IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 26 January 2013 (all times are UTC)
| 00:00 | <vagrantc> Enslaver: in debian/ubuntu there's an "ldm-server" package
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| 00:00 | Enslaver: which has an inetd hook to get session information from the server
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| 00:00 | also language information and such
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| 00:00 | Enslaver: yeah, LDM_SERVER
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| 00:02 | berryterminal seemed really limited, and didn't even boot when i tried it
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| 00:03 | <Enslaver> whats the deal with ltsp-cluster? is that project ongoing?
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| 00:04 | <vagrantc> i think so... never really had the time to check it out in detail.
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| 00:04 | Enslaver: well, good chatting with you. need to head out again
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| 00:04 | * vagrantc waves to jammcq | |
| 00:05 | <Enslaver> you too, thanks for your help
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| 00:05 | <jammcq> ciao
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| 06:30 | <Guest94484> Hello everybody! I need help with ubuntu server 12.04 with ltsp thin clients on kde and domain autorization with likewise-open. Anybody can help me?
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| 06:34 | On the server local and domain auth it's ok, but on the thin client when I join as domain user after authorization screen blink and I again in the logon screen.
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| 06:40 | <PandaSparky> in the logs:
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| 06:40 | sshd[2489]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user user@domain.loc by (uid=0)
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| 06:40 | sshd[2493]: Received disconnect from 10.0.10.11: 11: disconnected by user
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| 06:40 | vboxltsp sshd[2489]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user user@domain.loc
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| 10:08 | <markit> !seen alkisg
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| 10:08 | <ltsp> alkisg was last seen in #ltsp 2 days, 18 hours, 57 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <alkisg> Right
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| 16:03 | <jammcq> good morning friends
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| 16:03 | <alkisg> Hi jammcq
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| 16:03 | <jammcq> hey alkis
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| 16:03 | i'm spending time today digging through how LTSP-5 works. I figure it's about time I understand it
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| 16:04 | first thing i'm wondering...
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| 16:04 | the ltsp-update-kernels script copies the kernel and sets up the pxelinux config files in 2 places
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| 16:04 | in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp and in /srv/tftp/ltsp
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| 16:04 | i'm wondering why it's putting the same stuff in both places?
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| 16:15 | <alkisg> Meh I was answering to myself :-/
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| 16:15 | <jammcq> heh
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| 16:16 | <alkisg> (06:08:48 μμ) alkisg: jammcq: basically it doesn't know where to put it
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| 16:16 | (06:09:03 μμ) alkisg: You might be using dnsmasq, tftpd-hpa etc etc,
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| 16:16 | (06:09:12 μμ) alkisg: or you might have a custom dir in your tftp dir,
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| 16:16 | <jammcq> yeah, I figured you were just ignoring my lame question :)
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| 16:16 | <alkisg> (06:09:27 μμ) alkisg: so we have 3 frequent dirs where the tftp files *might* reside,
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| 16:16 | (06:09:40 μμ) alkisg: and the code puts the files in whichever of those dirs is available
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| 16:16 | (06:09:48 μμ) alkisg: Typically, you'd have only one of those dirs
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| 16:16 | (06:10:00 μμ) alkisg: E.g. in ubuntu you shouldn't have /srv/tftp
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| 16:16 | (06:10:11 μμ) alkisg: And then ltsp-update-kernels doesn't create that dir, nor does it put files there
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| 16:16 | (06:10:41 μμ) alkisg: On the other hand, if you have e.g. 2 tftp servers and you manually run one or the other, you create both dirs and ltsp-update-kernels puts the files in both dirs
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| 16:17 | <jammcq> my debian system has the /srv/tftp and the /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp
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| 16:17 | <alkisg> dpkg -S /srv/tftp; dpkg -S /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 16:18 | Or just delete one of them.. or make one a symlink of the other... or ignore them :D
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| 16:18 | <jammcq> root@ltsp:~# dpkg -S /srv/tftp
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| 16:18 | dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /srv/tftp
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| 16:18 | :)
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| 16:19 | back in the days of ltsp-4.2, I knew every bit about how it worked
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| 16:19 | now... i'm mostly lost
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| 16:20 | <alkisg> So no package ships /srv/tftp, it's created by some package's postinst
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| 16:20 | I think /srv/tftp is the new trend in debian, so you can just delete the other one
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| 16:21 | <jammcq> I'll just leave it, this is just a test server for me to play around
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| 16:45 | <markit> alkisg: hi, I've a little problem with your ppa
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| 16:45 | <alkisg> Hi markit
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| 16:45 | <markit> add-apt-repository ppa:ts.sch.gr
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| 16:45 | gpgkeys: key 4F3A3E9FC07F4E831D87AC2D3C72607B03AFA832 not found on keyserver
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| 16:45 | (hi, I'm at school at the moment with a teacher behind me ;P)
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| 16:47 | alkisg: any idea?
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| 16:47 | <alkisg> markit: apt-key list | grep ts.sch.gr
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| 16:48 | Which ubuntu variant/version is that?
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| 16:49 | <markit> apt-key list | grep ts.sch.gr is empty
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| 16:49 | is 12.04 32 bit
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| 16:49 | there have been added a google repo for chrome (sigh)
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| 16:50 | <alkisg> markit: it looks like some local issue, it works fine here,
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| 16:50 | so I suppose it would work e.g. tomorrow,
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| 16:50 | ...but here's an alternative way to add the key:
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| 16:50 | <markit> can I ignore the signature problem?
