00:04 | <sbalneav> Google the ltsp-discuss mailing lists, it's been posted there about a thousand times :)
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00:05 | <Drock> i'm load driver for touch screen etwousb, but device don't work correctly, in xorg.log i see - driver is loaded
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00:06 | <kaos01> ah something like 0=
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00:22 | <kaos01> ok i need to get rid of 0=Standard
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00:23 | in the old gdm you just had to uncomment the line, but i think i might need to owerwrite it somehow in new version
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00:23 | in custom.conf
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06:07 | <daya> vagrantc, h
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06:07 | hi
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08:36 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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08:36 | <iMav> evening!
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08:46 | <cliebow> anyone up to par on gutsy ltsp?
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08:46 | /par/speed/g
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08:47 | <sbalneav> cliebow: I'm developing it. Does that count? :)
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08:47 | <cliebow> only to 3
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08:48 | 8~)
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08:48 | <sbalneav> Whassup?
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08:48 | <cliebow> my term stops short asi f it has some ipv6 grievance???
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08:50 | <cliebow> watching the packets..tftp is fine..lots of tcpping..then KERN_DEBUG:KERNEL ETH0 NO IPV6 routers present
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08:51 | msg on the term is "failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag
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08:51 | which is prob irrelevant
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08:53 | <cliebow> skinny client control protocol? tcp checksum is borked?
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08:55 | i cant tell if the squashfs is mounted or what...
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09:09 | <sbalneav> hmm
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09:09 | What terminal is this?
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09:11 | cliebow: What kind of box is this?
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09:12 | <cliebow__> Sbalneav:it is a Dell with a 3com pxe
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09:13 | <sbalneav> Does the bootsplash come up?
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09:13 | <cliebow__> sbalneav, yes
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09:13 | <sbalneav> ok, go to the pxe options, and ditch the quiet splash bits, and reboot, lets get a closer look.
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09:13 | <cliebow__> just dfid another capture..
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09:13 | ok
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09:16 | nothing to put a finger on..i saw kestrel login momentarily so that piece seems intact.ooooh
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09:16 | /usr/sbin/delayed_mounter not found
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09:16 | ltsp-client-core
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09:17 | W: alsa-util.c:device doesnt support 44100..changed to 44099
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09:18 | <sbalneav> the delayed mounter bit's ok
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09:18 | Well, if it's that far, it's got the nbd mount done
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09:18 | <cliebow__> sso has the squashfs been mounted at this point??mus be huh?
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09:18 | heh
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09:19 | <sbalneav> yep
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09:19 | looks like it's dying at x
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09:20 | <cliebow__> maybe ill check what card is in there..
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09:21 | that is way cool it d/l's lts.conf
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09:32 | <sbalneav> cliebow__: Tried vesa?
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09:33 | <cliebow__> tried i810 next vesa..did =shell
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09:34 | <cliebow__> usually vesa is crapola with an intel board
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09:35 | <sbalneav> Yeah, but good for eliminating whacky graphics troubles.
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09:35 | <cliebow__> ok..trying it
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09:36 | <sbalneav> Another datapoint for the graph :)
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09:38 | <cliebow__> dude!!!
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09:38 | Here is where the status messages go
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09:38 | where is the ooga booga?
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09:38 | cliebow
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09:38 | whoops
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09:39 | <sbalneav> :)
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09:39 | Wait'll ogra merges my latest stuff
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09:39 | <cliebow__> cant wait!
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09:39 | <sbalneav> So, works on vesa?
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09:40 | <cliebow__> on login i have whirling ball of death so far..yeah works on vesa..
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09:41 | <sbalneav> I'll have a status message for when it can't log in due to ssh keys.
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09:41 | which should aid debugging immesurably.
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09:41 | <cliebow__> still whirling ball of death..
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09:55 | <cliebow__> sbalneav:do i need to toss the old image?
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09:55 | <sbalneav> It just overwrites it.
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09:56 | I think
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09:56 | actually I've never looked. :) Maybe it's keeping the old images and I've never seen them
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09:56 | If so, I've got a LOT of them on my development box :)
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09:57 | <cliebow__> i see a pile of error messages...but i get the login screen..
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09:57 | i see a pile of error messages...when building the image
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09:58 | but get login screen..then whirling ball of death..
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09:58 | gonna go looking around..
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09:59 | <sbalneav> What error messages when building?
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09:59 | Paste 'em to the pastebot
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10:00 | <cliebow__> k
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10:01 | balls..gotta switch networks
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10:04 | <ltsppbot> "cliebow" pasted "cliebow@kestrel:/var/lib/tftpb" (65 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/237
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10:07 | <sbalneav> You don't have /proc mounted in the chroot when you're doing the update-image, do you?
