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00:56 | <tyoc213> Hi there, Im new to this using ubuntu 9.10. So anyone know a nice tutorial or howto for setup my rdp server with ltsp?
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00:59 | <tyoc213> and what is the porpuose of sudo ltsp-build-client ?
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01:03 | <johnny> !docs
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01:03 | <ltspbot`> johnny: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
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02:09 | <gnunux> hi
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03:24 | <nyu_> hi
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03:25 | I want to setup a menu launcher on LTSP, similar to the one in ThinStation. I'm evaluating the following options: 1) .xsession magic with *DM session selection, 2) custom script using dialog/zenity/whatever, 3) port the launcher for ThinStation over
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03:26 | any suggestion? is there a better approach?
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03:28 | <Appiah> what's a menu launcher?
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03:29 | <nyu_> Appiah: an application / setup to display a number of options to the user (e.g. rdesktop, NX client, etc)
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03:29 | <Appiah> before entering the desktop?
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03:30 | <nyu_> there wouldnt be any standalone desktop
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03:31 | <Appiah> so
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03:31 | <nyu_> just remote login
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03:31 | <Appiah> LDM launches , you login , then you get to choose
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03:31 | or LDM launches you get to choose , then login
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03:31 | <nyu_> I'd rather run it entirely in the client
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03:32 | I don't want clients to login into the server, just to mount the filesystem readonly
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03:32 | is there no cooked up solution to this?
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03:33 | it doesn't seem so rare that I'm the only one who wants it
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03:33 | <Appiah> does not sound like LTSP to me
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03:33 | <nyu_> LTSP suits well for most of it, as it provides a base rescue system to run things from
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03:42 | <Appiah> you could always search the mailinglist
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03:53 | <ogra> Appiah, i think he means something pre-ldm where you can select the session type (ldm/rdesktop/telnet/whatever)
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03:53 | <Appiah> yes I understand that now :D
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03:54 | kind of like how softwares that are provided on thin clients
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03:54 | where you can add Citrix and/or MS TS
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03:56 | oh btw nyu_
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03:57 | <nyu_> ogra: yes
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03:57 | <Appiah> when people wan to be able to choose between rdesktop and normal they edit lts.conf
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03:57 | with scree_0#=
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03:57 | screen*
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03:57 | <ogra> nyu_, i'm sure that would be an appreciated (optional) feature
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03:57 | <nyu_> done that, but I need a friendlier user interface than "press CTRL-ALT-F2"
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03:57 | <Appiah> so thats how people usally do things
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03:58 | <nyu_> can I run arbitrary commands in lts.conf / SCREEN_XX entries?
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03:58 | they seem to want a specific setting among rdesktop, shell, etc
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03:59 | <ogra> you could write a screen script that brings up a menu and then executes the other screen scripts based on the selection i bet
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04:00 | <Appiah> many ways to approach this :D
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04:01 | Been thinkin of similar when I was gonna put in spice-client
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04:50 | <nyu_> uhm I think GRUB can suit well for the menu selection
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04:51 | then I just need to pass this as a parameter in Linux cmdline
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04:54 | <Appiah> :)
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05:43 | <nyu_> uhm
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05:43 | I take it you aren't supposed to regenerate initrd.img using update-initramfs ?
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05:44 | I just did that, and LTSP stopped booting
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05:44 | is some special magic required?
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05:51 | <ogra> did you run ltsp-update-kernels on the server afterwards ?
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05:51 | else your initrd doesnt end up in the tftp dir
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06:00 | <nyu_> ogra: I copied it by hand
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06:00 | <ogra> and you set the right links etc ?
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06:02 | <nyu_> oh, silly me
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06:02 | looks like I copied the symlink instead
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06:02 | <ogra> thats why we provide scripts that dont make mistakes ;)
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06:04 | <nyu_> ah, well my setup is a little too customized for your scripts to work
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06:04 | maybe I can sort it out sometime
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06:05 | $boss wants something that works first ;-P
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06:11 | <ogra> and the default didnt work ?
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06:20 | <nyu_> not to our requirements
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07:20 | <tyoc213> people, I really dont know how to configure ltsp (ubuntu 9.10) so I will really apreciate if there is a step by step tut for set it up?
