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08:29 | <Helenah> Hi, I'm not sure if it's intended or whether you forgot to unset, however you have +r mode set on the channel.
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08:38 | <Helenah> hmm
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08:41 | I think when I rebuild the NBD image, my DE settings are changed. For example, if I was to change the power management settings, and then rebuild the NBD image, my settings are restored back to default. My desktop background ends up restored too.
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08:42 | <Hyperbyte> Helenah, the +r is intended yes. Freenode is under attack by some very persistent spammers.
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08:43 | <Helenah> hmm
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08:46 | Hyperbyte: The ever-changing world is becoming an ever-intensifying threat!
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09:37 | <enaut[m]> ||cw: thanks for the sugestion with broken Locale that fixed it! (two days ago)
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09:45 | <alkisg> Helenah: the power management settings for a specific user is kept under /home/username. The nbd image doesn't contain /home, so it's completely unrelated to what you report.
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09:46 | If you want to change settings for all users, you need to change them in /etc, not in /home/username.
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09:46 | enaut[m]: if you think it will affect other users as well, could you file a bug report?
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09:46 | !ltsp-bug
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09:46 | <ltsp> ltsp-bug: To file a bug report for upstream LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
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11:43 | <enaut[m]> alkisg: - it was all my doing failing to set the locale correctly :(
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11:43 | <alkisg> enaut[m]: ok; normally it's set by ltsp-build-client
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11:44 | <enaut[m]> alkisg: I did set it with --locale de_DE omitting the UTF-8 part...
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11:44 | <alkisg> Gotcha
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11:44 | It's nice to learn about possible errors, in order to help future users that happen to have the same issue
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11:47 | <enaut[m]> But I wasn't able to fix libreoffice... I reinstalled it and then the java error was gone but still it segfaults right at the start... I'm now redoing the whole ltsp-build-client comand - which takes ages at max download speeds of 360 kB/s - I hope it just works then afterwards
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11:48 | <alkisg> enaut[m]: ltsp-build-client supports caching so that you don't download things again
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11:48 | --mount-package-cache mount package cache dir from server
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11:49 | enaut[m]: is your issue now that libreoffice isn't starting? I've fixed that in the latest version by just removing the apport service
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11:49 | I.e. you don't even need to rebuild the client
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11:50 | <enaut[m]> alkisg: might be but I was afraid that something with cached files was at fault so I prefer to wait...
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11:51 | <enaut[m]> alkisg: oh ok so I can try that when I have reinstalled everything and it is still not working.
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11:51 | <alkisg> Right, it won't be working
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11:51 | So you'd need to apply my latest patch there
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11:51 | !alkisg-todo
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11:51 | <ltsp> alkisg-todo: (#1) support xnbd-proxy for local caching: https://bitbucket.org/hirofuchi/xnbd/wiki/Home#!scenario-2-simple-proxy-server-distributed-copy-on-write, or (#2) Support UEFI, or (#3) support for per-user login commands in lts.conf, or (#4) put panic=60 in the kernel cmdline, or (#5) document bind-interfaces, or (#6) test the null cipher with https://launchpad.net/~yoda-jazz-kc/+archive/ubuntu/hpn-ssh, or (#7) test (1 more message)
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11:51 | <alkisg> Hmm lots of todos there :D
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11:56 | <enaut[m]> alkisg: mhm which patch?
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11:56 | <alkisg> !ltsp-code
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11:56 | <ltsp> I do not know about 'ltsp-code', but I do know about these similar topics: 'ltsp-docs'
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11:56 | <alkisg> !code
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11:56 | <ltsp> Error: "code" is not a valid command.
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11:56 | <alkisg> Meh
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11:56 | !ltsp-upstream
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11:56 | <ltsp> ltsp-upstream: Comitters to the LTSP upstream branch on launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream
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11:56 | <alkisg> !ltsp
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11:56 | <ltsp> ltsp: LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, the open source thin/fat client solution. You can find it at http://www.ltsp.org
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11:56 | <alkisg> !git
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11:56 | <ltsp> I do not know about 'git', but I do know about these similar topics: 'ltsp-git'
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11:56 | <alkisg> !ltsp-git
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11:56 | <ltsp> ltsp-git: https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/+git
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11:56 | <alkisg> Yey! I found it :D
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11:57 | So anyway, it's the last one at https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/+git/ltsp/+ref/master
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11:57 | I'll upload a new version within August
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11:58 | <enaut[m]> thanks!
