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| 02:33 | <ball> What's a "zero client"?
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| 02:38 | <stgraber> essentially a graphic card, sound card and USB ports connected to some kind of wire (usually ethernet) but without any CPU or memory
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| 02:38 | (though I don't think the term has been standardized, so it may differ from vendor to vendor)
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| 02:39 | some call displayLink devices zero-client, some have fancier IP based units (thinking of some of the new HP products)
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| 02:39 | <ball> Hmm... strange.
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| 02:39 | <stgraber> if your next question is whether LTSP works with those things, then the answer is no ;)
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| 02:40 | the USB based displayLink units can work with recent Linux kernels, though they don't "boot", they just show up as extra seats on a machine, so LTSP isn't usually used for those (unless you want to LTSP boot the host for those seats, but that's making things pretty complicated)
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| 02:41 | <ball> stgraber: That wasn't going to be my next question.
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| 02:41 | <stgraber> AFAIK the fancy new IP based zeroclient stuff is all proprietary, though some solutions are probably based on Linux I doubt there's much open code for those yet
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| 02:42 | * ball nods | |
| 02:43 | <ball> I think I'd rather have an X terminal anyway.
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| 11:00 | <dievel> Hi. I have a problem booting a thin client (Acer Extensa). The boot stops at "Begin Setting up nbd-client..." The Acer has a SiS Ethernet Card. Other Acer model boot fine. I really need help here, any suggestion?
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| 11:08 | Nobody? :)
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| 11:17 | <alkisg> dievel: distro/version?
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| 11:19 | <dievel> Edubuntu 12.04LTS.
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| 11:20 | I suspect I should change some nbd-client parameter but I can't find where.
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| 11:20 | <alkisg> OK I just saw your message in the mailing list
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| 11:21 | !quiet-splash
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| 11:21 | <ltsp> quiet-splash: to disable the splash screen in Ubuntu, in order to see any boot error messages, run sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and remove quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7
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| 11:21 | <alkisg> It's possible that the problem isn't in nbd but later on
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| 11:21 | Remove quiet splash like it says above to see more messages
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| 11:23 | <dievel> Yep. I did it :) And the last line is "Begin Setting up nbd-client...Negotiation: ..size=280MB bs=1024, sz=293883904"
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| 11:24 | <alkisg> That means that the nbd mounting was successful
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| 11:24 | <dievel> That's good then :)
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| 11:24 | <alkisg> In the same file, try putting `break=bottom` at the place where `quiet splash` were
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| 11:25 | If that works, you'll get an initramfs shell at the client
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| 11:25 | <dievel> Ok. Doing...
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| 11:26 | Nice...booting the client
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| 11:27 | Nope. Same as before. Well...the last line is "nbd0: unknown partition table" but I see this message on others Clients that boot without problems.
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| 11:31 | <muppis> Uknown partition table -warning is legit (because image doesnt't have it), but meaningless because you do not need it in one partition disk.
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| 11:31 | <dievel> the default file now has "append ro initrd=initrd.img root=/dev/nbd0 init=/sbin/init-ltsp break=bottom nbdroot0=:ltsp_i386
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| 11:32 | Ok...good.
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| 11:34 | As I read from the documentation the next step is the reading of /etc/event.d dir?
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| 11:35 | <alkisg> dievel: if you don't get a shell with break=bottom, that's a bad thing
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| 11:35 | Try with: break=mount
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| 11:35 | Do you get a shell that way?
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| 11:36 | <dievel> Right now no. Now I try break=mount.
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| 11:37 | Yeah. Now I have the initramfs shell!
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| 11:38 | <alkisg> !nbd-client
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| 11:38 | <ltsp> nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
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| 11:38 | <alkisg> ...put your server IP there
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| 11:38 | Ah, and :ltsp_i386 in the name part
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| 11:38 | <dievel> Ok...
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| 11:39 | Hu? Sorry, where :ltsp_i386?
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| 11:40 | <alkisg> nbd-client 1.2.3.4 -N ltsp_i386 /dev/nbd0
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| 11:40 | I think something like this is needed in the 12.04 ltsp...
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| 11:41 | <dievel> Ok...
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| 11:42 | Seems it worked, there was no error.
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| 11:42 | Now I still have the shell and I can see the /dev/nbd0 device.