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07:28 | <Appiah> what's the problem?
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07:28 | <Appiah> !docs
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07:28 | <ltspbot`> Appiah: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
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07:28 | <Appiah> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
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07:36 | <tyoc213> mmm, the problem is that I really dont know if some server will be started after I install a package like ltsp-server
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07:38 | and from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP I dont know which one to read I mean there is no straigth forward info about configuring it, for example see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall Hardy Heron (8.04 that is a lot old isnt?
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07:39 | and I have installed via synaptic... I guess is a little diferent than install a server from startup... also dont know if that option is still available in 9.10 but I have already installed ltsp-*
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07:41 | <tyoc213> the info I have finded is normally for 8.04 or somewhat old... I have even finded some ltsp-package that aparently are not supported now (or have changed names perhaps)
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07:45 | <cliebow> !docs
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07:45 | <ltspbot`> cliebow: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
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07:46 | <cliebow> tyoc213, ^^^^^
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07:48 | <ogra> tyoc213, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall say that from hardy on the design changed ... it applies to the current release
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07:48 | *says
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07:48 | note that link :) "get the Karmic Koala iso from http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/"
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07:50 | <tyoc213> OK today after work I will read the manual and see if I can do something
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07:51 | <tyoc213> I see...
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07:52 | I will try that later, now I g2g
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07:53 | mmm I have already try sudo ltsp-build-client but I got an error... that it was able to create it...
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07:53 | <tyoc213> now it says NOTE: Root directory /opt/ltsp/i386 already exists, this will lead to problems, please remove it before trying again. Exiting.
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07:54 | but I dont want to delete it because I remember that is has taked much time downloading things, there exist a way to reuse it?
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07:55 | <ogra> see ltsp-build-client --extra-help
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07:55 | iirc there was an option
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08:00 | <tyoc213> sudo ltsp-build-client --purge-chroot ?
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08:00 | <ogra> no
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08:00 | there is an option to re-use the servers package cache directory
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08:02 | though you will now have to redownload once again at least to get them into the *servers* packagecache
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08:03 | <tyoc213> --copy-package-cache and then --mount-package-cache?
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08:04 | <ogra> right, either of these
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08:04 | but note that all downloaded packages in the /opt dir are wiped at the end of ltsp-build-client anyway if you didnt use one of these options
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08:04 | so you can safely delete it now
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08:05 | and then do all new builds with --mount-package-cache ... that will keep them on the server
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08:13 | <MRH2> hi anyone seen an issue with remote X where click input from the mouse does not work and the cursor is a big L shape.
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08:25 | <tyoc213> ok, brb later
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08:40 | <litlebuda> hi all is it possible to burn a cd directly on the thin client cd drive ?
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08:40 | <ogra> with localapps, yes
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08:41 | <litlebuda> ogra quem you please point me out to where that info is . i cant seem to find it :( thnaks
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08:41 | * can
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08:41 | <ogra> i doubt there is any
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08:42 | i was just commenting on the technical possibility :) you need to install some CD writing software in the client chroot, rebuild the image and should then be able to use the cd writing app as a localapp
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08:43 | <litlebuda> well i have access to usbsticks and cd contents , but they are beiyng mounted at /media/username/cdrom
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08:45 | <litlebuda> ogra shouldn't they apear on the desktop ?
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08:47 | <alincoln> anyone know where I can find the branch that has the add_mirrors problem fixed? I have latest upstream branch and ltsp-build-client dies because of this.
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08:48 | <ogra> litlebuda, only if you use a distro and desktop that have ltspfs properly integrated
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08:49 | <litlebuda> ogra xubuntu here !
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08:49 | should work no ?
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09:03 | <Pod2> is it possible to remotely reboot clients in ltsp 5? ltspinfo did it in 4.2
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09:23 | <_UsUrPeR_> hey, does anybody know of an lts.conf parameter for "Mic Boost" volume settings?
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09:24 | <sbalneav> Pod2: I don't beleieve there's something built in directly, but I posted something to the mailing list about a year ago on how to do it.
