IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 1 May 2013 (all times are UTC)
| 00:06 | <vagrantc> i've been looking, but haven't found anything solid.
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| 00:08 | every one i've found that's close has it's quirks
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| 00:09 | <gdi2k> yeh, it's difficult to find one with the right features and good linux (not just android) support
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| 00:09 | * vagrantc nods | |
| 00:09 | <vagrantc> i'll be taking a look at the cubieboard shortly
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| 00:09 | <gdi2k> I'd be interested to hear how that goes
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| 00:10 | Via's cardboard creation also looked interesting, but I have doubts about the Linux support
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| 00:11 | http://apc.io/products/
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| 00:11 | no audio jacks though
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| 00:17 | (sorry, I lie, they do have audio in / out - it's one of those combo jacks like they use on cell phones)
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| 09:53 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, hi!
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| 09:53 | Day off today? :P
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| 09:53 | <alkisg> Hi Hyperbyte, hi all
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| 09:53 | Much better, two weeks off :)
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| 09:53 | Easter vacations...
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| 09:54 | <Hyperbyte> So you're not demonstrating? :P
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| 09:54 | <alkisg> Hmm irclogs.ltsp.org frequently lags a lot or doesn't work at all...
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| 09:54 | Wow, we're already in the news? :D
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| 09:55 | whoops, coffee time, bbl...
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| 14:05 | <unkmar> Why is ltsp in the news? Greatest project since pumpernickle?
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| 14:29 | <unkmar> Why is ltsp in the news? Greatest project since pumpernickle?
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| 14:29 | I repeated myself cause you weren't here when I said it the first time.
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| 14:30 | <unkmar> so, do we know where the boot logo screen is stored? or ... eh, I'll duckduckgo and see what I find.
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| 14:32 | sweet, found it. sorry to bother you. :)
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| 20:40 | <kev_j> I have iceweasel installed, on the main system and the ltsp chroot, and the adobe reader plugin only works if using the main one and doesn't seem to work on the localapps one...
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| 20:40 | <||cw> do you also have the plugin installed in the chroot?
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| 20:40 | <kev_j> I think so...
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| 20:41 | <vagrantc> kev_j: localapps only execute other localapps... for the most part.
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| 20:41 | <kev_j> I have the mozilla-acroread plugin installed
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| 20:56 | <john_s> Hi all, I am trying to boot fat clients for the first time on Ubuntu 12.04 following highvoltages instructions from http://jonathancarter.org/2010/11/24/how-do-ltsp-fat-clients-work/
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| 20:56 | the TC dumps to busy box
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| 20:57 | doing dmesg shows me blcok nbd) error attempted to send on closed socket and squashfs errors
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| 20:58 | I set it up with the xubuntu-desktop switch
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| 20:59 | I
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| 20:59 | I
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| 20:59 | I seem to have a stutter :)
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| 21:00 | I've tried this with two different fat client computers
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| 21:00 | any pointers would be appreciated
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| 21:01 | <kev_j> vagrantc: I know, you and I went through hell messing with localapps firefox opening acroread from the downloads window (which actually does work in iceweasel), but I have iceweasel and acroread installed on the chroot and can't seem to get it functional
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| 21:01 | <vagrantc> kev_j: hrm.
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| 21:01 | <kev_j> I found something saying that the plugins are in /usr/lib/mozilla/(extensions or plugins)
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| 21:01 | <vagrantc> john_s: most likely the network settings aren't quite right
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| 21:01 | <john_s> hm, so probably my dhcp optionis?
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| 21:02 | <vagrantc> john_s: yeah ... you'll need root-path appropriately configured
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| 21:02 | <kev_j> but I don't know why mozilla-plugin wouldn't install into it
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| 21:02 | <vagrantc> john_s: your DHCP server and LTSP server are on the same machine?
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| 21:02 | <john_s> vagrantc: no, I use windows dhcp with options leftover from Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
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| 21:03 | <vagrantc> kev_j: i'm not understanding that last part ... you're saying you tried to install a package and it failed?
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| 21:03 | john_s: oh boy ... well... you'll need to find the root-path and next-server options in windows DHCP ...
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| 21:03 | john_s: or try using dnsmasq
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| 21:03 | !dnsmasq
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| 21:03 | <ltsp> Error: "dnsmasq" is not a valid command.
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| 21:04 | <vagrantc> john_s: i'm a little weak with ubuntu configuration, but ltsp-config dnsmasq should set up proxydhcp
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| 21:04 | er, "ltsp-config dnsmasq"
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| 21:04 | that way the windows DHCP server supplies the networking settings, and the LTSP server provides the appropriate network booting DHCP options.
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| 21:05 | <john_s> vagrant: I am using a 1 nic setup, is that still appropriate?
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| 21:06 | vagrantc: sorry slipped on the nic there
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| 21:06 | <vagrantc> john_s: yeah, proxydhcp is a good way to go with 1-nic server setups.