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| 11:44 | <alkisg> dievel: mount /dev/nbd0 /mnt
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| 11:44 | ls -l /mnt
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| 11:46 | <dievel> In /mnt I cans see the image content, dev...root...and so on. Seems the mount is ok like you said :)
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| 11:46 | <alkisg> So it seems like the problem is between the `break=mount` and the `break=bottom`
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| 11:47 | One way to debug this would be to run `set -x` from init, so that there's debug shell output
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| 11:47 | Unfortunately the instructions to do that would be rather long... :-/
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| 11:48 | <dievel> Can you tell what's in between the break=bottom and break=mount? Or give me an hint on where to read the set -x activation?
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| 11:49 | <alkisg> cd /tmp
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| 11:49 | zcat /boot/initrd.img* | cpio -i
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| 11:49 | (those are on the server)
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| 11:49 | ah
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| 11:49 | again
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| 11:49 | cd /tmp
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| 11:49 | mkdir init
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| 11:49 | cd init
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| 11:49 | zcat /boot/initrd.img* | cpio -i
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| 11:50 | gedit init
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| 11:50 | Search for "maybe_break"
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| 11:51 | Ah, there's also "mountroot" there
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| 11:51 | dievel: try again with: break=mountroot
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| 11:51 | Do you get a shell with that?
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| 11:51 | <dievel> Ok...doing...
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| 11:53 | there is a maybe_break mountroot before the maybe_break bottom
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| 11:54 | I try to reload with break=mountroot in default file...
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| 11:54 | <alkisg> That's what I proposed, yeah... :)
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| 11:56 | <dievel> Yes, I have the shell again now.
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| 11:57 | <alkisg> That means that the problem is in "mountroot"
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| 11:59 | <dievel> I see...between break=mountroot and break=bottom in the init file I have the "mountroot" and "log_end_msg". Not sure what this does mean.
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| 12:00 | <alkisg> dievel: the "mountroot" is a function call.
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| 12:00 | The function is inside the scripts/local file
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| 12:00 | dievel: do you see "Running /scripts/local-premount" in the client?
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| 12:00 | <dievel> Checking... :)
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| 12:01 | the /scritps/init-premount is run, just before the DHCP request.
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| 12:02 | <alkisg> Nope, check for "local-premount"
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| 12:02 | <dievel> I don't have a local-premount :(
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| 12:02 | <alkisg> Running /scripts/local-top ?
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| 12:03 | <dievel> From shell?
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| 12:03 | <alkisg> No, I mean, do you see that message?
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| 12:04 | <dievel> Nope.
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| 12:04 | <alkisg> "Mounting root file system" ?
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| 12:05 | <dievel> Yes, that one yes.
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| 12:05 | <alkisg> Please type what you see after that one
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| 12:06 | <dievel> "Spawing shell within the initramfs" and then the Busybox shell.
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| 12:07 | <alkisg> dievel: remove the "break=xxx" and check again
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| 12:07 | ...or type "exit"
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| 12:07 | so that the boot process continues
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| 12:08 | <dievel> I tried to run the ORDER script inside local-top and the client hung like before.
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| 12:08 | Ok
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| 12:08 | <alkisg> dievel: ah, so it's possible that there's another script that crashes it
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| 12:09 | Put the contents of "ORDER", from your server, to pastebin
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| 12:09 | !pastebin
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| 12:09 | <ltsp> pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 12:11 | <dievel> Ok, did it.
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| 12:11 | Called "dievel ORDER".
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| 12:13 | <alkisg> dievel: no now you paste the http://pastebin.com/xxx url here
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| 12:13 | So that we click on it and see what you pasted
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| 12:14 | <dievel> Sorry pastebin.com/9mvGDvRH
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| 12:14 | I don't use pastebin very often as you can see. Shame on me.
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| 12:14 | <alkisg> OK, only the nbd and nbd_ltsp entries there
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| 12:14 | Nothing else to blame
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| 12:14 | <dievel> Yep
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| 12:15 | <alkisg> (02:04:51 μμ) alkisg: "Mounting root file system" ?
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| 12:15 | (02:05:34 μμ) alkisg: Please type what you see after that one
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| 12:15 | (02:07:24 μμ) alkisg: dievel: remove the "break=xxx" and check again
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| 12:15 | <dievel> Ok.
