IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 14 August 2007 (all times are UTC)
| 00:03 | <sbalneav> Not really, no.
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| 00:03 | Doesn't mean they don't exist, though.
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| 00:04 | <tulga> do you know chip pc?
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| 00:05 | <sbalneav> No, I don't
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| 01:21 | <kimmymulki> help
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| 02:34 | <charlie_> Any new ideas for LTSP
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| 04:44 | <moquist> whiprush_: I did run into some winbind trouble the other day, but I got through it.
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| 06:48 | <Blinny> jammcq: ping
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| 06:48 | <jammcq> pong
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| 06:50 | well...... ?
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| 06:50 | <Blinny> Oop
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| 06:50 | Just returning from a "vacation" -- my 1225e isn't pick up the DHCPOFFER, when others are. What's the procedure for going after this issue?
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| 06:51 | (like, does disklessws have a support line or..?)
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| 06:51 | <jammcq> was it working before ?
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| 06:51 | <Blinny> Yeah.
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| 06:51 | I suspect some surge issue, though it's on a really expensive power block
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| 06:51 | <jammcq> send email to 'support@disklessworkstations.com'
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| 06:51 | <Blinny> I've changed the network cable to the one I'm using now
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| 06:51 | OK, thanks.
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| 06:51 | <jammcq> are you seeing the request ?
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| 06:52 | ie, on the server, in /var/log/daemon, do you see the request from the client?
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| 06:52 | <Blinny> Yeah.
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| 06:52 | <jammcq> has anybody changed anything?
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| 06:52 | <Blinny> There's also a spurious 'connection reset by peer' or something in there too
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| 06:52 | I'm waiting for my assistant to get in, but I dunno what he could have changed.
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| 06:53 | Oh gawd
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| 06:53 | maybe I'm wasting your time
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| 06:53 | this is in the middle of the logs
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| 06:53 | smbd[25345]: read_data: read failure for 4 bytes to client 192.168.169.15. Error = Connection reset by peer
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| 06:53 | <jammcq> heh
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| 06:53 | what's smbd doing in there?
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| 06:53 | <Blinny> (before and after this are the offer/discovers for .15)
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| 06:53 | I have no idea.
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| 06:53 | Maybe weird/malformed UDP things?
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| 06:54 | <jammcq> me neither
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| 06:54 | well, if it's smbd complaining, you must be hitting one of the ports it uses
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| 06:54 | <Blinny> Right
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| 06:54 | <jammcq> makes no sense to me
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| 06:54 | <Blinny> Me neither. I'll try to wireshark it and see just what is going on
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| 06:54 | <jammcq> k
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| 06:55 | <Blinny> (prior to bothering your support@)
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| 06:55 | Thanks
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| 06:55 | <ogra> got a win laptop in your net that has a dhcp server running ?
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| 06:55 | <Blinny> ogra: No.
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| 06:55 | <jammcq> also, if you do send email to 'support', include a copy of your dhcpd.conf file
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| 06:55 | <Blinny> jammcq: Ok.
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| 06:55 | * jammcq has to head in to the office | |
| 06:55 | <jammcq> ciao
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| 06:56 | <Blinny> ogra: Well, I don't know for sure.. like I said, I did just return from vacation. However, if one of these dolts figured out how to install not only a win server but a win dhcpd service, I'll eat my hat.
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| 06:56 | <Blinny> That's akin to me learning to split the atom using the hammer in my shed.
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| 06:56 | <ogra> XP had one included in the early releases iirc
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| 06:56 | not sure if they kept that
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| 06:57 | <Blinny> Huh. Well I'll see. Thanks for the pointer.
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| 06:57 | <ogra> (beta XP was actually the last win i've ever seen to be honest)
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| 07:11 | <Q-FUNK> windows to 2003 virii and counting.
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| 07:38 | <BlackDark> btw is that a way to limit the memory Xorg can use ?
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| 07:39 | when using a big presentation with openoffice, xorg uses a lot of memory
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| 07:39 | the terminal has 128 megs of ram and 32 megs of swap
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| 07:40 | free
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| 07:40 | total used free shared buffers cached
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| 07:40 | Mem: 108868 105708 3160 0 0 9744
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| 07:40 | -/+ buffers/cache: 95964 12904
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| 07:40 | Swap: 32760 32760 0
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| 07:40 | so the terminal is border line to kill xorg
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| 09:48 | * Gadi looks around for a dhcp failover guru.... | |
| 09:48 | * Gadi looks for twins (har har har) | |
| 09:50 | <sbalneav> Morning Gadi
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| 09:51 | <Gadi> morning, sbalneav
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| 10:18 | <ogra> !s
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| 10:18 | <ltspbot`> ogra: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 10:54 | <vagrantc> ogra: so, finally saw ldm2 on a debian install
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| 10:55 | <ogra> did you like it ?
