IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 27 June 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:26 | <dberkholz> any of you seen http://idea.opensuse.org/content/ideas/integrate-ltsp-with-opensuse ?
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| 03:24 | <vporo> should "XF86CONFIG_FILE = xorg.conf" work in ubuntu feisty (if xorg.conf works)?
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| 04:41 | <ogra> vporo, you need to hive it a path ... relative to your chroot ...
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| 04:42 | so if you store the file in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/xorg.conf-myconfig, the variable needs to point to "XF86CONFIG_FILE = /etc/xorg.conf-myconfig"
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| 04:42 | s/hive/give/
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| 05:00 | <le_dog> h
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| 05:03 | hi
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| 05:03 | uhm.
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| 05:06 | I have a local ubuntu mirror, my sources list is modified to fetch packages from the local mirror, however, when I run ltsp-build-client it still tries to fetch packages from the internets.
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| 05:06 | even If I use the --mirror option
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| 05:08 | how do I get ltsp-build-client to fetch packages from my local repo?
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| 05:11 | <ogra> did you set --security-nirror to none ?
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| 05:11 | *--security-mirror
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| 05:16 | <le_dog> hmm
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| 05:17 | cool
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| 05:17 | fixed
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| 05:17 | thanks
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| 05:20 | <netdog> wow
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| 05:20 | <le_dog> heh
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| 05:21 | thats my queue
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| 06:37 | <vporo> ogra: ok, thanks
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| 07:44 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 07:46 | <ogra> !s
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| 07:46 | <ltspbot> ogra: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 07:47 | <sbalneav> Hey ogra!!
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| 07:47 | Was working on ldm2 last night.
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| 07:47 | <ogra> i saw that
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| 07:47 | <sbalneav> Managed to get myself logged in using the new chat-enabled greeter!
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| 07:47 | <ogra> wlaready metioned it in the edubuntu meeting ;)
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| 07:47 | <sbalneav> Oh, cool.
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| 07:47 | Meeting still going on?
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| 07:48 | <ogra> yup
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| 07:49 | <cyberorg> hi guys
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| 07:50 | check this out http://dev.beryl-project.org/~cyberorg/suse/40/hack-week-and-kiwi-ltsp-project/
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| 07:51 | <sbalneav> Looks cool
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| 07:52 | <cyberorg> hope we can pursuade some hackers to look into it
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| 07:53 | <ogra> as long s you contribute your cod eback to the main tree, all is fine :)
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| 07:54 | <sbalneav> cyberorg: What channel do the kiwi ltsp people hang out in?
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| 07:54 | <cyberorg> ogra: would love to do that, but havent coded a single line so far, I have been able to package your code and got it partially working, real work should now start when real suse hackers get invloved
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| 07:55 | <ogra> cyberorg, i didnt mean *you* should do it :) but if you talk developers into it, tell them to work based on our branch and together with us in here :)
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| 07:56 | <cyberorg> sbalneav: #opensuse-kiwi, but it is only me and fxliberty who helps out with testing, no suse devs involved yet, schaefi implemented many things we requested in kiwi for ltsp
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| 07:56 | <sbalneav> I'll idle there
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| 08:17 | <netdog> kbye
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| 09:36 | <Gadi> ogra: ping
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| 09:36 | <rjune_> Gadi: !
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| 09:36 | <Gadi> rjune_: !!!
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| 09:36 | mornin
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| 09:36 | <ogra> Gadi, PONG!
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| 09:36 | <Gadi> route anything today?
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| 09:36 | <rjune_> howdy sir. you're in late for work
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| 09:36 | indeed
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| 09:37 | <Gadi> Ive been running errands
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| 09:37 | seems my shipping dept's asleep at the wheel...
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| 09:37 | :P
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| 09:37 | anywho...
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| 09:37 | ogra: gutentag
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| 09:37 | <ogra> hey hey
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| 09:37 | <Gadi> ogra: does l-b-c work in gutsy?
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| 09:37 | <ogra> l-b-c`
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| 09:37 | ?
