IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 20 May 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 10:36 | <vagrantc> meho: so is replica strictly ass only, or are half-asses allowed on it?
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| 11:16 | meho: what is the vision for replica?
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| 11:29 | <cliebow> i think i am seeing double
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| 11:31 | <vagrantc> oops. wrong channel.
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| 11:33 | * vagrantc could explain half-asses and asswholes of freegeek if asked | |
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| 11:45 | <cliebow> heh
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| 12:16 | <wellington> Hi! in my kurumin (debian) show this error PXE-E32: TFTP open timeout. ?????????
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| 12:18 | <wellington> any people help me??
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| 12:18 | Hi! in my kurumin (debian) show this error PXE-E32: TFTP open timeout. ?????????
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| 12:19 | <sepski> wellington, verify your tftp server is alive and well
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| 12:19 | <privet> wellington: is your tftp service up and running?
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| 12:20 | <wellington> my inetd.conf is ftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd in.tftpd /tftpboot and not up in boot
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| 13:59 | <vagrantc> Burgundavia: hey
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| 14:00 | <Burgundavia> hey vagrantc
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| 14:00 | I am home
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| 14:00 | <vagrantc> i figured
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| 14:00 | <Burgundavia> it is raining and about 10 C here
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| 14:00 | I WANT TO GO BACK TO SPAIN!!!
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| 14:00 | <vagrantc> it's raining here too
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| 14:00 | <Burgundavia> /whine
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| 14:00 | <vagrantc> it was really nice. i went out and got soaked
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| 14:00 | <Burgundavia> well, rain in 30 C weather is much better
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| 14:01 | <vagrantc> Burgundavia: so after parting ways, i ended up hoping on a metro and not having a clue if it was the right one.
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| 14:01 | Burgundavia: the boring thing is it was the right one, and nothing much interesting happened.
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| 14:01 | <Burgundavia> heh
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| 14:01 | lol
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| 14:57 | <moquist> Burgundavia: have you actually used Puppet?
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| 14:58 | Burgundavia: I'm interested in something like that in lieu of AD. Am I barking up the right tree? Is this a sufficiently mature project for production use?
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| 14:58 | Burgundavia: I'm just getting started looking at it. Step 1: Ask people in IRC if it's any good. ;)
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| 15:18 | * vagrantc stares at http://bugs.debian.org/424989 for a while | |
| 15:18 | <vagrantc> that's just *way* too much work.
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| 19:23 | <Burgundavia> moquist: yes, I have
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| 19:23 | moquist: puppet covers the configuration portion of AD
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| 20:13 | <moquist> Burgundavia: Right; that's what I was aiming for. So is it recommended, then?
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| 20:14 | <Burgundavia> moquist: if is a bit of headache to setup, but after that it is good
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| 20:14 | you also need a combination of puppet and sabayon, which covers the gnome parts
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| 20:15 | <moquist> OK; that's helpful to know.
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| 20:16 | Burgundavia: have you ever worked with any imaging solutions for linux?
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| 20:16 | <Burgundavia> none
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| 20:16 | <moquist> k
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| 20:16 | <Burgundavia> too small an intfrastructure
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| 20:16 | the probelm with imagine solutions is that they are very brittle, in general
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| 20:17 | * moquist nods | |
| 20:17 | <Burgundavia> you constantly need to create new images
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| 20:17 | better to create a config server and then figure out how to kickstart your install to the point where it can contact that server
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| 20:18 | <moquist> right. I worked on jacal.sourceforge.net when I was at Taylor University, but I suspect setting that up for our dispersed environment wouldn't be worth it.
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| 20:18 | Burgundavia: Yeah, I'm thinking along those lines, too.
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| 20:18 | Burgundavia: I've never worked with kickstart or preseeding or any of those methods.
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| 20:18 | <Burgundavia> nor have I
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| 20:18 | I know the
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| 20:18 | Canonical people are thinking about this for their server stuff
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| 20:19 | gutsy is going to be a push for such stuff, apparnetly
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| 20:21 | which reminds me that I have a bunch of specs I need to write
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| 20:23 | <moquist> I know. I tried to read your MassDeployment spec but there wasn't really anything there. :)
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| 20:23 | <Burgundavia> it is currently sitting in a tomboy note
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| 20:25 | I need to have a conversation with some of the Canonical people to figure out how to break it out
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| 20:25 | given I don't see somebody from the community stepping up right now
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| 20:26 | <moquist> Burgundavia: what are you/they looking at -- easy setup & config of Puppet+Sabayon, or something more extensive?
