IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 31 March 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:39 | <csaba_> hi
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| 06:39 | is anyone here?
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| 06:50 | <Appiah> alot of people in here!
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| 06:54 | <csaba_> ok, sorry, first time for me here
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| 06:54 | I have deployed a ltsp in a high school
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| 06:54 | we have 1 server with some 25 clients
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| 06:54 | now I would like to add more servers and clients
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| 06:55 | I am looking for a detailed guide as how to add more servers
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| 06:55 | and setup so they balance load between them
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| 06:58 | <maginot> Good morning.
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| 07:26 | <Remaille> hi
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| 07:28 | <Remaille> my ltsp server is inside a windows network (plenty of XP computers and a 2003 server)
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| 07:28 | how could hide some network windows shares on the network
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| 07:29 | hide or forbid the acces from the thin clients ?
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| 07:29 | thanks
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| 07:34 | <alkisg> Remaille: I think the correct way would be to protect them from within Windows - i.e. passwords for access, ntfs security rights etc
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| 07:34 | As a workaround, maybe you could use iptables to drop the packets if they use smb port for some specific IPs?
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| 07:35 | *I mean if the target port = samba port
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| 07:36 | <Remaille> yes alkisg , but i can't modify windows rights...
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| 07:36 | eg , i need to allow acces to P: and not J: or X:
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| 07:37 | <alkisg> In the same machine?
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| 07:37 | <Remaille> (theses are shares on the server)
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| 07:37 | yes
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| 07:37 | so same IP
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| 07:37 | :s
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| 07:37 | <alkisg> Well, then definately windows-side
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| 07:38 | <Remaille> I won'be allowed to de that (strange ok)
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| 07:38 | nothing i can do on the ltsp server ?
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| 07:39 | <alkisg> Too much of a workaround... the only thing I can think of is to cut all the traffic to this server, but allow a certain program (smbmount) so that it mounts P: to some path on the server... :(
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| 07:40 | But you should really fix your network - what, now anyone with a laptop can access shares that he shouldn't have?
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| 07:40 | <Remaille> I know alkisg
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| 07:41 | in my school, we have a software who need is directory to be read/write for everybody to execute itself on the network
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| 07:42 | in middle school, no laptop :)
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| 07:42 | exept teachers
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| 07:42 | on wondows boxes those shares are just hidden
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| 07:43 | on a thin client you see all of them
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| 07:44 | so, the clue could be tweaking smb ?
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| 07:50 | <cliebow> maybe just add browseable=no would be enough?
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| 07:51 | <Remaille> cliebow, where ? in the smb.conf ? (thanks)
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| 07:51 | <alkisg> He says he doesn't have access to the windows server configuration...
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| 07:53 | <cliebow> arrgh
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| 07:53 | heh..i misread
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| 08:07 | <Remaille> hum it should be possible by the way
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| 08:07 | there is a kiosk mode for ltsp
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| 08:07 | in this mode, i think that you can't browse the network
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| 08:07 | nothing on google for that
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| 08:07 | * Remaille : still searchning | |
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| 08:10 | <cliebow> ITS GADI!!!
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| 08:11 | <Gadi_eeepc> morning, cliebow
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| 08:11 | t al
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| 08:11 | *et
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| 08:13 | <cyberorg> moin Gadi_eeepc cliebow all :)
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| 08:27 | <maginot> Hmm I have some reports of firefox crashing as localapps when running some javascripts ... =)
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| 08:27 | <Gadi_eeepc> maginot: it definitely sounds like you have some underllying filesystem issues
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| 08:28 | <maginot> Gadi_eeepc, Hmm why you think that?
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| 08:31 | <Gadi_eeepc> well, you reported that localapps firefox was not saving user preferences
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| 08:31 | that would only happen if it could not write to the user's homedir
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| 08:31 | if it cannot write to the homedir, that means it probably cannot lock files and do other things
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| 08:31 | which may compromise the stability of the program
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| 08:32 | <maginot> well, not exactly not saving preferences... it saves well, but if the user disconnects THEM reconnect without rebooting the client all prefes comes reseted, but they are ther
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| 08:32 | <Gadi_eeepc> are they actually i the files?
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| 08:33 | in other words, look at the contents of the user's prefs.js
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| 08:33 | do you have any server-side login script that you added to reset things upon login?