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| 09:38 | oh
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| 09:38 | <Gadi> ltsp-build-vlient
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| 09:38 | <ogra> indeed it does
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| 09:38 | <Gadi> er, heh
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| 09:38 | I have been too lazy to set up a gutsy box
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| 09:38 | <ogra> i'm just building edubuntu milestone CDs with the latest ltsp :)
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| 09:38 | <Gadi> so I tried just grabbing the ltsp-server deb from gutsy
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| 09:38 | <ogra> so it should better work :)
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| 09:38 | <Gadi> and doing a DIST=gutsy ltsp-build-client
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| 09:38 | but it seems to barf on me
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| 09:38 | :(
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| 09:38 | always in different spots
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| 09:38 | <ogra> never tested that
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| 09:39 | <Gadi> ok
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| 09:39 | <ogra> where does it pull its pakages from ?
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| 09:39 | us.u.c ?
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| 09:39 | <Gadi> hmm
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| 09:39 | either us
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| 09:39 | <ogra> try using the --mirror option
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| 09:39 | <Gadi> or just archive
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| 09:39 | <ogra> and try with a different mirror
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| 09:39 | but no promises
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| 09:39 | <Gadi> ok
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| 09:39 | thanks for feeding my lazyness
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| 09:39 | :)
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| 09:39 | <ogra> might be that feisty deboostrap simpl doesnt knwo how to build a gutsy bases system
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| 09:40 | so you should try to upgarde that as well to gutsy
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| 09:40 | <Gadi> ah, good idea
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| 09:40 | let me do that
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| 09:40 | <ogra> i guess it dies very early, right ?
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| 09:40 | <Gadi> not always
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| 09:41 | sometimes it dies on dependencies of later package
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| 09:41 | s
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| 09:41 | <ogra> does it actually say it builds gutsy in the beginning ?
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| 09:41 | <Gadi> yup
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| 09:41 | <ogra> intresting
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| 09:42 | well, neither me nor vagrant tested the --dist option since several releases, its a historic option when we hadnt solved the differences between debian and ubuntu, so you could use --dist sid
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| 09:56 | <jammcq> sbalneav: so, i've got my parka, my mucklucks and my mittens. anything else I need for my visit to winnipeg ?
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| 09:58 | <rjune_> your snowmobile?
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| 10:01 | <jammcq> hmm, I better go back and get it
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| 10:02 | scotty's not answering. he must be working hard on preparations for me to arrive. You know, the parade and all.
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| 10:03 | <rjune_> heh
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| 10:03 | <jammcq> ok, gotta run.
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| 10:03 | <rjune_> they have to order the steak from down south. all they have up in winnepeg is polar bear
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| 10:13 | <Gadi> ogra: upgrading debootstrap seems to do it
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| 10:13 | <ogra> good
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| 10:14 | hmm, you probably need gutsys nbd-server package as well
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| 10:14 | and ltspfs
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| 10:14 | <Gadi> roger that
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| 10:14 | :)
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| 10:14 | <ogra> the new package uses options the ld one didnt know
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| 10:14 | so it *might* break
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| 10:15 | <Gadi> btw, dont know if you already do this, but you can exclude the /boot dir when making the sqashfs (to save a few bytes)
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| 10:15 | <ogra> i can exclude a lot :)
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| 10:15 | will do that if i go more into details
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| 10:16 | cdrom, tmp, proc, sys probably dev .... boot home ...
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| 10:16 | <Gadi> well, those are all empty dirs anyway, no?
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| 10:16 | <ogra> i'll go over that later for now the basic functionallity has to work
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| 10:16 | must not be ...
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| 10:16 | i.e. i have a cdrom mounted if i run ltsp-build-client in the installer
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| 10:17 | that produces a beautiful 900M image :)
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| 10:17 | * Gadi rolls eyes | |
| 10:17 | <Gadi> :)
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| 10:17 | <ogra> instead if the 120 we have :)
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| 10:17 | <Gadi> the rest are empty, tho
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| 10:17 | and prolly needed as mountpoints
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| 10:17 | <ogra> wel, everyting where you *could* have something mounted should be excluded automatically
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| 10:18 | <Gadi> fair enough
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| 10:18 | <ogra> one essential thing i still have to solve is ltsp-update-kernels not deleting NBDROOTD
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| 10:18 | err
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| 10:18 | NBDPORT, sorry
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| 10:19 | it breaks with multiple chroots/images atm
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| 10:19 | <Gadi> i thought ltsp-update-image takes care of everything
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| 10:19 | even the kernels
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| 10:19 | no?
