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Channel log from 26 January 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:51 | <gurkhali69> hello can anyone help me to build fat client image offline? i have done online installation using < ltsp-build-client --fat-client --fat-client-desktop edubuntu-desktop --arch i386 --skipimage > . now i need to install it without using internet connection. plz help...
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| 01:43 | <gnunux> hi
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| 02:03 | <gurkhali69> can anyone tell me how to install ltsp using mirror link in edubuntu?
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| 02:20 | <alkisg> Sure
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| 02:21 | If you stayed at least 1 minute after asking... :D
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| 07:05 | <markit> hi, anyone has experience with ACL? I've created 2 dirs under /srv, one that is rw for teachers but read only for students, the other is rw for everyone
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| 07:06 | things go very well if you CREATE the file there (in any of them), the ACL is respected
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| 07:06 | but if you COPY file there, then you don't have the default permissions applied
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| 07:06 | any clue/solution?
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| 08:13 | <robehend1> anyone use Chromium as a browser with LTSP instead of Firefox?
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| 08:17 | <Pingu> hello
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| 08:18 | any1 listening?
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| 08:18 | I need help with the mouse pointer on a kiosk web based app and touchscreen
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| 08:25 | <robehend1> Pingu: Whats going on, Pingu?
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| 08:55 | <Pingu> is there a way to hide the mouse pointer?
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| 08:56 | <robehend1> don't plug a mouse into the unit/
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| 08:56 | ?*
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| 09:02 | <Gadi> Pingu: try "unclutter"
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| 09:03 | (the package)
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| 09:08 | <Pingu> I tried
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| 09:09 | not exactly what I need
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| 09:09 | I have a tablet running Ubuntu 10.10
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| 09:10 | <Pingu> that starts up directly to a web app running on Firefox
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| 09:12 | The tablet has a touch screen
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| 09:12 | <robehend1> doesn't the mouse pointer follow the touch screens input/
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| 09:12 | <Pingu> I want the mouse to be functional but invisible
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| 09:12 | Is there a way to set the poiner as invisible?
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| 09:13 | <robehend1> make an invisible mouse graphic and apply it to your current theme?
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| 09:13 | it'd still "be there", but just an empty png
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| 09:13 | or whatever format
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| 09:13 | <Pingu> Unlutter hides the mouse while idle, but the pointer shows up when I touch the screen
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| 09:13 | OK
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| 09:14 | how do I do that?
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| 09:14 | <robehend1> looking that up as we speak
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| 09:14 | <Pingu> Is there a transparent mouse theme I can install?
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| 09:14 | <robehend1> not that i know ov, but i'll let ya know in a minute
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| 09:15 | http://www.ehow.com/how_5026012_make-cursors-file-ubuntu.html
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| 09:15 | give that a shot
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| 09:51 | <tastle73> hey there, anybody have a problem getting lts.conf to be paid attention to?
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| 09:57 | <Gadi> tastle73: syntax error?
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| 09:57 | <tastle73> how can I debug that?
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| 09:57 | <Gadi> can you log in at a thin client?
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| 09:57 | <tastle73> I am trying to get a local printer recognized
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| 09:57 | yes
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| 09:57 | I am on it presently
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| 09:58 | <Gadi> log in, open a terminal, run:
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| 09:58 | ltsp-localapps xterm
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| 09:58 | in the xterm that pops up, type:
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| 09:58 | getltscfg -a
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| 09:58 | <tastle73> I am ssh'ed in
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| 09:58 | <Gadi> ssh'ed into the client?
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| 09:58 | <tastle73> yep
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| 09:58 | <Gadi> ok
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| 09:58 | then just: getltscfg -a
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| 09:58 | <tastle73> nothing
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| 09:58 | blank
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| 09:58 | <Gadi> sounds like you have no lts.conf
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| 09:59 | or it is not grabbing it
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| 09:59 | <tastle73> oh but I do :)
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| 09:59 | <Gadi> where did you put it?
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| 09:59 | <tastle73> /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386
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| 10:00 | <Gadi> and you only have the one chroot, right?
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| 10:00 | <tastle73> I have an ltsp_old and new
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| 10:00 | under /opt
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| 10:00 | <Gadi> so you have: /opt/ltsp
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| 10:01 | and: /opt/ltsp_old
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| 10:01 | <tastle73> yes
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| 10:01 | <Gadi> ok
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| 10:01 | distro?
