 21:39 | <ltsp`> Error: "local_menus" is not a valid command.
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| 21:39 | <DJUnreal> !local
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| 21:39 | <ltsp`> I do not know about 'local', but I do know about these similar topics: 'install-localapp', 'localdev', 'localapps-print', 'RDP-localdev', 'localapps', 'LocaldevCommonGroupWorkaround', 'localxterm', 'local-disks', 'local-boot'
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| 21:39 | <DJUnreal> !localapps
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| 21:39 | <ltsp`> localapps: to access a tutorial on setting up localapps on jaunty, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPLocalAppsJaunty
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| 21:46 | <vagrantc> that might be a bit dated...
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| 21:56 | <DJUnreal> i suspect it is
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| 21:57 | i was trying to work out what the local menus string is in lts.conf
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| 21:57 | i'm assuming something logical like local_menus=true
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| 21:57 | with the correct caps
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| 21:59 | * DJUnreal is installing apps in the chroot atm | |
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| 22:02 | <DJUnreal> got my bonded interfaces working nicely btw
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| 22:08 | <vagrantc> man lts.conf ?
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| 22:08 | (from ltsp-docs package)
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| 22:12 | <DJUnreal> aye
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| 22:25 | so i remember we were talking about HOSTS_00 through HOSTS_99
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| 22:25 | but they aren't in the manpages
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| 22:48 | <vagrantc> DJUnreal: not everything is, true.
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