IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 25 April 2020 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:00 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, family and work going OK. It's all a bit different & strange at this time of course due to all coronavirus measures, but we're managing.
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| 18:59 | <brcisna> hello alkisg
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| 18:59 | <alkisg> Hi brcisna
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| 18:59 | Do this:
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| 18:59 | !vnc-edide
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| 18:59 | <ltspbot> vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
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| 18:59 | <brcisna> alkisg those commands were remoted into server
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| 18:59 | <alkisg> I meant, to run them on the server while remoting to the client
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| 19:00 | Not remoting to server
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| 19:00 | <brcisna> i am using my older working image of client
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| 19:00 | ok let me try that sorry
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| 19:00 | <alkisg> OK, do what the bot wrote above to share your screen with me, so that it's a lot faster
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| 19:00 | Or this, on the server: x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
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| 19:01 | <brcisna> ok i am at client??
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| 19:01 | ok hang on please
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| 19:01 | i will remote to server then run that command
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| 19:02 | <alkisg> Btw, bullseye is a development release, only for developers...
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| 19:02 | Not for users or power users...
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| 19:03 | <brcisna> ok run that command x11vnc
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| 19:04 | <alkisg> OK put the pass there
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| 19:04 | brcisna: does the keyboard work on the client now?
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| 19:04 | <brcisna> alksi,,i am in a workingh image
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| 19:05 | <alkisg> OK, we want to see the broken image
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| 19:05 | <brcisna> i will rename the non working image and reboot client OK?
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| 19:05 | <alkisg> Also, don't login with the same user two times, on the server and on the client
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| 19:05 | You need another user
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| 19:05 | <brcisna> is this alright? & thanks for help
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| 19:05 | <alkisg> No, wait
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| 19:05 | I'll do it
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| 19:05 | <brcisna> ok
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| 19:08 | <alkisg> working: Linux ltsp110 5.4.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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| 19:31 | <brcisna> alksg i am back
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| 19:31 | alkisg i am back
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| 19:32 | i apolgize for being so slow at this
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| 19:32 | i still have no keyboard mouse on client,,i renamed the old image to be able to have a working client
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| 19:41 | <alkisg> brcisna: can't you come to IRC from the server?
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| 19:41 | Do you need to work on this client that we want to reboot?
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| 19:41 | <brcisna> ok alksig let me go to basement sit at server Ok,,,,? give me to minutes i apprciate you efforts..
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| 19:42 | <alkisg> brcisna: VNC to me first
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| 19:42 | remote to the server, x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
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| 19:42 | <brcisna> ok will do---
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| 19:42 | <alkisg> How are you remoting, vnc, rdp, x2go?
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| 19:43 | <brcisna> x2go,,is this OK?
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| 19:43 | <alkisg> That's why I lost the server when we rebooted the client
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| 19:43 | Anyway OK go on
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| 19:43 | <brcisna> ook tell me how?
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| 19:43 | ok
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| 19:46 | <alkisg> brcisna: ok go to basement
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| 19:46 | <brcisna> ok
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| 19:48 | <brcisna> alkisg am in basement at server
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| 19:48 | <alkisg> OK, run vnc from there
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| 19:49 | x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
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| 19:49 | <alkisg> I rebooted the client, let's wait for it to load with the new image
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| 19:49 | *the broken one
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| 19:49 | <brcisna> ok thank you for doing this
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| 19:54 | <alkisg> non-working: Linux ltsp110 5.4.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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| 19:54 | OK it's the same kernel
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| 19:55 | <brcisna> so reboot cleint and try?
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| 19:55 | <vagrantc> at least a few days old install, looks like
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| 19:55 | <alkisg> I think it's because apt wasn't done when you run `ltsp image`
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| 19:55 | brcisna: no, this image is broken as you say
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| 19:55 | No need to reboot it; we need a new one
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| 19:56 | <vagrantc> could have an apt hook that triggers a regeneration of the image in the background...
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| 19:57 | <alkisg> I think brcisna's problem is either that bullseye is broken, or that apt was in a bad state when he ran `ltsp image /`
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| 19:57 | <brcisna> alksig while that is running why is the newer imahe many megabytes less than working client image?
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| 19:57 | <alkisg> brcisna: maybe a kernel was autoremoved
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| 19:57 | You can loop-mount and compare them if you want
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| 19:58 | <brcisna> yes as i said autoremve removes the old outdated kernel i seen this
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| 19:58 | <alkisg> brcisna: btw, why are you running bullseye instead of a stable version? Are you a developer?
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| 19:58 | <brcisna> no just wanted to try bullseye i know should stick with stable,,i apologize
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| 19:59 | <alkisg> For example, if there's an *unrelated* bug in bullseye now, we're just wasting our time trying to find out what's wrong with your ltsp setup :)
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| 19:59 | <brcisna> alkisg when them completes would you look ay image size difference between this and working image?
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| 19:59 | <alkisg> No no it's not worth it
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| 19:59 | Some package was removed, no big deal
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| 20:01 | linux-image-5.3.0-2-amd64:amd64 and others were removed, probably there's the size difference
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| 20:01 | Maybe also removing mutter broke things
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| 20:10 | brcisna: ok go to the client and see if you can type. If you can't, also try pressing this: Ctrl+Alt+F2
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| 20:10 | And see if you get a terminal taht way
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| 20:10 | <brcisna> ok hang on i go upstairs
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| 20:10 | if not qwork i will come back to server,,,
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| 20:11 | <alkisg> ok
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| 20:15 | <brcisna> alkisg when i hit ctl-alt-f2 i see your inputs on client?
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| 20:15 | <alkisg> No, you should see a black terminal screen
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| 20:15 | Were you able to type?
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| 20:16 | <brcisna> after reboot i se3e blinking cursor but could not ypre anything the blinking cursor eventually disappers?
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| 20:16 | no terminal screen
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| 20:16 | <alkisg> Now the client is in the login screen. Did you see the login screen?
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| 20:17 | <brcisna> yes i always see login screen but no keyboad mouse input
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| 20:17 | <alkisg> And if you press ctrl+alt+f2 in the login screen, do you get a black terminal?
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| 20:17 | <brcisna> no no black terminal
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| 20:17 | <alkisg> OK. The client appears to work fine, I can type to the login screen via epoptes
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| 20:17 | And it doesn't sound like a missing module either
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| 20:18 | So it sounds like a bug in bullseye
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| 20:18 | <brcisna> ok you think try another keyboard mosue,,,,but if i boot to hard disk,,of client each works?
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| 20:18 | <alkisg> I think you should stick to debian stable... :)
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| 20:18 | If it happens in debian stable, it's worth troubleshooting more
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| 20:18 | <brcisna> ok thank you alkisg
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| 20:18 | <alkisg> But not for testing; it might be something completely unrelated
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| 20:19 | <brcisna> sorry for taking so much of your time
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| 20:19 | <alkisg> No worries; I leave now, good night :)
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| 20:19 | * alkisg waves | |
| 20:19 | <brcisna> good night
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