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| 10:01 | <tastle73> ubuntu
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| 10:01 | <Gadi> 10.04?
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| 10:01 | <tastle73> yes
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| 10:01 | <Gadi> ok
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| 10:02 | make sure that: grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf returns nothing
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| 10:02 | and then check: /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
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| 10:02 | <tastle73> nothing in inetd.conf
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| 10:03 | <Gadi> what do you have for TFTP_DIRECTORY=
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| 10:03 | <tastle73> /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 10:03 | <Gadi> hmm... ok
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| 10:03 | so far so good
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| 10:03 | did you change perms on lts.conf?
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| 10:03 | <tastle73> no
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| 10:04 | <Gadi> from the client, can you do:
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| 10:04 | tftp server
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| 10:04 | and at the prompt:
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| 10:04 | get /ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 10:04 | quit
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| 10:04 | and see if it retrieves it ok
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| 10:04 | <tastle73> yep it did
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| 10:05 | <Gadi> on the client, can you cat /etc/lts.conf
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| 10:05 | is it what you expect?
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| 10:05 | <tastle73> yes
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| 10:06 | [default]
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| 10:06 | LDM_DIRECTX=True
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| 10:06 | LDM_SYSLOG=True
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| 10:06 | SCREEN_02=shell
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| 10:06 | SCREEN_07=ldm
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| 10:06 | LOCALDEV=True
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| 10:06 | PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usblp0
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| 10:06 | #PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
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| 10:06 | #PRINTER_0_PORT = 9100
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| 10:06 | <Gadi> and still nothing from: getltscfg -a
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| 10:06 | <tastle73> yep
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| 10:07 | <Gadi> weird
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| 10:07 | well, the commented options can be deleted
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| 10:08 | not used in version 5
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| 10:08 | but, that shouldnt cause the file not to be read
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| 10:08 | * Gadi is at a loss | |
| 10:08 | <tastle73> thanks
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| 10:08 | <Gadi> there must be something wrong with the text file
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| 10:09 | try recreating it
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| 10:16 | <LedHed> anyone here run VNC on display:0 on their clients?
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| 10:17 | would be helpful for helpdesk support
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| 10:40 | <_UsUrPeR_> sup guys
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| 10:41 | running a test 10.04 server, and I am having problems with tftp
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| 10:41 | in syslog, I see the following: in.tftpd[PID]: tftpd: read: connection refused
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| 10:42 | RRQ from 192.168.46.1 filename /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 10:42 | why is tftp denying requests?
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| 10:42 | <_UsUrPeR_> I have attempted to run in permissive mode (-p option) no dice
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| 10:42 | there's no firewall
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| 10:45 | <LedHed> _UsUrPeR_, permission issue on /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0?
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| 10:45 | <_UsUrPeR_> LedHed: naw, that's all default, and appears ok compared to another server I have running
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| 10:45 | I think this is a network issue with a virtual server. (this is a virtual server)
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| 10:46 | <LedHed> can you tftp to it directly?
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| 10:47 | I mean, from another computer, can you connect and D/L files?
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| 11:11 | <_UsUrPeR_> good question
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| 11:11 | lemme try that
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| 11:18 | aww screw it
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| 11:18 | im making a new server
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| 11:18 | <LedHed> lol.
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| 11:18 | Virtual?
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| 11:22 | <_UsUrPeR_> yeah, kvm
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| 11:31 | <tastle73> Gadi, I had a lts.conf file in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc
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| 11:36 | <_UsUrPeR_> tastle73: that file belongs in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/
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| 11:36 | that may be a problem :)
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| 11:38 | <markit> hi, anyone has experience with ACL? I've problems of permissions when you copy files on dir that has a default policy, that seems ignored
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| 11:38 | <tastle73> well, if it is in ~tftpboot it is not picked up
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| 11:40 | <_UsUrPeR_> tastle73: well I can nigh-guarantee you it will not be seen in it's present position.
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| 11:40 | tastle73: to qualify that above comment, are you running ubuntu?
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| 11:40 | <tastle73> iyes
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| 11:40 | <_UsUrPeR_> markit: what OS are you running?
