IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 30 November 2006 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:26 | <kgoetz> hi all. correct me if i'm wrong - does lts.conf go in the chroot the client uses, or the server /etc?
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| 01:27 | i get an error about teh line "LOCAL_STORAGE = Y$
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| 01:27 | " in my lts.conf
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| 01:31 | np. in the chroot.
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| 01:32 | probably pebkac... lets see anyway
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| 01:34 | ah. didnt have a [macaddress] bit
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| 01:35 | are Y and TRUE interchangeable in the config file?
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| 01:36 | brb, testing client.
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| 01:39 | back
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| 02:01 | * kgoetz pokes local devices. bad things | |
| 02:26 | <str4nd> hmm, wiki helps you hopefully...
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| 02:28 | <kgoetz> yes, they have :). tomorrow i'll try and workout why i'm getting 'error connecting'
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| 02:28 | <str4nd> local storages are "not" support .. :)
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| 02:29 | <kgoetz> i cant get usb drives going :( got sound (woot), but not usb
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| 02:29 | * kgoetz needs cd and usb working :( | |
| 02:31 | <kgoetz> bbl. :) going out
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| 02:33 | <str4nd> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LocalMedia
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| 02:35 | sound != local medias :p
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| 02:35 | sound == esd <3
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| 02:48 | <yanu> localdev works with ubuntu and ltsp5
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| 02:48 | you need to use ldm als login-deskop-manager
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| 02:48 | <str4nd> ltsp5 o_O
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| 02:49 | yeah, i test it someda
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| 02:49 | *someday
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| 02:49 | <yanu> got to go
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| 02:50 | <str4nd> brb, need to learn english
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| 02:57 | dodih
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| 06:01 | <blablaman> I reckon I followed the proper installation guide. But tftp server does not respond to requests. DHCP serve IP address but no tftp any pointers
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| 06:06 | <cliebow> be sure it is running..netstat -anp|grep ":69"
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| 06:06 | which tftp server?
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| 06:06 | in which distro?
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| 06:07 | <blablaman> it is running - just verified
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| 06:07 | <cliebow> then check -s argument in /etc/inetd.conf or perhaps /etc/xinetd.d/tftp
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| 06:07 | <blablaman> I'm running k12ltsp on fedora5
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| 06:07 | <cliebow> so the latter
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| 06:08 | prob -s /tftpboot
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| 06:08 | so that is prepended to the filename statment in dhcpd.conf
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| 06:08 | Also be sure you have a next-server statement
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| 06:09 | <blablaman> server_args = -s /tftpboot
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| 06:09 | <cliebow> grep filename /etc/dhcpd.conf
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| 06:13 | <blablaman> next-server was pointing to default setting.
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| 06:14 | <cliebow> is that good?
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| 06:15 | <blablaman> I've only 1 nic and am using different subnet. What is the issue with the -s argument to tftp
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| 06:20 | <cliebow> grep filename /etc/dhcpd.conf..dhould be like /lts/-->
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| 06:20 | next-server must point to where your tftp is running
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| 06:21 | if dhcp daemon >3.9.3
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| 06:21 | 3.0.3
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| 06:23 | i ama off to school..bbiab
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| 06:23 | <blablaman> cheers
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| 06:24 | <cliebow> ill look in from there...
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| 06:24 | <blablaman> ta
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| 06:32 | <Empiric> hi
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| 06:32 | i have done ubuntu
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| 06:33 | i have installed ltsp that shiped with ubuntu
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| 06:33 | its not ppicking tftp
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| 06:33 | why
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| 06:38 | any idea
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| 06:43 | helo
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| 06:43 | any idea
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| 06:45 | <yanu> for ubuntu-edgy: next-server (in /etc/tftp/dhcpd.conf) must point to where your tftp is running
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| 06:57 | <ogra> you dont need to set next-server as long as the server is the same machine as the dhcp server
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| 06:58 | (in any ubuntu dhcp that is)
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| 07:02 | <yanu> ogra: it took me a day to figure out that if ltsp is installed, that dhcpd.conf is located in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf, why is that?
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| 07:03 | <ogra> because we store all overriding config files for ltsp in there, in edgy syslog was added for example ...
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| 07:04 | that way you dont need to touch the default config file and dont mess with users ecisting setups ...