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| 10:57 | <vagrantc> well, i know there's a lot going on under the hood ... but it wasn't particularly impressive :)
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| 10:58 | why are we getting all these sabayon bug reports on launchpad's ltsp ?
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| 11:13 | <vagrantc> gah. i forgot to revert the error/note question.
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| 11:19 | <ogra> vagrantc, do we ?
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| 11:19 | i havent seen any recently
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| 11:20 | avtually https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp looks pretty good imho
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| 11:20 | <vagrantc> ogra: launchpad bug 129421 and 91589 have been getting sent to ltsp-drivers
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| 11:21 | <ogra> hrm
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| 11:23 | <Gadi> hey, do you guys know of a channel for dhcp server?
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| 11:23 | <ogra> well, i assume the user ran ltsp while discovering the bug
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| 11:25 | vagrantc, hmm, someone made ltsp-drivers a team contact for sabayon
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| 11:25 | vagrantc, i guess thats been sbalneav
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| 11:25 | <Gadi> moquist: ping
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| 11:27 | argh
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| 11:28 | * ogra needs to rush out ... | |
| 11:28 | * Gadi needs a drink | |
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| 11:48 | <moquist> Gadi: pongo
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| 11:48 | <Gadi> nm - i just found my problem !! :)
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| 11:48 | well, one of an uncountable set of mental ones
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| 11:48 | <moquist> it's usually the solution that's hard to find ;)
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| 11:48 | <Gadi> wanna drink?
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| 11:48 | :)
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| 11:48 | <moquist> Gadi: heh
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| 11:49 | Gadi: can you tell me what the general area was, in case it's a problem I have, too? :)
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| 11:49 | <Gadi> heh, if you are setting up dhcpd failover, make sure you get the port and peer port right on both sides - or better yet - make 'em the same! ;P
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| 11:50 | <moquist> Mmm. Yes.
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| 11:50 | * moquist nods sagely | |
| 11:50 | <Gadi> yeah, I know you knew that
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| 11:50 | hey, any bad reason to have a 5-minute mclt?
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| 11:50 | instead of an hour
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| 11:51 | 3600 seems pretty darn excessive to me
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| 11:51 | but, I havent had that drink yet
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| 11:51 | * moquist googles mclt | |
| 11:51 | <moquist> "Montgomery County Lands Trust" ? Hmm.
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| 11:51 | <Gadi> i thought you were one of the dhcpd failover wizards
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| 11:52 | * moquist has found it | |
| 11:52 | <moquist> heck no, not a "wizard"
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| 11:52 | we're using it in production, but I've never messed with the mclt or even the ports.
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| 11:53 | I just basically configure two servers enough to know about each other and keep track of each other, but I haven't done any further fine-tuning than that.
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| 11:53 | <Gadi> ah, do you set yours to 3600
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| 11:53 | as in the docs?
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| 11:54 | <moquist> Oh, right. *That* number.
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| 11:54 | * moquist has configured this, like, four times, ever. | |
| 11:55 | <moquist> We're using 1200.
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| 11:55 | I'm sure I copied and pasted it from a webpage telling me how to do this.
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| 11:55 | Or maybe a man page.
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| 11:55 | <Gadi> ok. ill bump mine up from the whimpy 300 that I put
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| 11:55 | :P
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| 11:55 | <moquist> Gadi: have a drink!
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| 11:57 | <Gadi> thanks, moquist
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| 11:57 | ah, while I have you, there is someone I need to intro you to
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| 11:57 | I met someone at a local LUG who got up and was talking all about Software Freedom Day ;)
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| 11:57 | he's the organizer
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| 11:57 | <moquist> cool
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| 11:58 | <Gadi> I asked him if he knew you, and he hadn't heard of you
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| 11:58 | lol
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| 11:58 | <moquist> whoze?
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| 11:58 | <Gadi> that's how you know you've started something huge
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| 11:58 | <moquist> that's "who is he", abbreviated too much.
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| 11:58 | Heh; well, it feels good when things like this happen. :)
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| 11:58 | <Gadi> his name is Joe Apuzzo
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| 11:58 | from Poughkeepsie, NY
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| 11:59 | <moquist> Great; I'll watch for his name this year.
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| 11:59 | <Gadi> cool
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| 11:59 | <moquist> Ah! Poughkeepsie!
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| 11:59 | * moquist has seen The French Connection | |
| 11:59 | <Gadi> if I remember I'll send you both an email intro'ing each to each other
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| 11:59 | * moquist is wondering if Gadi will make the connection | |
| 11:59 | <moquist> Gadi: sure
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| 12:00 | Gadi: I've been less involved this year than I have been in the past, so that's another way he could've slipped through. (I've had nothing to do with divvying up the supplies this time, for example.)
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| 12:00 | * Gadi tries to remember the french connection | |
| 12:00 | <moquist> It's something about picking your feet, or toes, or something.
