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03:12 | <smurf> hi - looking to resolve an issue...update / upgrade LTSP on the client (chroot), and get an error...
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03:12 | error encountered while processing cgroup-lite
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03:12 | anyone have any ideas?
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03:13 | Running on Ubuntu LTS 12.0.4.3
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04:17 | <alkisg> other_ot1er_joe: CLIENT_ENV="var=value"
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09:24 | <alkisg> !learn client-list as `to get a list of all nbd-clients (which sometimes is the same as ltsp clients), run: netstat -tn | sed -n 's/.*:10809 *\([0-9.]*\):.*/\1/p' | sort -Vu`
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09:24 | <ltsp> The operation succeeded.
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09:24 | <alkisg> !client-list
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09:24 | <ltsp> client-list: to get a list of all nbd-clients (which sometimes is the same as ltsp clients), run: netstat -tn | sed -n 's/.*:10809 *\([0-9.]*\):.*//p' | sort -Vu
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09:25 | <alkisg> !client-list
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09:25 | <ltsp> client-list: to get a list of all nbd-clients (which sometimes is the same as ltsp clients), run: netstat -tn | sed -n 's/.*:10809 *\([0-9.]*\):.*/\1/p' | sort -Vu
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11:58 | <JustSomeGuy> hi i have a problem with my ltsp installation under ubuntu 12.04. i installed the ltsp-server-standalone package and added ARCH=i386 and FAT_CLIENT_DESKTOPS="ubuntu-desktop" to ltsp-build-client.conf to make a fat client and changed the dhcpd config to use the 192.168.4.0 subnet. i then rebooted and build the client with ltsp-build-client. now when i boot the client it workes fine until the login screen. i added the user test to th
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11:58 | e ltsp image and am trying to login with the user but i just get "no answer from server, restart" after that the login manager restarts and i am not logged in. when i login via the tty it workes fine. any thoughts?
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13:38 | <markit> anyone can help (a friend of mine) troubleshooting guest (fat) stay still at busybox initramfs after a system update?
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14:03 | <JustSomeGuy> never mind i had public key only enabled for the sshd on the ltsp server which wont work with the password autentification the client tries
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14:08 | <markit> hi alkisg :) a friend of mine has upgraded teh server and chroot, but now fat clients are stuck in "busybox initramfs" error after ubuntu boot screen, any idea?
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14:17 | <alkisg> markit: upgraded from what to what?
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14:18 | <markit> now he is going to that school, 20 min to arrive. As far as I've understood, simply something like "aptitude full-upgrade" inside a 12.04-32 or 64 bit
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14:19 | also strange he says to have a "/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/ltsp" file that I've not (besides the 'default' one)
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14:19 | <alkisg> markit: was he using the greek schools ppa?
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14:19 | <markit> yes
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14:19 | <alkisg> $ ls /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/
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14:19 | default ltsp ltsp-NBD ltsp-versions-AOE ltsp-versions-NFS
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14:19 | default.original ltsp-AOE ltsp-NFS ltsp-versions-NBD memtest
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14:20 | ltsp-pnp, or plain fat chroot?
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14:20 | <markit> plain fat root
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14:20 | ah, mine (not yet upgraded) is
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14:21 | root@gs1204:~# ls /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/
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14:21 | default default_ORIGINALE ltsp-NBD ltsp-NFS ltsp-versions-NBD ltsp-versions-NFS memtest
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14:22 | <alkisg> Yup, that new "ltsp" file replaces the "default" file, which now becomes a symlink
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14:22 | <markit> will the upgrade process bring me to a config like yours, or I should purge packages and config and recreate?
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14:22 | <alkisg> Just update
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14:22 | <markit> "now" means from 5.4 o 5.5 I guess
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14:22 | <alkisg> Yup
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14:22 | <markit> I've to update my notes too then, lol
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14:23 | * markit has a moving targhet | |
14:23 | <alkisg> The change was done in order to allow someone to edit the "default" file
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14:23 | Without it being overwritten in upgrades
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14:23 | And there are new symlinks now, e.g. ltsp-generic, ltsp-generic-pae etc
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14:24 | So it's much easier to create and maintain a custom default file, or per-client 01-mac-address files
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14:24 | <markit> mm his "default" (now he is at school) is not a symlink I see
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14:25 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 196 gen 10 13:14 default
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14:25 | <alkisg> tell him to vnc to me, x11vnc -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
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14:28 | <markit> ok
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14:28 | as root (sudo) or simple user?