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| 07:05 | <yanu> ach, normaly dhcp is set with ltsp-manager, that's te reason? i did it manually, and didn't know the change
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| 07:06 | here ltsp-manager didn't work, it gave an error, i had to change this:
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| 07:06 | in file /usr/bin/ltsp-manager change line 18
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| 07:06 | self.wTree=gtk.glade.XML ("./ltsp-manager.glade")
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| 07:06 | to
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| 07:06 | self.wTree=gtk.glade.XML ("/usr/share/ltsp-manager/ltsp-manager.glade")
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| 07:06 | <ogra> yep
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| 07:07 | <yanu> yet another thingy: could you mark an your webpage, for localdev to work, people need to use ldm (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices)
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| 07:07 | <ogra> the one in edgy is only for coders to get to the sorcecode quickly ... for feisty we have a spec i'm working on to make it work correctly
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| 07:07 | <yanu> that was also something i didn't know
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| 07:07 | <ogra> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/ltsp-management-gui
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| 07:08 | yanu, the docs all assume you go with a default ubuntu-ltsp ... feisty will have localdev support for xdmcp, sbalneav is working on that atm
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| 07:09 | <yanu> nothing worked with the default ubuntu-ltsp
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| 07:09 | <ogra> did you file bugs ?
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| 07:10 | <yanu> no, i have made a persenal list, things that didn't work here, you want it?
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| 07:11 | where to fill in bugs? i never done that
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| 07:12 | <ogra> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
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| 07:12 | assign them to the package ltsp ...
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| 07:13 | <yanu> wierd, i already have an account there :)
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| 07:15 | <ogra> heh
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| 07:16 | <yanu> i ordered some cd's, that's why :)
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| 07:17 | <ogra> ah
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| 07:18 | <yanu> is this bad? LDM does not warn when a user is already logged in
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| 07:19 | <ogra> hmm, might be ... ldm needs some pam message integration i guess ...
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| 07:19 | <yanu> i just read it in the bugs
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| 07:19 | * msinhore is back (gone 12:41:30) | |
| 07:19 | <ogra> yeah its an open whishlist bug iirc ...
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| 07:22 | <yanu> ogra: are you aware of problems with /lib/udev/add_fstab_entry if you use also the server to run X
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| 07:25 | <ogra> ?? can you be more detailed ?
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| 07:26 | <yanu> well, when sticking in a usbstick, a window pops up, to open a filebrowser, to mount the device
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| 07:26 | the filebrowser opens, but the mounting doesn't happen.
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| 07:27 | reason i found: in /lib/udev/add_fstab_entry there's a line that adjust the /etc/fstab
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| 07:29 | echo "/dev/${1} ${MOUNTPOINT} ${2} defaults 0 0" >> /etc/fstab
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| 07:29 | <ogra> yeah ...
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| 07:29 | <yanu> i had to change it to
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| 07:29 | echo "/dev/${1} ${MOUNTPOINT} ${2} defaults,user 0 0" >> /etc/fstab
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| 07:30 | so it could be mounted
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| 07:30 | <ogra> the problem here is that the subsequent scripts wont find the ssh socket
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| 07:30 | no
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| 07:30 | there is no user
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| 07:30 | not on thin clients
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| 07:30 | the mounting on the client happens as root ..
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| 07:31 | the fuse mount from the server to the client happens as user
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| 07:31 | <yanu> uhu, i talk about the X-session on the server
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| 07:31 | there is where the problem exits
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| 07:31 | <ogra> ??
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| 07:31 | /lib/udev/add_fstab_entry runs on the client
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| 07:31 | <yanu> i am running X on the ltsp server
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| 07:31 | it is also installed on the server
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| 07:32 | <ogra> with xdmcp suport ?
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| 07:32 | no
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| 07:32 | then you broke something
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| 07:33 | the ltspfsd is strictly a client package, see the package description
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| 07:33 | <yanu> i did a normal install, plugged in a stick, and had a problem, so i search where it was ...
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| 07:33 | <ogra> "... that connects with the daemon on the client. This package
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| 07:33 | contains the daemon to be run on the ltsp thin-client..."