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| 12:00 | heh, as if not knowing me is "slipping through"...
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| 12:01 | <Gadi> indeed it is in my book
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| 12:01 | brb
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| 12:02 | * moquist chuckles | |
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| 12:14 | <lns> Hey guys just following discussions on the list about ldm2...all that looks really cool! thanks for everything, us admins appreciate it =)
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| 12:37 | <GAWildKat> is there anyone available that can give me some help on ltsp?
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| 12:40 | <vagrantc> GAWildKat: just ask your questions and people will try to help
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| 12:42 | <GAWildKat> I'M trying to run ltsp on a p233 that has DSL installed, so far the only way I can login to my account on my server is through ssh on that machine. everything has been installed and reinstalled regarding ltsp and it still doesn't work
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| 12:48 | <monteslu> moquist, still there?
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| 12:49 | wondering if you've been able to get local devices working with users connected to an smbldap server
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| 12:49 | my problem right now is that group IDs don't sync up
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| 12:49 | <moquist> monteslu: yeah, that's what we run
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| 12:50 | gotta sync 'em
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| 12:50 | <monteslu> how?
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| 12:50 | * moquist tries to remember | |
| 12:50 | <monteslu> i need a fuse and admin group with the same ids as on the ltsp server
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| 12:51 | fuse is something like 137 on ltsp, but when i add it to smbldap it goes to 10002
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| 12:51 | <moquist> I created an LDAP group named "fuse" with id 115
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| 12:51 | <monteslu> can you specify the id when creating the group?
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| 12:56 | <moquist> yep
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| 12:58 | <monteslu> any chance I can bug you for the syntax? my googling yesterday didn't provide much in the way of smbldap command parameters
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| 12:59 | i did figure out how to put someone in a named group though :)
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| 12:59 | or did you do the group creation through the webmin interface?
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| 13:18 | <moquist> monteslu: nah, used smbldap-groupadd
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| 13:20 | <monteslu> looks like -g is what I need
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| 13:21 | did that work for admin as well for you?
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| 13:21 | i don't like having the names in sudoers
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| 13:38 | <monteslu> sbalneav, a day in and no calls from the computer teacher yet. This edubuntu might just work out.
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| 13:38 | <sbalneav> Good to hear
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| 14:25 | <lns> Anyone know what the gconf key is to disable fade-to-black upon logout?
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| 15:23 | <Gadi> ogra: ping
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| 15:26 | <Gadi> where is everybody? Is somebody handing out free beer in another channel?
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| 15:29 | <toonix> J
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| 15:29 | U
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| 15:29 | oops, sorry
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| 15:32 | <lns> I'm idling
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| 15:32 | ;)
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| 15:52 | <Guaraldo> Gadi: Hi...
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| 16:21 | <Gadi> Guaraldo: hey
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| 18:04 | <estong_> hi! my server has an amd64 cpu. can i use an i386 or an amd for a workstation?
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| 18:04 | how do i install the i386 and amd files? can somebody point me to a howto or some documentation pls.
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| 18:07 | <lns> estong_, you can use either one
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| 18:07 | amd64 dists pose some problems with things like firefox flash/java plugins
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| 18:08 | but if it's worth working with to you, all the other apps are compiled for 64-bit so it would benefit in speed
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| 18:09 | <estong_> u mean i can use debian i386 or amd to install as server OS?
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| 18:09 | <lns> yes
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| 18:09 | amd 64bit cpus should always be 32-bit backward compatible
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| 18:10 | <estong_> thanks! brb.
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| 20:29 | <DeathRaven> I need help with trying to log in to my server remotely using LTSP5. I'm currently logged directly into the server, I can use SSH to log into my User Account remotely, but LTSP would not permit me to use either the graphical login on F7 nor the console based login on F1. I'm not sure what settings I'm missing in LTSP to get the account to work with it.
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| 20:31 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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| 20:33 | <DeathRaven> Evening
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| 20:48 | <DeathRaven> Anybody else alive in here?
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| 21:53 | <sbalneav> !seen ogra
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| 21:53 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: ogra was last seen in #ltsp 10 hours, 25 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: * ogra needs to rush out ...
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| 22:07 | <jammcq> hey homies
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| 22:07 | <sbalneav> Hey jammcq
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| 23:14 | <RyanRyan52> I have a few old computers and a really nice new computer and I'm thinking about putting ltsp on my new computer. One thing that I'm wondering about is that my new computer has a really good graphics card and my other computers have really bad graphics cards. I do 3D programming and modeling so is there any way I could make it do the graphics processing on the ltsp server?
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| 23:15 | <jammcq> nope
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| 23:15 | the graphics card on the server has NOTHING to do with the graphics displayed on the thin clients
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| 23:15 | <RyanRyan52> okay, thanks
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