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Channel log from 10 May 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:22 | <rcmysoft> helo, i have a 1000/100/10 Mbit Nic and 100/10 Switch which Cabel should i use for my LTSP Server. Cat5, Cat5e or Cat6? Thank you.
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| 10:37 | <jhaig|home> I have a problem with the graphics on a client. Moving the mouse causes interference on the screen - horizontal lines flashing at random. I guess this is due to incorrect X settings (refresh rates, etc), but what might I need to change?
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| 10:45 | <alkisg> jhaig|home: that's with the ancient S3's ?
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| 10:45 | <jhaig|home> It was detected as an s3virge
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| 10:46 | <alkisg> jhaig|home: I had the same problem in one of my labs: flickering because of the lab current, but worked fine at home. I had to work it in a lower resolution, i.e. instead of the native 1440x900@75Hz I had to work it at 1366x768@75 Hz.
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| 10:47 | If you change resolutions from the system > preferences menu, does the flickering go away?
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| 10:49 | <jhaig|home> Hmmm, I've just found another problem. The screen went blank (after a few minutes inactivity) and now it has come back but the keyboard and mouse don't work. :-/
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| 10:49 | <alkisg> Try changing VTs (Alt+Ctrl+F1 and then back to Alt+Ctrl+F7)
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| 10:50 | <jhaig|home> Didn't work. It is rebooting now.
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| 10:53 | This time it booted up in a much lower resolution - looks like 800x640.
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| 10:53 | and no flicker
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| 10:54 | 800x600. It doesn't give me an option for higher resolution.
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| 10:56 | <alkisg> Hmm? Why's that? Does it still use the s3virge driver?
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| 10:58 | <jhaig|home> Now I have just logged out and back in (ie, restarting X) and it has switched back to the higher resolution for the login screen. Then I logged it and it went back to 800x600 but gave me other options. 832x624 appears to be the highest I can get with no flicker.
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| 10:59 | <alkisg> Did you also try the different refresh rates (if you have any)?
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| 11:00 | <jhaig|home> It only gives me one option - 75Hz.
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| 11:00 | <alkisg> That's with a tft monitor, right?
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| 11:00 | <jhaig|home> Can I force that in the lts.conf?
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| 11:00 | Yes, it is a tft
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| 11:01 | although there is also a crt I can try.
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| 11:01 | <alkisg> Yes, but do you want to? You may damage the monitor if you send it an incorrect refresh rate. Rare, but can happen.
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| 11:01 | I bet there will be no flickering with the crt... (at least in my lab it wasn't, with 85Hz refresh rate)
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| 11:01 | <jhaig|home> It is saying the monitor is unknown, but presumably with the model type I can find the correct refresh rate from somewhere.
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| 11:06 | <alkisg> jhaig|home: to force the refresh rate, you set X_HORIZSYNC and X_VERTREFRESH, see the docs
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| 11:06 | !docs
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| 11:06 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
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| 11:07 | <alkisg> E.g. you may set X_VERTREFRESH=60-75
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| 11:08 | <jhaig|home> Thanks. First I'm trying the CRT. I think I switched to the TFT before I got the graphics working at all so perhaps it will be OK.
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| 11:09 | <jhaig|home> No, still flicker. I'll try setting X_VERTREFRESH
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| 11:10 | <alkisg> jhaig|home: which resolution/refresh rate did you try with the crt?
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| 11:10 | E.g. 1024x768@85 Hz?
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| 11:14 | <jhaig|home> I cannot remember. The login screen was whatever was detected, and there was flicker, but when I logged in it changed to the 800x600, which is now set for the user.
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| 11:16 | <alkisg> You may delete the default user resolution: rm ~/.config/monitors.xml
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| 11:32 | <jhaig|home> OK, after playing around with it a bit, I have found that 1024x768@60Hz works without flicker. Would this 60Hz be the vertical or horizontal refresh rate? It doesn't specify.
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| 13:38 | <hal14450> i would like some recommendations as to how powerful a server i should be using for ~10 clients the likely target for this setup will be a community center with client machines donated and hopefully the server as well.The intended audience will most likely be kids so i'd like a rough idea of what kind of resources i should expect to need on the server.
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| 13:40 | <knipwim> http://www.ltsp.org/~sbalneav/LTSPManual.html#requirements
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| 13:42 | <hal14450> knipwim, thanks i'll read that over but i'm also looking for some advice gleaned from real world experience
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| 13:51 | <knipwim> i got only 1 client :)
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| 13:59 | <alkisg1> knipwim: depends on what the kids will do :)
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| 13:59 | *sorry, hal14450 ^^^
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| 14:17 | <hal14450> alkisg, that's something i don't know just yet but i do have a starting point as a metric for now
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| 14:18 | <alkisg> hal14450: e.g. if they're going to watch youtube fullscreen or run windows apps with wine, you'll need a lot more powerful server than if they're just going to run openoffice... :)
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| 14:19 | <vagrantc> heh. and i always thought openoffice was a little on the brutal side :)
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| 14:20 | <alkisg> Really? I have very low CPU/bandwidth usage with swriter...
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| 14:27 | <vagrantc> maybe that's just my memories of the early days of diskless terminals at freegeek, where our powerful server was a PPRO 200MHz with 200MB of ram... :)
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| 14:27 | dual PPRO, that is
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| 14:27 | <alkisg> Wow... and the clients?
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| 14:28 | <vagrantc> alkisg: 486 and early pentiums
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| 14:29 | long time ago now ... but still, i remember staroffice bringing it to a halt
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| 14:29 | <alkisg> I didn't even know linux existed back in the 486 days :)
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| 14:29 | <vagrantc> pfft.
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| 14:29 | linux was written to take advantage of the featuers of the 386 processor, no?
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| 14:30 | <alkisg> Yeah, but back then the internet was almost non-existent in Greece
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| 14:30 | <vagrantc> fair enough
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| 14:31 | <alkisg> 200MHz / 200Mb RAM... Heh, that's about as powerful as my clients now :P
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| 14:32 | (worst one is 300MHz/64 RAM)
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| 16:41 | <vahnx> I just setup LTSP and it worked fine until I rebooted. Clients can no longer PXE boot into the LTSP server
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| 16:42 | sudo /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart doesn't fix it either
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| 16:43 | Ah, starting the dhcp3 server helped.
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