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Channel log from 28 September 2016 (all times are UTC)
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| 05:16 | <alkisg> !ltsp-bug
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| 05:16 | <ltsp`> ltsp-bug: To file a bug report for upstream LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
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| 05:45 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg
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| 05:45 | Hi!
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| 05:51 | <alkisg> Hey Hyperbyte
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| 05:52 | Hyperbyte: wrt stability, since the greek schools support team doesn't have funding currently (hoping it will in a few months), we're still using ubuntu 12.04 here
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| 05:54 | The bugs in *ubuntu* (not in ltsp) in 14.04 and 16.04 were too many to be deployed in schools. We solved many dozens of such bugs, but we don't consider it production ready yet.
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| 05:57 | <Hyperbyte> Hrm....
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| 05:57 | So you're saying, don't use 16.04?
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| 05:58 | <alkisg> I'm using 16.04 daily, but I've only deployed it to 5-10 schools, and many of them asked me to roll it back to 12.04
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| 05:58 | If I was to select between 16.04 and 14.04, I would select 16.04
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| 05:58 | <Hyperbyte> Why have they asked you to roll back?
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| 05:59 | <alkisg> Because of the bugs I've mentioned
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| 05:59 | <Hyperbyte> I assume it's bugs with the specific software you're using and certain libraries, etc?
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| 05:59 | <alkisg> Gotta go, bbl!
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| 05:59 | General ubuntu bugs
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| 05:59 | Not with specific software
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| 05:59 | <Hyperbyte> Hm, okay
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| 05:59 | <alkisg> systemd, sshfs, ...
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| 05:59 | <Hyperbyte> Ok, thanks
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| 05:59 | We'll speak later, also about your issue with the LTSP site
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| 05:59 | <muppis_> Morning. Was there any trick between fat and thin clients log in? Using 14.04... >)
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| 06:00 | Haven't used fats for a while and now build one. Drops back to ldm.
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| 06:28 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: I fixed the issue with the site ;)
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| 06:28 | muppis: no tricks that I know of
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| 06:32 | <muppis> alkisg, then there's something wrong in set up. :(
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| 06:32 | <alkisg> Probably...
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| 10:07 | <xekhz> good fay
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| 10:07 | day
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| 10:13 | <alkisg> good bay. hay. lay. may. pay. ray. say. way.
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| 10:13 | ...I think english men covered most of the possible words with 3 letters... :D
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| 10:14 | <highvolt1ge> aye
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| 11:05 | <xekhz> how can i get thinclient to automount USB=
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| 11:05 | ?
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| 13:16 | <etino> Hi,
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| 13:16 | I've installed an LTSP server with ubuntu 12.04 on virtualbox environment.
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| 13:18 | The "virtual" thinclient start regulary, but when I log in, I get the message error "Failed to load session "ubuntu""
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| 13:19 | On the server syslog I get an error about x-session-manager (unable to find default provider 'metacity' and more)
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| 13:21 | There is here someone who can help me to give some info about this issue?
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| 13:21 | Thank in advance :-)
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| 13:30 | <alkisg> etino: are you using ltsp-pnp?
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| 13:31 | !ltsp-pnp
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| 13:31 | <ltsp> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 13:35 | <etino> Hi @alkisg, no. I'm new on LTSP project and I've used ltsp-server-standalone package
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| 13:36 | <alkisg> etino: 12.04 is quite old and has known issues, you should at least be using the greek schools ppa from that guide
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| 13:36 | !greek-schools-ppa
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| 13:36 | <ltsp> greek-schools-ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/ppa/ supports LTS Ubuntu releases with newer LTSP versions, bug fixes etc
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| 13:36 | <alkisg> E.g. compositing desktop like ubuntu did not work on 12.04 without the ppa
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| 13:36 | <alkisg> In general, new users should start with the ltsp-pnp guide *unless* it doesn't fit their needs
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| 13:38 | <etino> @alkisg great info. Which version of ubuntu is recommended?
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| 13:39 | <alkisg> etino: well... normally 16.04, while 12.04 is only for super stability, it's not maintained by ubuntu anymore except for some server parts only
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| 13:42 | <alkisg> etino, how many clients and what client specs, cpu/ram?