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| 10:19 | <ogra> and ltsp-update.image needs more error checking, its still all a quick hack i ave to fix over time
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| 10:20 | no, ltsp-update-image only builds the image and copies it in place
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| 10:20 | <Gadi> ah
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| 10:20 | <ogra> it does everything thats needed for the image handling, but nothing beyond that
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| 10:20 | <Gadi> aptly names ;)
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| 10:20 | er, named
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| 10:20 | <ogra> i.e. updating inetd.conf if nbdrootd isnt there yet
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| 10:20 | <Gadi> i cant type today
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| 10:47 | <dan__t> 'morning.
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| 10:48 | <dan__t> So what's the most fun you guys have been able to come up with to mess with client displays
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| 10:48 | I'm fond of the export DISPLAY= trick with a little gqview hackery
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| 10:51 | Ah well. So how about DNS - I want to set up DNS so that I'll have username.internal.domain.tld, and I'd like this to happen dynamically when a user logs in. Anyone know if this can be done?
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| 11:28 | <gvy> halo gents
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| 11:40 | <edgarin> Hi :D
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| 11:41 | this computer stop the boot and only say
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| 11:41 | <edgarin> Top of ramdisk is 0x077E000
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| 11:41 | Ramdisk at 0x076A8000, size 0x00138000
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| 11:41 | Uncompresing Linux...Ok, booting the kernel
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| 11:45 | <gvy> edgarin, is the kernel home-built?
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| 11:45 | like no vga console support
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| 11:45 | <edgarin> but this computer are working ago 1 year with ltsp
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| 11:46 | <gvy> especially if it seems to actually boot further (blinks with hdd, replies to pings, etc)
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| 11:46 | <edgarin> and today say this message
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| 11:46 | <gvy> one or all?
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| 11:46 | <edgarin> one
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| 11:46 | <gvy> try to vacuum it (i mean, clean out the dust)
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| 11:46 | then check with memtest86 (it's available on floppy/as iso)
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| 11:46 | memtest86.com
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| 11:46 | or in your distro
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| 11:47 | <edgarin> ok
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| 11:47 | <gvy> 4 hours is usually enough
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| 11:47 | <edgarin> gvy, ok
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| 12:00 | <edgarin> Is possible install Beryl in a computer ltsp with a Nvidia card?
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| 12:04 | <ogra> edgarin, ubuntu gutsy's (7.10) ltsp will support compiz by default if the HW is capable
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| 12:04 | <edgarin> cool!!
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| 12:05 | <ogra> its a beauty on i810 based systems
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| 12:05 | <edgarin> Is fantastic!
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| 12:05 | <ogra> we dont ship the restricted drivers by default in ubuntu ltsp though (they eat up 15M extra ram) so a bit manual work is required to get nvidia cards running properly
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| 12:10 | <gvy> we do ship nvidia. :)
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| 12:10 | nvidia-legacy's available too
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| 12:11 | <ogra> well, its available in ubuntu as well, but we dont install it by default since the volatile kernel directory has to be mounted in ram .... that means 15M extra ram you waste on all clients
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| 12:11 | <gvy> like, it's moronic to pretend to be better just laying the same burden for those cards on the user with added inconvenience of self-assistance
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| 12:11 | <ogra> regardless if they have nividia cards (rare case) or not
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| 12:11 | <gvy> hm, we just do same old nfsroot
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| 12:12 | <ogra> ltsp as well (at least until next release)
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| 12:12 | <gvy> ogra, what's the point of the dir?
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| 12:13 | <ogra> faster loading ? no idea i'd have to ask our kernl team, i only know that there was an upstream request to handle it like that
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| 12:13 | <gvy> hm
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| 12:13 | <ogra> in any case thats the way its handled by the ubuntu package, i wont change that :)
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| 12:13 | * gvy will hopefully ask around or google | |
| 12:14 | <gvy> well, don't fix what ain't broken as they say :)
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| 12:14 | <edgarin> the cards ATI use a restricted drive?
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| 12:14 | <ogra> its two commads to install it and nvidia clients are rahter not a common thin client case
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| 12:15 | <gvy> edgarin, only newest ones (Xxxx)
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| 12:15 | upto 9600 you can do with "ati"
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| 12:15 | <ogra> they can either use a free one or a restircted one for the newer models
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| 12:15 | <gvy> ogra, yup
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| 12:15 | <edgarin> ahh ok
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| 12:15 | <gvy> sorry, moving off the office...
