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Channel log from 5 August 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:42 | <capetown> Hello Anybody! Is it possible to turn my Jaunty desktop into a LTSP server?
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| 03:43 | <ball> capetown: I think we're supposed to use the alternate install CD
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| 03:43 | I've just burned one, but I need to back up my home directory before I try that.
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| 03:48 | <capetown> ball: I thought that the alternate CD was for a new install. I am concerned about all the programs I have already installed on my desktop that I want to make availible to thin client without having to do a fresh install. I don't want to have to download them all again! Is it *easy* to copy an installed program in ubuntu to another ubuntu pc for instance - in this case from my current Jaunty desktop to an fresh jaunty (alternate Cd) LTSP inst
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| 03:49 | <Ryan52> capetown: you don't need the alternate CD.
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| 03:49 | capetown: you should just be able to install the packages, build the chroot, do a bit of config on the services and be good to go.
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| 03:49 | <ball> Ryan52: I can add ltsp to an existing Jaunty box?
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| 03:49 | <Ryan52> yes.
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| 03:49 | <ball> Is it easier to reinstall?
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| 03:50 | <Ryan52> probably after having to backup your files and reinstall everything, no.
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| 03:50 | <capetown> Ryan52: If I can add LTSP to existing Jaunty Desktop (which is a dual core 2.5GHz and 1GB ram) then where do I start! :-)
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| 03:51 | <Ryan52> apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone
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| 03:51 | ltsp-build-client
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| 03:52 | <capetown> can I isntall packages from synaptic? like ltsp-server and ltsp-client.... ?
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| 03:53 | <ball> I'll have to rewire my LAN to try this, but I'm up for it.
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| 03:54 | <Ryan52> capetown: no, don't install anything ltsp-client
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| 03:54 | capetown: those are for in the chroot only.
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| 03:54 | capetown: but yes, you can install them from synaptic. install ltsp-server-standalone.
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| 03:54 | capetown: then run ltsp-build-client in a terminal.
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| 03:55 | <capetown> Ryan52: Okay, I will "apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone" and then "ltsp-build-client" ...
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| 03:55 | <Ryan52> if you aren't using synaptic, then yes.
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| 03:55 | if you are and you install , you can skip the apt-get part.
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| 03:57 | <capetown> Okay, I would like to use synaptic and install "ltsp-server-standalone". Will my desktop carry on as usual but now I will have the ability to allow thin clients to connect to it?
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| 04:05 | <capetown> Okay, I have installed via Synaptic, "ltsp-server-standalone". Do anyone know how I get it (the service?) started and then connect my first terminal?
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| 04:06 | <ball> capetown: do you have a separate LAN interface for your terminals?
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| 04:09 | capetown: I'm wondering if ltsp will clash with an existing DHCP server on your LAN otherwise
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| 04:09 | Ah, Ryan52's gone.
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| 04:10 | <capetown> The NIC is on the Motherboard. I can add another NIC to PCI slot... I didn't know that I need a separate NIC. Is the LTSP a separate network then...
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| 04:11 | My ADSL modem provides DHCP currently.
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| 04:11 | But I hear what you are saying about DHCP clash.
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| 04:12 | <ball> You may not /need/ a second NIC, but it may be the path of least resistance.
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| 04:12 | <capetown> If I have two nics then NIC two will provide DHCP for all the terminals... ?
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| 04:12 | <ball> ...easier than trying to get two DHCP servers to play nicely.
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| 04:13 | capetown: Hopefully someone here knows a way to configure ltsp to service terminals on one specific interface.
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| 04:13 | ...without interfering with your existing LAN
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| 04:13 | <capetown> Do you know what command is used to configue the "server" ?
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| 04:14 | <ball> Absolutely no idea, sorry.
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| 04:14 | <capetown> ball think that I will go ahead and read through the howto on ubuntu jaunty LTSP and go from there....
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| 04:15 | <ball> ok
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| 04:15 | Let me know what you find out. I have to do this too.
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| 05:45 | <garymc> Hi, I want to instal K12Ltsp on my Hp Proliant servers
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| 05:46 | Problem is I want the 64 bit version but the download is 900mb
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| 05:46 | Now I have to burn that to DVD
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| 05:46 | but my servers only have CD players
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| 05:46 | is there a solution?
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| 05:58 | <knipwim> garymc: put the dvd burner in your server
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| 05:58 | <garymc> I need to
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| 05:58 | my server is slim line
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| 05:58 | so will prob have to buy one
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| 05:58 | What about a net install of Fedora 10
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| 05:58 | <knipwim> or netboot the dvd
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| 05:58 | <garymc> then add the ltsp later? is this possible
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| 05:59 | <knipwim> i don't know
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| 06:00 | i guess you can install the ltsp-server later
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| 06:16 | <garymc> Knipwim: could I use the dvd form my laptop somehow?
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| 06:16 | to boot the server?
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| 06:18 | <moldy> you can always add ltsp later
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| 06:18 | <garymc> What does net booting a dvd entai?
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| 06:18 | <moldy> if you want a really good integration with your distribution, chose ubuntu
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| 06:19 | <garymc> I think I have a portable dvd player for comps somwhere
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| 06:19 | how would I connect it to my server? Ethernet?
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| 06:20 | <moldy> garymc: are you sure you want to use k12ltsp?
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| 06:20 | garymc: or are you talking about k12linux?
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| 06:20 | <garymc> yes
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| 06:21 | Im running an intranet in my office and is the only product i could get to work on a test station
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| 06:21 | <moldy> "yes" to which question? :)
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| 06:21 | <garymc> So now I bought some HP proliant servers
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| 06:21 | k12Linux : YES
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| 06:21 | <moldy> ok
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| 06:21 | you have fedora installed on the proliants already?
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| 06:22 | <garymc> nope
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| 06:22 | Im trying the 64 bit version of FED 10 now but I it says my chipset is i386
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| 06:22 | <moldy> is fedora a must? if not, i suggest you try the current stable ubuntu
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| 06:22 | <garymc> is that not good enough
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| 06:22 | <garymc> Why ubuntu
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| 06:22 | <moldy> garymc: ubuntu has the best ltsp integration
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| 06:22 | <garymc> I dont want a server running websites or nothing
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| 06:23 | it does?
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| 06:23 | <moldy> yes
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| 06:23 | <garymc> Is it easier to setup?
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| 06:23 | <moldy> if the main purpose of those servers is LTSP, ubuntu is probably the best choice as a distribution
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| 06:23 | <garymc> is ubuntu free?
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| 06:23 | <moldy> yes, it is
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| 06:23 | <garymc> ahh
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| 06:23 | ok, i need a 32 bit netinstall
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| 06:24 | <moldy> your servers are not 64 bit?