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| 07:34 | <yanu> ach, indeed, i installed first ltspfsd, later, after reading what you said, i removed it, apparently no all of it
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| 07:34 | ok, now i get it
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| 07:35 | <ogra> i'll talk to sbalneav, it should depend on ltsp-client which is not installable on a server
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| 07:42 | <Envite> Hola a todos desde España
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| 07:43 | Hello all from Spain
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| 07:44 | <yanu> belguim also ok? :)
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| 07:45 | damned, there was a bug on ltsp-manager .... tsss
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| 07:54 | <Empiric> yanu
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| 07:54 | i have next server defined
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| 07:55 | i have serevr ip 192.168.0.11 nad dhcp is running on my fw 192.168.0.1
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| 07:55 | but my clients are at 192.168.1.0 network
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| 07:55 | nay idea
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| 07:56 | <sep> Empiric, perhaps you have a rouge dhcp server in your network ?
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| 07:56 | <Empiric> TFTP get arp-time out
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| 07:56 | i ahve only one dhcp
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| 07:56 | thats on my fw
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| 07:56 | <yanu> i'm running 2 dhcp's
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| 07:56 | <Empiric> well fw is routeable through 192.168.0.0 192.168.1.0 network
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| 07:56 | no i have stoped ltsp dhcp
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| 07:56 | i have only one
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| 07:57 | any idea plz help
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| 07:57 | i have ubuntu-edge installed with ltsp-serevr
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| 07:57 | <yanu> can you ping both machines, server (192.168.0.11) and terminal (192.168.1.x)?
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| 07:58 | isn't that so, depending on the netmask ?? i'm not so good at networking
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| 07:59 | <Empiric> well i think so
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| 07:59 | but my ltsp server is pinging my 1 network
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| 07:59 | so i wont think so it taht prb
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| 08:00 | <Empiric> yanu
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| 08:00 | i need ur help
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| 08:00 | any idea
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| 08:01 | i ubuntu i wont have to set hosts , hosts.allow anf lts.conf files?
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| 08:01 | it that true
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| 08:01 | <yanu> i did put them in /etc/hosts
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| 08:01 | <Empiric> ok
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| 08:02 | <slipttees> Empiric: about Ltsp 5?
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| 08:02 | <Empiric> i ahve put three clints just for test
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| 08:02 | i did apt-get install ltsp-server
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| 08:02 | i wont know its ltsp 5
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| 08:02 | ubuntu-edge builtin ltsp 5 i think
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| 08:03 | after picking ip it wont go to ltsp server
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| 08:03 | <yanu> if ubuntu edgy, it's ltsp5
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| 08:03 | <Empiric> i wont see any thing in logs
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| 08:04 | ok
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| 08:04 | here is my dhcp
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| 08:04 | http://pastebin.com/836106
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| 08:04 | what ptah should i use for filename
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| 08:07 | <yanu> hmm, pastebin.com ??
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| 08:07 | pastebin.ca
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| 08:07 | <Empiric> pastebin.com
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| 08:07 | any prb in viewing the page
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| 08:08 | <yanu> now ok
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| 08:09 | <Empiric> any prb
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| 08:10 | <yanu> filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0"; i have filename "ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
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| 08:10 | option root-path "192.168.0.11:/opt/ltsp/i386"; i have option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";
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| 08:11 | but if that would make a diffirence ??
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| 08:11 | <Empiric> no i wont think so
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| 08:11 | what abt filename
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| 08:11 | is that correct
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| 08:12 | <yanu> think so
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| 08:12 | <Empiric> then
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| 08:12 | <yanu> with or without an / , don't think it makes a diff
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| 08:12 | <Empiric> whast the idea
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| 08:13 | <Empiric> tftp cant open connection
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| 08:14 | <yanu> i would try : subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { and range 192.168.0.200 192.168.0.250;
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| 08:14 | staying in the same subnet
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| 08:14 | <Empiric> well if i from my machien do ftp 192.168.0.11
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| 08:15 | its wont ftp 192.168.0.11
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| 08:15 | ftp: connect: Connection refused
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| 08:15 | ftp> quit
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| 08:15 | my ip is 192.168.1.232
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| 08:15 | <yanu> is your tftp running?
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| 08:16 | /etc/inetd.conf -> tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 08:16 | <Empiric> ya
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| 08:17 | its running
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| 08:18 | so u mean its only network defference
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| 08:18 | right
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| 08:18 | subnets basically
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| 08:18 | <yanu> is it working right now?