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| 13:42 | <etino_> @alkisg well, I've also an 16.04 yet installed with ltsp-server-standalone, I'will try to convert it
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| 13:42 | <alkisg> If the clients are already booting with the non-pnp installation, keep it
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| 13:43 | <etino_> For now is a test. I would install an LTSP network for 4/5 client inside a warehouse farm....
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| 13:43 | I don't have phisical client at the moment, I' working on virtual environment (virtualbox)
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| 13:44 | <alkisg> Are you going to do desktop or server-related work on the clients?
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| 13:44 | <etino_> I would create a thin client network with tn5250 client emulation terminal
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| 13:45 | <alkisg> So the end users will only have a terminal emulation?
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| 13:45 | <etino_> Yes
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| 13:45 | <alkisg> OK then you don't need ltsp-pnp, it targets desktop users more
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| 13:45 | <etino_> eventually a browser for intranet network...
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| 13:46 | but it could be not necessary... (browser)
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| 13:46 | Which kind of installation do you suggest in this case?
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| 14:58 | <etino_> @alkisg I've solved the issue. On the server there's not installed the package gnome-core. With an apt-get install gnome-core the issue has been resolved. However thank you for your support.
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| 19:26 | <alkisg> etino_, ubuntu unity doesn't use gnome-core
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| 20:08 | <Chap_> How do I add text to the ldm greeter page (beyond editing bg.png in the theme)?
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| 20:12 | * vagrantc forgets if that's possible | |
| 20:14 | <Chap_> I see some source hacks. Trying for a typical 'Use of this system means you accept the 50-page EULA'
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| 20:14 | <vagrantc> it seems infeasible to cram a 50-page EULA into it
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| 20:15 | Chap_: you could drop an accept/cancel popup in /etc/X11/Xsession.d
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| 20:16 | * Chap_ wonders if that play nicely with screensaver | |
| 20:16 | <vagrantc> you can put it in before the session manager kicks in
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| 20:16 | well, rather, it won't allow the screensaver to kick in
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| 20:17 | <Chap_> Dig it. So before 55gnome-session_gnomerc
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| 20:18 | <vagrantc> put it where it works :)
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| 20:18 | <Chap_> heh
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| 20:18 | perhaps editing bg.png is the best method - I'm not looking to add another clickstep, just a 'Remember you signed something already' reminder
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| 20:19 | <vagrantc> ah.
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| 20:21 | <Chap_> And: vagrantc ogra_ jammcq2 stgraber it's wonderful to come into #ltsp ... 8? 10? years after my first login, and see the same friendly helpful folks. Thank you each (and everyone I don't recognize) for all you do.
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| 20:26 | <vagrantc> Chap_: thanks!
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| 20:26 | <vagrantc> things have been a little slow the last few years
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| 20:26 | <Chap__> Oh alkisg forgot you too
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| 20:27 | Yeah, but there are plenty of folks in the wild using the results of your efforts.
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| 20:28 | <vagrantc> good to know
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| 20:28 | if you care to, add yourself to the worldmap:
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| 20:28 | !worldmap | echo Chap__
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| 20:28 | <ltsp> Chap__ worldmap: If you're using LTSP, please let the world know and share your story at http://www.ltsp.org/stories/ Your can add a nice pin to our world map at your location, plus your setup will count towards the global LTSP usage statistics.
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| 20:31 | <Chap__> http://www.ltsp.org/stories/viewstory/?story_id=346&secret=af9e26 18 Mar 2013
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| 20:31 | Running LTSP since: 2004
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| 20:35 | <vagrantc> Chap__: thanks for sharing!
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| 20:36 | <razielle_tzu> i'll add my computer club when i finally get around to converting to ltsp-pnp from the standard/chroot version
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| 20:47 | <Chap__> Cheers
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| 23:36 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, I got 16.04 working fine. :-)
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| 23:38 | Well actually sometimes clients don't boot properly, without much error messages, but it seems to kinda get stuck during or after mounting nbd... no errors on the server side. I think it's either a memory issue or network issue. Sessions work fine though, so I've decided they don't shutdown the clients for now.
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