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| 06:24 | <garymc> what version of ubuntu
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| 06:24 | <moldy> 9.04
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| 06:24 | <garymc> they mustnt be
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| 06:24 | cos im trying to install a 64 bit and it says no
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| 06:24 | they are second hand servers
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| 06:24 | dl380 g3
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| 06:24 | hp proliants
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| 06:25 | is that bad?
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| 06:25 | <moldy> no
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| 06:25 | but i think those should have 64 bit cpus
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| 06:26 | <garymc> hmmm
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| 06:26 | <moldy> not 100% sure
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| 06:26 | anyway, 32 bit should be fine, too
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| 06:27 | if i were you, i'd install ubuntu 9.04, then follow the ubuntu documentation on installing ltsp
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| 06:28 | <nubae> no need for 64 bit...
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| 06:28 | just brings problems
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| 06:29 | and I have hp proliant servers... same model as you... they work great with ubuntu
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| 06:29 | <garymc> so they arnt 64bit?
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| 06:30 | it says they are i686 not x86-64
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| 06:30 | <moldy> what is "it"?
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| 06:30 | <garymc> so you reckon UBUNTU 9.04
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| 06:30 | <moldy> anyway, nubae is right, you probably don't *want* to install a 64 bit os.
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| 06:30 | <nubae> yes they are 64 bit, but u dont need to run 64 bit
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| 06:31 | <garymc> ok
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| 06:31 | <cyberorg> garymc, also try http://en.opensuse.org/Education/Live
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| 06:31 | <garymc> cool im just trying to find ubuntu net install iso
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| 06:31 | <nubae> just use server- kernel
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| 06:31 | <cyberorg> that is the best ltsp implementation in my biased opinion ;)
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| 06:31 | <nubae> yah, or opensuse... works great too
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| 06:32 | <moldy> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-server
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| 06:32 | <garymc> where would i find it
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| 06:32 | ok
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| 06:32 | <nubae> u need to download alternate cd
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| 06:33 | <garymc> can i just donwload a netinstall iso?
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| 06:33 | <moldy> hm, why does he need the alternate cd?
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| 06:33 | <nubae> so he can hit F4 and install LTSP directly
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| 06:34 | <moldy> ah. i usually just aptitude-install it after installing base ubuntu
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| 06:34 | <garymc> right guys im lost on what i need
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| 06:35 | <moldy> i don't think it really matters
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| 06:35 | any 9.04 32-bit ubuntu should be fine
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| 06:35 | <garymc> im looking at loads of differnt downloads
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| 06:35 | i just want a netinstall
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| 06:35 | <moldy> you probably want to use a "server" kernel so you can use more memory, but you can easily change that after installation
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| 06:36 | http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-server, chose 32-bit, chose location, go
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| 06:36 | <garymc> so ubunto 9.04 or 8.04 lts server
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| 06:37 | <moldy> use 9.04
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| 06:37 | the ubuntu website sucks, hard to find stuff
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| 06:38 | <garymc> cool im donwloading
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| 06:38 | <moldy> normal cd: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-i386.iso
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| 06:38 | alternate cd: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso
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| 06:38 | <garymc> will my server need to be connected to the internet for this to install correctly?
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| 06:38 | <moldy> you might want to use the alternate cd if you want lvm/raid
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| 06:38 | <nubae> probably yeah
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| 06:38 | <garymc> i use both of them?
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| 06:38 | <moldy> no, chose one
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| 06:39 | i don't think you need internet connection, but it's better if you have one
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| 06:39 | <garymc> im downloading the first one now
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| 06:40 | im gonna sound daft here but what is LVM/raid - I think raid is how the hard drives work?
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| 06:43 | <moldy> yes
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| 06:43 | look at wikipedia
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| 06:44 | there are several forms of raid, so it takes rather long to explain, easier to just read the wikipedia article ;)
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| 06:45 | basically, raid can offer a) better performance or b) prevent your server from going down if a hard disk fails
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| 06:45 | it's often nice to havem but if you're just getting started, you might not want to care about it
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| 06:47 | <rinovan> how about sis900, ltsp hang at boot?
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| 07:00 | <pmatulis> with ubuntu 9.04, should a thin client be able to boot up fine using a projector as its display?
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| 07:01 | <nubae> sure
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| 07:39 | <garymc> god damn, i just downloaded ubuntu 9.04 and it aint booting up in my server :(
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| 07:41 | could i have writen it to a dodgey cd-rw?
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| 07:54 | <ogra> hmm, no vagrantc
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| 08:01 | <garymc> I burnt ubuntu to another cd-rw has booted up now
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| 08:02 | Thanks I will let you know how I get on
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| 08:11 | <Blinny> _UsUrPeR_: 64-bit flash is working quite nicely, thank you. I notice a definite speedup now that nspluginwrapper isn't a part of the mix. Also, no reports of any crashes yet. Appreciate the help.
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| 08:20 | <_UsUrPeR_> blinny: no problem. I had to write that script after I killed myself trying to find the proper 64-bit download
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| 08:20 | adobe's site is awful :)
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| 08:20 | <garymc> root
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| 08:20 | <Blinny> Yes, it is!
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| 08:21 | <garymc> moldy: I have installed and rebooted, it puts me at a command prompt
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| 08:21 | not like k12linux
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| 08:22 | now i dont know how the hell i get ltsp on here and working so thin clients boot with a gui
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| 08:23 | PLEASE HELP!
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| 08:24 | <garymc> anyone know how I get Ltsp to work from ubuntu prompt?
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| 08:24 | everyone must be away then.....?
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| 08:35 | <garymc> Look guys i dont understand ubuntu
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| 08:35 | It took me 2 weeks to figure out the k12linux setup so i got no chance with this
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| 08:42 | <_UsUrPeR_> garymc: sorry
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| 08:42 | I'll help you out
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| 08:42 | what version of Ubuntu are you installing?
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| 08:42 | <garymc> cheers
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| 08:42 | ive just installed 9.04
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| 08:42 | im at a command prompt now
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| 08:42 | <_UsUrPeR_> did you install the desktop version?
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| 08:43 | <garymc> server version
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| 08:43 | <_UsUrPeR_> is that x64 or i386?
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| 08:43 | <garymc> i386
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| 08:43 | <_UsUrPeR_> ok
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| 08:43 | how many NICs do you have on that server?
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| 08:43 | <garymc> 2
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| 08:43 | <_UsUrPeR_> great!
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| 08:44 | <garymc> eht0 and eth1
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| 08:44 | <_UsUrPeR_> lastly: did you use the alternate ubuntu installation CD, or the normal server version?