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| 08:18 | <Empiric> no
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| 08:18 | what
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| 08:18 | <yanu> ach ok
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| 08:18 | <Empiric> ftp is ruunig
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| 08:18 | any idea
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| 08:19 | <yanu> did you change the dhcpd.conf , everything to 192.168.0.x ?
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| 08:19 | restart the dhcp3-server
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| 08:20 | <Empiric> no
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| 08:29 | <yanu> ogra_: for ldm, ssh_keys, must they been set manually?
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| 08:31 | <ogra_> the chroot installer runs ltsp-update-sshkeys in the end of the install ... if you changed ip's you either need to ifdown/up the interface or run ltsp-update-sshkeys again
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| 08:31 | that will copy the keys
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| 08:32 | <yanu> thx!
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| 08:40 | <Empiric> hau
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| 08:40 | whats up
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| 08:40 | yanu
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| 08:42 | <yanu> ?
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| 09:09 | <sbalneav_> Morning all
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| 09:14 | <yanu> sbalneav: evening ;)
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| 09:15 | <sbalneav> Hello yanu
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| 09:16 | <yanu> filled in some bugreports
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| 09:34 | <sbalneav> Where?
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| 09:35 | <ogra> launchpad ;)
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| 09:35 | hey scottie :)
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| 09:35 | <yanu> yep
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| 09:35 | * ogra waves from the first fat-client built with the new plugin | |
| 09:36 | <sbalneav> Ohhh!
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| 09:36 | Excellent
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| 09:36 | <ogra> well, this partz was easy, even though there were a lot more dirs we need in rw mode
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| 09:37 | now everything depends on ldap auth and mounted /home
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| 09:37 | <sbalneav> Ah, I sorta suspected we'd need more than just the gdm log rw
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| 09:37 | Yeah, ldap's still the blocker.
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| 09:37 | <ogra> yeah, dbus was a bit nasty to me :)
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| 09:37 | and /media needs to be writeable for automounting devices
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| 09:38 | buut currently i'm surfinbg, IRCing and listening to my music from the mounted ipod via rhythmbox
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| 09:39 | <sbalneav> I've been playing around with gnash the last day or so.
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| 09:39 | They're in the process of adding movie support now.
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| 09:39 | <ogra> nice
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| 09:39 | is it finally half way stable ?
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| 09:39 | <sbalneav> The big win from my point of view is: gstreamer's a backend for sound.
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| 09:40 | It's getting there.
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| 09:41 | * ogra needs to find some food ... bbl | |
| 09:41 | <sbalneav> If sabdfl's looking for a place to spend some money where it will make a better out-of-the-box experience, helping to get gnash to the point where it's a viable replacement for... other products :) would be a huge win. Flash support out of the box, and flawless with thin clients would be a huge win.
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| 09:52 | <Empiric> hai yune
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| 09:52 | its dome
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| 09:52 | rangerpb is now known as rangerhomezzz | |
| 09:52 | <Empiric> but i cvant login to local user
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| 09:52 | why
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| 09:53 | hai yani
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| 09:53 | yanu
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| 09:53 | any idea
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| 09:54 | i have created local user
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| 09:54 | it wont login through gui as well as from CLI
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| 09:56 | <yanu> Empiric: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WebSearch?search=trouble&scope=text
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| 09:57 | <jammcq> g'morning kids
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| 09:57 | rangerhomezzz is now known as rangerpb | |
| 09:58 | * jammcq wonders what the 'pb' stands for | |
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| 09:58 | <rangerpb> howdy jammcq
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| 09:59 | <slipttees> :)
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| 09:59 | news about ltsp5?
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| 10:00 | http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1598/waterworld3vx.jpg
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| 10:00 | :P
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| 10:02 | <efra> Hi everybody
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| 10:04 | <slipttees> ooppss man
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| 10:04 | :)
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| 10:11 | <mzilikazi> ltsp noob - install on debian sarge - client boots the kernel but can't mount the root fs: ERROR! No 'root-path'
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| 10:11 | i should be able to mount the nfs exports on any network machine yes?