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| 16:50 | ok
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| 16:51 | <alkisg> wget http://ts.sch.gr/repo/add-ppa.sh -O /tmp/add-ppa.sh && sh /tmp/add-ppa.sh ts.sch.gr
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| 16:51 | (if I remember it right - try it)
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| 16:54 | <markit> ok, now apt-get update gives NO error, but apt-key list | grep ts.sch.gr is still empty
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| 16:56 | btw recv failed also in other ppa
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| 16:56 | fabolous :(
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| 16:56 | <alkisg> Ah sorry wrong grep there
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| 16:57 | Yeah it seems like a local problem there
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| 16:57 | markit: pub 1024R/03AFA832 2009-05-27
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| 16:57 | uid Αποθετήριο Τεχνικής Στήριξης ΣΕΠΕ
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| 16:57 | Grep for 03AFA832
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| 16:57 | If you have that, you have the key
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| 16:59 | <markit> ok, perfect
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| 16:59 | I'm converting a thin ltsp without your repo to a fat ltsp with your repo
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| 17:00 | <alkisg> markit: errr remember that upgrading from 12.04 to our ppa is hard
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| 17:00 | Quick how to: (1) purge ltsp, tftp, nbd-server,
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| 17:00 | (2) delete all settings from /etc/ltsp, /etc/nbd-server etc,
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| 17:00 | (3) and then put our repo and install the new ltsp with the new configuration settings etc
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| 17:01 | <markit> yep, thanks , just forgot to purge also nbd-server
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| 17:03 | <alkisg> time to go, bb all
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| 21:04 | <markit> hi Phantomas :) busy re-installing ltsp part in a school server to use greek repos :)
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| 21:36 | <markit> I've entered fat chroot with ltsp-chroot and -c flag, neverless seems is fetching a lot of packages (I'm installing programs that are in the server) from internet and not from apt cache, any idea?
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| 21:37 | <vagrantc> markit: you mean from the server's /var/cache/apt/archives ?
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| 21:37 | <markit> i.e. ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives/ | grep gimp-help-it
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| 21:37 | shows the package gimp-help-it_2.6.1-1_all.deb
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| 21:37 | and in chroot I've
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| 21:37 | Get: 51 http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main gimp-help-it all 2.6.1-1 [31,0 MB]
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| 21:38 | <vagrantc> is /opt/ltsp/i386/var/cache/apt/archives mounted?
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| 21:38 | <markit> I've added repos in chroot (same as in server) and started updating / installing without exiting... coult it be a problem?
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| 21:39 | <vagrantc> should be fine.
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| 21:39 | if the file is there, it should check it against the version/checksum that it knows about.
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| 21:39 | <markit> I see with #mount in server: /var/cache/apt/archives on /opt/ltsp/i386/var/cache/apt/archives type none (rw,bind)
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| 21:39 | <vagrantc> and arch: all packages should always match.
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| 21:40 | ls /opt/ltsp/i386/var/cache/apt/archives/ | wc -l ; ls /var/cache/apt/archives | wc -l
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| 21:40 | come up with the same numbers?
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| 21:40 | <markit> vagrantc: I've done an aptitude full-upgrade before entering chroot, so should be updated
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| 21:40 | yes, 1798
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| 21:42 | mmm probably the date of the package in cache is not when was downloaded but the original one from repository?
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| 21:43 | I should check it's presence before chroot starts downloading, maybe
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| 21:45 | vagrantc: ok, probably cache does not contain all package, sorry for the noise
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| 21:45 | btw, I've learned something about the "mount" stuff, thanks
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| 21:49 | <vagrantc> markit: so it might be working?
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| 21:50 | if it's mounted, and they contain the same files, i'd be surprised if it wasn't working.
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| 21:50 | more likely something ran "apt-get clean" at some point.
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| 21:50 | that's why i prefer a caching proxy, such as approx.
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| 22:25 | <markit> vagrantc: yes it's working, just host cache has not all the package of installed programs in the cache, sigh
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| 22:25 | and this internet connection is slow like hell :(
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| 22:26 | also today I've discovered that squid is blocking ppa keys fetching, and I've disabled it after struggling a lot before find the culprint
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| 22:26 | culprit
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| 22:26 | <vagrantc> squid can be troublesome.
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| 22:27 | <markit> yes, and now, in a school of a friend of mine, squid authentication is needed, but I've found can't be setup if you config it as transparent proxy, that is what I do
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| 22:27 | <vagrantc> i don't let squid cache any files, because it usually gets it wrong. use a transparent squid proxy with jesred to redirect it to approx for urls that look likely to be packages.
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| 22:28 | approx knows what a debian-style mirror looks like, so it can cache things intelligently.
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| 22:28 | <markit> mmm I've used squid since day 0, I use it at my home, and works fine
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| 22:28 | recently I've installed something-ng for apt cache, never heard about approx, will investigate later
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| 22:29 | (apt-cache-ng?)
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| 22:29 | <vagrantc> it always has out of sync Release and Packages files, which breaks a lot of things, and always throws out the packages i wanted to cache, even when there's plenty of room left.
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| 22:29 | apt-cacher-ng is another one, haven't tried it recently.
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| 22:29 | <markit> I need squid for web navigation
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| 22:30 | slow internet connection, so I have to use it at it's best
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| 22:30 | even would love to install flash-blocker globally, but the package was in ubuntu time ago and now is no more there
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| 22:31 | <markit> vagrantc: so you suggest approx for packages, and squid NOT in transparent for web navigation, right?
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| 22:32 | as transparent it blocks keyserver.ubuntu.com connections :(
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| 22:32 | (or at least did, maybe now that I've reinstalled and refreshed the cache will no anymore, yet to test it)
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| 22:39 | <vagrantc> markit: i use squid transparently, but it doesn't cache anything, but redirects some things to approx.
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| 22:40 | markit: so approx does all the debian/ubuntu package caching and related files.
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| 23:10 | <markit> reboot time
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