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| 08:44 | <garymc> normal
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| 08:44 | didnt know which one to use
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| 08:44 | <_UsUrPeR_> ok
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| 08:44 | <garymc> or how i would get the alternate
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| 08:44 | <_UsUrPeR_> I *highly* recommend the alternate installation. I'll get you a link in a moment
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| 08:44 | <garymc> ok
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| 08:45 | <bieb> yeah the alternate Cd works great
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| 08:45 | <garymc> fastest link possible takes ages to download
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| 08:45 | ;)
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| 08:45 | <_UsUrPeR_> where are you located?
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| 08:45 | * _UsUrPeR_ needs the country so I can get you a quick download speed | |
| 08:45 | <garymc> Uk
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| 08:45 | <_UsUrPeR_> k
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| 08:45 | <bieb> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate you can get the torrent here
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| 08:46 | <garymc> how would i know if i downloaded the alternate or not
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| 08:46 | <_UsUrPeR_> I should have recognized that with the "cheers" up there :)
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| 08:46 | you would know because there is no "server" alternate installation
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| 08:46 | trust me: it's totally worth it though
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| 08:47 | here's the link to the University of Kent: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso
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| 08:47 | that should, hopefully, be a quick download
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| 08:47 | the installation process for the alternate LTSP installation should be as follows:
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| 08:47 | <bieb> garymc: 64bit or 32bit?
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| 08:47 | <garymc> hold on a sec
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| 08:47 | <_UsUrPeR_> he was looking for i386
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| 08:47 | garymc: ok
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| 08:48 | <garymc> that link you gave me is 27kb and my leecher wont open it?
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| 08:48 | <_UsUrPeR_> hmm
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| 08:48 | <bieb> _UsUrPeR_: cool.. I know yesterday he was looking for the 64bit Fedora installer
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| 08:48 | <_UsUrPeR_> garymc: that's the direct link to the .iso file. it should be 680~ megs
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| 08:48 | <garymc> no its a torrent file
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| 08:49 | <bieb> garymc: go with the link _UsUrPeR_ sent you.. not mine
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| 08:49 | <_UsUrPeR_> that was bieb that sent you the torrent
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| 08:49 | http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso
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| 08:49 | go there ^^^
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| 08:49 | <garymc> ahh sorry
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| 08:49 | <_UsUrPeR_> ok, so when you are installing
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| 08:50 | <garymc> yes
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| 08:50 | <_UsUrPeR_> when you boot the CD, the first thing you will do is select your language (obviously English)
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| 08:50 | <garymc> 1% downloaded :(
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| 08:50 | <_UsUrPeR_> next, you will need to change the installation type by hitting F4
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| 08:51 | that will take you to a drop-down menu. In there, SELECT THE LTSP INSTALLATION
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| 08:51 | <garymc> ok
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| 08:51 | <_UsUrPeR_> after that's selected, press enter on "install ubuntu"
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| 08:51 | <Blinny> I second the notion that it's worth the wait.
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| 08:51 | <_UsUrPeR_> that will take you to a text menu, where you can continue the installation process
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| 08:53 | <garymc> will i end up at a command propmt?
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| 08:53 | or in a gui?
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| 08:54 | once all is installed?
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| 08:54 | 10% downloaded :S
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| 08:54 | <bieb> gui
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| 08:55 | <garymc> ok even though its a rack server im installing on will i beable to unplug monitor from server etc
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| 08:55 | and hook into it through the ethernet switch?
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| 08:55 | <bieb> yeah as long as you enable remote desktop
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| 08:57 | <_UsUrPeR_> garymc: the server will always be running ssh for incoming connection
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| 08:57 | <garymc> ok, ill ask about that once i get it installed
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| 08:57 | ok but it wont need the monitor connected or nothing just the ethernet to internet and switch
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| 09:01 | <_UsUrPeR_> garymc: correct
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| 09:47 | <garymc> you the alternate is 714mb big
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| 09:47 | my cd-rw are only 700mb
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| 09:48 | my servers have only cd readers
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| 09:48 | not *you buy *YO
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| 09:48 | ????
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| 09:49 | <bieb> it will install to a regular Cd.. I have done it multiple times
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| 09:49 | install = burn
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| 09:50 | <_UsUrPeR_> garymc: the file should have only been 697 megs...
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| 09:51 | <garymc> hmmm well its burning
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| 09:51 | but my comp says its 714mb?
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| 09:51 | this is WinXp though
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| 09:51 | <_UsUrPeR_> doesn't seem correct...
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| 09:51 | weird
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| 09:51 | <garymc> if it burns to the cd then it aint over 700mb
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| 09:51 | <_UsUrPeR_> maybe WinXP goes by the conservatism method of data accounting
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| 09:52 | <garymc> says its burnt ok
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| 09:52 | * _UsUrPeR_ just finished an accounting class yesterday, and can't get the terminology out of his head | |
| 09:52 | <garymc> now to fire it up in the cd
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| 09:52 | <_UsUrPeR_> there you go
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| 09:52 | remember to hit F4 and change the installation type to LTSP standalone server
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| 09:53 | <garymc> these servers are quite loud lol
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| 09:53 | i hit f4 after language choice
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| 09:53 | <_UsUrPeR_> yeah, rackmounts are normally loaded with high-rpm fans :)
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| 09:53 | correct
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| 09:53 | after lanuage choice
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| 09:54 | <garymc> yeah loads of fans lol
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| 09:55 | i selected instal ltsp, now do i need to click install?
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| 09:55 | <bieb> yep
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| 09:55 | <garymc> what does check discs for defects do etc
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| 09:55 | should I test memory too?
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| 09:56 | <bieb> I usually skip those 2
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| 09:56 | unless you have a problem with the install
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| 09:57 | <garymc> ok its away
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| 09:58 | a quick question about my server, its a hp proliant and there is another ethernet port on the back labled iLO what is this?
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| 09:59 | that would make 3 ethernet ports
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| 09:59 | <knipwim> maybe a serial port?
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| 09:59 | <bieb> I think the iLO port is a management port.. not ethernet..
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| 09:59 | <garymc> ok
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| 10:00 | <bieb> I would look up the model on HP's site and see what info they give on it
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| 10:00 | <knipwim> http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/management/ilo/
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| 10:00 | <bieb> knipwim: LOL... I was just going to post that
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| 10:00 | <garymc> Setup is asking Partitioning method: GUIDED - use entire disc, Guided - use entire and setup LVM or encypted LVM?
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| 10:00 | <bieb> your giggle was faster than mine
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| 10:00 | guided use entire
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| 10:01 | <garymc> ok
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| 10:02 | im gonna have to put my rack system in another room lol
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| 10:02 | I bought 3 of these servers
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| 10:02 | <knipwim> certainly not in your bedroom :)
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| 10:02 | <garymc> I was hoping to use one as a Asterisk phone system
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| 10:02 | Not unless im wayne Rooney and i cant sleep without the hoover on ;)
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| 10:04 | partion formatting taking a wee while, must be cos of 4 72gb scsi?
