IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 23 September 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 14:31 | <markit> hi alkisg :) is phantomas ok? is some days I try to find him online without success
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| 14:31 | <alkisg> Hi markit
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| 14:31 | <markit> ok, I could drop him a email
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| 14:31 | * markit lazy | |
| 14:31 | <Phantomas> markit: I'm fine :p
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| 14:31 | <markit> hahaha
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| 14:31 | * markit blind | |
| 14:31 | <alkisg> Yeah he's fine, implementing some portions in sch-scripts and having his school exams at the same time
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| 14:32 | <markit> I always look for him in the gr channel, not here
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| 14:32 | he has changed habbits
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| 14:32 | Phantomas: great multitasking... but remember... culture / university FIRST
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| 14:32 | alkisg: I've had to revert to thin client setup in the elementary schools
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| 14:33 | <alkisg> Why so?
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| 14:33 | <markit> kde has the need to cache a lot of stuff (around 10MB per student), nfs does not work fine
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| 14:33 | and with sshfs I had the strange problem
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| 14:33 | I've to do some more tests
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| 14:34 | because probably if you revert from nfs to sshfs the "symlink stuff" does not work fine in kde
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| 14:34 | or maybe it tryes to follow a wrong / false link
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| 14:34 | I do hope to take the time to write in some KDE list about those problems
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| 14:34 | <alkisg> Maybe... yeah upstream LTSP could use more feedback/patches for KDE
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| 14:35 | <markit> alkisg: mmm how go from normal to upstream LTSP (your repositories) without hurt myself?
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| 14:35 | and why you have that feeling?
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| 14:36 | <alkisg> I mean that if you find out how to fix the sshfs problem with KDE, then you can mail the devs or file a bug, so that fat clients work better on KDE out of the box
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| 14:36 | Because now not many people use KDE with LTSP so there are many things untested
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| 14:36 | You don't need to change repositories to give feedback
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| 14:38 | <markit> my skill in troubleshooting is limited, I need to find a kde dev interested, I've tried in #kde-edu but they don't use ltsp, at least the few I've spoken with
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| 14:38 | maybe writing in some ML can trigger the right person
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| 14:38 | <markit> in any case, now I want to reprodue the situation in my home VM
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| 14:39 | and do some test just to narrow the problem or understand what works and what not
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| 14:42 | <alkisg> markit: you can also file a bug in ltsp, in case some dev wants to have a look at it
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| 14:42 | !ltsp-bug
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| 14:42 | <ltsp> ltsp-bug: To file a bug report for upstream LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
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| 14:42 | <markit> thanks for the suggestion
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| 14:43 | btw, in general if I want to use your repositories in a existing ltsp installation, what should I do? remove all the ltsp related packages means what has "ltsp" in the name or also nbd or dhcp stuff?
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| 14:45 | <alkisg> markit: why would you use them? The added benefit is only ltsp-pnp, and you're not using fat clients
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| 14:45 | <markit> didn't you suggested me to do so, since you backport much more fixes, like for the zip propblem?
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| 14:45 | <alkisg> But yeah if you want to, you'd better purge ltsp, and remove all old ltsp configuration: /etc/ltsp, /etc/nbd-server/*...
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| 14:45 | <markit> and I want to go fat as soon as I fix the kde troubles
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| 14:46 | <alkisg> I adviced using the repository from the start though, so that you avoid all the migration problems ;)
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| 14:46 | But ok if you remove all the old ltsp configuration files you'll be ok
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| 14:55 | <alkisg> !kvm
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| 14:55 | <ltsp> I do not know about 'kvm', but I do know about these similar topics: 'kms'
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| 14:57 | <markit> alkisg: btw, for sshfs, is there a way to have the cryptographic part be the less cpu consuming possible?
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| 14:57 | (or avoid encrypting at all...)
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| 14:57 | my fat clients are P-IV
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| 14:58 | and I want to speed things up the most I can
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| 14:58 | <alkisg> markit: there are some lighter encryption methods, but the ssh guys are avoiding to allow unencrypted connections
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| 14:59 | In general though /home access is light enough to be OK even encrypted, even on P4 machines. Unless you're planning to do video processing... :)
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| 15:00 | !learn kvm as To boot a fake thin client with kvm: kvm -ctrl-grab -net nic -net user,tftp=/var/lib/tftpboot,bootfile=/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 15:00 | <ltsp> The operation succeeded.