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| 12:15 | ogra, glad to see ya every time :-)
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| 12:15 | (guess it's harder to say vice versa)
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| 12:15 | <ogra> :)
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| 12:16 | nah, i like to see you :)
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| 12:16 | <gvy> tnx :)
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| 13:04 | <skipper> I am having problems with the Thin CXlient Manager. When I click on Screen View I get a message that xv11vnc is not installed on the client. How do I do that?
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| 13:05 | <Gadi> try: sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get install x11vnc
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| 13:05 | <skipper> From a client terminal? I already did this on the server.
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| 13:05 | <Gadi> actually, looks like it is in universe
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| 13:06 | <mopey> skipper, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=406220&highlight=edubuntu&page=2
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| 13:06 | <Gadi> you will need to add universe to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list
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| 13:06 | ah, thx mopey
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| 13:11 | <skipper> Thx guys, I'll try it.
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| 13:30 | <skipper> Tried to install x11vnc for a client by entering "chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get install x11vnc". Got error - "Can't find ..."
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| 13:30 | <cliebow> did you check ogra's notes on installing x11vnc?
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| 13:31 | <skipper> no, where is that?
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| 13:31 | <Gadi> skipper: you need to add the universe repo to the chroot
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| 13:31 | edit: /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list
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| 13:31 | add universe to the end of the first line
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| 13:31 | <skipper> I copied that information from the server's sources.list file
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| 13:31 | <Gadi> then: sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get update
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| 13:32 | then: sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get install x11vnc
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| 13:34 | <skipper> That worked -- thx again
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| 13:34 | <cliebow> Gadi strikes again!
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| 13:37 | Gadi:so what is the latest poop???ldm2 and squashfs?
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| 13:39 | <Gadi> indeed
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| 13:40 | <cliebow> ogra have a blog describing ?
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| 13:41 | <skipper> So I installed x11vnc, now how do I get it running for the clients?
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| 13:44 | <cliebow> skipper, if it is the chroot it Is available to the clients
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| 13:44 | err..on the clients..
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| 13:44 | i use a python script..some use tcm
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| 13:47 | <mopey> you have to have it start up with an rc script I think
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| 13:48 | <mopey> try putting this: x11vnc -display :6 -forever -loop -shared & on the last line in /opt/ltsp/etc/rc.local
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| 13:49 | and move the K99rc.local to S99rc.local in /etc/rc2.d (in the chroot.. /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/rc2.d/)
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| 13:50 | <ltspNtraining> greetings all.
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| 13:50 | <mopey> Problem is, this doesn't require a password, so any of your users can vnc into any of the other users screens.
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| 13:51 | So, you probably want to enable one. But it might take some tweaking to get the vnc manager to work, which is what you wanted in the first place.
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| 13:51 | <ltspNtraining> has anyone ever managed to setup an thin client with three monitors?
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| 13:51 | <mopey> err, the thin Client manager
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| 14:10 | <skipper_> I have tried everthing I was told to do, except I could not move the K99rc.local to S99rc.local because there wasn't one to move. Now how do I get x11vnc to run?
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| 14:11 | <skipper> No I haven't
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| 14:12 | I inadvertantly had two windows open
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| 14:12 | <Gadi> try adding: RCFILE_01=/etc/init.d/rc.local
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| 14:12 | to lts.conf
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| 14:13 | and make sure you: chmod 755 /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d/rc.local
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| 14:14 | this should get u going mopey's way
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| 14:15 | <Gadi> i would prolly add a password to vnc, or alternatively launch it through ssh with ssh keys exchanged
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| 14:15 | but, this will get u going
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| 14:16 | <skipper> I hate to sound so newish, but where is lts.conf?
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| 14:16 | <Gadi> /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
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| 14:16 | <mopey> /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
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| 14:16 | ahh, beat me to it.
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| 14:16 | <Gadi> (for now ;) )
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| 14:17 | <skipper> Thx, I'll try it
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| 14:23 | <skipper> What does that "RCFILE_01=..." do in the lts.conf file?
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| 14:23 | <Gadi> it should tell the client to run that script on boot
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| 14:24 | <skipper> I see, if my server is AMD64 and my clients are i386, will there be any problems?
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| 14:24 | <cliebow> sun-java6-jre..that seem right to install java?seems od
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| 14:26 | <Gadi> bbiab
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| 14:27 | <skipper> was that comment aimed at me? Then please explain what "bbiab" means?
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| 14:28 | <mopey> cliebow, I think so... Java is weird.
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| 14:28 | <ogra> cliebow: whats odd about that ?