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| 21:06 | it's a lot easier than configuring a full DHCP server
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| 21:09 | <john_s> vagrantc: I don't see a lts-config dnsmasq command
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| 21:09 | vagrantc: sorry I don't see ltsp-config dnsmasq
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| 21:10 | <kev_j> vagrantc: no, it installed correctly, but it isn't doing anything... I think it is working on the main one because it uses nswrapperplugin, but I can't install it into the i386 chroot and from my understanding, which admittedly may be wrong, I shouldn't need the nswrapperplugin because it is for i386 stuff to work on 64 bit systems
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| 21:11 | <vagrantc> john_s: on ubuntu 12.04 ?
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| 21:13 | <john_s> vagrantc: correct. I see a link that says " Installing ltsp-server does not install tftpd-hpa" so perhaps that's an issues as well I am looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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| 21:13 | <vagrantc> oh wow... ltsp-config isn't in 12.04 ?
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| 21:14 | yeah, i guess it wasn't written until a month after 12.04 released...
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| 21:15 | <john_s> vagrantc: doesn't appear to be :-(
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| 21:15 | vagrantc: The link I referenced has a howto about dnsmasq configuration. I could try following that
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| 21:16 | vagrantc: I am not dead set on Ubuntu, it's just that I've never set up Debian with LTSP so I am generally unaware of how the two compare, any pointers there?
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| 21:17 | vagrantc: e.g. so far debian is what I run on our file servers etc, and ubuntu on our student facing side
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| 21:17 | <vagrantc> john_s: yeah, that link looks mostly right ... although i think the tftpd-hpa thing is silly, because dnsmasq can serve tftp too
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| 21:18 | though the instructions for adding ipappend are terrible.
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| 21:19 | it'll get overwritten every time networking goes up or down on the server...
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| 21:19 | john_s: alkisg has some newer packages for ltsp, too, which have the ltsp-config helper script that makes it a lot easier
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| 21:19 | !ppa
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| 21:19 | <ltsp> I do not know about 'ppa', but I do know about these similar topics: 'sbalneav-ppa', 'greek-schools-ppa'
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| 21:19 | <vagrantc> !greek-schools-ppa
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| 21:19 | <ltsp> greek-schools-ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/ppa/ supports LTS Ubuntu releases with newer LTSP versions, bug fixes etc
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| 21:20 | <vagrantc> if you wanted to experiment with that
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| 21:20 | john_s: or if you wanted to give Debian a go, it's due to release by May 5th, so shouldn't feel too obsolete.
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| 21:21 | <john_s> vagrantc: I would like to give debian a go. Would you say that the latest LTSP changes tend to get to Debian first? Or is this really an artifact of me following LTS releases?
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| 21:22 | <vagrantc> john_s: well, Debian releases are similar to ubuntu LTS releases
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| 21:23 | <vagrantc> john_s: so it depends on when you start using it
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| 21:24 | <john_s> vagrantc: ok, so additions to ltsp don't necessarily get backported into squeeze for example
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| 21:24 | <vagrantc> john_s: on a when i get around to it basis :)
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| 21:24 | john_s: there are some fairly current ltsp packages in backports.debian.org
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| 21:25 | john_s: but given wheezy release in a few days, i'd recommend that.
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| 21:25 | <john_s> vagrantc: Ok, what packages do you recommend I look for in the greek-schools-ppa once I 've added it to my repo?
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| 21:26 | <vagrantc> john_s: well, ltsp-server, ldm-server, and then use it to install the relevent ltsp* and ldm* packages in your chroot...
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| 21:27 | john_s: but i've never used it, so i can't say for sure
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| 21:27 | although if you're doing fatclients, i guess you wouldn't need ldm-server
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| 21:28 | <john_s> vagrantc: I haven'
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| 21:28 | vagrantc: I haven't used fat clients before, so fat it's been TC with local apps, but I've had fat clients recommended to me so I want to try it out
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| 21:28 | <vagrantc> kev_j: could you try it as a fatclient instead of a localapp?
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| 21:29 | unfortunately, localapps have a lot of issues ... in general i'd recommend fully thin clients or fully fat clients ...
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| 21:30 | on a case-by-case basis, localapps can make sense for some applications, as long as you need just that application, and no other applications running locally
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| 21:31 | <kev_j> it is actually working pretty well, and I think I am close to getting it working the way I want, it is just little quarks that are screwing with me
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| 21:32 | like I can work around acroread not opening in the browser, but it would make things significantly easier if I could get it to work
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| 21:33 | and I am definitely understanding more with the issue, but things like the nswrapperplugin thing are confusing
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| 22:09 | <kev_j> so I got it... for some reason when I installed mozilla-acroread it didn't make a symbolic link for nppdf.so
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| 22:09 | so "ln -s /usr/lib/Adobe/Reader9/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/" fixed that
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