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09:24 | <ogra> _UsUrPeR_, i bet Gadi does
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09:25 | <alkisg> !lts.conf
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09:25 | <ltspbot`> alkisg: "lts.conf" :: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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09:26 | <alkisg> Hmmm only the volume is there, not the boost :(
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09:26 | <_UsUrPeR_> yeah :/
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09:26 | I've been trying to get alsamixer to recall settings
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09:26 | and it has become a conundrum
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09:26 | because either way would be fine
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09:28 | <Gadi> _UsUrPeR_: you might be able to get it
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09:28 | <Pod2> sbalneav: thanks, I'll see if I can find it
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09:28 | <_UsUrPeR_> gadi: I have attempted to make a script in chroot's init.d...
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09:28 | <Gadi> what is the exact channel name for the mic boost (when you do: amixer scontrols |grep -i boost)
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09:29 | <_UsUrPeR_> Gadi: there's two, and I'm not quite sure which is which. One is Front Mic Boost, the other is Mic Boost
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09:30 | <Gadi> try: MIC_BOOST_VOLUME = "on"
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09:30 | and: FRONT_MIC_BOOST_VOLUME = "on"
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09:30 | (a little weird syntax, but the code *may* do the right thing
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09:30 | oh, no wait
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09:31 | I have a % in there
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09:31 | it won't work
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09:31 | we would need to add code to get it done
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09:32 | _UsUrPeR_: all your code needs to do is call: amixer -c0 sset 'Mic Boost',0 on
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09:32 | <_UsUrPeR_> Gadi: I just put the code in /usr/share/ltsp/xinitrc.d
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09:32 | is that a good place for it?
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09:33 | <Gadi> if you put it there, it will set it every time X starts
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09:33 | <_UsUrPeR_> good
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09:33 | that's what I want
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09:33 | <Gadi> ok
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09:33 | <_UsUrPeR_> on the local side, mind you
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09:33 | this is for a localapp
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09:33 | <Gadi> preface it with: I*
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09:34 | <_UsUrPeR_> ok
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09:34 | <Gadi> and you should add a || true
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09:34 | in case it errors out
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09:35 | so: amixer -c0 sset 'Mic Boost',0 on || true
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09:35 | <_UsUrPeR_> Gadi: ok :)
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09:36 | ok, now looking at the settings in amixer, they were already set to "0"
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09:36 | however, alsamixer claims that on restart they're set at max
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09:36 | or 100
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09:36 | or whatever
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09:36 | <Gadi> note: the ,0 after the channel name is not the setting
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09:37 | <_UsUrPeR_> ahhh~~~
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09:37 | <Gadi> if you simply type: amixer
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09:37 | or amixer -c0
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09:37 | the settings are the last line(s) of each channel
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09:40 | <_UsUrPeR_> huh. weird. both mic boosts do not have [on] next to them. How are they "on" then?
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09:47 | <sbalneav> _UsUrPeR_: if it's anything like my Audigy NX 2 USB sound card at home, there's no harware connection between the light, and the function. Basically, the light's something that can be turned on and off independent of the thing it's supposed to represent.
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09:48 | It's up to the driver to "turn on and off" the light when the function's turned on and off.
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09:58 | <_UsUrPeR_> ahh. huh
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14:14 | <vagrantc> stgraber: eeyk. waiting forever is a bad idea on netcat ...
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14:14 | stgraber: if ldminfod is not installed/configured... ldm will never start.
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14:14 | <johnny> that reminds me
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14:15 | why doesn't ldm return error messages :)
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14:15 | why must people look in the log
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14:15 | it'd be nice if ldm was more like the new gdm with a link to the log
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14:15 | <vagrantc> johnny: because *you* haven't coded it yet? :P
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14:16 | <alincoln> vagrantc: does the the add_mirror stuff in upstream work for you?
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14:16 | <vagrantc> alincoln: yes
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14:17 | <alincoln> vagrantc: i get errors with ltsp-build-client. i thought i saw something on here about a commit that wasn't quite right, and a fix was coming... or something
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14:17 | <vagrantc> alincoln: what version of ltsp-server?
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14:18 | <alincoln> vagrantc: well, what i'm really trying to do is learn how to use upstream's bzr. so i grabbed it, tried to package it, installed the .deb, and ltsp-build-client failed.