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| 14:28 | <cliebow> i know..sometimes search finds it sometimes not
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| 14:29 | <mopey> I think java is weird since jdk is always a different version from jre, and I always seem to have java dependency issues, but maybe that's just me.
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| 14:29 | <sbalneav> skipper: bbiab stands for "be back in a bit"
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| 14:29 | <skipper> got it
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| 14:30 | <ogra> mopey: in ubuntu ?
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| 14:30 | <mopey> not with feisty :)
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| 14:30 | <ogra> right :)
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| 14:31 | <cliebow> ive installed with apt-get before..but dont seem to fine the right pkg this time
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| 14:31 | ogra:are you blogging your improvements anywhere?
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| 14:31 | <ogra> sun-java6-jre or sun-java6-plugin i guess :)
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| 14:31 | well i did recently ...
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| 14:32 | if scotties ldm stuff is in i'll write a big praise ;)
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| 14:32 | <Q-FUNK> http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto
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| 14:32 | seems that this lacks the part about setting up the tftp server
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| 14:33 | <ogra> Q-FUNK: you dont need to :)
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| 14:33 | ltsp-server does that in its postinst
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| 14:33 | or -standalone, cant remember
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| 14:33 | <cliebow> apt-cache search java|grep sun brings up nada
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| 14:33 | <ogra> multiverse enabled ?
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| 14:34 | <cliebow> ill double check
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| 14:34 | <ogra> you can also do apt-cache search java sun btw :) save teh grep
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| 14:34 | <Q-FUNK> ogra: no sir. not on debian, at least. it's still marked as disabled.
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| 14:34 | <ogra> marked as disabled ???
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| 14:34 | <Q-FUNK> tftpd-hpa disabled in /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
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| 14:34 | <ogra> whaerem, how ?
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| 14:34 | thats right
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| 14:35 | tftpd breaks booting if you run it standalone :)
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| 14:35 | its run from ietd
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| 14:35 | *inetd
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| 14:35 | <cliebow> seems enabled..and queried with apt-get update..
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| 14:36 | <Q-FUNK> ogra: ok, inetd indeed has it.
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| 14:37 | <ogra> :)
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| 14:37 | nfs, inetd and dhcp are autoconfigured in ltsp5 .... dhcp autoconfig is disabled in debian iirc but the rest should work
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| 14:54 | <Q-FUNK> ok, debian has incorrect paths in the default dhcpd.conf sample
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| 14:54 | the pxe and nbi are in /opt/ltsp/i386/boot
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| 14:55 | the defaults show something completely different
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| 14:55 | <ogra> Q-FUNK: no
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| 14:55 | they are not in /opt
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| 14:56 | <ogra> check your inetd conf ;)
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| 15:16 | <Q-FUNK> ok, it seems that the sample dhcpd.conf is the problem. the sample dnsmasq config worked better
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| 15:16 | well, it fetches the kernel, but then the screen turns blakc during kernel bootup and it never recovers
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| 15:17 | <cliebow> maybe you'll have to comment quiet splash in pxelinux.0?
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| 15:17 | <Q-FUNK> etherboot
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| 15:18 | <mopey> what does it say when your press ctrl+alt+f1? Anything?
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| 15:18 | <Q-FUNK> I'm not on pxe here
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| 15:18 | nothing
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| 15:18 | nothing on vcons1
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| 15:19 | <cliebow> k..perhaps pastebot your dhcpd.conf? ..iso you are using nbi.img?
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| 15:20 | <Q-FUNK> i'm guessing that the default rez in the boot kernel is something that my monitor doesn't like
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| 15:21 | yup, nbi.img and it loads
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| 15:22 | <cliebow> i must defer to ogra..
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| 15:23 | <mopey> This might be a crappy solution, but you could change your chrooted xorg to include a good default resolution.
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| 15:23 | <Q-FUNK> I see the "loading /ltsp/i386/nbi.img" and the the begining of the kernel's boot messages right after, it appears that it tries to switch monitor resolution and that's when the screen goes black.
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| 15:24 | <cliebow> mopey: so he hasnt gotten to that point
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| 15:25 | <mopey> right.
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| 15:25 | <cliebow> try another monitor and/or box?
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| 15:26 | good luck..im going for a swim..
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| 15:26 | <ogra> cliebow: and i must defer to vagrant :) i have no clue abotu teh debian kernel and as far as i know teh ubuntu nbi image works
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| 15:26 | <Q-FUNK> the monitor itself works with that client hardware as a regular desktop. i have to assume that the ltsp boot kernel is the issue.
