IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 11 December 2017 (all times are UTC)
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| 11:09 | <ZAJDAN> Hi...now I have tried put into ltsp.conf 'HOSTNAME=name' and watch if the name will be passed to DHCP server, but not...has been not passed
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| 11:13 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: the hostname goes to the client, not to the dhcp server
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| 11:13 | If you want to configure the hostnames in dhcp, put them in the dhcp config file
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| 11:14 | <ZAJDAN> and is somehow possible set for Thin client hostname which could be passed also to DHCPserver?
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| 11:16 | I understand, that the client in the moment when boot has not hostname(of course, system is not ready)
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| 11:19 | <alkisg> Why would you want to PASS it to the dhcp server instead of SET it in the dhcp server config?
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| 11:21 | <ZAJDAN> alkisg: yeas...also possible to set static record for MAC, now I have dynamic IP, each restart of DHCP server will pass new IP
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| 11:22 | and when is dynamic assignment an I cannot see hostname, I do not know who is for the new IP
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| 11:23 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: i don't understand
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| 11:23 | Which dhcp server are you using?
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| 11:25 | <ZAJDAN> at The Monday DHCP server gives for client 192.168.6.10 ...during night is power outage(reboot DHCP server) and after the reboot the client will get 192.168.6.181(for example)...in dhcp leases list I see not hostname, so I cannot recognize who is now the 192.168.6.181
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| 11:26 | and yes...I know I can solve it via StaticAssignment ...this MAC will get anytime this IP
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| 11:27 | but via the hostname I easy recognize who is who
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| 11:29 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: I have to leave now, but write a paragraph with the problem to explain it
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| 11:29 | You haven't even said which dhcp server you're using
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| 11:29 | <ZAJDAN> mikrotik
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| 11:29 | <alkisg> You can assign ip and hostnames with the dhcp server
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| 11:30 | <ZAJDAN> yes via the StaticAssignment
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| 11:30 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 11:30 | Normally you can do it with dynamic too, I don't know about mikrotik
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| 11:30 | <ZAJDAN> but comfortable could be also recognization via Hostname when is used Dynamic
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| 11:31 | <alkisg> Yes, dhcp servers can do that too
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| 11:31 | <ZAJDAN> but ThinClients doesn't pass hostname to DHCP server "from Default"
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| 11:32 | <alkisg> The dhcp server can pass the hostname to the clients
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| 11:32 | You don't need the clients to pass the hostname
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| 11:32 | <ZAJDAN> aha..with this I have not experience
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| 11:33 | <alkisg> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1533#section-3.14
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| 11:33 | 3.14. Host Name Option This option specifies the name of the client.
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| 11:33 | <ZAJDAN> Thnx!
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| 11:35 | <alkisg> np
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| 15:41 | <jeremies> Why playing a video is so slow in firefox and plays well in vlc?
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| 16:04 | <||cw> jeremies: assuming thin clients, vlc is probably using an X accelerated drawing method and firefox isn't
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| 17:02 | <alkisg> jeremies: VLC is using xvideo, which uses 12 bits per pixel, and stretches on the client, saving lots and lots of bandwidth
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| 17:02 | Firefox is using 32 bits per pixel and stretches on the server
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| 17:02 | There are plugins for firefox that can use xvideo
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| 17:02 | !flash
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| 17:02 | <ltsp> flash: Yes, flash sucks. An HD full screen 30 fps video needs 2.5 Gbps bandwidth (1920×1080×4×30)! Make sure you have LDM_DIRECTX=True in your lts.conf file, or if it's just youtube you're after, try some flash replacing plugin like http://linterna-magica.nongnu.org
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| 17:02 | <alkisg> E.g. linterna-magica
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| 17:03 | (I don't know if that still works or not)
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| 17:16 | <||cw> I haven't encountered flash video in a long time, but it's probably the same issue for html5 video
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| 17:16 | just not sure there's such a fix
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| 17:33 | <alkisg> Yeah I don't know if any plugins that "beam" the video to another player still exist in the html5/firefox quantum era
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| 17:56 | <jeremies> ok. thank you all.
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| 17:58 | <alkisg> np
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| 18:09 | <jeremies> alkisg: do you know a remote server that plays the youtube videos properly? Like windows rdp?
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| 18:10 | <alkisg> Windows rdp doesn't play youtube videos properly
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| 18:10 | Except if you're using remotefx
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| 18:11 | <jeremies> But do you know one better than ltsp?
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| 18:12 | <alkisg> No, there is none
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| 18:12 | LTSP is the best there is
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| 18:14 | You can use e.g. kodi to watch youtube videos over ltsp with xvideo, i.e. fast
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| 18:14 | Any player that supports youtube with xvideo
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| 18:14 | <jeremies> Yes, or youtube-dl too
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| 18:14 | <alkisg> Yes. But not generic applications that don't use xvideo, like browsers
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| 18:14 | * vagrantc presumes alkisg is talking about with fat clients | |
| 18:15 | <alkisg> No, with thin clients
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| 18:15 | <vagrantc> oh!
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| 18:15 | <alkisg> With fat clients there's no difference
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| 18:15 | The video is decoded on the client
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| 18:15 | So no bandwidth problems there
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| 18:15 | jeremies: the problem happens on thin clients that don't have enough cpu to decode the video themselves
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| 18:16 | <vagrantc> so firefox renders video differently than a video-specific application?
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| 18:16 | <alkisg> Yes, video players use xvideo
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| 18:16 | Firefox uses generic drawing methods, cairo etc
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| 18:16 | <vagrantc> right
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| 18:21 | <jeremies> And some parameters in LTSP apart from LDM_DIRECTX=True for optimizing the video speed?
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| 18:25 | alkisg: like compressing video before sending or something like that?
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