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| 10:04 | where are you all from by the way?
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| 10:09 | Wow this partioning formatting is taking some time, cant remember how long it took before?
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| 10:09 | ill go make a cup of tea :) anyone want one?
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| 10:10 | <bieb> Georgia, USA here
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| 10:10 | <garymc> cool
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| 10:10 | was in New York last month, a little far off I know but was my first trip to the states
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| 10:11 | Liverpool Uk me
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| 10:11 | <bieb> cool.
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| 10:11 | <knipwim> the hague, netherlands
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| 10:11 | <garymc> nice i love holland
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| 10:11 | Rotterdam and amsterdam my 2 faves
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| 10:11 | havnt been for a few years though
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| 10:12 | <knipwim> i live right in the middle
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| 10:12 | <garymc> Loved it when i used to smoke pot
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| 10:12 | ;)
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| 10:12 | those days are long over
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| 10:12 | 3 years infact
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| 10:12 | <knipwim> well done
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| 10:13 | <garymc> These partion formatting is taking ages, is this normal?
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| 10:13 | knipwim: Thanks ;)
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| 10:13 | time for a cuppa
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| 10:14 | one of my drives has a red/orange light with a cross through it
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| 10:14 | is it busted?
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| 10:15 | <knipwim> hmm, your dvd drive?
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| 10:19 | <_UsUrPeR_> garymc: if that's a RAID drive, the HDD is probably bad
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| 10:19 | <garymc> no I got 4 hot plug scsi drives 3 with green flashing lights and one with a orange box with x through it
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| 10:20 | and my screen is still sitting on formatting section
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| 10:21 | <garymc> do you think it has locked?
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| 10:21 | should I switch off and swap the drive in question?
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| 10:21 | <_UsUrPeR_> naw
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| 10:21 | that takes a while
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| 10:21 | it has to download and create a ltsp image
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| 10:22 | <garymc> but its sitting on the Partition formatting bit 33% for ages now
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| 10:23 | <garymc> ?
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| 10:24 | <_UsUrPeR_> what time is it over there?
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| 10:25 | <garymc> 23 mins past 4 in afternoon
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| 10:25 | you?
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| 10:25 | <_UsUrPeR_> maybe some patience may be in order. go grab dinner or something :)
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| 10:25 | you're 5 hours ahead of me
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| 10:25 | you're at GMT right?
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| 10:25 | <garymc> well im not hungary and im sure when i did the last one before this it didnt take this long
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| 10:25 | yep
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| 10:26 | GMT or BST i think we are BST now until october we will be GMT again
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| 10:26 | stupid i know
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| 10:26 | <_UsUrPeR_> BST?
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| 10:26 | It's possible that your drive has failed. Though that would be quite sad.
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| 10:26 | <garymc> if one drive fails, will the system halt
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| 10:26 | ?
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| 10:27 | <_UsUrPeR_> not if it's on a hardware RAID
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| 10:27 | unless it's striped...
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| 10:27 | <garymc> i dont think they are raid
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| 10:27 | <bieb> It would halt during the format process.. since it is trying to format it.. until it decided this is futile
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| 10:27 | <garymc> who decides its futile me or the server?
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| 10:27 | * _UsUrPeR_ is not sure. Go with bieb's answer :) | |
| 10:28 | <_UsUrPeR_> garymc: ultimately you :)
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| 10:28 | <garymc> i think its futile and i need to shut down and remove drive in question and start aGAIN
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| 10:28 | <_UsUrPeR_> just remember: suicide should never be an option.
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| 10:28 | <_UsUrPeR_> err... were we discussing futility pertaining to the hard drive?
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| 10:28 | <garymc> i could be waiting hours before i decide to reboot and start over
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| 10:29 | <bieb> garymc: since it is a hot swap... just shutdown.. pop it out and re run installation
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| 10:29 | <_UsUrPeR_> garymc: yeah. maybe you should reboot and check the hard drive
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| 10:29 | <garymc> ok cool
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| 10:29 | ill do now
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| 10:32 | should i select F2 continue without recovery of data to HDD
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| 10:32 | damn missed it
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| 10:32 | <bieb> f4
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| 10:32 | start from scratch
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| 10:32 | <garymc> it was a bios thing
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| 10:32 | <bieb> ohhh
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| 10:32 | my bad
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| 10:32 | <garymc> lol never mind
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| 10:35 | right im getting a differnt partioning method
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| 10:35 | 3 same as before or
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| 10:35 | Guided Resize SCSI.CCISS (-0,0), partition #5
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| 10:35 | should i use entire disk one again?
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| 10:36 | <bieb> use entire again
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| 10:36 | pretend we didnt do this already.. :)
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| 10:36 | <garymc> ok
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| 10:36 | :)
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| 10:36 | ok back to where we was
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| 10:36 | time is 16:35
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| 10:36 | 33% partition formatting
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| 10:37 | ok im off for 10 mins or soo all green lights on the scsi bays
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| 10:47 | <denisesballs> hey guys, i'm confused where default gconf setting for new users are from. is there somewhere to set global gconf values? or is the .gconf folder created when the user is created similar to the other user dirs?
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| 10:48 | looking at this, but it doesnt actually tell you where to set them...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/GnomeOptimize
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| 10:52 | <garymc> 15 mins sitting on the partition formatting
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| 10:58 | <bieb> garymc: still at 33%??
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| 10:58 | <garymc> yep
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| 10:59 | <bieb> hmmm
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| 10:59 | <garymc> it does this then you dont see any other percentage and its done
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| 10:59 | but its just sitting there
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| 10:59 | <bieb> ok
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| 10:59 | when it finishes... what happens?
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| 10:59 | <garymc> the hard drive green lights are all flashing stiil
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| 10:59 | <bieb> ok.. I would just leave it
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| 10:59 | <garymc> It asks about further installation stuff
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| 11:00 | but normally quicker than this
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| 11:00 | ??? infact when i installed the ubuntu server disk earlier i put guided LVm when i was selecting formatting
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| 11:01 | seemed to do it quicker or maybe didnt do it properly?
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| 11:04 | <bieb> not sure why
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| 11:04 | <garymc> me either
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| 11:05 | what if they are raids? will it stall on the option ive picked?
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| 11:05 | <bieb> nope
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| 11:05 | I have a raid that I installed to
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| 11:07 | <garymc> 30 mins now still 33% :(
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| 11:08 | WOOO HOOO
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| 11:08 | installing base system
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| 11:09 | <bieb> see... patience
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| 11:09 | <garymc> ;)
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| 11:09 | Just got a warning
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| 11:09 | RED SCREEN
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| 11:10 | Warning: file:///cd-rom/pool/main/f/file/file_4.26-2ubuntu3_i386.deb was corrupt
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| 11:10 | go back or continue
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| 11:10 | ???