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14:30 | <alkisg> simple user
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14:30 | (or from the epoptes remote assistance dialog..)
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14:31 | <markit> btw, after upgrade I've the same files
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14:31 | # ls /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/
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14:31 | default default_ORIGINALE ltsp-NBD ltsp-NFS ltsp-versions-NBD ltsp-versions-NFS memtest
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14:32 | but don't want to distract you
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14:32 | <alkisg> After updating the chroot AND running ltsp-update-image?
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14:33 | <markit> ehm, no, I proceed then
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14:34 | he is trying through epoptes now
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14:35 | mmm says is not going through, he retries with x11vnc -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
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14:36 | <alkisg> markit: can you try it from your current pc to verify that it works?
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14:36 | He does have internet connection, right?
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14:36 | <markit> yep, he is in chat (gmail chat) right now with me
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14:37 | seenm that he can't resolve your hostname, let me try
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14:37 | <alkisg> 5.54.158.139
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14:39 | <markit> he says "no way", let ME try
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14:40 | * markit installing x11vnc | |
14:40 | <alkisg> Yup I see you
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14:41 | <markit> yep
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14:41 | <alkisg> Wow that's a lot of konsole tabs there :D
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14:42 | <markit> really :) wondering what's wrong with him
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14:43 | I've closed the connection and told him to try again
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14:43 | but we don't want to waste too much of your time
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14:44 | <alkisg> markit: he closed the vnc session
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14:45 | The problem is the "default" file, and I think the specific problem is that he doesn't have the ppa in the chroot
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14:45 | But I didn't get a chance to verify that, he closed vnc
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14:46 | <markit> x11vnc on his side is at line "10/01/2014 15:48:23 called initialize_xfixes()"
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14:47 | if you want you can have ssh direct access
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14:48 | he tries vnc again for the last time
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14:48 | <alkisg> markit: he connected to me, yes that was the problem
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14:48 | He only had the ppa in the server, not in the chroot
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14:49 | But he can't, or won't, enter his sudo -i password for me to add the ppa to his chroot...
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14:49 | <markit> maybe he did not realized his intervention was requred
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14:49 | he trusts you blindly, be sure :)
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14:49 | <alkisg> I think he's typing something.. .I don't know
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14:49 | If you can, ask him what is going wrong
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14:50 | <markit> had been distracted by someone, and did not noticed you were waiting his input
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14:53 | unfortunately I've to run to take my children from sky
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14:53 | alkisg: in any case, thanks a lot lot lot for your help
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14:54 | maybe you can chat with him someway through vnc if needed
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14:54 | later I will try the upgrade of my test VM too
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14:54 | (yep, I've greek ppa in chroot ;P)
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14:56 | <alkisg> markit:
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14:56 | he has dns issues, i'll leave those for you as I don't know how you want to solve them
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14:56 | I'll do the chroot part
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15:16 | <alkisg> dav: you can chat here
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15:16 | <dav> yes
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15:16 | <alkisg> What is the problem with shutdown? I didn't realize what it is...
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15:17 | <Guest33409> when the client shutdown a splash screen appears, blocked
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15:17 | <alkisg> And it stays there, and does not shutdown?
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15:17 | <Guest33409> exactly
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15:18 | <alkisg> So fat23 and fat24 now didn't shut off?
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15:19 | <Guest33409> they return squashfs error on shutdown now
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15:19 | <alkisg> I see... did they do that before the upgrade?
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15:19 | <Guest33409> no
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15:19 | <alkisg> OK, let me try something
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15:21 | Did fat21 shut down?
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15:21 | <Guest33409> yes
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15:21 | <alkisg> OK that's really weird :)
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15:21 | Can you boot them again, to verify it?
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15:22 | <Guest33409> done
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15:24 | <alkisg> Did fat23 and fat24 shut down?
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15:25 | <Guest33409> yes it works
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15:25 | <alkisg> Last one, did fat21 and fat22 shut down?