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| 12:17 | Ok. Stopped like before, no shell.
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| 12:18 | <alkisg> So, what do you see after "mounting root file system"?
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| 12:19 | <dievel> "Begin: Running /scripts/local-top Begin: Setting up nbd-client...Negotiation: ..size=280MB bs=1024 sz=29388883904".
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| 12:20 | Same as running ORDER script.
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| 12:20 | I could put in the nbd scritp the "set -x". Could it help?
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| 12:22 | <alkisg> Yup
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| 12:22 | That will echo the commands that the shell executes, so that you'll see exactly where it hangs
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| 12:23 | Also, just a hunch, check if you have some local file system on that client, e.g. usb stick or internal disk, that you can remove
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| 12:23 | <dievel> Ok.
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| 12:29 | <otwieracz> Hm.
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| 12:29 | <dievel> alkisg:Here I am.
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| 12:29 | <otwieracz> Any ideas, why I do not see „rio” and „Xsession” in LDM sessions while they are in /usr/share/xsessions/?
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| 12:31 | <dievel> alkisg: The script end with "echo deadline"
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| 12:32 | alkisg: before that "grep -q \[cfg\] /sys/block/nbd0/queue/sheduler" if this can suggesto something.
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| 12:32 | <alkisg> dievel: that means that the script has ended successfully
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| 12:32 | Try putting `set -x` in the next script, nbd_ltsp
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| 12:33 | <dievel> Ok
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| 12:35 | <alkisg> dievel: or at the top of the "local" script
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| 12:35 | Try that one first
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| 12:37 | <dievel> I just tried at top of nbd_ltsp. It stops at "blkid -s TYPE -o value /dev/nbd0" Trying the local.
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| 12:39 | <otwieracz> Ideas?
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| 12:40 | <alkisg> otwieracz: on your server? with ldminfod?
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| 12:40 | <otwieracz> When LDM is starting i see only „Default” and „Failsafe xterm”.
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| 12:41 | in /usr/share/xsessions/ there are Xsession.desktop and rio.desktop (on server)
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| 12:41 | (in chroot also)
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| 12:42 | <alkisg> And is ldminfod running on the server?
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| 12:45 | <dievel> alkisg: With the set -x in the local script I see the export of many variables the last line is the launch of /scripts/local-top/nbd_ltsp. This seems to be the script that hang.
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| 12:46 | <alkisg> dievel: put again break=mountroot
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| 12:46 | <dievel> Ok
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| 12:46 | <alkisg> then run the nbd-client xx command manually again
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| 12:47 | <otwieracz> alkisg: Yes, running.
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| 12:47 | <alkisg> And after all that, try: blkid -s TYPE -o value /dev/nbd0
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| 12:47 | <dievel> Ok :)
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| 12:47 | <alkisg> dievel: if it hangs when you manually try that... then yup that's what hangs - and no idea why, but a bug should be filed
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| 12:47 | <otwieracz> Or no.
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| 12:47 | Wait.
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| 12:48 | alkisg: FIXED.
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| 12:48 | …
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| 12:48 | <alkisg> What was it?
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| 12:48 | <otwieracz> Not running xinetd.
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| 12:48 | == not running ldminfod
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| 12:48 | <alkisg> OK
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| 12:49 | <otwieracz> Hm.
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| 12:49 | But my .xsession still isnt being run.
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| 12:50 | Due to .xsession-errors it is trying to start twm by some reason.
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| 12:52 | <dievel> alkisg: Yes. It hangs even manually. The blkid command. I'll try to understand why. Thanks for the help and for the patient and to teach me some new debug stuff :))
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| 13:42 | <dievel> alkisg: Just ad information. I tried to skip the blkid command setting FSTYPE variable at squashfs but after that it hangs on the init-bottom script doing a "test -w /". So there is something wrong with those thin clients hardware. I bet on the network card. BTW, I saw you were the one giving the workaround to the bug described in nbd_ltsp script. My compliments :):)
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| 14:00 | <Hyperbyte> work_alkisg, http://www.ltsp.org/stories/viewstory/?story_id=3&secret=6d3695
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| 14:00 | I've added all the extra fields.
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| 14:00 | Now all that's left is an import.