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| 11:10 | What should i do here?
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| 11:10 | <bieb> continue.. see if you get anymore
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| 11:10 | <garymc> Sorry, DEBOOTSTRAP WARNING
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| 11:11 | <epsas> clean the disc
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| 11:11 | <garymc> Could not download package file
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| 11:11 | <epsas> ahh
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| 11:11 | <garymc> that was after i pressed continue
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| 11:11 | now go back or continue again
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| 11:12 | Should I go back? or Continue again?
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| 11:12 | maybe i should go back
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| 11:12 | <bieb> try continue.. worse that happens is you have to reinstall
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| 11:13 | <garymc> another one another corrupt file
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| 11:13 | <bieb> ok...
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| 11:13 | <garymc> cant download package libmagic now
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| 11:14 | <bieb> there are 2 things... like epsas said.. shutdown and clean disk.... and/or
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| 11:14 | <garymc> or....
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| 11:14 | <bieb> burn another CD at a slower speed... I had this with a coworker.. I had to burn his CD at 16 or 24 speed
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| 11:14 | <garymc> I burnt it at 10X
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| 11:15 | i can burn it at 4X
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| 11:15 | <bieb> you can try that..
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| 11:15 | also clean the exisitng CD
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| 11:15 | <garymc> will i have to format again?
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| 11:15 | can i clean the existing one now?
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| 11:15 | while machine still on?
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| 11:15 | <bieb> yeah
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| 11:15 | I dont think the installer will unmount the Cd
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| 11:16 | when you reinstall.. you can take the existing partitions
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| 11:16 | also.. when you run the installation again.. run the CD check that we skipped previously
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| 11:17 | <garymc> ok so turn off the machine now?
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| 11:17 | <bieb> yep
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| 11:17 | <garymc> what about that bios thing i got before
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| 11:17 | will i get that do you reckon
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| 11:18 | <bieb> not sure... you may not because you arent removing a hard drive
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| 11:18 | <garymc> ok
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| 11:18 | cool
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| 11:18 | ill turn off now
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| 11:18 | and wait for new cd to burn
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| 11:19 | <bieb> ok
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| 11:38 | <garymc> looking at the disc i was trying to use and hardly nothing was burnt onto it, looking at new burn whole disc is used
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| 11:41 | how do i use same partitions?
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| 11:42 | ok it hasnt asked no partiotion stuff yet
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| 11:42 | seems to be installing
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| 11:43 | <_UsUrPeR_> cool
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| 11:44 | <garymc> i dont know what option to use on the partion choices
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| 11:45 | help
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| 11:46 | _UsUrPeR_ i dont knwo what partition option to take
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| 11:46 | <_UsUrPeR_> guided - use entire disk
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| 11:47 | <garymc> i dont want to do the formatting again
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| 11:48 | bieb: how do i install without re formatting
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| 11:48 | <_UsUrPeR_> oh. don't know what to say there. If you do a manual partition, you can just assign the partitions properly
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| 11:48 | just take the lrgest partition (ifit was layed out properly) and use ext3 for it, mount with "/"
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| 11:49 | assign a swap partition
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| 11:49 | and that should be about it
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| 11:49 | if you are installing over an old partition, that should work
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| 11:49 | but you may have to re-format anyway
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| 11:49 | the installer, if I recall, requires formatting of the partitions
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| 11:50 | <garymc> no root file system is defined
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| 11:50 | <Lns> reinstall w/out formatting root filesystem? that's like...windows =p
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| 11:52 | <garymc> No root file system is defined Please correct this from the partioning menu
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| 11:53 | how do i sort this root file thingy?
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| 11:53 | i cant get past it no matter what
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| 11:54 | <_UsUrPeR_> you need to assign a partition the root directory
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| 11:54 | find the largest partition, and put down "/" as the mount point
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| 11:54 | <garymc> i done it
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| 11:54 | ;)
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| 11:54 | installing the base system
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| 11:55 | yeaah 3 hours later and im getting somewhere
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| 11:55 | <bieb> garymc: sorry was away from my desk... everything going ok now?
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| 11:56 | <garymc> nope just got a corrupt file error again
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| 11:56 | with new disk
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| 11:57 | rebooting again
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| 11:57 | <_UsUrPeR_> maybe your image download got borked
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| 11:57 | <garymc> why would i be getting corrupt file errors?
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| 11:57 | maybe
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| 11:57 | <bieb> true
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| 11:57 | <garymc> ill try again
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| 11:57 | then ill need to find another download spot maybe#/
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| 11:59 | <garymc> what is i check CD in ubuntu menu?
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| 11:59 | <bieb> garymc: if you go to the link I gave you earlier: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate and scroll down you will find all the download spots in the UK
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| 12:01 | <garymc> what is jaunty jakalope?
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| 12:01 | <_UsUrPeR_> jaunty jackalope is 9.04
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| 12:01 | <Ahmuck-Jr> the latest release
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| 12:01 | 9.04
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| 12:02 | <bieb> back in a bit...
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| 12:06 | <garymc> ok
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| 12:06 | im downloading off a server dont know if it was the same one or not
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| 12:06 | but its 8% into it
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| 12:09 | <Ahmuck-Jr> trust the source
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| 12:09 | garymc: did you get the desktop cd ?
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| 12:09 | or the alternate?
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| 12:11 | <garymc> im going for alternate
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| 12:11 | also doing a cd check from main menu and says its got corrupted files
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| 12:13 | have to wait for my new download now
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| 12:14 | <Blinny> garymc: Can I suggest upgrading from dial-up? (;
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| 12:24 | <CAN-o-SPAM> hi #ltsp
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| 12:25 | <Lns> hey CAN-o-SPAM !
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| 12:25 | <Ahmuck-Jr> ban the spam :)
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| 12:25 | <CAN-o-SPAM> love the spam
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| 12:26 | <_UsUrPeR_> eat the spam?
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| 12:26 | blech :P
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| 12:27 | <CAN-o-SPAM> CAN-o-SPAM is a popular food in the great state of Hawaii!
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| 12:54 | <ball> Hello CAN-o-SPAM.
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| 12:55 | (et. al)
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| 12:56 | <Lns> hey ball
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| 13:01 | <ball> Lns: I installed from the Ubuntu Jaunty Alternate CD and couldn't find anything that obviously related to ltsp.
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| 13:01 | <denisesballs> anyone want to help me with some global gconf questions?
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| 13:02 | <Lns> ball: at the initial boot menu i think you hit F4 to install an ltsp server
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| 13:02 | !question
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| 13:02 | <ltspbot> Lns: "question" is if you have a question about ltsp, please go ahead and ask it, and people will respond if they can. please also mention the linux distro and release you're using. :)
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| 13:03 | <Lns> denisesballs: ^^^ =)
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| 13:03 | <denisesballs> i actually already asked but nobody replied, so i wanted to check first...