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15:25 | <Guest33409> no, 21 & 22 with squashfs error
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15:25 | <alkisg> Haha that's crazy
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15:26 | The fix caused a problem! :)
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15:26 | OK let me fix the fix for you...
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15:26 | <Guest33409> ok
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15:29 | <alkisg> Dav, boot/reboot all clients
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15:29 | To see if they're fixed now
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15:31 | <Guest33409> it works
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15:31 | <alkisg> Nice!
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15:32 | <Guest33409> thanks a lot alkisg
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15:32 | <alkisg> You're welcome
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15:34 | <Guest13519> perfect, now I configure fatclient with other software we need here
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15:36 | <Guest33409> can i shutdown all clients?
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16:24 | <ncom0pl> Hello. I'm new to LTSP but I've just recently bought 10 HP T5520 thin clients and I'm having some issues with setting it up on my already running ubuntu server 12.04.3 LTS.
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16:27 | <ncom0pl> I'd appreciate any help. I had a headless ubuntu server machine(didn't need GUI/desktop environment) running for some time, and now I'm trying to incorporate LTSP server into it.
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16:28 | <other_ot1er_joe> whats the problem?
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16:28 | <ncom0pl> Some things have been a little confusing to me. Do I have to install a desktop environment itself on the machine, or does it install with the LTSP package?
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16:28 | So far I've installed ltsp-server-standalone.
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16:29 | <other_ot1er_joe> you'll need to install a gui on the server
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16:29 | <ncom0pl> The thin client boot's, I get to the LDM login screen, but when I try to login it "Verifies the password", then goes to black screen for a sec, and then sertarts the login screen again.
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16:29 | <other_ot1er_joe> the clients will use X11 forwarding to run that gui
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16:30 | !manual
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16:30 | <ltsp> manual: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ltsp/files/Docs-Admin-Guide/LTSPManual.pdf/download
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16:30 | <other_ot1er_joe> have a read over this
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16:30 | it should help you out quite a bit
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16:30 | the man page for lts.conf is also quite helpful
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16:31 | if you've got the clients booting and LDM showing up, you're well on your way. The hard part is over.
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16:31 | <ncom0pl> Okay, thanks, I'll have a read. I guess it's okay to install some other DE like MATE, Xfce or even LXDE rather than the default Unity for ubuntu?
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16:32 | <other_ot1er_joe> sure
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16:32 | I run fat clients with LXDE myself
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16:33 | <ncom0pl> I'm wondering if it will eun on those thin clients anyway, as they have just 128MB of RAM.
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16:36 | WEll, the manual says it's enough so I'm crossing fingers.
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17:10 | <ncom0pl> I installed MATE and added LDM_SESSION="mate-session"
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17:10 | to lts.conf
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17:10 | but it still just restarts the logins screen on the thin client
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17:12 | when I try to run "mate-session" on the server locally(with a monitor plugged in, so basically just like a regular desktop), i get "** (mate-session:2721): WARNING **: Cannot open display:"
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18:54 | <ncom0pl> I managed to set up MATE and LXDE to work locally on the server, but when trying to log in via thin client it just restarts the LDM... Any ineas anyone?
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18:55 | <alkisg> Which distro/version?
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18:55 | <ncom0pl> In the ldm.log it says "starting X session", and the next second it goes "X session ended".
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18:55 | Ubuntu Server 12.04.3
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18:55 | <alkisg> !screen_02
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18:55 | <ltsp> screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
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18:55 | <alkisg> From there, try: ssh user@server
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18:55 | Replace user with an existing username, leave server exactly as it is, don't replace it with anything
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18:57 | <ncom0pl> Okay, it connewcted through ssh and let me log in.
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18:57 | <alkisg> Did you see any warning about "trusting server" etc?
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18:58 | <ncom0pl> Nope, nothing, just asked for pass and logged in.
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18:58 | <alkisg> OK. Server side: tail -F /var/log/auth.log
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18:58 | Client side, alt+ctrl+f7, try to login in ldm
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18:58 | Did the authentication try succeed?
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19:01 | <ncom0pl> Yeah, but then it goes "Jan 10 19:58:16 balin sshd[6909]: error: Failed to allocate internet-domain X11 display socket." in the auth.log.