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| 14:01 | Anything you'd like to change in the ods? You said before that all clients running 12.04 were using ltsp-pnp, for example?
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| 14:03 | <dievel> I'd like to add our own ltsp story when It will be working.
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| 14:05 | Right now I have a problem with Epoptes. Don't know If I can ask about Epoptes here. I already wrote in edubuntu mailing list :)
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| 14:08 | <Hyperbyte> dievel, not sure. You could try. The LTSP Gods are usually very forgiving if you angry them.
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| 14:13 | <dievel> Hyperbyte: :)) I bet someone already know the solution. If I run Epoptes, I can see the Clients and work with them. But I can't group them because they have the same name but different username. For example I can see "ltsp22 (utente2)" and "ltsp22 (utente3)".
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| 14:14 | Going on Screen_0 I can see that the thing client name is the one assigned by the dhcp, like "ltsp20, ltsp21, ltsp22".
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| 14:14 | But In Epoptes they look all the same.
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| 14:14 | <Hyperbyte> Actually, thin client is "ltsp" + host part of the IP address
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| 14:15 | <dievel> Yep. I see. I'd like to know how Epoptes detect the name of the client.
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| 14:16 | As for the users, I just created them and assigned the epoptes group as in the documentation.
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| 14:26 | <dievel> I can tell that that Epoptes shows the clients with the higher IP. I had the clients with name ltsp22 but when the new client boot up, they are all ltsp36. :) Strange.
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| 14:35 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: Anything you'd like to change in the ods? You said before that all clients running 12.04 were using ltsp-pnp, for example? ==> yup
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| 14:35 | Let me check what other fields you have for filling...
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| 14:35 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, what was the link again to Greek schools thing?
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| 14:36 | (see, this is why you should e-mail me those things :P)
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| 14:36 | <alkisg> wiki: http://ts.sch.gr/wiki/Linux/LTSP
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| 14:36 | <Hyperbyte> Okay
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| 14:36 | I'll fill that in for the "why" part
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| 14:36 | Is there an English version of that page?
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| 14:36 | <alkisg> As a story: http://www.ltsp.org/stories/viewstory/?story_id=8&secret=ed1d48
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| 14:36 | <Hyperbyte> Oh, right
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| 14:36 | <alkisg> No, no english version
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| 14:37 | Hyperbyte: can one change his story email afterwards?
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| 14:37 | E.g. suppose I have that story on my alkisg@gmail account, can I "transfer" the story to some ts.sch.gr mail?
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| 14:38 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, hmm
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| 14:38 | Yes, if you still have access to the original e-mail.
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| 14:38 | Or if you have the link.
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| 14:38 | <alkisg> Got both - ok
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| 14:39 | <Hyperbyte> They're all running Ubuntu I assume?
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| 14:40 | <dievel> About Epoptes, I see that clients have the same MAC address in the client information tab. And it's the one of the edubuntu server.
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| 14:42 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, Ubuntu version is not stored.
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| 14:42 | What LTSP version is Ubuntu 10.04?
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| 14:43 | <alkisg> dievel: I can try helping with that in 5'
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| 14:43 | Hyperbyte: moment...
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| 14:43 | <dievel> alksig:Sure... ;)
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| 14:44 | Sorry, "alkisg".
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| 14:46 | <Hyperbyte> dievel, hah, if you have problems with his first name, you should try his last name. I've known him for years and still couldn't spell it if my life depended on it probably.
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| 14:47 | Georgopoulus I think
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| 14:47 | <dievel> :))))
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| 14:47 | <Hyperbyte> Awe! Almost!
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| 14:47 | It should be Georgopoulos, not Georgopoulus
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| 14:48 | So close. :(
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| 14:48 | <ogra_> and now in proper greek UTF-8 please :)
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| 14:48 | <Hyperbyte> Hahahah
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| 14:48 | <alkisg> Hahaa
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| 14:48 | <Hyperbyte> My terminal doesn't even support UTF-8. And for good reasons!
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| 14:48 | * alkisg could never remember Jan's last name properly either | |
| 14:48 | <alkisg> I'm sure I'll write 1-2 consonants wrong there
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| 14:48 | <Hyperbyte> Oh, I'm sure.