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| 15:27 | <ogra> Q-FUNK: definately a framebuffer issue ...
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| 15:27 | <cliebow> Q-FUNK: i could zip my kernel and put it up if it will help?
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| 15:27 | <ogra> how do you boot your clients, floppy or bootrom ?
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| 15:28 | <Q-FUNK> ogra: bootrom.
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| 15:28 | <ogra> ah, crap i was hoping floppy ...
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| 15:29 | <Q-FUNK> :)
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| 15:29 | <cliebow> ogra:what were you thinking?
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| 15:29 | <ogra> rom-o-matic defaults to PXE emulation nowadays ... so an etherboot floppie would have been teh easiest
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| 15:29 | etherboot itself is a lot harder to debug ..
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| 15:30 | <cliebow> heh i still se 5.0.11
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| 15:30 | <ogra> ltsp ?
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| 15:30 | <cliebow> etherboot
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| 15:31 | imgonna jump in the pool..sorry if i splash you..
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| 15:32 | <ogra> heh
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| 15:32 | <cliebow> i could get used to this vaction thing..
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| 15:32 | <cliebow> /vaction/vaation
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| 15:33 | /g
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| 15:33 | forget it
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| 15:33 | <Q-FUNK> ogra: where are the kernel boot options configured in ltsp?
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| 15:34 | no lilo or grub, but there must be a place where boot options get defined before building the nbi and pxe images?
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| 15:34 | <ogra> well in pxelinux.cfg/default :)
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| 15:34 | <cliebow> Q-FUNK, i always used option 128 and 129 to tell the kernel stuff like what nic
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| 15:35 | <ogra> i dont think we configure any for mknbi during teh etherboot image generation
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| 15:35 | <Q-FUNK> cliebow: 128 and 129??
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| 15:35 | <ogra> dchp options to hand over kernel commandline variables
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| 15:35 | <Q-FUNK> dhcp option 128 and 129?
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| 15:35 | <cliebow> it may be old stuff..
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| 15:36 | <Q-FUNK> is that documented anywhere?
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| 15:36 | <cliebow> i can look at wiki.ltsp.org
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| 15:36 | <ogra> but you shouldnt need that
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| 15:39 | <Q-FUNK> argh
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| 15:39 | <ogra> ?
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| 15:39 | <Q-FUNK> ok, x configured itself according to the host hardware
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| 15:39 | so it might well be X
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| 15:40 | <ogra> well Xconfigures itself quite late in teh bootprocess
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| 15:40 | <cliebow> you can watch your packets with ethereal see if problem is after the nfs mount
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| 15:40 | <ogra> (second last initscript)
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| 15:40 | i wonder why you dont see any kernel/initramfs messages
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| 15:40 | i know you see them in ubuntu
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| 15:40 | <cliebow> bbiab..before i insert foot in mouth..
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| 15:42 | <mistik1> ogra: I've made a branch of the mainline last night, I'll just do all my hackin on that branch so we can always diff later
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| 15:43 | <ogra> mistik1: cool
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| 15:43 | <Q-FUNK> ogra: I said I _do_ see messages. messages stop quickly, thoguh
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| 15:44 | <ogra> mistik1: you took that one, right ? https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-drivers/
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| 15:44 | <Q-FUNK> ogra: I said that I see the kernel being loaded and the first few lines of boot messages, but then it tries to switch fb rez and the screen goes blank
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| 15:45 | <ogra> yeah, thats what i dont undrestand ...
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| 15:45 | because there is nothing that should chage your framebuffer ...
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| 15:45 | <mistik1> ogra: branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-drivers/ltsp/mainline
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| 15:46 | <ogra> mistik1: perfect ...
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| 15:46 | mistik1: any member of https://launchpad.net/~ltsp-drivers/ can commit your changes ...
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| 15:46 | <mistik1> ok
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| 15:47 | How does one become a member of that tree?
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| 15:47 | <ogra> so ping either of us if you got something :)
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| 15:47 | mistik1: actually we never discussed that :) i'd personally say through sustained contribution ... i'll bring it up if the others are around
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| 15:49 | <mistik1> ogra: I doubt I'm going to have any real improvement changes at this point, only a basic port so maybe what I should be doing is posting a gentoo-mainline ....
