IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 5 April 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:34 | <alkisg> vagrantc: should we use pam_group to put localdev users to the fuse group, so that we don't bother with it server-side?
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| 04:35 | Ah sorry that wouldn't work, they need to be in the fuse group in the server too
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| 04:39 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i use pam_group server-side to do that :)
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| 04:40 | <alkisg> vagrantc: hm... maybe ltsp-config fuse then? :)
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| 04:42 | <vagrantc> i can't believe i didn't get NFS configuration into ltsp-config yet.
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| 04:43 | i should evaluate all the tweaks i do on LTSP servers to see if it would make sense for ltsp-config
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| 04:44 | <alkisg> vagrantc: do you have the /etc/security/groups.conf line handy?
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| 04:48 | <vagrantc> i've long been meaning to exploe update-pam for making those changes
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| 04:49 | <alkisg> pam-auth-update?
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| 04:53 | <vagrantc> alkisg: http://paste.debian.net/247441/
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| 04:54 | <alkisg> Thanks, I was missing the pamd./sshd bit
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| 07:45 | <naboo> hello, i'm tring to set up ltsp on slackware, when i run bzr branch lp:~ltsp-upstream/ldm/ldm-trunk command returns error: bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~ltsp-upstream/ldm/ldm-trunk": No such project: ldm
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| 07:45 | what can be wrong?
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| 07:47 | <alkisg> https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ldm-trunk
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| 07:47 | See the correct command there
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| 07:49 | <naboo> ok
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| 08:19 | <develo> http://ltsp.org/ down
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| 08:23 | <alkisg> jammcq: ^
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| 08:23 | Yeah that server has very frequent problems
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| 08:23 | (or the ISP)
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| 10:12 | <naboo> it seems that compile ltspfs is not possible while Makefile.in file doesn't exists after run autogen.sh
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| 10:13 | <alkisg> ltspfs might be replaced with sshfs in ltsp6
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| 10:14 | <naboo> i trying to build everything from bazaar
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| 10:15 | i'm stuck on ltspfs
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| 10:16 | <alkisg> ltsp worked, without ltspfs?
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| 10:17 | <naboo> ok i installed sshfs
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| 10:17 | alkisg, i don't know, i run ltsp years ego, and now i would like to run WYSE S10 thin clients
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| 10:18 | i will eat a barrel of salt :(
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| 10:18 | <alkisg> The clients aren't the problem; slackware is :)
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| 10:19 | You could very easily boot them with e.g. the latest debian wheezy
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| 10:20 | <naboo> i know :(
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| 10:20 | <alkisg> Porting ltsp to a new distro requires a few weeks of troubleshooting
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| 10:20 | <alkisg> If you can invest those to port ltsp to slackware, sure, go ahead, you'll find help here
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| 10:21 | Just don't expect to be done in 1 day
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| 10:21 | Btw you can also have a debian chroot in a slackware server, afaik, if it suits your purpose
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| 10:22 | <naboo> alkisg, can i install ltsp on 64 bit machine and run 36 bit clients?
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| 10:22 | <alkisg> Yup
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| 10:22 | (32)
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| 10:23 | <naboo> ok
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| 10:23 | i'll try with Slackware
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| 10:24 | i like Slack :-)
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| 10:24 | <alkisg> Sure, you may also become an ltsp slackware maintainer if you can code in shell
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| 10:24 | <naboo> i spend a lot of time to adjust to my Dell notebook
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| 10:24 | i can
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| 10:26 | for first i need to run ltsp on my machine
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| 10:33 | <alkisg> Yup, start with ltsp first, leave ltspfs for later
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| 10:34 | <naboo> ok
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| 10:34 | :)
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| 11:09 | <naboo> work_alkisg, script to create a clients directory structure is ltsp-build-client ?
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| 11:26 | <naboo> i think the documentation on http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Packaging is incomplete part Create basic Chroot
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| 11:27 | or i'm blind
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| 13:18 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 13:19 | <ogra_> !s
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| 13:19 | <ltsp> s: Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 13:19 | <sbalneav> Hey Ho ogra_!
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| 13:19 | <ogra_> :)
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| 13:43 | <yopla> hello there
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| 13:43 | i'd like to know if threre is some sort of mac-adrress pattern matching in lts.conf
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| 13:44 | haven't found this in man page
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| 13:50 | <sbalneav> No regexp matching I'm aware of.
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| 13:52 | <yopla> sbalneav: thank you. So what's the best way to have multiple client same config but different from default ?
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| 13:56 | <sbalneav> [client1]
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| 13:56 | config
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| 13:56 | [client2]
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| 13:56 | congig
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| 13:56 | etc.
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| 13:56 | I believe we also have a LIKE keyword.
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| 13:57 | <naboo> can i use ltsp-build-client on Slackware from Debian?
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| 13:58 | because from source script ltsp-build-client returns strange error
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| 13:59 | <vagrantc> that seems highly unlikely to work
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| 14:00 | LTSP requiers a fair amount of distro-specific coding...
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| 14:00 | since not all distros use the same tools to build a chroot environment, boot using the same initramfs systems (if they use an initramfs at all), and numerous other things
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| 14:00 | <naboo> LTSP 4.2 was simpler
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| 14:01 | <yopla> sbalneav: thank you. LIKE is somewhat better than copy paste.
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| 14:01 | <naboo> there was smart installer :(
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| 14:01 | <vagrantc> a lot more complicated for the developers
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| 14:01 | LTSP 4.2 was an entire linux distribution, not just a few small packages
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| 14:02 | naboo: you could build a chroot for a foreign distro and then run that as your LTSP environment on your slackware server
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| 14:02 | naboo: but really, it probably wouldn't be hard to add support for LTSP to slackware... but nobody's ever done it.