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| 10:11 | i get permission denied when trying to mount the nfs shares
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| 10:11 | manually
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| 10:13 | <Empiric> hai
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| 10:13 | yanu
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| 10:13 | any idea
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| 10:13 | i dont think we have to do any thing
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| 10:14 | for localuser login
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| 10:16 | hai any one has idea
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| 10:16 | how i login through ltsp thin client to local system user
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| 10:17 | <yanu> install ldm on the server, SCREEN_01 = shell, SCREEN_02 = shell, CREEN_07 = ldm
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| 10:19 | <Empiric> apt-get install ldm
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| 10:21 | <Empiric> i dont have lts.conf
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| 10:21 | i wont create
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| 10:21 | it
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| 10:22 | <slipttees> ltspcfg
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| 10:22 | $ sudo ltspcfg
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| 10:23 | <Empiric> ok
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| 10:23 | done
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| 10:24 | <sbalneav> whoa
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| 10:24 | Which version of ltsp do you have installed?
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| 10:25 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 10:25 | <sbalneav> hey jammcq
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| 10:25 | <jammcq> how you doing?
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| 10:25 | <Empiric> i have ubuntu-edgy
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| 10:25 | <sbalneav> Doing fine
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| 10:25 | <Empiric> its ltsp 5 i think
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| 10:26 | <sbalneav> then you don't use ltspcfg
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| 10:26 | <Empiric> is there any prb in ltsp 5
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| 10:26 | ya
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| 10:26 | i just create my lts.conf
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| 10:26 | well i wont need it
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| 10:26 | ubuntu by default logins
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| 10:27 | <sbalneav> The lts.conf file should be created automatically when you do an ltsp-build client
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| 10:27 | <Empiric> well i create it
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| 10:27 | it wont login
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| 10:27 | as soon as enter username paswdor
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| 10:27 | scren blinks and again i got login screen
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| 10:27 | this si odd
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| 10:27 | what should id o
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| 10:27 | am stuck
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| 10:28 | <sbalneav> ok, so what you need to do is do a "sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys"
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| 10:28 | * vagrantc really thinks ldm should properly implement ssh-askpass and handle when the keys have changed... | |
| 10:29 | <sbalneav> Probably.
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| 10:31 | <Empiric> i did
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| 10:31 | nothing isd seen
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| 10:31 | nothing happens on server
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| 10:31 | <sbalneav> It just completes?
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| 10:32 | i.e. the prompt comes back?
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| 10:32 | <Empiric> done
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| 10:32 | tahnsk
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| 10:32 | <sbalneav> So, is it working?
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| 10:42 | <Empiric> ya
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| 10:42 | thanks
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| 10:42 | alot
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| 12:33 | <Empiric> hai whats the howto to configure ltsp on ubuntu
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| 12:42 | <highvoltage> hi, I need some help with ltspfs on Ubuntu Edgy with LTSP 4.2. anyone brave anough to help me? :)
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| 12:46 | <vagrantc> !ubuntu
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| 12:46 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "ubuntu" is a Debian based GNU/Linux distrubution that includes a Ubuntu specific version of LTSP. It can be found at http://www.ubuntulinux.org
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| 12:46 | <jammcq> highvoltage: what's the problem?
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| 12:47 | <vagrantc> Empiric: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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| 12:47 | !topic
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| 12:47 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: Error: "topic" is not a valid command.
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| 12:47 | <vagrantc> !topics
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| 12:47 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "topics" is To get a list of topics, type ltspbot: factoids search --values
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| 12:48 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: factoids search --values
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| 12:48 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: 'ltsp', 'ubuntu', 'sbalneav', 'icewm', 'frappr', 'wiki', 'debian', 'edubuntu', 'dhcpd', 'greyscreen', 'greyscreen', 'grayscreen', 'pastebot', 'ltsp42', 'localdev', 'checklist', 'muekow', 'bestltspdistro', 'serversize', 'serversizing', 'wireless', 'ltsp5', 'sound', and 'topics'
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| 12:48 | <highvoltage> hi jammcq
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| 12:48 | <jammcq> hey jonathon
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| 12:48 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: learn ubuntuquick as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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| 12:48 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: The operation succeeded.
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| 12:48 | <highvoltage> I had this working in dapper with ubuntu 4.2, so I just copied my ltsp directory to the edgy installation
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| 12:49 | <jammcq> ok, that's the easy part
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| 12:49 | do you have the FUSE module loaded?
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| 12:49 | <highvoltage> then I installed ltspfs on the server, and copied the files acrros to start ltsp in the gnome session
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| 12:49 | yes, fuse is loaded
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| 12:49 | <jammcq> is the user a member of the fuse group?