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10:07 | <cliebow__> not intentionally
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10:08 | <sbalneav> Better check that.
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10:08 | <cliebow> k
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10:12 | <cliebow__> seems building fine scond time around..
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10:25 | <sbalneav> If /proc's mounted, when it tries to compress /proc/mem, bad things happen :)
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10:34 | <cliebow__> brb
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11:10 | <daya> vagrantc, hi
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11:11 | <daya> vagrantc, I again followed the step in the wiki in debian etch (gnome), again the ldm screen in not presented
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11:12 | vagrantc, I can't login in client even in cosole , although I set the password in chrooted env.
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11:12 | vagrantc, any Idea about it,
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11:14 | <sbalneav> daya: Did you do an ltsp-update-image after you updated the password?
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11:16 | <daya> sbalneav, ltsp-update-image?, In previous I din't have to do it, is it a new command,
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11:16 | <cliebow> daya:since a month or so..
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11:16 | the chroot is created as an img and mount with nbd
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11:17 | <sbalneav> Yep, new command.
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11:17 | <daya> I have not this command in the system,
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11:18 | <sbalneav> Are you running sid? or etch?
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11:19 | <daya> I followed the step in http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto , the lower one, in etch
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11:22 | <daya> everythings is right ,but I am not presented the login screen , instead dropped me to the console
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11:23 | <cliebow> initramfs?
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11:23 | <daya> But when I followed the upper method, all things work expect sound,
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11:23 | cliebow, no login prompt,
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11:24 | <cliebow> any messages to tell how far you get?
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11:27 | <daya> cliebow,Detected Xorg .. and Screen resolution are presented etc, the things is that every things went normal, excpet it can't start X i.e ldm,
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11:27 | <daya> and prompted for username and password in Black screen.
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11:29 | <staffencasa> I have a question that may be really easy. Does anyone know why I would get this error when booting PXE "/bin/sh: can't access tty:job control turned off (initramfs)"
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11:30 | <sbalneav> You're not mounting the root directory.
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11:31 | <staffencasa> how do I fix that?
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11:33 | <cliebow__> can you watch logs on your server see if perhaps your ethernet card is not being recognized?
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11:34 | see that you have second dhcp response
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11:35 | sbalneav: still get whirling ball..any logs that will show me what's up?
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11:35 | <staffencasa> Well I have Dell Optiplex GX260's and GX150's and when I try to install Ubuntu 7.04 or Edubuntu 7.04 on them, they give me this error
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11:36 | * cliebow__ cliebow wits for the guru to speak 8~) | |
11:36 | <sbalneav> staffencasa: Can you paste your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf, file, and the output of ifconfig -a to the pastebot?
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11:36 | !pastebot
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11:36 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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11:36 | <sbalneav> cliebow__: take a look on the client itself, in /var/log/ldm.log
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11:36 | see what's in there.
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11:37 | <cliebow__> try to ssh in? or shell
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11:37 | <staffencasa> will do, just a sec
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11:38 | <sbalneav> cliebow__ shell on tty1
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11:39 | <cliebow__> k
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11:39 | <ltsppbot> "staffencasa" pasted "PXE Boot" (18 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/238
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11:40 | <staffencasa> that's all default, I've not changed anything
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11:40 | <sbalneav> k
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11:43 | <ltsppbot> "staffencasa" pasted "PXE Boot ifconfig" (34 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/239
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11:43 | <staffencasa> there's my ifconfig
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11:44 | <cliebow__> cd /var/log
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11:44 | ls
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11:44 | heh
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11:45 | <dmorar> hi, im trying to install this new terminal, and i had an problem with the nic
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11:45 | im using pxe, and a broadcom 440x 10/100 C card
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11:45 | <sbalneav> staffencasa: Hmm, that looks reasonable.
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11:45 | <dmorar> i made a custom pxe config file with the ip made an hex
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11:46 | <sbalneav> staffencasa: You might try a sudo invoke-rc.d nfs-kernel-server restart
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11:46 | <dmorar> and now i get something like: kernel panic - not syncing, dhcpcd failed
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11:47 | <cliebow__> sbalneav:i have a login prompt..but i know no user..
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11:47 | on tty1
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11:47 | <sbalneav> cliebow__: did you set root's password?
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11:47 | in the chroot?
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11:47 | <cliebow__> negative..
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11:48 | <sbalneav> Your path is clear, my child.
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11:48 | <cliebow__> will do..then update image again..
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11:48 | <sbalneav> yep
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11:48 | <staffencasa> sbalneav, trying...
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11:48 | <cliebow__> should i have known that??