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| 15:00 | <alkisg> !learn kvm-vnc as To send a fake client screen to someone so that he can help you, add -vnc technician-ip:5500,reverse to the kvm command line. See also !kvm.
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| 15:00 | <ltsp> The operation succeeded.
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| 15:01 | <alkisg> !socat
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| 15:01 | <ltsp> socat: One way to share a console with a remote person is: [local pc] forward port 5500, run: socat tcp-listen:5500,keepalive=1 stdio,raw,echo=0 [remote pc] socat tcp:server:5500 SYSTEM:"{ sleep 1; xterm -e screen -xRR ra$$; } & exec screen -S ra$$",pty,stderr
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| 15:02 | <alkisg> !learn kvm-socat as To share a fake thin client console screen via text (faster) instead of vnc, see !quiet-splash, !socat, !kvm, and also add -curses to the kvm command line.
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| 15:02 | <ltsp> The operation succeeded.
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| 15:04 | <alkisg> Meh those should probably go in the wiki, and have the bot only send the links to the wiki pages
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| 15:49 | <markit> is there an easy way from bash to know if I've a fat or thin chroot?
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| 17:09 | <alkisg> markit: ls /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/xsessions/*.desktop => if you have a desktop environment entry there, it's a fat chroot
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| 17:09 | <markit> alkisg: thanks a lot
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| 17:10 | I've tried ltsp-info but does not provide such info
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| 17:16 | <vagrantc> (and if you have enough ram)
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| 17:17 | we should probably check for that in ltsp-info
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| 17:17 | <alkisg> Ideally we'll remove LTSP_FATCLIENT completely...
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| 17:17 | And launch pulseaudio per session etc
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| 17:17 | And list all the sessions in ldm, local or not, and let the user choose if he wants a fat session or a remote one
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| 17:18 | <vagrantc> ah.
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| 17:18 | and provide a way to default one way or the other?
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| 17:18 | <alkisg> LDM_SESSION
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| 17:18 | (or, LTSP_SESSION, if we switch to lightdm...)
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| 17:18 | <markit> alkisg: I've seen --force is not more available... was important for rebuild /opt/ltsp/i386/boot/pxelinux.cfg/default... is no more the case or do I have a differnt option/strategy to use?
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| 17:19 | <alkisg> markit: --force was there to reassign nbd ports
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| 17:19 | NBD no longer uses different ports
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| 17:19 | <markit> I see, thanks
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| 17:19 | * vagrantc cheers for NBD improvements | |
| 17:19 | <alkisg> And, pxelinux.cfg/default gets updated every time you run ltsp-update-kernels
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| 17:20 | And I think that ltsp-update-image calls ltsp-update-kernels by default... :)
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| 17:20 | <markit> and I think that if you just think "install ltsp and configure" everyithing is done with latest release... ;P
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| 17:20 | <vagrantc> always use $chroot/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf to set boot parameters
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| 17:20 | alkisg: how's your precise backporting going?
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| 17:21 | <alkisg> vagrantc: fine, it's working now, pushed it to schools here
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| 17:22 | Hehe debian stable... apt-get update after 2 months => 3 mb of updates
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| 17:22 | Precise => 300 mb of updates :D
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| 17:22 | <muppis> Never trusted the Debianway..
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| 17:23 | <vagrantc> that's what they mean by stable- minimal changes.
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| 17:24 | and when maintaining anything other than my personal computer, that's exactly what i'd want, personally.
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| 17:24 | <alkisg> I'd agree; if things were working :D
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| 17:24 | Now that they're not working so much in Precise, I do appreciate any bug fixes...
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| 17:25 | (we can't even type greek out of the box in the live cd and after the installation... lame)
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| 17:25 | <vagrantc> i would rather have things not working predictibly than have unpredictible breakages introduced through unneccesary updates.
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| 17:26 | <vagrantc> with Debian's stable release, once it's release, you know what you're dealing with, more or less.
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| 17:26 | haven't seen that with other distros
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| 17:26 | <alkisg> I think the bottom line is that ubuntu releases get released 1 year before they're ready...