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| 14:02 | <naboo> i.e. debian in chroot?
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| 14:03 | that is silly :P
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| 14:03 | vagrantc, i'll try
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| 14:03 | <vagrantc> no less silly than running ltsp-build-client from debian and expecting it to work
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| 14:04 | <naboo> vagrantc, that was only question to smarter than i
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| 14:05 | so what reason could be for /usr/share/ltsp/plugins/ltsp-build-client/common/010-etc-hosts: line 3: /opt/ltsp/amd64/etc/hosts: there is no file (or something like that)
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| 14:06 | vagrantc, but file /usr/share/ltsp/pl.... there is
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| 14:06 | vagrantc, if i figure out how to run LTSP on Slackware I will write how to on this
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| 14:07 | <vagrantc> naboo: well, we'll want to integrate your code upstream, if you figure that out.
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| 14:07 | naboo: sounds like it didn't create a chroot, which should include /etc/hosts.
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| 14:08 | naboo: is /opt/ltsp/amd64 present?
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| 14:08 | <naboo> vagrantc, yes
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| 14:08 | <vagrantc> naboo: and is /opt/ltsp/amd64/etc/hosts present?
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| 14:09 | <naboo> there is no /opt/ltsp/amd64/etc directory present
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| 14:09 | <vagrantc> seems like you skipped creating a chroot, then.
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| 14:09 | <naboo> vagrantc, i think that maby problem i
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| 14:09 | vagrantc, in creating directory or, as u said before chroot
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| 14:09 | <vagrantc> naboo: are you running ltsp-build-client on slackware? did you create plugins to do all the distro-specific things?
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| 14:10 | <naboo> vagrantc, yes a running ltsp-build-client on Slackware
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| 14:10 | <vagrantc> naboo: you'll need files in /usr/share/ltsp/plugins/ltsp-build-client/Slackware that include similar functionality to what the other distros do.
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| 14:10 | <vagrantc> naboo: how do you create a chroot on slackware?
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| 14:10 | naboo: that would be step 1.
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| 14:10 | <naboo> vagrantc, ok, this is very helpful i try
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| 14:10 | <yopla> I've just tested LTSP on latest intel NUC celeron mini PC. This rocks with hdmi monitor. The cheapiest i've found for thinclient + monitor. They could be fat too \o/
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| 14:11 | <naboo> vagrantc, i think that ltsp-build-client is more magically than it is
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| 14:11 | <vagrantc> naboo: what is the output from: lsb_release --short --id
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| 14:12 | naboo: it's no magic, just a few lines of code :)
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| 14:12 | <naboo> vagrantc, n/a
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| 14:12 | vagrantc, i thought*
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| 14:13 | <vagrantc> naboo: you'll need to figure out a way to detect that you're running on slackware ... do you have the appropriate lsb packages installed?
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| 14:13 | <naboo> vagrantc, i installed lsb_release from source
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| 14:13 | <naboo> vagrantc, from here http://sourceforge.net/projects/lsb/?source=dlp
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| 14:14 | <vagrantc> naboo: you'll have to figure out how to get it to report your distro
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| 14:14 | <naboo> vagrantc, and some stuff from here http://www.linuxfoundation.org/
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| 14:14 | vagrantc, ok
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| 14:14 | <vagrantc> so, i guess the first step is figure out you're running on Slackware in a way that ltsp-build-client can detect it :)
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| 14:15 | <naboo> vagrantc, i'll do that :)
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| 14:17 | <vagrantc> if you want to cheat, create /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-server-vendor-functions: detect_vendor(){ echo Slackware; }
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| 14:18 | <vagrantc> there's a special place in my heart for Slackware, given that the first thin client system i wrote was initially based on slackware.
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| 14:18 | though, that was... 12-13 years ago?
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| 14:18 | <naboo> vagrantc, wow!
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| 14:18 | vagrantc, what distro u using now?
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| 14:19 | <vagrantc> Debian, since about 11-12 years
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| 14:19 | so i don't know what slackware looks like today... heard it hasn't changed a lot
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| 14:19 | <naboo> vagrantc, i like Debian, but Slackware force me to think, more than other distros
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| 14:19 | <yopla> Slackware was my first 5 CDROM pack for my pentium 1 75
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| 14:20 | <naboo> vagrantc, i have Debian in my VirtualBox environment :)
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| 14:20 | <vagrantc> i hear arch is good for forcing you to learn everything...
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| 14:22 | <yopla> it took me 1 week to make my LPT deskjet work in color. ^^
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| 14:23 | <naboo> vagrantc, yes but Slackware is also far from simple :) and Slackware is very old, in my opinion this is advantage
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| 14:47 | <naboo> vagrantc, it is good idea to install debian in chroot via debootstrap :-)
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| 14:48 | vagrantc, i think
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| 14:57 | <vagrantc> might be
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| 14:59 | <naboo> i'll try
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| 22:11 | <gbaman> vagrantc: i am sure you hate me now :)
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| 22:11 | but here goes
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| 22:11 | it sort of worked! the normalish fat client mode
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| 22:12 | it grabbed the os from the server then hit ldm and seemed to fail to load it, constantly looping round with the failed to find pci error
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| 22:13 | did your test work right up to and past login?
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| 22:15 | * gbaman pokes vagrantc a bit with a big stick | |
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| 22:33 | * vagrantc waves to gbaman, who isn't here | |
| 22:33 | <vagrantc> but the answer is, yes, my fat client worked fine.
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| 22:34 | * jammcq waves to vagrantc | |
| 22:35 | * vagrantc waves | |
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