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11:50 | <staffencasa> sbalneav, that worked, it's not pretty, but it worked. Thanks for your help
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11:50 | <sbalneav> heh, prolly not, but it's like the first thing I do these days,
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11:51 | Seeing as how I'm developing. So I forget not EVERYONE has root login enabled on the client.
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11:51 | one of these days I GOTTA sit down and write up a "debugging ltsp5 howto" section.
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11:51 | I NEED MORE ^(@&^ HOURS IN A DAY!!!
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11:51 | :)
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11:52 | <dberkholz> don't we all?
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11:52 | <sbalneav> heh
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11:52 | Man, where do we file a bug on that?
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11:52 | <cliebow__> sbalneav:i can ask stupido questions and you just have towrite down your answers
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11:52 | <dberkholz> god.gov ?
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11:52 | <cliebow__> heh..
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11:52 | not god.us??
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11:53 | <sbalneav> Listen, we all know the real address is god.ca, seeing as how Santa's also in Canada.
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11:53 | <dberkholz> he's in greenland, which is really denmark
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11:54 | <sbalneav> Nope. Canada, and I can prove it.
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11:54 | <dberkholz> otherwise the inuit would've run into him by now
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11:54 | <sbalneav> If you send a letter to Santa Clause C/O north pole, CANADA H0H 0H0, you'll get an answe.
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11:55 | lunch!!!
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11:55 | be back in an hour.
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11:55 | <cliebow__> Canada has it all....soccer on tv doctor who..and Santa
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11:58 | <dmorar> hello, can you help me?
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11:59 | <cliebow__> dmorar:prob not,,but i'll listen..
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12:01 | <dmorar> lol
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12:01 | hie cliebow_ , long time no see
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12:01 | im trying to install this new terminal, and i had an problem with the nic, im using pxe, and a broadcom 440x 10/100 C card, i made a custom pxe config file with the ip made an hex, and now i get something like: kernel panic - not syncing, dhcpcd failed
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12:02 | <jammcq> hey kids
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12:08 | <cliebow__> jammcq:!!!
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12:09 | you up to speed on using ldm?
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12:18 | <jammcq> cliebow__: nope, I've not played with ldm yet
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12:19 | brb
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12:20 | <kuitang> How can I preserve a user's session across a client shutdown/crash/reboot?
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12:35 | <sbalneav> kuitang: We don't have a way at the moment
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12:35 | Back from lunch
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12:35 | hey jammcq
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12:36 | cliebow__: You get any farther?
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12:36 | What's the ip address of the server?
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12:36 | <kuitang> sbalneav: So if the client machine powers off, unless they've been saving regularly, they're screwed, right?
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12:37 | <sbalneav> Yup
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12:37 | <sbalneav> Some people manage to hack vnc/FreeNX into ltsp, to get session persistence, but it's not included in base ltsp.
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12:37 | <cliebow__> usage ldm vt[1-N] <:0-N>
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12:38 | <sbalneav> ldm vt7 :6
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12:38 | What's the ip address of the server?
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12:39 | <cliebow__> LDM2 starting
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12:39 | LDM2 running on 192168.0.250
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12:39 | <sbalneav> If it's not 192.168.0.254, you may need to add a SERVER = xxxx line to your lts.conf file
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12:39 | <cliebow__> i think i have done..lemme look
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12:39 | <sbalneav> I've noticed it doesn't seem to pick it up automatically like it used to.
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12:40 | must be a regression somewhere.
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12:40 | <cliebow__> ohhh..a stray i
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12:44 | ahhhh..now getting somewhere
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12:46 | any reason i couldnt chroot and install openssh-server and update-image? for the hell of it?
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12:47 | /usr/sbin/ldm vt7 :6
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12:47 | Balls
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12:48 | <dan__t> 'afternoon, all.
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12:48 | So under one username, beagled keeps respawning
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12:48 | It's up to like 15 instances right now
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12:48 | and the client machine is turned off
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12:48 | <Blinny> I'd call that a big yuck.
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12:49 | <dan__t> Yep.
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12:49 | killall -u ${USERNAME} works, but it just re-spawns
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12:51 | <sbalneav> dan__t: might want to clear out any files owned by the user in /tmp, and possibly wherever beagle keeps it's settings.
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12:51 | Beagle's part of gnome, so you might get better answers in #gnome, or such.
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12:52 | <dan__t> Okie dokie
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12:54 | <cliebow__> lweird:i got ldm to produce a login screen once..but now i see "no server specified" at the end of log even with SERVER = 192.168.0.254 in lts.conf
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12:55 | <sbalneav> Well, if you're running it from the command line, you're going to have to manually set up some variables
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12:56 | because you're missing out the bit that does a getltscfg -a
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12:56 | and then .'s the results
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12:56 | <cliebow__> hmmm
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12:56 | <sbalneav> easist will be to export SERVER=blah and then run ldm
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12:56 | <cliebow__> k
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12:57 | getltscfg -a spits out variables ok
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12:58 | <sbalneav> right, but the start_session script sets those up before calling ldm, etc.