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| 11:44 | <tastle73> I put lts.conf in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc and ran ltsp-update-image -a i386 and it worked
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| 11:44 | did not work until I did so
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| 11:46 | <_UsUrPeR_> sorry, I have been attending to something locally
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| 11:46 | ok, so -
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| 11:47 | first, mv /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 11:47 | next, ltsp-update-image --arch i386
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| 11:48 | tastle73: how are you testing your lts.conf?
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| 11:48 | are you attempting to enter your shells?
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| 11:48 | I.E. screen_02 etc?
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| 11:55 | <tastle73> ssh to the box and typing getltsconfig -a
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| 11:58 | does it matter that my dhcp server is on another box?
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| 11:59 | <_UsUrPeR_> tastle73: that is a definite possibility, yes
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| 12:01 | <Gadi> tastle73: are you using dnsmasq?
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| 12:01 | <tastle73> no
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| 12:01 | <Gadi> next-server?
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| 12:03 | <tastle73> yes
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| 12:04 | # LTSP Section
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| 12:04 | # Start LTSP thinclient booting magic
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| 12:04 | # This section can be moved into each subnet section IF there is a
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| 12:04 | # seperate LTSP server on each subnet.
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| 12:04 | # option root-path is the ltsp server. If there are individual
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| 12:04 | # LTSP servers (one per subnet) then the line below must contain
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| 12:04 | # the IP address of the LTSP server on the correct subnet.
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| 12:04 | option root-path "10.0.0.9:/opt/ltsp/i386";
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| 12:04 | # Start LTSP thinclient booting magic
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| 12:04 | # This section can be moved into each subnet section IF there is a
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| 12:04 | # seperate LTSP server on each subnet.
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| 12:04 | # option root-path is the ltsp server. If there are individual
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| 12:04 | # LTSP servers (one per subnet) then the line below must contain
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| 12:04 | # the IP address of the LTSP server on the correct subnet.
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| 12:04 | <Gadi> you may want to try adding to the kernel command line in pxelinux.cfg/default: nbdroot=<ip>:2000
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| 12:04 | <tastle73> option root-path "10.0.0.9:/opt/ltsp/i386"
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| 12:04 | <markit> _UsUrPeR_: kubuntu 10.10
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| 12:05 | <Gadi> root-path does not apply to nbd
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| 12:06 | <_UsUrPeR_> markit: so are you saying that you cannot create files in the user's directory?
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| 12:08 | <tastle73> so I don't need root-path?
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| 12:13 | <_UsUrPeR_> tastle73: I believe you still need a root path
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| 12:13 | it would look like /var/lib/tftpboot/
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| 12:13 | <markit> _UsUrPeR_: I've to run, I'll be back in a hour
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| 12:13 | <_UsUrPeR_> k
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| 12:13 | <markit> (I can create, only copied files loose permissions)
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| 12:18 | <Gadi> tastle73: right - that's only for NFS
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| 12:21 | <alkisg> Some weird NIC boot roms need root path (even if unused with nbd) otherwise they refuse to netboot
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| 12:21 | tastle73: paste the if/boot filename directives, those are used to fetch lts.conf
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| 12:23 | <tastle73> option root-path "10.0.0.9:/var/lib/tftpboot";
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| 12:23 | next-server 10.0.0.9;
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| 12:23 | if substring (option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9) = "PXEClient"
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| 12:23 | {
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| 12:23 | filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
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| 12:23 | # NOTE: kernels are specified in /tftpboot/lts/pxe/pxelinux.cfg/
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| 12:23 | }
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| 12:23 | else
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| 12:23 | {
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| 12:23 | filename "/lts/vmlinuz.ltsp";
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| 12:23 | }
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| 12:24 | <alkisg> !pastebin
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| 12:24 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "pastebin" :: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 12:24 | <alkisg> What's that "/lts/vmlinuz.ltsp"?
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| 12:24 | Are you using it?
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| 12:24 | Due to that, your lts.conf is expected to be in /var/lib/tftpboot/lts/lts.conf
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| 12:25 | <tastle73> I know that's wrong sorry
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| 12:25 | <alkisg> Here's a correct example: /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/examples/dhcpd.conf
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| 12:25 | So if you fix that line, you'll correctly get lts.conf
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| 12:29 | <tastle73> thanks everybody, I am trying it presently
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| 12:35 | it works
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| 12:37 | <_UsUrPeR_> ok, I am still having an issue with tftpboot on this server. I am capable of booting the client, and getting to tftp...
