IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 24 May 2015 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:34 | <snuffeluffegus> Hey y'all I'm trying to deploy a fat client ubuntu 14.04 with auto login based on ip with unity-2d, but all I'm getting is a black screen.
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| 00:36 | <vagrantc> have you created the users for autologin on the server?
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| 00:37 | <snuffeluffegus> yes
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| 00:37 | I did it on the main system as well as in the chroot
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| 00:37 | <vagrantc> and you can log in with autologin disabled using the same username and password?
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| 00:37 | <snuffeluffegus> then updated the ssh keys and the image
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| 00:37 | no I can't
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| 00:37 | <vagrantc> shouldn't add users to the chroot
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| 00:38 | <snuffeluffegus> Even when I log into an account that I know is good I can't do it with that account in chroot
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| 00:38 | err
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| 00:38 | h/o let me rephrase that
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| 00:39 | <vagrantc> there should be no users the in the chroot.
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| 00:39 | might even cause you problems...
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| 00:39 | <snuffeluffegus> ok
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| 00:39 | I'll rebuild my image and try again
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| 00:40 | Do you know how I might go about invoking unity-2d by default?
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| 00:41 | <vagrantc> as opposed to what?
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| 00:41 | you have multiple desktop environments installed, and you want to default to unity-2d?
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| 00:42 | <snuffeluffegus> yes
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| 00:42 | I'm running on some old hardware in some cases pentium 4
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| 00:42 | <vagrantc> LDM_SESSION in lts.conf
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| 00:43 | !lts.conf | echo snuffeluffegus
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| 00:43 | <ltsp`> snuffeluffegus lts.conf: (#1) http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf, or (#2) lts.conf manpage is available in the ltsp-docs package
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| 00:43 | <snuffeluffegus> I've set that, but it'
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| 00:43 | doesn't work
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| 00:44 | <vagrantc> hrm. might have to do with the Exec in the .desktop file specifying arguments
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| 00:48 | <snuffeluffegus> weird
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| 00:48 | I think it may be ubuntu 14.04 is just buggy, but I can't seem to get it figured out
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| 00:48 | even the lubuntu-desktop environment wont load
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| 00:49 | <vagrantc> try setting up a debug shell:
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| 00:49 | <snuffeluffegus> oh I've got to reboot this box I'll swing back in later after hacking on this a bit more
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| 00:49 | <vagrantc> !screen_02 | echo snuffeluffegus
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| 00:49 | <ltsp`> snuffeluffegus screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
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| 00:49 | <snuffeluffegus> I'll try getting a debug shell as well thanks
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| 00:50 | <vagrantc> and then ssh user@server from the shell
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| 00:50 | make sure that works
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| 00:50 | <snuffeluffegus> k
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| 00:50 | <vagrantc> literally "server"
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| 00:50 | <snuffeluffegus> I'll be back in later
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| 03:31 | <snuffeluffegus> How might I be able to set up persistent home directories for fat client users
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| 03:32 | By the way I got the autologin working when I didn't add users while chrooted
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| 04:17 | <alkisg> snuffeluffegus: they are persistent by default, if they aren't for you, you did something wrong
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| 04:18 | by default ltsp is using sshfs
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| 16:01 | <noodles1> I'd considered using raspberry pi's for thin clients, but I'd like to have the option for dual monitors. Any suggestions for a small, fanless, thin client that can do multiple monitors?
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| 16:15 | <gp> I use some intel nuc ones. Looks like there are other companies making small fanless units now too that can handle multiple monitors. Make sure to double check the graphics support for linux is there. I've ran into trouble with older intel atoms.
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| 16:36 | <noodles1> gp: thanks, I was considering a Wyse R10L : http://www.cnet.com/products/dell-wyse-r10l-thin-client-sempron-1-5-ghz-monitor-none-series/specs/
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| 18:27 | <alkisg> noodles1: $400 for 512mb ram?! why not get something i3-based and make it fat client instead, which will run waaay better...
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| 18:28 | !fatclients
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| 18:28 | <ltsp`> fatclients: You may find some info about the Ubuntu/LTSP implementation of fat clients at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
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| 18:28 | <alkisg> !ltsp-pnp
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| 18:28 | <ltsp`> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 18:58 | <noodles1> alkisg: $30 to $40 on ebay with shipping included
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| 19:03 | alkisg: I see that you're the editor of that wiki. How exactly does it work if it's not doing chroot?
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| 20:24 | <alkisg> noodles1: it's replicating the server's /
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| 20:24 | I.e. the server is also a "template client"
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| 20:25 | Well if you don't need multimedia apps, like ...a browser, then thin clients are ok
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| 20:25 | But if your users want e.g. fullscreen youtube, then fat clients are best
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