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12:58 | <cliebow__> ooh ooh oooh
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12:58 | <sbalneav> you're executing it directly on the command line
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12:58 | so those env variables aren't there.
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12:59 | <cliebow__> COOLIO..i got a login screen a successful login and even sound..albeit from the server
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12:59 | and i think i know half my problem now
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13:01 | 'boy oh boy..it is close..
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13:02 | <cliebow__> sbalneav: a hash will still comment a line in lts.conf?dont answer if correct..
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13:02 | <sbalneav> Yes, that is correct.
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13:02 | HAHAHA So now you don't know wether it's correct or not!!!
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13:03 | <cliebow__> Well it works anyway 8~)
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13:03 | <cliebow__> stupido me..i was already logged in on server as me..that could screw up even a White House wedding
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13:06 | <sbalneav> There's a joke there about the white house and screwing things up that I'm not going to touch with a ten foot pole :)
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13:08 | <cliebow__> an environment variable redirects sound as well?
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13:08 | <sbalneav> Well, there's the SOUND=Y on the client.
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13:08 | and on the server there's the remote sound variables.
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13:08 | <cliebow__> by default?
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13:09 | <sbalneav> I think by default it's N
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13:09 | <cliebow__> so ill add to lts.conf
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13:09 | <sbalneav> sure.
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13:10 | <cliebow__> yes..says default valur is unset
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13:10 | Cool! now i can add user oogabooga
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13:11 | <sbalneav> :)
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13:11 | If you want local devices to work, make sure you add oogabooga to the fuse group
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13:11 | <cliebow__> k
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13:23 | <sbalneav> Off to a meeting. Be back in an hour or so
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13:23 | <cliebow__> bye..
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13:46 | <dan__t> cliebow_, long time no see buddy
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13:46 | How are you
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13:49 | <cliebow__> dan__t, confused as ever 8~)
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13:49 | <dan__t> On?
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13:49 | <cliebow__> need a liberal dose of Scottie to get me through..
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13:49 | <dan__t> heh
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13:50 | <cliebow__> there is always the "meaning of life" confusion as well..
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16:49 | <klausade> anyone using LDM_SERVER in their lts.conf ?
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16:51 | <Gadi> sure, whats up?
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16:55 | <klausade> Gadi: well, I probably "forgott" something related to ssh. I get ldm up, but after entering username/password it just throws me back to ldm.
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16:56 | <Gadi> yeah, if you are going to use LDM_SERVER, you need to either:
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16:56 | <klausade> log at http://paste.debian.net/33415
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16:56 | <Gadi> a. add the ssh keys for that server into /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
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16:57 | b. set "StrictHostKeyChecking no" in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_config
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16:58 | <klausade> Gadi: yes! I only had half of a) done :-)
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16:58 | <Gadi> (there are obvious security ramifications to the latter)
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17:07 | <rjune__> Gadi: !
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17:07 | you're here late
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17:42 | <jamie_> Any one help am running a cybacafe and a few of the kids keep knocking the computers off instead of logging out. This causes gnome to not load the desktop properly it just has a black back round with witch you can nothing with. I thought ssh might be keeping the session open so I changed sshd_config to ClientAliveCountMax 2 and ClientAliveCountMax 2 and it still happens. The only way to fix it is to run killalll -u user. Any one know whats going on pleas
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18:57 | <pablo-uy-mvd> hi! how to i enable automatic login of each termial ? each terminal is related to a specific user so the solution should be based on mac addeess of the clients
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18:57 | is there any way to ahive this?
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18:57 | achive this?
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19:27 | <pablo-uy-mvd> someone told me to use pam modules......but how do i bind gdm conf to pam modules? id like each terminal to autologin in gdm. Each terminal must be bind to a specific user that has specific locked down gnome desktop. The ltsp server is used by kiosks and each terminal/kiosk must use diferent users
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19:27 | i guess mac address must be used in this sort of automatic login system
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19:43 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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21:48 | <vagrantc> !seen jammcq
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21:48 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: jammcq was last seen in #ltsp 9 hours, 29 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <jammcq> brb
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21:49 | <vagrantc> yeah, right.
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21:57 | <rjune> LOL
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22:06 | <str4nd_> yeah, "brb" :)
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22:47 | <sbalneav> Sigh, glibify'ing ldm's gonna be a bit of work.
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22:47 | I wish I could find a nice, clear, concise treatise on i18n for dummies,
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