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14:19 | vagrantc: i'm new to debian packaging... i was trying to base it on your branches for packaging
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14:19 | maybe this was dumb :P
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14:20 | <vagrantc> alincoln: there was one change in upstream that requires changes to packaging that i haven't yet pushed.
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14:20 | <alincoln> vagrantc: the nbd-proxy stuff?
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14:20 | <vagrantc> alincoln: no, the add_mirrors stuff
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14:20 | <alincoln> ah, no wonder i couldn't get it to work, heh
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14:21 | it seems like the change to nbd-proxy caused stuff too.
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14:21 | <vagrantc> nbd isn't used by default in debian, so i haven't really tested that
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14:21 | <alincoln> gotcha.
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14:21 | <vagrantc> but i really ought to...
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14:21 | <alincoln> well, my motivation is that if i want to be developing, i really need to be doing it off upstream's bzr, right?
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14:22 | so i am trying to package it for this in particular
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14:26 | <sbalneav> vagrantc: Oh, SNAP
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14:26 | :)
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14:26 | You're starting to sound like me! :)
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14:26 | * sbalneav wipes a tear | |
14:26 | <sbalneav> <sniff> My little vagrant, all grown up now :)
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14:27 | johnny: heh, good idea. I'll put it on the list of things to do.
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14:27 | <johnny> sbalneav, actually i was asking if there was a reason
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14:27 | if i really want to request that it should be done, i should file a ticket
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14:28 | <sbalneav> Well, I think the idea to logging to syslog is so that if you enable remote syslog, then the admin can look on the server's log.
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14:28 | so, in short, LTSP 4.2 compatible.
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14:28 | <johnny> of course it should still do that
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14:29 | <sbalneav> but being able to just click on "View Log" somewhere on the login screen's a good idear too.
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14:29 | and shouldn't be too hard.
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14:29 | <johnny> sbalneav, does the newer ubuntu's have that?
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14:29 | i know fedora does
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14:29 | <sbalneav> just open up a textbox with the contents of /var/log/ldm.log in it.
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14:29 | <johnny> it shows what happened with all the "Starting Services"
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14:29 | <sbalneav> johnny: I think it's there, just not enabled by default.
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14:32 | <stgraber> vagrantc: it should just fail then, not wait forever (as inetd won't be accepting connections)
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14:32 | stgraber@castiana:~$ nc -q-1 10.145.1.1 1234
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14:32 | stgraber@castiana:~$ nc 10.145.1.1 1234
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14:32 | vagrantc: ^
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14:32 | I have nothing listening on 1234 obviously
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14:33 | <vagrantc> stgraber: so what's it waiting for?
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14:33 | <stgraber> data if the connect gets established
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14:33 | <vagrantc> stgraber: as long as that scenario works, i guess i have no complains...
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14:33 | stgraber: what if it has something listening there, but it's some other service that never sends data?
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14:33 | <stgraber> regular nc will wait for whatever the server returns, openbsd's nc doesn't
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14:34 | so it'll send the request but will return before it gets the response
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14:34 | vagrantc: never sends data would be fine as long as the connection gets closed
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14:34 | vagrantc: the only thing that'd hang is a service that won't close the connection
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14:34 | <vagrantc> stgraber: and if it doesn't?
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14:34 | <stgraber> well, then we'd be back to what we had before, as with regular nc
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14:35 | <vagrantc> really?
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14:35 | <stgraber> yep
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14:35 | <vagrantc> ok :)
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14:35 | <stgraber> nc <someplace> 22
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14:35 | will never return
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14:35 | well, it'll after ssh timeouts
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14:35 | <vvinet> a few minutes looks awefully like never
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14:36 | <mfdutra> hello. is it possible to include an extra button in ldmgtkgreet through a theme, or someway else without chaning its code?
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14:37 | <mfdutra> s/chaning/changing/
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14:37 | <sbalneav> mfdutra: Hey Marlon!
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14:37 | <mfdutra> sbalneav, heeey
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14:37 | <sbalneav> No, unfortunately :(
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14:38 | <mfdutra> we already started the migration here
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14:38 | <sbalneav> ldmgtkgreet's hardcoded, harcore.
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14:38 | <mfdutra> is that "Preferences" button hard coded?
