IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 6 November 2023 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:39 | <Peters278> Hi there, i got a quick question: we have some usb-docking stations for connecting laptops. They dont work with ltsp as they need a driver to be recognized. Do you know of any docking stations that work with ltsp?
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| 07:42 | <alkisg> Peters278: these provide the ethernet port?
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| 07:47 | <Peters278> yes - all connections (ethernet, mouse, keyboard, display) should be on the docking station - so the laptop just needs to be connected via usb
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| 07:49 | <alkisg> Peters278: and the "not working with ltsp" part , what does it mean, that the bios doesn't recognize the ethernet card and it can't boot from it?
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| 07:49 | I.e. is it a bios, an ipxe, an initramfs, or an ubuntu issue?
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| 07:49 | What's the error message and at what exact point; get a screenshot it possible
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| 07:51 | <Peters278> the pxe boot works fine when the ethernet connection of the laptop is used - but not when the ethernet connection is on the docking station that is connected via usb. So in general the bios settings should be fine. The docking station also works on a "normal" ubuntu installation on the internal laptop harddrive.
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| 07:52 | <alkisg> But that doesn't answer the question. Can you get a screenshot? It sounds like a bios issue.
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| 07:52 | I.e. the bios knows the internal ethernet but not the docking station ethernet
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| 07:52 | <Peters278> but the question was more general as i am looking for another docking station as the one tested is borrowed from a friend just to try it out. So i can buy one that is known to be working with ltsp.
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| 07:52 | <alkisg> You need to buy one that your bios knows about it
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| 07:52 | <Peters278> if there is such a thing
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| 07:52 | <alkisg> It's not an ltsp question
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| 07:53 | <Peters278> ah ok.
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| 07:53 | <alkisg> But I'm trying to pinpoint what the question is...
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| 07:53 | <Peters278> The question was asked in the hope that there is a docking station that is known to be working without big problems ;)
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| 07:53 | <alkisg> It's not an operating system question at all, it's a bios question
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| 07:54 | There's no "docking station that works with all BIOSes"
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| 07:54 | What you can do after that, is to boot just the kernel/initramfs from the hard disk
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| 07:54 | Then you bypass the bios inability and you use the linux abilities
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| 07:55 | <Peters278> ok - then i will search the lenovo forum more deeply (its lenovo laptops/bios). Thx for your help. much appreciated
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| 07:55 | <alkisg> Do these laptops have hard disks?
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| 07:56 | <Peters278> yes
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| 07:56 | <alkisg> Then you can use any docking station
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| 07:56 | Because you can have ...let's call it a boot manager
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| 07:56 | That selects between e.g. local windows or remote linux (=ltsp)
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| 07:57 | <Peters278> sounds somewhat like grub in linux - but tbh about that i only know that you can select with it which os to boot
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| 07:59 | <alkisg> Right. So, grub would select between windows or linux. Then when linux is selected, the "kernel and initrd" will be loaded from the local disk. That's just 200 MB, it doesn't need a partition or a lot of disk space. Then all the rest can be loaded from the network.
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| 08:01 | <Peters278> so i would need to edit that? Or do i misunderstand?
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| 08:10 | <alkisg> You would need to install that, yes; like installing a boot manager
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| 08:29 | <Peters278> Install - is it some package of the os? I just had a rough search and found the syslinux project which supplies packages for debian/ubuntu etc.
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| 08:32 | <alkisg> What operating system do the laptops have on their hard disk? Windows ? Linux? Both?
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| 08:34 | <Peters278> both. windows + kubuntu
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| 08:35 | kubuntu is mainly used, windows for some programs
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| 08:44 | <alkisg> Then you already have grub installed; this means that you just need to copy the linux kernel and initrd to the local disk, and then create a new grub entry
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| 08:44 | Unfortunately I don't think we have any documentation on how to do that for the current ltsp version; you'd need someone that knows grub etc to spend some time on it and make you a how-to
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| 08:46 | <Peters278> thx for your answer. i will hav a look into that. I know some people with deeper linux knowledge and will ask them. Your help is much appreciated.
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| 12:30 | <anomdl^MDL-SM-6> Hi, I've just set up epoptes server. What's the name of the file where informations are stored, please? (IP, mac adresses, groups, PCs names)
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| 12:31 | Thank you!
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| 12:31 | Sorry I'm under Ubuntu/Zorin lastest version
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