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| 14:48 | At least my first name is easy. :P
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| 14:49 | <alkisg> :)
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| 14:49 | And ogra_'s last name is difficult too!!
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| 14:49 | <ogra_> nah, Hyperbyte's neither :P
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| 14:49 | <alkisg> Although I think it's easy typing it in the keyboard... 4 continuous letters at least :D
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| 14:50 | <ogra_> hehe, yeah, only fails on french keyboards
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| 14:50 | <alkisg> dievel: there's a "remote support" option in epoptes, would you like to use that with me?
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| 14:50 | Help > remote support > computer: alkisg.dyndns.org
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| 14:51 | <Hyperbyte> AHEM.
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| 14:51 | 15:42 <Hyperbyte> What LTSP version is Ubuntu 10.04?
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| 14:51 | <alkisg> I'm on it :)
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| 14:51 | (we have a newer one in our ppa I think...)
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| 14:51 | <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp
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| 14:51 | :)
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| 14:51 | for the default shipped ones and officially released updates
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| 14:52 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: 5.2.8 for greek schools
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| 14:52 | <Hyperbyte> 5.2, thanks
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| 14:52 | 5.3 in 12.04, right?
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| 14:52 | <alkisg> No
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| 14:52 | <ogra_> 5.2.1-0ubuntu9
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| 14:52 | (see the LP page)
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| 14:52 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: 5.4.3 currently
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| 14:52 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, 5.4?
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| 14:52 | <alkisg> Yup
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| 14:52 | <Hyperbyte> Cheater!
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| 14:52 | <alkisg> :)
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| 14:53 | <ogra_> oh, ignore me, you said 12.04
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| 14:53 | <Hyperbyte> ogra_, yeah, and we're talking about alkisg's custom Greek'ish setup too
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| 14:53 | So... :)
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| 14:53 | <ogra_> heh, k
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| 14:53 | <dievel> alkisg: sure :)
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| 14:53 | <Hyperbyte> I've been ignoring you since you pasted the link. ;-)
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| 14:53 | <ogra_> lol
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| 14:53 | <Hyperbyte> Haha
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| 14:54 | <alkisg> dievel: are you working directly on the server, or on a thin client?
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| 14:54 | If on a thin client, you also need -noshm
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| 14:54 | <dievel> Now a thin client.
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| 14:54 | <alkisg> Ah sorry
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| 14:54 | You'll be using the dialog
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| 14:54 | Ignore what I just said :)
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| 14:55 | <dievel> alkisg: which method? VNC or Console?
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| 14:55 | * Hyperbyte ignores everybody! | |
| 14:55 | <alkisg> vnc
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| 14:56 | <dievel> Ok :)
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| 14:56 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, any information on since when those schools have been running LTSP?
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| 14:56 | Guess not huh, you haven't deployed them all at once?
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| 14:56 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: hmm no, since some of them might have updated to 12.04
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| 14:57 | No, each school does its own installation, so I don't know when they do it
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| 14:57 | <Hyperbyte> Okay
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| 14:57 | <dievel> alkisg: connection failed :(
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| 14:57 | <Hyperbyte> I *think* that if I import this, it should be done.
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| 14:57 | Shall I make a database backup first?
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| 14:57 | * Hyperbyte ponders | |
| 14:58 | <Hyperbyte> I'm a "living on the edge"-kinda guy you know.
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| 14:58 | <alkisg> dievel: try from console: x11vnc -noshm -connect 5.54.107.97
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| 14:58 | <Hyperbyte> Nah, I'll make a backup. :P
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| 14:58 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: nah backups are for noobs
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| 14:58 | <Hyperbyte> hehehe
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| 14:58 | :-D
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| 14:58 | <alkisg> "there are 2 kinds of people: those that always backup, and those that never had a drive failure"
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| 14:58 | <dievel> It's on another room. Moving there ;)
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| 14:58 | <alkisg> dievel: no
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| 14:58 | I meant for you to open a gnome-terminal on that thin client
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| 14:58 | <Hyperbyte> Oh I can just copy the database in MySQL and run a test import. Duh. :)
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| 14:58 | <alkisg> And run that command there
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| 14:59 | <dievel> Aaah :)
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| 15:01 | <Hyperbyte> Hah
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| 15:01 | One field not recognized from the ODS file
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| 15:01 | I have a typo in a field!