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| 12:37 | this is a newly-installed ubuntu 10.04 installation
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| 12:38 | with no changes made to the server.
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| 12:38 | aside from dhcp to get it started, and the creation of an ltsp image
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| 12:38 | <tastle73> new problem: users are having to wait 2 minutes until a thin client will allow them to log in
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| 12:38 | <alkisg> _UsUrPeR_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
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| 12:38 | bbiab
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| 12:39 | <tastle73> they can type user and password but it rejects the logon
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| 12:39 | this is in the thin client's log:
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| 12:39 | nbd9: unknown partition table
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| 12:39 | nbd9: NBD_DISCONNECT
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| 12:39 | nbd9: Receive control failed (result -32)
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| 12:39 | <tastle73> nbd9: queue cleared
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| 12:40 | <Gadi> tastle73: is the nbd server also the application server?
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| 12:40 | <tastle73> yes it is
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| 12:40 | I am using ldap as the auth backend
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| 12:41 | <Gadi> then run: sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys; sudo ltsp-update-image --arch i386
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| 12:44 | <tastle73> they cab
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| 12:44 | *can*
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| 13:49 | <robehend1> random, semi ltsp related question. if I create a desktop launcher, is there a quick bash script to copy it into the desktop of all my users? I'm thinking something like.. sudo cp ~/Desktop/launcher.desktop /home/*/Desktop/
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| 14:11 | <yeedl> in ubuntu ltsp, it seems my other virtual terminals aren't enabled
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| 14:11 | anyway i can check and enable them? driving me crazy
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| 14:12 | <robehend1> yeedl: put things like SCREEN_08 = shell in your lts.conf
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| 14:13 | <yeedl> clear
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| 14:13 | i placed SCREEN_06 = shell and got a blank when i went to ctrl-alt-f6
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| 14:14 | <robehend1> if i'm not mistaken, arent we supposed to use numbers above 7/
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| 14:15 | <yeedl> lemme try
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| 14:17 | yay, that worked
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| 14:17 | <robehend1> ah, good.
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| 14:18 | <yeedl> now to get rdesktop working
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| 14:22 | <tastle73> Gadi I ran the commands you gave me with no resolution
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| 14:22 | oddly, if the users log in to a icewm session, they can get in no problem
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| 14:22 | <Gadi> ah
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| 14:23 | do this:
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| 14:23 | !disable_compiz
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| 14:23 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "disable_compiz" :: To disable compiz, try: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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| 14:29 | <tastle73> I also have a bunch of gnome-panel processes in race condition
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| 14:34 | <tastle73> is gnome-watchdog needed in 10.04?
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| 14:44 | shutting off compiz was the trick thanks
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| 14:46 | <_UsUrPeR_> hey all. Can someone tell me the naming convention for mac addresses pertaining to /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg ?
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| 14:46 | <_UsUrPeR_> I created a file called 00e0c5 expecting the client to pick it up, but no dice
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| 14:49 | <Gadi> _UsUrPeR_: 01-aa-bb-cc-dd-ee-ff
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| 14:50 | <_UsUrPeR_> gadi: gotcha
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| 14:50 | Gadi: I am seeing the client check for something completely off-base for the rest. Where is it getting C0A80114 from?
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| 14:51 | that's nowhere close to the actual mac address
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| 14:51 | <Gadi> hex version of IP
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| 14:51 | <_UsUrPeR_> haha oh wow
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| 14:51 | ok
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| 14:51 | <Gadi> 192 = C0
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| 14:51 | etc
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| 14:51 | <_UsUrPeR_> IP, not mac?
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| 14:51 | interesting
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| 14:51 | <Gadi> well, actually no
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| 14:51 | but, you know what I mean
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| 14:51 | yeah
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| 14:51 | <_UsUrPeR_> I believe I do, yes
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| 14:51 | <Gadi> it looks for MAC
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| 14:52 | then network
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| 14:52 | <_UsUrPeR_> ok, gotcha
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| 14:52 | so that's the hex of the MAC?