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| 13:03 | i'm confused where default gconf setting for new users are from. is there somewhere to set global gconf values? or is the .gconf folder created when the user is created similar to the other user dirs? looking at this, but it doesnt actually tell you where to set them...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/GnomeOptimize
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| 13:05 | <Lns> denisesballs: gconf-editor
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| 13:05 | <denisesballs> isn't that per-user?
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| 13:05 | <Lns> there are commandline tools, and gconf-editor is a gui
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| 13:05 | no, you can set 'default' and 'mandatory' which affects all users
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| 13:05 | <denisesballs> when i change something in gconf editor, it did not retain for a different user
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| 13:05 | <Lns> otherwise it only affects the user that launched gconf-editor
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| 13:05 | <denisesballs> right, which is what im asking
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| 13:06 | <Lns> run it with sudo
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| 13:06 | <ball> Lns: I'll have another go at installing it then.
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| 13:06 | <Lns> and read the links at the bottom of the page you referenced (the gnome gconf manual is a great resource)
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| 13:06 | <denisesballs> where do you set mandatory or default?
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| 13:07 | <denisesballs> withing gconf-editor, that is
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| 13:07 | within*
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| 13:09 | <denisesballs> ahh i see it
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| 13:11 | <garymc> damn i just burnt new disc of ubuntu and its coming up with GRUB loading error when i try to boot from the cd
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| 13:11 | error 17
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| 13:11 | whats happening to me
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| 13:21 | <denisesballs> ok LNS: i just ran gconf-editor as sudo, changed /desktop/gnome/background, created a new user, and when i log in, it not the right background. so something overqrites it for new users
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| 13:22 | <Lns> denisesballs: you need to set it as 'mandatory'
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| 13:22 | <denisesballs> but then it can never be changed?
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| 13:22 | <Lns> it can if you unset it ;)
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| 13:22 | if you want users to be able to change the background, but you set it initially, use 'default'
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| 13:23 | <denisesballs> ok, i figured just setting it would make it default...
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| 13:23 | but i will try setting that
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| 13:23 | <Lns> no..if you don't set 'default' or 'mandatory' you're only setting for your user
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| 13:23 | not everyone
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| 13:23 | <denisesballs> ok, i figured doing it was sudo would
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| 13:24 | <Lns> nope
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| 13:24 | <denisesballs> do i still have to run it as sudo to set it to mandatory or default?
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| 13:28 | yes, i tried it
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| 13:29 | <ball> denisesballs: are we related? ;-)
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| 13:29 | <denisesballs> haha
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| 13:33 | <Lns> please, don't start with this...if gadi were here we'd already be talking about things not appropriate for children =p
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| 13:34 | just based on your names =p
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| 13:34 | <denisesballs> Lns, do you remember when we talked about gnome-watchdog and LDM with ogra?
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| 13:35 | was like a week ago
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| 13:35 | <Lns> i think so
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| 13:35 | he said a lot of gnome-watchdog stuff was integrated into ldm
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| 13:35 | in 'later' releases
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| 13:35 | <denisesballs> he was saying its not necessary anymore since LDM checks for running process and kills them when you log in
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| 13:36 | <Lns> right
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| 13:36 | gnome-watchdog is nice in that it kills procs AFTER you log out
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| 13:36 | <denisesballs> err actually, i think he went to clarify you had to add that option first
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| 13:36 | (01:31:44 PM) ogra: LDM_LIMIT_ONE_SESSION
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| 13:37 | cuz for some reason everytime i log out as MY user, it wont exit i have to kill the session. then when i try to log back in, it just hangs
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| 13:38 | er no, actually thats just to make it ask, by default he said it would kill the previous processes
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| 13:38 | but im finding that not to be true
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| 13:40 | <pmatulis> on ubuntu 9.04, is not being able to logout (System > Log Out) a known bug?
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| 13:48 | <Lns> denisesballs: not really sure..i don't run jaunty servers
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| 13:50 | <denisesballs> i think u meant pmatulis
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| 13:51 | <Lns> either one ;)
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| 13:51 | <denisesballs> well im not running jaunty...
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| 13:51 | <Lns> oh. =p
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| 14:28 | <denisesballs> u guys ever see on a logout the screen just turn to a bunch of horizontal striped lines?
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| 14:32 | <Lns> on a client?
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| 14:32 | <denisesballs> yeah
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| 14:32 | <denisesballs> restarting x fixed it, but still
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| 14:33 | <Lns> no...i remember the 'shading' effect was removed in hardy when you go to log out / gksudo / etc
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| 14:33 | did it reappear?
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| 14:36 | <denisesballs> no, i think it comes arround occasionally
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| 14:37 | trying to run gdmsetup and nothing is happening...
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| 14:37 | not a good day today
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| 14:38 | <Lns> denisesballs: gdmsetup? why?
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| 14:38 | <denisesballs> does that not work becuase it's "LDM" instead of "GDM"? where does one change the theme?
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| 14:39 | <Lns> right
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| 14:39 | <denisesballs> it was still in the menu...
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| 14:40 | <Lns> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/2008-May/004040.html - maybe that will help
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| 14:40 | denisesballs: gdm is still there for the server uses gdm
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| 14:40 | <denisesballs> ah, ok
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| 14:43 | <knipwim> is /etc/ltsp/ltsp-build-client.conf only meant for common variables, or also for distro specific ones?
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| 14:44 | <vagrantc> knipwim: for anything you want to put in there, but i'd recommend leaving it option for sysadmins.
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| 14:44 | optional
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| 14:44 | it's just sourced shell, really.
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| 14:45 | <knipwim> i'm looking at gentoo's 010-bootstrap file
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| 14:45 | and the quickstart-profile only can be loaded from commandline
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| 14:46 | so i was wondering why the plugin didn't look in the config file
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| 14:47 | <Lns> methinks an ldm custom theme wiki page is in order for ubuntu wiki
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| 14:47 | <knipwim> but if it's ok, i'll create a patch for it
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| 14:52 | <tonyv> vagrantc: now you're here, I'll just close on yesterday's problems. I installed the latest packages from lenny backports, to no avail. The problem turned out to be that the rsh key in /etc/ssh/ssh_known hosts was simply incorrect. I got around the problem by deleting that file, running ssh on the terminal to the server, and copying the /root/.ssh/known_hosts to /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts. Can't imagine why ltsp_update_keys got it wrong, but imagine that the /etc/
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| 14:52 | ssh/host_rsa_key was wrong. Still, it's running now... Thanks for your help.
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| 14:53 | <vagrantc> tonyv: that's very unusual... i've seen it work on thousands of other servers... i wonder what was different about yours.