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| 15:01 | <dievel> Here I am :)
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| 15:01 | <Hyperbyte> Funnily enough the typo is in the database, not in the ODS. :-)
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| 15:02 | <doc1> hallo
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| 15:02 | I've got a problem with epoptes
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| 15:07 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg
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| 15:08 | Fasten your seatbelt.
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| 15:08 | http://www.ltsp.org/stories/widget-map/?location=Greece
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| 15:08 | Hhahahahha
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| 15:08 | One minor detail
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| 15:08 | <knipwim> wow
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| 15:08 | <Hyperbyte> UTF-8 doesn't seem to work somehow. :-D
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| 15:08 | ???????? ????????? ????????? is using LTSP!
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| 15:09 | <alkisg> Ouch
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| 15:09 | <Hyperbyte> Hahaha
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| 15:09 | <knipwim> almost 60%
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| 15:09 | <Hyperbyte> phpMyAdmin seems to screw up UTF-8 when importing from ODS
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| 15:09 | I missed this in my test... that sucks.
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| 15:10 | <alkisg> (05:09:25 μμ) knipwim: almost 60% ==> ouch #2... this doesn't look good in the pie
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| 15:10 | <Hyperbyte> MySQL collation is latin1_swedish_ci
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| 15:10 | This doesn't kill UTF-8, does it?
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| 15:11 | alkisg, I agree it doesn't -look- good, but it IS reality, isn't it? :P
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| 15:11 | <alkisg> dievel: the problem is that you don't have epoptes-client installed in the chroot,
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| 15:11 | and your ltsp version is a bit old, it doesn't expose the ltsp client mac address
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| 15:11 | <dievel> Aaaagh!
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| 15:11 | <alkisg> If you put epoptes-client in the chroot, you'll also be able to control the clients before login
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| 15:12 | So while what you say is a valid bug, it's a rare one and one easily solved with proper installation...
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| 15:12 | Thanks for the vnc :)
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| 15:12 | (closed vnc)
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| 15:12 | <Hyperbyte> Hrm, no, collation is only for sorting. MySQL supports UTF-8
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| 15:12 | So the import is going wrong.
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| 15:12 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: no, I'm not sure that it is reality... it's just that we greeks keep better track of our ltsp installations :D
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| 15:13 | Hyperbyte: I think e.g. in brazil they have thousands of ltsp installations
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| 15:13 | dievel: http://epoptes.org/installation
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| 15:13 | <dievel> Thanks to you.
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| 15:14 | <Hyperbyte> Well, too bad for Brazil then. Maybe they'll be inspired by you!
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| 15:14 | <dievel> alkisg: it's still a default installation. Do you suggest to upgrade ltsp packets?
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| 15:15 | <alkisg> dievel: no - just install epoptes-client in the chroot
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| 15:15 | I'll see if I can request an ltsp backport for precise that would fix the mac address thing...
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| 15:17 | <dievel> Yeah... :) That would be great.
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| 15:18 | <alkisg> It's much better if you install epoptes-client in the chroot
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| 15:21 | <dievel> Yeah...now works! I'm the bug then :)
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| 15:28 | <Hyperbyte> Well
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| 15:28 | It's called a PEBKAC problem I think.
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| 15:31 | ;-)
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| 15:53 | <Hyperbyte> What, have you been screwing up too?!
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| 16:09 | <alkisg> jammcq: here?
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| 16:09 | <jammcq> alkisg: i'm on a conf call right now. I should be done soon
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| 16:10 | <alkisg> Cool :)
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| 16:59 | <JuJuBee> I want to install netbeans into my chtoot, how do I do that if the installer is gui?
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| 17:10 | <||cw> JuJuBee: for one app, I figured out where it installed files to normally and manually copied them into the chroot
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| 17:10 | I've not tried netbeans though
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| 17:11 | one way to do that is pipe "tree /" to a file, then install and pipe it to another file, then diff the 2 files
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| 17:11 | or it might be obvious, like installing to /opt
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| 17:12 | <alkisg> jammcq: done with the conf? should I wait or should we do that later?
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| 17:12 | <jammcq> yes
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| 17:12 | just got done
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| 17:12 | <alkisg> Nice, let's PM
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| 18:48 | <JuJuBee> What does it mean when I get Transport Endpoint not connected? when I open terminal? Other than my /home is not where I land?