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| 14:52 | <Gadi> so, you can make a file that applies for the 192. network
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| 14:52 | or the 192.168.
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| 14:52 | etc
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| 14:52 | mac is already hex
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| 14:52 | it is:
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| 14:52 | 01 (for ethernet)
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| 14:53 | then mac
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| 14:53 | with:
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| 14:53 | s/:/-/
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| 14:53 | <_UsUrPeR_> Today I have learned things
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| 14:53 | and here I just thought it was a random bunch of numbers and letters
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| 15:33 | <markit> hi _UsUrPeR_, still there? I'm the one with ACL problems
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| 15:33 | <_UsUrPeR_> markit: hey there
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| 15:33 | FYI: taking off @5 EST (~20 minutes)
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| 15:34 | <markit> I will tell you briefily my problem if you have 5 minutes and you can give me a tip or direction
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| 15:34 | <_UsUrPeR_> I think I got it last time
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| 15:34 | <markit> _UsUrPeR_: I've created 2 dir under /srv, one I want to be R/W for everyone, teachers and students
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| 15:34 | the other must be RW for teachers and R for students
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| 15:34 | everything is fine if I create the files directly there
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| 15:34 | (by teachers or students)
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| 15:35 | but if a teacher creates a file in his own home and THEN copies it there
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| 15:35 | the ACL seems not applied
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| 15:35 | (in R/W students have only R access)
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| 15:35 | am I missing something? is ACL too weak for real usage?
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| 15:35 | I'm so depressed :(
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| 15:35 | <_UsUrPeR_> oh man
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| 15:36 | I had to deal with this one
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| 15:36 | <markit> (this sums up to a long list of "minor issues" that have took a lot of time and energy so far in teh setup)
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| 15:36 | <_UsUrPeR_> there is a specific name for it
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| 15:36 | I believe it's called a "sticky bit" or something
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| 15:36 | <markit> mmm this has nothing to do with ACL, I've tried this in the past
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| 15:36 | before knowing the ACL power, that is exactly what I need exept for the copy thing
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| 15:37 | I'm surprised that in #ltsp so few has this problem, or has solved with acl
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| 15:37 | (I'm open to any efficient and clever solution to the problem itself, in any way, being with ACL or without)
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| 15:38 | <_UsUrPeR_> ok, so how do these people traverse to their directory?
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| 15:38 | is there a simlink in their home dir?
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| 15:39 | how do they access their shares?
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| 15:41 | <markit> they go to /srv/shared
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| 15:41 | using dophin
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| 15:41 | (the kde file manager)
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| 15:42 | so you create a file, open dolphin, select it, right click - copy, go to /srv/shared, then paste
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| 15:42 | then go to the terminal and have a look at extended attributes ACL, and you find that students group has "r" only
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| 15:42 | while if you directly create the file in /srv/shared you get correctly RW
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| 15:43 | <_UsUrPeR_> who owns the /srv/shared dir?
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| 15:43 | <markit> so if you create a file, the default policy is applied, if you copy one there, no (probably keeps the original ones, or mixes, I had no time to check properly, I can do tomorrow)
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| 15:43 | <markit> mmm a teacher
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| 15:43 | <_UsUrPeR_> hmm
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| 15:44 | ლ,ᔑ•ﺪ͟͠•ᔐ.ლ
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| 15:44 | I dunno dude.
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| 15:44 | <markit> :)
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| 15:44 | <_UsUrPeR_> I fixed my problem, and I think I spoke to someone in #ubuntu-server to fix it.
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| 15:44 | <markit> thanks in any case :)
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| 15:45 | ok, thanks for the tip, I will try
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| 15:45 | <_UsUrPeR_> good luck
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| 15:45 | <markit> I need it, lol
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| 17:23 | <dgroos> Hi--I want to add everyone on my server to the fuse group so that they can access usb drives on the thin clients.
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| 17:23 | Can I just "sudo adduser /home/* fuse"?
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| 17:36 | <dgroos> OK, Does it look like this script might work? http://nixcraft.com/linux-software/8498-add-multiple-users-group.html
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| 17:42 | <dgroos> Well, I do understand editing a text file. I'll try /etc/group/ and adding users on that page and restarting...
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