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| 20:26 | <Burgundavia> I think they are planning some intrastructure bits
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| 20:27 | need to hook into that, to reduce the amount of work needed
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| 20:27 | <moquist> Ah; I don't know that I can help much with that. But I hope to be exploring this general area for my school district (10 sites, 5-6k users), so I could be involved to some extent.
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| 20:28 | <Burgundavia> ahh, cool
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| 20:28 | if you get a bunch of new machines, how do you handle them?
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| 20:28 | <moquist> I have the dream of being able to sit down and boot from the network, select with OS I want, and walk away.
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| 20:28 | <Burgundavia> basic practices are not entirely clear to me
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| 20:28 | <moquist> Right now we only have Windows XP and thin clients, with the exception of 15 Ubuntu systems at one school.
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| 20:28 | <Burgundavia> s/basic/best/
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| 20:29 | <moquist> My boss is talking about switching to Linux fat clients, too, but I don't know that it's going to go anywhere soon. But if I have a migration mechanism all researched out and tested...
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| 20:29 | * moquist nods | |
| 20:29 | <Burgundavia> right
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| 20:29 | are you talking installed fat clients or ltsp fat clients?
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| 20:29 | <moquist> installed.
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| 20:30 | <Burgundavia> right
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| 20:30 | <moquist> replacing XP.
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| 20:30 | <Burgundavia> ahh
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| 20:30 | if they are constantly connected, why not do ltsp fat clients?
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| 20:30 | <moquist> But hopefully easier to manage (that will sell well) and with more software available (duh).
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| 20:30 | <Burgundavia> ie: network boot
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| 20:30 | <moquist> 'cuz it would have to load the OS over the network.
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| 20:30 | <Burgundavia> right
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| 20:31 | <moquist> Also, there would be lots of customization required to get that to work.
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| 20:31 | <Burgundavia> ahh
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| 20:31 | <moquist> OOTB is a big sticking point for us. I feel handcuffed, actually. It's distressing sometimes. 8\
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| 20:31 | <Burgundavia> there is also some very cool work that RH is doing
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| 20:31 | et.redhat.com
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| 20:32 | <moquist> such as http://et.redhat.com/emd/prm/ ? :)
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| 20:32 | <Burgundavia> yep
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| 20:32 | cobbler and koan are also bits that need to be made to work with Ubuntu
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| 20:33 | * moquist nods | |
| 20:33 | <Burgundavia> for RH these are play things
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| 20:34 | we can take and make them rock
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| 20:36 | I would seriously love some people to take the raw tools and figure out what is needed
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| 20:36 | <moquist> you can include LTSP in the antecedent of "these", IMO.
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| 20:36 | but hopefully that's changing for the better.
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| 20:36 | <Burgundavia> ltsp on a generic Ubuntu install needs to made easier
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| 20:36 | * moquist nods | |
| 20:37 | <Burgundavia> basically, somebody needs to play with these tools and figure out how to make them work with ubuntu and then write down the steps
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| 20:37 | I am about to quit my job and thus going to leave my play lab
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| 20:37 | <moquist> heading to something better, I hope?
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| 20:38 | Exactly - that's the sort of thing I would love to get done this summer.
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| 20:38 | <Burgundavia> currently I just need to get out of the very poisonous atmostphere
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| 20:38 | <moquist> Ohhhhh. :(
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| 20:39 | <Burgundavia> it is really sad, because it is a desktop Linux company, a relative rarity in Canada
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| 20:41 | anyway, need to make dinner
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| 20:42 | <moquist> enjoy
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| 22:09 | <Burgundavia> moquist: not really
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| 22:12 | <moquist> Burgundavia: heh - maybe just for a minute, though.
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| 22:12 | Burgundavia: PM ok?
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| 22:30 | <Burgundavia> yep
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