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19:01 | <alkisg> Hmm google that, it might mean that your sshd disallows ssh -X,
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19:02 | and in the meantime, you can try with [Default] LDM_DIRECTX=True in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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19:03 | <ncom0pl> Do I have to reboot the thin client after modifying lts.conf?
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19:03 | <alkisg> No
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19:03 | Ah sorry
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19:03 | Yes, the client yes, the server no
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19:03 | :)
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19:04 | <ncom0pl> K, thanks :).
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19:07 | No change with LDM_DIRECTX=True, googling the ssh issue.
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19:08 | <alkisg> From screen_02=shell, does `getltscfg -a` return the LDM_DIRECTX line?
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19:08 | I.e. did the configuration change actually reach the client?
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19:09 | <ncom0pl> Yes it does.
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19:10 | <alkisg> OK, check google, e.g. "either put "AddressFamily inet" in the sshd_conf "...
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19:12 | <ncom0pl> MAGIC!
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19:12 | Yup, the "AddressFamily inet" did the trick
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19:13 | Thank You so much, I really struggled with it.
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19:13 | Wouldn't think it was an ssh issue.
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19:14 | <alkisg> You're welcome
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19:15 | <ncom0pl> Actually I was checking it on a laptop via PXE. Now let's chceck how it goes with the actual thin client with 128MB RAM onboard...
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19:16 | <alkisg> With 128 mb ram you'd better use some tricks... like disabling sound, localdev, localapps etc
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19:17 | And you might want to use a newer ltsp version which saves some more ram, replacing cdpinger with udev rules etc etc
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19:17 | !greek-schools-ppa
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19:17 | <ltsp> greek-schools-ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/ppa/ supports LTS Ubuntu releases with newer LTSP versions, bug fixes etc
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19:18 | <ncom0pl> I was wondering if I could set up the thin client to use a swap partition.
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19:18 | <ncom0pl> SWAP is not RAM, but it's better than running out of RAM...
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19:19 | <alkisg> It should automatically use NBD_SWAP from the server
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19:19 | Check `free` on the client screen_02
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19:19 | <ncom0pl> Yeah, I did, and it says 0 swap.
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19:19 | <alkisg> Do you have an /etc/nbd-server/conf.d/swap.conf file on the server?
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19:20 | <ncom0pl> Nope, no such file.
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19:22 | <alkisg> Try this, I don't remember if it's there in 12.04 vanilla: sudo ltsp-config nbd-server
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19:22 | And check if it created the file
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19:24 | <ncom0pl> It's not there, ltsp-config: command not found.
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19:29 | The 128MB RAM thin client freezes when logging in, probably due to low RAM.
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19:30 | It has less than 2500K RAM before logging in...
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19:30 | free RAM*
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19:32 | <alkisg> I'd advice you to add that ppa to your server + chroot sources.list...
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19:32 | <ncom0pl> Yep, I'll try to do taht now.
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19:32 | <alkisg> If you don't want to, I think there's a wiki page that says how to manually create swap.conf
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19:38 | <ncom0pl> Do I have to ltsp-update-image after upgrading from the ppa?
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19:42 | <alkisg> Yes
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19:42 | You need to add it to your sources both in the server and in the chroot
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19:46 | <ncom0pl> Oh, ok, I only added it in the server.
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19:47 | Might be a newbie question, but how do I do that in the chroot? And do I have to run some other commands as well after adding in chroot?
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20:04 | <alkisg> ncom0pl: sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
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20:04 | add-apt-repository ppa:ts.sch.gr
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20:04 | apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
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20:04 | exit; ltsp-update-image
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20:26 | <ncom0pl> alkisg: Thanks again. Do I do this before or after image update?
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20:29 | <ncom0pl> alkisg: Okay, sorry for dumb question, just noticed the ltsp-update-image command at the end after exititg...
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21:13 | <Jeff0411> Greetings All!
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21:15 | We have just implemented a LTSP server install on LinuxMint 15; problem is I cannot remote to it to assist. All of the clients are working, but I cannot get to the server from the "public" side of my LAN. Any ideas?
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21:19 | <||cw> "get to" in what way? ssh?
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21:20 | what have you setup to allow remote assistance?
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21:22 | <Jeff0411> Either SSH or VNC; neither work.
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21:23 | I'm not sure where to go to set SSH up to allow access from the "public" side NIC.
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