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| 15:49 | <ogra> thats what you should do anyway
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| 15:49 | debian has its own mainline and ubuntu has distro specific branches
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| 15:49 | <mistik1> ok, That's what i've done locally
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| 15:49 | <ogra> s/distro/release/
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| 15:50 | beyond that we try to keep feature development in its own branches
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| 15:50 | <mistik1> *nod*
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| 15:50 | <ogra> i.e. ldm2 is developed in two branches of scott and me ... if we'Re done we'll merge all of it into mainline
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| 15:51 | but keep teh old branch around ... in case someone wants to merge his own ltsp :)
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| 15:51 | ... out of different feature brnches
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| 15:55 | <mistik1> ogra: Ok, You'll hear from me about posting and branches when I have something that boots a Gentoo thin-client all the way
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| 16:00 | <Q-FUNK> ok, ethereal log loaded. what should i look for?
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| 17:10 | <lns> Can anyone tell me if using a generic Linux kernel (for compatibility with a mini-itx EPIA 800 (VIA cpu)) on an LTSP server (ubuntu) would affect, at all, thin clients booting?
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| 17:11 | I'm still learning the diff between what uses the chroot env. and the actual system stuff on thinclients
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| 17:21 | <mistik1> lns: I dont think changing the kernel on the server will affect the thin-clients as long as the kernel has support for nfs, nbd and such
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| 17:40 | <lns> mistik1, it seems so...i have two identical hardware thinclients - one boots and one does not. verified all BIOS settings, PXE is strange in that it required the "server-identifier" parameter for it to find the LTSP server. There was some weirdnesses going on so I'm just re-loading ubuntu 7.04 now and starting from scratch
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| 18:10 | <vagrantc> well, i didn't plan on ending up in boston
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| 18:21 | <skipper> I am still having problems trying to get the x11vnc working on the client
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| 18:24 | Is there anyone listening on this channel?
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| 18:31 | <Gadi> skipper: have you tried this: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/InstallX11VncOnLtspClients
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| 18:31 | <vagrantc> !seen jammcq
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| 18:31 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: jammcq was last seen in #ltsp 8 hours, 28 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <jammcq> ok, gotta run.
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| 18:32 | <Gadi> vagrantc: hey
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| 18:32 | <vagrantc> Gadi: hi. know folks in boston with a couch for vagrants ?
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| 18:32 | or, at least, a vagrant
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| 18:32 | <Gadi> I heard you're going brown ;)
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| 18:32 | heh
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| 18:32 | <vagrantc> brown?
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| 18:32 | <Gadi> ubuntu brown
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| 18:32 | * Gadi is colorblind, btw | |
| 18:33 | <vagrantc> that has yet to be proven
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| 18:33 | <Gadi> ah
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| 18:33 | what r u doing in boston?
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| 18:33 | <vagrantc> being very frustrated that my connecting flight was cancelled
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| 18:33 | mainly
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| 18:33 | <Gadi> ah - t-storms?
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| 18:33 | <vagrantc> and now fishing for boston contacts :)
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| 18:33 | * Gadi was driving thru that | |
| 18:34 | <vagrantc> i guess bad weather ... i got the impression it was the chicago side ...
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| 18:34 | but after a flight from madrid, hearing that you're being delayed for another 15 hours didn't improve my listening skills
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| 18:34 | <Gadi> oh, boy
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| 18:34 | <vagrantc> that's like twice as long as the flight itself
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| 18:35 | <Gadi> hmm... boston...
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| 18:35 | <vagrantc> i could go back to madrid and return and still make it
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| 18:35 | well, maybe not
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| 18:35 | <Gadi> well, u are in a college town
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| 18:35 | surely, there's a frat party u can crash ;)
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| 18:35 | <vagrantc> yes, it seems to be ooozing colleges
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| 18:36 | <vagrantc> surprisingly sparse on the intarweb cafes, for so much college around.
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| 18:36 | <Gadi> yeah - they wire their brains
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| 18:36 | :P
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| 18:37 | <Gadi> what time's ur flight to chicago?
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| 18:38 | <vagrantc> foolishly, i didn't pay close attention to that
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| 18:38 | i *think* around 8:55 or so in the morning.
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| 18:39 | i need to call them back, but didn't want to spend another second in the airport ... figured i'd find a more comfortable phone to sit on hold with
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| 23:14 | <jammcq> hey all
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| 23:56 | <lns> hey jammcq
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