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14:38 | <sbalneav> Everyone, Marlon's our friend in Brazil. He's got literally HUNDREDS of LTSP terminals an Unversity of the Northen Amazon :)
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14:39 | <mfdutra> I guess it's about 2100 now
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14:39 | <sbalneav> mfdutra: yeah. Did you want it removed?
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14:39 | 2100?!
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14:39 | <mfdutra> 23,000 students
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14:39 | 2100 thin clients
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14:39 | <sbalneav> Holy Cr*p :)
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14:39 | <vagrantc> thousands :)
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14:39 | <sbalneav> I was thinking it was like 1200
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14:39 | <mfdutra> no, it's ok there. I'd like to include a button for the user to jump windows TS, if he wants to
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14:39 | <sbalneav> Just got my numbers reversed.
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14:40 | <mfdutra> we have a ubuntu cluster and a windows cluster
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14:40 | they'll buy 250 new thin clients this week
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14:41 | I'm testing an atom 1.6 ghz with 1 gb ram
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14:41 | today, when the clients boot, I stop at a dialog script asking the user for windows or linux
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14:41 | the user hits enter and I either X -query or rdesktop
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14:42 | right before that all my cluster logic runs
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14:42 | that works perfectly
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14:42 | <mfdutra> I'm just wondering if I could just have a button on ldm for the user jump to windows. that's a way to influence the user to log in linux
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14:42 | <vagrantc> mfdutra: could re-implement that as a wrapper screen script fairly easily
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14:43 | <mfdutra> yes, indeed
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14:43 | but if I offer the user a linux/windows option with dialog, most users will choose windows
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14:43 | in a graphical fashion, I can have more influence in that decision
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14:44 | if ldm opens with focus on username/password, most users wouldn't even see the "windows button" and log directly in linux
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14:44 | we didn't have local apps here, so it was almost the same for me if the user was in windows or linux
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14:44 | now we're migrating to ltsp-5 with local apps, specially firefox
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14:45 | so I REALLY want users to use linux, but I cannot push them
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14:45 | it's a private university and they don't pay cheap to study here :)
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14:45 | <kaos01> we have a single lab where all they can use is linux :)
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14:45 | no menu options
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14:46 | or you could also make the default selection linux, so unless they explicitly choose windows linux will boot
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14:47 | <vagrantc> mfdutra: ah, i see. :)
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14:48 | <kaos01> im running ltsp5 with fedora12 using local devices, when i insert usb stick, the device and not the partition gets mounted
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14:48 | <mfdutra> kaos01, that's what we do today, but most users still go for windows
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14:49 | * Gadi wrote this a while ago: http://pastebin.com/m29813afc | |
14:49 | <Gadi> ala lts.conf-configurable menu screen script thingie
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14:50 | well, thats a rough draft of one
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14:51 | <kaos01> in LDM can one change the 'Username' text to somethign else ?
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14:51 | <mfdutra> Gadi, that's what we do today
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14:51 | <Gadi> mfdutra: ah
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14:51 | <mfdutra> kaos01, it's translated here for me
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14:51 | with locales
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14:51 | * Gadi figured | |
14:51 | <kaos01> i like to change the text though
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14:52 | <kaos01> so they know which usernames they need to use, as some think there are different ones around
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15:04 | <vagrantc> kaos01: i don't think there is currently a way to set that, but it wouldn't be hard to add.
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15:12 | <Lns> Hey all, this is probably a noob q, but has anyone gotten microphones working with localdev only (read: not localapps)? I'm running 'legacy' Ubu 8.04 ;)
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15:43 | <johnny> i would recommend upgrading Lns :)
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15:43 | lol
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15:43 | but really lucid is coming out soon enough i guess now
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15:44 | i don't see why mics wouldn't work tho
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15:44 | <johnny> Lns, my guess.. without looking.. is that you should examine the pulseaudio config
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15:44 | in the ltsp client setup
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15:52 | <mfdutra> my ltsp-cluster-lbserver.log is reporting an error: code 400, message Bad request syntax ('getkey')
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15:59 | <Lns> johnny, yeah, thx =) I figured as much, just am at home w/no LTSP term to test with. Kinda hit me when I remembered that PA is the awes ;)
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16:00 | * Lns can't wait Lucid is out! | |
16:01 | <johnny> Lns, why don't you have a term at home?