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| 12:49 | <highvoltage> yes, the user is a member of the fuse group
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| 12:49 | <jammcq> does lbussd get started?
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| 12:49 | <highvoltage> I'm not sure
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| 12:49 | because the "Drives" directory doesn't exist
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| 12:50 | <jammcq> the 12-point troubleshooting document would be VERY helpful for you to figure out where it's failing
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| 12:50 | <highvoltage> is there a 12 point troubleshooting document?
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| 12:50 | <jammcq> there's a script that runs on login that probably isn't running
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| 12:50 | <highvoltage> I think that's the problem
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| 12:50 | it should work if I manually run it as that user, right?
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| 12:50 | <jammcq> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev#Troubleshooting
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| 12:51 | <highvoltage> jammcq: thank you, I will look at that right now
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| 12:53 | <highvoltage> bingo!
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| 12:53 | for some reason 51lbus-start is not executable
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| 12:54 | thanks jammcq
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| 12:54 | <jammcq> heh
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| 12:54 | that's scotty's beautiful troubleshooting document
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| 12:54 | <highvoltage> he's really good at documentation
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| 12:55 | hmmm... seems like I'm missing a perl module too, it says Can't locate X11/Protocol.pm in @INC
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| 12:55 | <jammcq> yeah, you'll need that
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| 12:56 | <highvoltage> hmmm... any idea what the ubuntu pacakge might be called?
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| 12:57 | <jammcq> in Dapper, it's called: libx11-protocol-perl
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| 12:57 | prolly the same in edgy
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| 12:57 | <highvoltage> ok, I'll try that
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| 13:02 | <jernst> would it be possible to improve nfs mounting by having portmap start before mounting the root fs ?
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| 13:03 | <jammcq> how would that help?
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| 13:04 | <jernst> jammcq: I (and I see other people do to) have big problem with nfs and ltsp
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| 13:04 | the problem is that it won't mount (probably because of race condition/timeout)
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| 13:04 | <jammcq> but how does portmap help that situation?
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| 13:04 | <jernst> if the server is using gigabit and the client has a 100Mbit nic or is connected using a 100Mbit switch
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| 13:05 | jammcq: I'm not really an expert about nfs, I just know that when you don't have portmap installed and try to mount an nfs share it takes longer and I thought it could help with the timeout
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| 13:06 | btw do you have some advice to fix it another way (I tried what I read in the wiki, but it didn't seemed to change anything)
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| 13:06 | <jammcq> that's got nothing to do with portmap. that is because as of the 2.6 kernel, the NFS blocksize is 32k, and when you try fragmenting 32kb into a 1500 byte MTU, and then throttle it down from 1000mb/sec to 100mb/sec, problems arise
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| 13:06 | <jernst> ok, and is there a working workaround (edgy, muekow) ?
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| 13:07 | <jammcq> in a NORMAL setting, where you are doing an NFS mount from one machine to another, you need portmapper for lockd. but in the case of LTSP, you don't need that, cuz we mount the filesystem readonly, so we don't need mountd
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| 13:07 | <jernst> I see, so I guess the init script mount the root fs with -nolock then
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| 13:07 | <jammcq> the speed/blocksize problem is documented on the wiki, but i'm not sure if the MOPTS parameter is recognized by LTSP-5's initramfs
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| 13:08 | <Gadi> heh, just found a bit of a problem in the edgy ltsp screen scripts
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| 13:08 | hello, all, btw
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| 13:08 | <jernst> I tried both MOPTS and NFSOPTS to no avail
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| 13:09 | <Gadi> ogra: u around?
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| 13:09 | <jernst> jammcq: in the ubuntu ltsp's section when it says you have to append NFSOPTS=..., does it mean append on the same line as the existing line or append to the file (next line) ?
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| 13:10 | <jammcq> it's a KERNEL commandline option
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| 13:10 | so, you need to pass it on the same line as the other options
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| 13:11 | <jernst> ok that's what I thought and what I did... too bad it still doesn't work
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| 13:11 | maybe I'll have more luck adding the options in the script that calls nfsmount ?