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| 17:27 | * vagrantc has always been suspect of a 6 month release cycle | |
| 17:27 | <vagrantc> sure beeats 6 weeks for firefox, though.
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| 18:38 | <ltspuser_96> HI
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| 18:38 | I need help
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| 18:38 | any one here help me
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| 18:38 | <muppis> Just ask.
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| 19:57 | <ltspuser_96> LTSP, Kiosk mode client,
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| 19:57 | instead to lunch Firefox I wont to lunch a java application,
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| 19:57 | <ltspuser_96> Please where can I do the changes note that the application is running via script ( application.sh start)
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| 19:59 | ...
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| 20:10 | <markit> alkisg: you are not directly interested, but just to share... I've made /var/tmp available to fat clients, so the kde cache is "persistent", but in any case I/O is reduced but still really too high, so logging is still a pain
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| 20:10 | I'm asking someone in #kde-edu if can help or find someone that can help
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| 20:11 | but I've the bad feeling that kde and fat are not possible so far and until someone takes care of the "bug"
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| 20:11 | * markit is great in choosing often the wrong path | |
| 20:16 | <alkisg> markit: ssh with gigabit should be about as fast as local disk
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| 20:16 | So I don't see why it would be slower than local installations for KDE
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| 20:17 | <markit> first, I've 100MB in clients
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| 20:18 | second, the "poor" server hd has 24PC doint I/O, since children login almost at the same time
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| 20:18 | and a lot of write is done, don't understand how and by who
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| 20:18 | since in the server I just see 2 processes doing I/O
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| 20:18 | <alkisg> markit: your server is gigabit, right? Did you check the flow control problem?
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| 20:18 | <markit> NBD-server (read) and sftp-server (write)
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| 20:19 | alkisg: here at home I've just one client connected, and is a lot slow
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| 20:19 | and yes, I tested the flow problem at school long time ago with your help if I recall correctly :)
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| 20:20 | <alkisg> markit: can you do this?
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| 20:20 | apt-get install iftop
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| 20:20 | boot client to ldm
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| 20:20 | sudo iftop -i eth0
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| 20:20 | login client
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| 20:20 | ==> check total bytes transferred
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| 20:21 | So if e.g. kde needs 50 mb for login even with caching and after the first time, ... it's a pain
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| 20:21 | <markit> ok (I've to kiss my children and come back to keyboard asap)
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| 20:22 | * alkisg will leave in a bit, but we can continue this some other day when you have the results... | |
| 20:24 | <markit> alkisg: thanks
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| 20:25 | <ltspuser_96> :)
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| 20:25 | <markit> total is increasing a lot
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| 20:26 | 180MB so far
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| 20:26 | alkisg: is the bottom line of the screen? is scaring
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| 20:27 | <alkisg> markit: when did you run iftop? After ldm was loaded? Or before the client was even booted?
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| 20:27 | <markit> TOTAL: 601MB 72,8Mb 54,9Mb 31,1Mb 49,0Mb
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| 20:27 | ldm loaded
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| 20:27 | I entered the password without typing Enter
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| 20:27 | then I run iftop -i eth1
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| 20:28 | and hit enter in the client
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| 20:29 | <alkisg> And that's a fat client? Wowwww
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| 20:30 | Let me measure a gnome login...
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| 20:31 | <markit> so seems that has read 601MB ad wrote 72 ?
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| 20:31 | mmm no, is "peak"
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| 20:32 | <alkisg> Total is read + write, I think
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| 20:32 | <markit> ok, but I've the RX and TX part
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| 20:32 | so with a cache already present seems that reads 600 and writes 50
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| 20:32 | I can try to delete the /var/tmp/kdecache and retest
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| 20:33 | <alkisg> markit: 35mb
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| 20:33 | <markit> urgh!!!!
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| 20:34 | kde is 20 times "better" ;P
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| 20:34 | <alkisg> See? Caching helps! :P
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| 20:36 | <markit> hehehe... sigh
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| 20:38 | ok, again 652 MB, strange that RX is only 21MB
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| 20:39 | but /var/tmp/kdecache is 100MB
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| 21:51 | I need help... is somebody here????
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| 21:53 | <rac_> hello... i am using edubuntu 12.04.1 and I cant activate the effect with compiz... any help please
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