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| 14:53 | <vagrantc> tonyv: glad you at least figured it out
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| 15:21 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: warren was last seen in #ltsp 1 day, 22 hours, 2 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <warren> pulseaudio changed substantially
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| 15:41 | <deathtech> Hello all
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| 15:42 | Im interested in doing a proof of concept to my enterprise using LTSP , and i have a couple of questions im sure a few guru's here can answer relatively quickly.
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| 15:42 | <bieb> throw them out there deathtech
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| 15:43 | <deathtech> 1.) Does LTSP Require that on each server you add PXE Clients manually ? (IE it wont just distribute out without requiring the file to be modified to allow each individual client)
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| 15:43 | i ask because we have about 23,000 locations that we would need to deploy a server to eventually
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| 15:43 | each location has about 15 thin clients
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| 15:43 | <bieb> you could duplicate the servers
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| 15:44 | <vagrantc> deathtech: just use DHCP ranges
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| 15:44 | <bieb> I would still go back and make minor name changes and such
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| 15:44 | <deathtech> Right, and that would be the ideal solution, but the Thin clients themselves (and i may have misunderstood) dont they need to be added in dhcpd.conf along with Mac addresses to function ?
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| 15:44 | <vagrantc> deathtech: i never have to specify anything for a thin client unless it has something unusual.
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| 15:44 | <bieb> ohh. sorry.. will all the servers be in one location? or each location will have their own?
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| 15:45 | <deathtech> Ah, so you dont have to add your clients mac or anything like that for them to be able to pxe boot correctly ?
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| 15:45 | <Lns> deathtech: no. as long as the ltsp server is active and your clients are pxe booting, it will boot them.
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| 15:45 | <deathtech> Each loc will have its own server
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| 15:45 | <vagrantc> deathtech: no need to add them to dhcpd.conf- you can just always hand out LTSP related settings to all DHCP requests.
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| 15:45 | <deathtech> cool, you guys will probably see a lot of me if you dont mind while im attempting this project
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| 15:46 | <vagrantc> deathtech: what sort of project is it?
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| 15:46 | <Lns> deathtech: welcome to the community =)
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| 15:46 | <deathtech> We have a lot of locations, but we are really a kind of poor company, we lose money on 80% of our patients, and we have some antiquated thin clients
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| 15:47 | well, our amazing developers created this new , hefty , application, that the thins arent happy running (requires flash 10)
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| 15:47 | <bieb> deathtech: beware,,, this place is habit forming.. and before you know it.. you will be trying to help others :D
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| 15:47 | <Lns> bieb: ;)
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| 15:47 | <deathtech> I dont mind that at all, i have a lot to contribute, maybe not so much to LTSP , yet :)
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| 15:47 | <Lns> the viral nature of successful FOSS projects
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| 15:48 | <deathtech> our lowest hardware will be running 64M Onboard flash chip , 128 MB's Ram, and an 800 MHz Via Eden Fanless proc
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| 15:48 | <bieb> that the client?
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| 15:48 | <vagrantc> deathtech: flash has tended to be an issue for LTSP ... usually you need machines powerful enough to run locally
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| 15:49 | <deathtech> Yes , that would be the client
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| 15:50 | the servers should be hefty enough, i beleive
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| 15:50 | 4 GB Ram, Dual core 2.4 Ghz Proc (Intel)
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| 15:52 | <vagrantc> deathtech: yes, but flash doesn't run well over the network.
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| 15:53 | deathtech: maybe it'll work for you, but just a word of caution
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| 15:53 | <Lns> vagrantc: i'd have to disagree to an extent, i've had a full class of kids (35) on fullscreen flash websites and it handled fairly well
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| 15:53 | <deathtech> Understood, Thank you Vagrant, i hope it does, as that is what will make or break this
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| 15:53 | <Lns> full motion video vs. flash animation is something to consider
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| 15:53 | <vagrantc> see, others have it working well
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| 15:54 | <deathtech> *crosses fingers*
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| 15:54 | <Lns> deathtech: what kind of flash are we talking about? is it really intense?
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| 15:54 | <deathtech> lol
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| 15:54 | No, its not like flash video by any means
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| 15:54 | its basically a clinical application that will display cells with patient information, etc, that was built on adobe flex
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| 15:54 | nothing as intensive as video, but its flash either way :p
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| 15:54 | <Lns> deathtech: as long as it was sanely coded i think you should be ok. especially with those server specs and only 15 clients
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| 15:55 | but ymmv, that's just my uneducated guess ;)
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| 15:55 | <deathtech> these developers are unfortunately disconnected (as it would seem) with the hardware minimums
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| 15:56 | im in the companies architecture group, so im here to try and make it work
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| 15:56 | <Lns> well...yeah, they're adobe devs ;)
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| 15:56 | <deathtech> ^ my point exactly :)
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| 15:56 | <Lns> seriously i think you should be ok. but you know, test it first and stuff ;)
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| 15:57 | <deathtech> Thats one thing that i have always found in using linux projects, the communities rock and are always open and willing to help, thanks guys :)
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| 15:57 | * vagrantc is in the "deploy it in thousands of sites as the first test run" camp | |
| 15:57 | <deathtech> Smoke break, brb :)
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| 15:57 | ^ lol
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| 15:57 | <Lns> Come back and let us know how it works
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| 15:57 | vagrantc: =p~~ no wonder you're an ltsp dev
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| 15:57 | <bieb> vagrantc: I hear that
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| 15:58 | vagrantc: are you using jaunty?
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| 15:58 | <deathtech> i will chill in this channel while i download the latest ubuntu CD, Xubuntu chokes , and the fix makes it more difficult apparently.
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| 15:58 | <vagrantc> actually, most of my development is done on a virtual server with a virtual thin client on my virtual laptop ... er, i wish.
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| 15:58 | VTSP, all the way.
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| 15:59 | <Lns> vagrantc: virtual terminal server project?
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| 15:59 | <vagrantc> :)
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| 16:00 | if i can kick it, i will
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| 16:00 | * Lns imagines vagrantc as a beastie boy... "Kick it!" | |
| 16:00 | <bieb> on Jaunty, when you logout or shutdown, there is a 60 second timer, you can click "logout" when the timer box appears.... Where can I find the settings for this? I am not sure what it would be called. I want to drop the timer down to 10-15 seconds
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| 16:12 | <garymc> Hi
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| 16:13 | <garymc> _UsUrPer_ : I got it working as a server!
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| 16:13 | bieb: also a thanks to you.
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| 16:14 | Ubuntu Alternative is much easier to setup than k12Linux
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| 16:14 | Does anyone know if I can setup Asterisk phone system on another server then link it to my ubuntu one?
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| 16:14 | <bieb> garymc: no prob.. glad its working
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| 16:16 | <garymc> Hey , iwanna setup another server with asterisk running our phone system, could I link it to the network hub and access it from ubuntu server? if you know what i mean?