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| 13:13 | <jammcq> jernst: I'd suggest talking to ogra when you get a chance. he wrote that part of it, and understands it very well
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| 13:13 | <jernst> ok thanks, I'll try to talk about it with him
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| 13:41 | <highvoltage> jammcq: thanks, it seems to work now :)
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| 13:45 | <vagrantc> i think the ubuntu initramfs-tools uses kernel commandline options more similar to the in-kernel nfsroot support.
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| 13:46 | nfsroot=<serer-ip:>/path/to/nfsroot<,nfsopt1,nfsopt2,nfsopt3>
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| 13:47 | presuming they pulled my patches from debian's initramfs-tools, anyways.
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| 13:57 | <jernst> vagrantc: so I should add this in /tftpboot/lts/2.4.26-ltsp-3/pxelinux.cfg/default ?
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| 13:57 | <vagrantc> jernst: not if you're using ubuntu's ltsp.
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| 13:57 | jernst: that sounds like an ltsp 4.x install
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| 13:58 | <jernst> vagrantc: in http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/NFS#NFS_Server_not_responding, they speak about it in " Different syntax in ubuntu's LTSP version"... where would you put your nfsroot line then ?
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| 14:00 | <vagrantc> /var/lib/tftpboot/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 14:00 | or maybe without the i386, depending on which version
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| 14:01 | <jernst> ok thanks, I'll try
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| 14:02 | one last question : is it nfsroot=<serer-ip:>/path/to/nfsroot<,nfsopt1,nfsopt2,nfsopt3> or nfsroot="<serer-ip:>/path/to/nfsroot<,nfsopt1,nfsopt2,nfsopt3>" or NFSROOT="<serer-ip:>/path/to/nfsroot<,nfsopt1,nfsopt2,nfsopt3>" ?
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| 14:03 | <vagrantc> lowercase.
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| 14:03 | <> indicate an optional argument
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| 14:08 | <jernst> ok but what about the quotes ?
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| 14:08 | <vagrantc> shouldn't need them, but shouldn't hurt either.
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| 14:15 | <jernst> ok I'll try and report back (then if it works we could update the wiki)
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| 14:33 | <cliebow_> anyone use openit with ldap/
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| 17:28 | <PMantis> jammcq, ping
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| 17:29 | <cliebow> pMantis:woop!!
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| 17:29 | <PMantis> sup?
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| 17:29 | <cliebow> nada: just felt like saying woop!!
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| 17:29 | <PMantis> lol
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| 17:33 | <cliebow> PMantis: you use net::LDAP in perl?
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| 17:33 | <PMantis> cliebow, not yet
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| 17:34 | <cliebow> i can send you some stuff to go by if you'd like
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| 18:06 | <mzilikazi> my client hangs at: rc.sysinit completed, switching to multi-session mode - should there be any delay at all at this stage?
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| 18:06 | server has 100Mb eth and client has 10Mb - maybe that is a problem?
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| 19:11 | <kgoetz> hi all. i'm looking at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LocalMedia#Introduction atm, and wondering is that supposed to be replaced by or work together with http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspFS?
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| 22:08 | <PMantis> hey jammcq
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| 22:08 | <jammcq> ho
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| 22:08 | brb
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| 22:09 | <jammcq> hello
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| 22:11 | <PMantis> Ahhhhhhhhhh
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| 22:11 | It feels so good to copy data from a failed RAID to a fresh pair of drives
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| 22:12 | <PMantis> I really could've used a 3ware card... would've saved me about 3-4 hours of playing with dmraid.
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| 22:13 | <jammcq> I had a drive failure in my big machine last week. I popped the new drive in, it automatically rebuilt the array, and Duane just kept on working, without noticing a problem
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| 22:13 | that's how it's supposed to work :)
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| 22:13 | <PMantis> Yeah
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| 22:14 | I happened to have a server that wasn't used. Ordered 2 350GB drives, and build a new server with the pair.
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| 22:14 | Happened to have on-board "RAID" with the MB's SATA controller.
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| 22:15 | Had to follow the Ubuntu Wiki's "fareraid" howto.
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| 22:15 | Uses a device mapper to see the drives as a single device... so at least it's a hardware assisted RAID.
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| 22:17 | jammcq, so, how'd you *know* it was a drive failure? Have a real server class machine with lights?
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| 22:19 | Whatever the situation, it's gotta be bed time... too many late nights this week.
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| 22:19 | cya
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