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12:08 | alkisg: Oh and I claimed that ltsp-update-image uses "/" as default instead of the chroot - well it does not as you said ;) . But updting the image via the ltsp-manager does. maybe one could omit the slash there too? - thats how I ended up with the wrong image
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12:08 | <alkisg> ltsp-manager is designed to work only with chrootless mode
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12:08 | Also, I haven't updated it for 18.04 and I don't know how you have it installed at all
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12:08 | I don't think I made a 18.04 release for it, did I?
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12:09 | Ouch, it looks like I had a test release, since last year... ltsp-manager - 17.08.1+t201710301200~ubuntu18.04.1 (changes file) no signer 2017-12-22
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12:10 | <enaut[m]> alkisg: well it is in the repositories...
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12:10 | <alkisg> I'll delete it so that people that don't read the wiki :D don't get confused
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12:10 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Ltsp-manager => [edit] LTSP manager has NOT been tested/updated for Ubuntu 18.04.
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12:10 | With biiiig bold letters :D
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12:10 | <enaut[m]> alkisg: and it works including the signup... just the update image does not...
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12:11 | <alkisg> It is not designed to work with chroots
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12:11 | So it will never work as you want it to
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12:12 | I deleted it anyway so that noone installs it in 18.04
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12:12 | <enaut[m]> kk
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12:15 | but what needs to be done for it to be used in chroot mode? and what is missing for it to work in 18.04? - did you stop maintaining it? I will not do so much as promising something but where could i help?
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12:18 | <alkisg> enaut[m]: ltsp-manager is the internationalized version of an app that we use in greek schools, called "sch-scripts"
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12:18 | It was internationalized as part of a google summer of code project
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12:19 | There wasn't much demand for it, so I stopped maintaining the internationalized version; while I'm still maintaining the greek-only version
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12:19 | sch-scripts used to have dialogs for the chroot mode as well, "create a thin chroot, create a fat chroot" etc etc
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12:20 | Since I implemented the chrootless mode I had no more need for the chroot mode, so we're not using that mode in greek schools
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12:20 | Long story short, ltsp-manager would need about a week for it to properly support 18.04, and another week to properly support the chroot mode
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12:21 | But there's no motivation to spend those 2 weeks...
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12:25 | <enaut[m]> alkisg: I see... but why did you not internationalize the sch-scripts version of the script and only maintain that new version? - Especially the user creation from CSV would be very useful for me.
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12:26 | Did both projects diverge a lot?
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12:26 | <alkisg> enaut[m]: additional overhead. I'd need to constantly hide the greek-only things, to continuously internationalize and then translate the new strings etc
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12:26 | No, they didn't diverge, it's essentially the same project
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12:27 | But since it didn't get more than e.g. 100 users, there wasn't any reason to spend any efforts in it, no matter how small
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12:28 | Maybe it would get more users eventually, once people got to know it... dunno
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12:28 | E.g. I think only one person outside greece used the "shared folders per group" feature, which is awesome and many people actually need it
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12:38 | <enaut[m]> I'll look into it and either adjust it for my purpose or even submit some pullrequests...
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12:39 | <alkisg> You can become the maintainer if you like
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12:39 | And copy/sync the new code from sch-scripts
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19:31 | <enaut[m]> alkisg: regarding that... what is your developing workflow? Like how do you execute the script when developing? Or do you just install it and try the installed version?
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19:57 | <alkisg> enaut[m]: it depends, sometimes I directly run the ~/mycodedir/ltsp-script, other times I directly edit /usr/sbin/ltsp-script and when I'm finished I copy it to git, and other times when there are many changes I use debuild + install
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