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16:02 | or even just a vm pretending to me a term..
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16:02 | that's what i did
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16:02 | term as vm.. running on the server :)
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16:02 | fedora's default setup makes it easier than ubuntu's
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16:02 | via the virtual bridging interface
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16:02 | but i'm sure you can manage it..
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16:03 | Lns, i'm really waiting for the debonoboified evolution
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16:03 | altho really.. evo is not making me happy as a client..
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16:03 | i wish somebody would make something like evo.. just faster
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16:03 | and have more plugins..
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16:06 | <akuepker> Gadi: It looks like we resolved the DHCP multi-IP/DDNS issue with the 'deny duplicates' and 'one-lease-per-client true' statements in dhcpd.conf.
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16:08 | <Lns> johnny, sorry.. I do have a VM ltsp term, but it kinda makes it more difficult testing hardware when you've got that additional layer
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16:11 | <tyoc213> Hi there, doing sudo ltsp-build-client --mount-package-cache I get this error http://pastebin.com/d431fc5de
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16:13 | <vagrantc> tyoc213: looks like it's including lots of extra packages in the debootstrap run...
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16:13 | <tyoc213> Im on ubuntu 9.10
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16:14 | <vagrantc> well, maybe i don't know what ubuntu's debootstrap includes by default ... but initramfs-tools and sgml-base seem a bit excessive.
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16:14 | <tyoc213> how can I correct this?
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16:15 | <vagrantc> it looks like it actually eventually suceeded, though
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16:15 | <johnny> Lns, sure.. but most things are testable with it..
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16:16 | not with any specific specs..
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16:16 | but testing with the mic works or cameras work
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16:16 | or usb sticks
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16:16 | sound
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16:16 | debugging local apps
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16:16 | you can do most things with it..
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16:16 | <vagrantc> tyoc213: looks like the mirror you tried to download from failed for some reason... possibly brief network downtime at the wrong moment... maybe a broken transparent proxy...
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16:17 | <Lns> johnny, well i was going to have to head down to the office in a bit anyway...but you're giving me more confidence regarding doing stuff like that =)
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16:17 | <vagrantc> tyoc213: it doesn't have the appropriate versions of some of the software you're trying to install
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16:18 | <tyoc213> mmmm I see
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16:18 | so I need to configure something I guess
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16:20 | <sbalneav> Back on tonight.
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16:49 | <Guest78845> Hi I am trying to experience the limits of video streaming over 100Mps LAN.
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16:49 | Here is what I did. Server = AMD ATHLON X2 3800+ and thin client = thinkpad T40 laptop; connected via 100Mbps lan.
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16:49 | I installed locally on the thin-client: xbmc, vlc, firefox, mplayer after finding out that non locally installed video players lead to very choppy video performance.
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16:49 | The following to configurations seem to lead to smooth video performance (NOT h264 encoded!):
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16:49 | 1) ltsp local mplayer playing nfs mounted video files from the server
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16:49 | 2) using mediatomb on the server and vlc on the client via upnp
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16:49 | However for h.264 video both approaches are not good -> choppy video.
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16:49 | Therefore I tried a third. On the fly transcoding to mpeg2 with mediatomb with ffmpeg. This improves video streaming performance, but leads to 99% singe CPU usage on the server and 99% CPU usage on the thin client.
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16:49 | Question: How can I further improve the h.264 video streaming experience in a thin client cluster using ubuntu 9.10 ? Would a gigabyte LAN help?
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16:50 | Please advice.
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16:51 | Hello, someone active?
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16:55 | <Guest78845> Hello
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16:57 | <akuepker> sorry, never been a focus for us. Ours are office PCs.
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16:58 | <Guest78845> so video streaming is not of interest in an ltsp environment?
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17:02 | <Guest78845> no one has experience with video streaming over LAN?
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17:05 | <johnny> nobody who is here now i guess
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17:05 | this is not an active time for this channel
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17:06 | after 5PM EST.. it is not active often
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17:06 | unless you get lucky
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17:06 | so.. try back tomorrow.. but a few hours earlier..
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17:07 | <Guest78845> ok, thanks for the info. Will try tomorrow then.
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22:28 | <sbalneav> Yawn
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22:28 | To sleep. perchance to dream.
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