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| 16:16 | so it all acts as one?
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| 16:17 | maybe im barking up the wrong tree?
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| 16:19 | <Lns> garymc: what do you mean 'acts all as one'...those are two completely different services
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| 16:20 | <garymc> I know, but i need it to interact with my main server. So when someone calls in it comes up on the thin clients comp, maybe number calling in and where it is being recorded etc. As they will be filling in customer details etc on the ubuntu server
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| 16:21 | im not sure how it all would work yet
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| 16:21 | Im going to experiment
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| 16:21 | but thought id ask some questions first
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| 16:21 | <Lns> well if it works on a normal workstation it's likely to work on a thin client, not too much difference...
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| 16:21 | <atomic007za> so the client s/w must run on the thin client?
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| 16:22 | <garymc> s/w?
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| 16:22 | <atomic007za> software, sorry
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| 16:22 | <garymc> errrm?
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| 16:22 | Ive been told its best to have a seperate server for Asterisk linked to my main server?
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| 16:22 | i could ask at the asterisk site lol
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| 16:23 | <Lns> garymc: correct, that's what i'd do anyway, heh
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| 16:23 | <garymc> but wondered how it would interact with my new ubuntu ltsp server
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| 16:24 | well they told me to read a 606 page book, which im going to do
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| 16:24 | :S
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| 16:27 | <atomic007za> if I have a 160 gig sata drive on a server and need to replace it with a 250, (the drive contains my swap parttion and dir, would ghosting work? or how could I do this?
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| 16:28 | nortons ghost that is
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| 16:30 | it is for my ltsp server
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| 16:37 | <bieb> atomic007za: dd
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| 16:38 | atomic007za: after dd completes you would have a 90gb unused partition, that you can allocate where you want
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| 16:39 | <atomic007za> thanks bieb
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| 16:39 | <bieb> no prob
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| 16:47 | <Lns> FYI: Just created this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LDMThemeChange
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| 16:47 | <ace_suares1> hey look at this: http://education.zdnet.com/?p=2905&tag=nl.e623 (the state of edubuntu)
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| 16:49 | <bieb> Lns: nice
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| 16:49 | <Lns> ace_suares1: thx for the link
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| 16:49 | * vagrantc has had good luck with partimage for saving partitions | |
| 16:49 | <ace_suares1> lot of trolls in the comments always on that site though. Read the first comment :-)
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| 16:50 | <bieb> Lns: does the ubuntu theme adjust automagically? ie... if I stick in an image of x size and the resolution of the client is different does it scale? or just stretch/squash?
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| 16:50 | <vagrantc> the fun thing about themes with ldm is that there's at least two ways to select which theme to use
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| 16:51 | <Lns> vagrantc: that's a fun thing? =p
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| 16:51 | bieb: i'm not sure, i used the same resolution (or smaller) for my customized logo.png...that worked well. i'll add a note about that
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| 16:51 | vagrantc: thx for that, i forgot to mention about being able to serve different themes for different locations on the same network (i.e. lab vs. classroom) for a more customized experience ;)
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| 16:52 | <vagrantc> Lns: on Debian or Ubuntu, you can change the default using update-alternatives in the chroot, but it's probably easier to just specify LDM_THEME in lts.conf
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| 16:53 | <atomic007za> Lns: cool
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| 16:53 | <bieb> the reason I was asking is I want to add a text image with guest login information. Currently in win when you ctrl+alt+del to get the login box, there is a box prior that gives the info about guests and usage
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| 16:54 | <Lns> bieb: oh yeah i know about that box, i remember learning about that a long time ago
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| 16:54 | vagrantc: i'll note the update-alternatives too
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| 16:54 | <bieb> yeah so the boss was looking at my client the other day.. with its nice clean login page.. and said "we need to put that guest login info on this page"
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| 16:55 | <vagrantc> Lns: most of what you have there is probably worth getting into the upstream docs
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| 16:55 | <Lns> vagrantc: mmk =)
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| 16:56 | man, it only took me like 15 minutes to write..heh
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| 16:59 | <Lns> vagrantc: hmm, update-alternatives doesn't see the new directory i put in the theme dir
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| 16:59 | where does it store that info?
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| 17:00 | <vagrantc> Lns: you've got to tell update-alternatives about it ... it's kind of clumsy and awkward... but look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/ldm*.postinst for how
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| 17:01 | <Lns> (ah, in the chroot)
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| 17:02 | oh wow it's hardcoded in there
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| 17:02 | I think i'll just leave that part out of the wiki, i don't see a good reason for someone to use that instead...do you?
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| 17:02 | <vagrantc> nope
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| 17:03 | Lns: it existed before LDM_THEME existed
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| 17:03 | <Lns> ok, cool
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| 17:06 | <bieb> alright.. time to head home.. talk to you guys tomorrow... have a good night
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| 17:06 | <Lns> bye bieb
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| 17:06 | <Lns> I'm outta here too, off to install new custom themes and make teachers and students light up with glee ;)
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| 17:07 | <atomic007za> cheers bieb
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| 17:07 | cheers Lns
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| 17:07 | <Lns> bye atomic007za
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| 17:08 | <vagrantc> atomic007za: you might want to try partimage for copying partitions around, too. i've had pretty good luck with it
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| 17:09 | you don't end up copying un-used space and such
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| 17:10 | <atomic007za> vagrantc: is it also comersal software?
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| 17:10 | <vagrantc> atomic007za: no, free software
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| 17:10 | <vagrantc> atomic007za: http://packages.debian.org/partimage
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| 17:11 | surely available with other distros, too
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| 17:11 | <atomic007za> will look for it now thanks
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| 17:13 | <atomic007za> would I use the CD, or install it?
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| 17:13 | vagrantc: would I use the CD, or install it?
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| 17:14 | <vagrantc> atomic007za: i would boot to LTSP and use it, but that's me.
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| 17:14 | <atomic007za> I have ubuntu installed but surely linux will be using that HDD
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| 17:14 | <vagrantc> atomic007za: it's just a commandline program- you can run it from wherever you want.
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| 17:14 | <atomic007za> ic thanks
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| 17:15 | <vagrantc> atomic007za: but yes, you don't want to run it on a live filesystem ... so you need to boot to some other media ... a live cd, LTSP, whatever.
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| 17:16 | <atomic007za> I could have saved myself the trouble but have clients new server here with i7 precessor and was keen to get it up and running, 2nd hdd is @ thier school
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| 17:16 | *their
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| 17:30 | * vagrantc might tag ltsp 5.1.81 tonight | |
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| 18:58 | * vagrantc uploads ltsp 5.1.81-1 to debian | |
| 18:58 | <vagrantc> and calls it a night
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