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| 19:11 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte, knipwim, jammcq: I've converted the maps database to UTF8 and put a 'SET NAMES utf8' in class_database.php. All should be OK now, ping me if you see something wrong.
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| 19:11 | http://www.ltsp.org/stories/ :)
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| 19:17 | <knipwim> looks all Greek to me :)
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| 19:19 | <alkisg> Hehe
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| 20:12 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, weren't you off today to some boring workshops? :P
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| 20:12 | <alkisg> Nope today was the last day when I could help with the map :)
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| 20:13 | <Hyperbyte> Ah.
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| 20:13 | And help you did! :)
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| 20:14 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: to delete a location, I dropped its ltsplocation table row... is that OK? Any better ways to do that?
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| 20:14 | <Hyperbyte> You should drop both LTSP location and LTSP story
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| 20:14 | But it doesn't matter much
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| 20:14 | <alkisg> I wanted to keep the story
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| 20:14 | <Hyperbyte> Without a location, a story isn't counted towards... well... anything... it's just a story sitting in the database, nowhere to be found.
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| 20:14 | Although, when I send my mails, the person responsible for it will get an e-mail.
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| 20:15 | <alkisg> 2 locations, I wanted to delete 1 of them
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| 20:15 | <jammcq> Hyperbyte: do you have a constraint with 'On DELETE CASCADE' on the location/story so if you drop the location, it removes the stories?
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| 20:15 | <Hyperbyte> jammcq, no... you can technically have stories without a location.
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| 20:15 | <jammcq> hmmm, ok
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| 20:15 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: also, will you send any mails to those greek schools with their "edit story" links? Or should I do it?
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| 20:15 | <Hyperbyte> I don't even think you can delete a location... you could however, not add it.
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| 20:15 | alkisg, I can do it en-masse.
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| 20:15 | <alkisg> Cool
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| 20:16 | <Hyperbyte> Although if you want to do it, sure
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| 20:16 | <alkisg> Nah, I just want them to have the "edit location" link
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| 20:16 | <Hyperbyte> Not sure how good your PHP is?
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| 20:16 | <alkisg> Not at all
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| 20:16 | Write one line, google for 1 minute, another line, another minute of googling etc
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| 20:18 | <Hyperbyte> :)
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| 20:30 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, how many stories did you import?
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| 20:30 | 169?
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| 20:35 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: I believe so, yeah
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| 20:40 | <Hyperbyte> Oh shit
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| 20:40 | Are you in the mailing list?
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| 20:41 | <alkisg> Some of my schools are, yeah
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| 20:42 | <Hyperbyte> I think the links are screwed
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| 20:42 | Actually I'm 100% sure they're screwed
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| 20:42 | <alkisg> What links?
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| 20:42 | <Hyperbyte> In the 169 e-mails I just sent out. :P
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| 20:42 | They'll be alright in the 169 next e-mails I will send out though.
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| 20:43 | E-mail link was made based on $_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'] which is only sent during http requests
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| 20:43 | Since I'm doing this from console
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| 20:43 | * alkisg checks a mailbox... | |
| 20:43 | <Hyperbyte> ...
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| 20:43 | It's probably http:///mystory/etc....
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| 20:44 | www.ltsp.org missing
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| 20:45 | <alkisg> Hasn't arrived yet
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| 20:46 | <vagrantc> maybe something else was fortuituously broken, too. :)
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| 20:46 | <Hyperbyte> It will and link will be broken
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| 20:46 | I'll resent. :-)
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| 20:46 | Nah, they went out.
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| 20:46 | The mailserver probably isn't done sending them all...
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| 20:46 | Oh wow
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| 20:47 | Something else was broken
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| 20:47 | The script just told me it sent out e-mails to EVERY story in the database, not just the Greek ones
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| 20:47 | That's an error in output though, not in action. :P
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| 21:07 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: your mails got to the spam folder :)
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| 21:08 | So ok no worries, no school will receive them :P
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| 21:09 | Hyperbyte: the description field for the greek schools locations is empty, should it have the school name instead?
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| 21:50 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, doesn't matter
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| 21:50 | It's just a descriptive field
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