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| 08:35 | <maginot> no, all default... what I have is 2 plugins, Acroread and Java... but after testing evince I notice that it crashed no more when printing pdf with barcode.. so Im going use it
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| 08:35 | and Im going to keep localapps in test and use the on-server procedure with firefox to maitain stability
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| 08:37 | localapps is still to much unstable, I will keep testing, will ubuntu 9.10 come with any change for localapps ?
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| 08:44 | <Gadi_eeepc> are you using stgraber's repository?
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| 08:44 | !stgraber-ppa
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| 08:44 | <ltspbot`> Gadi_eeepc: "stgraber-ppa" is https://launchpad.net/~stgraber/+archive/ppa
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| 08:45 | <Gadi_eeepc> if you use that, it will be the same as Jaunty
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| 08:45 | his intrepid packages are latest upstream
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| 08:46 | (which may be more stable for localapps - I know we cleaned up a few things)
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| 08:47 | <yggdrasill_> Hi gadi
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| 08:48 | <Gadi_eeepc> hi
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| 08:48 | <yggdrasill_> I'm still having problem with X...
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| 08:48 | <yggdrasill_> I tried your suggestions but as you told me
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| 08:49 | the problem is that the driver recognize the card as a laptop
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| 08:49 | and uses the wrong settings
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| 08:50 | seems to find an LVDS and DVI output
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| 08:50 | <Gadi_eeepc> right
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| 08:50 | <yggdrasill_> but I can't disable the lvds
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| 08:50 | <Gadi_eeepc> what distro are you on?
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| 08:50 | intrepid?
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| 08:50 | <yggdrasill_> I tried to set X_OPTION_01= "\"IgnoreEDID\" \"true\""
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| 08:50 | no Hardy
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| 08:51 | 8.04
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| 08:51 | <Gadi_eeepc> ah
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| 08:51 | hmm...
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| 08:51 | that makes things tougher
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| 08:51 | <yggdrasill_> why?
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| 08:51 | <Gadi_eeepc> you should make a special xorg.conf then
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| 08:51 | <yggdrasill_> i see...
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| 08:51 | <Gadi_eeepc> because hardy does not have the same infrastructure as intrepid
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| 08:51 | so, we cannot do an easy hack
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| 08:51 | <yggdrasill_> I should make a custom xorg.conf
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| 08:52 | <Gadi_eeepc> yeah
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| 08:52 | <yggdrasill_> and load it on lts.conf
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| 08:52 | <Gadi_eeepc> make a custom xorg.conf
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| 08:52 | <yggdrasill_> isn't it?
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| 08:52 | <Gadi_eeepc> and in lts.conf, use: X_CONF=/path/to/myXorg.conf
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| 08:52 | <yggdrasill_> i see...
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| 08:52 | <Gadi_eeepc> make sure that xorg.conf has the sectioin to ignore LVDS
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| 08:53 | <yggdrasill_> I have to define in device
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| 08:53 | <Gadi_eeepc> yes
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| 08:53 | <yggdrasill_> or in driver?
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| 08:53 | <Gadi_eeepc> or do this:
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| 08:53 | [FUTRO]
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| 08:53 | X_CONF = "/path/to/mYXorg.conf"
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| 08:53 | [AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF]
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| 08:53 | LIKE=FUTRO
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| 08:53 | ...
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| 08:54 | then, for each futro client, you can just use MAC and LIKE
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| 08:54 | <_UsUrPeR_> yggdrasill_: http://pastebin.com/m5ff3d675
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| 08:54 | that's some documentation I have saved for our DLW 1520. it should apply
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| 08:55 | <Gadi_eeepc> oh yeah, CONFIGURE_X=True
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| 08:55 | man, we made some good changes since Hardy
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| 08:55 | :)
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| 08:56 | <yggdrasill_> yes, I set CONFIGURE_X=True
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| 08:56 | <_UsUrPeR_> yggdrasill_: just ignore the parts about creating new images...
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| 08:56 | <yggdrasill_> ok
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| 08:56 | <_UsUrPeR_> err wait
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| 08:56 | <yggdrasill_> and if I would upgrade to Intrepid?
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| 08:56 | would things be easier?
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| 08:57 | <Gadi_eeepc> well, in intrepid, we have a directory in which to add hacks for Xorg.conf
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| 08:57 | <_UsUrPeR_> yggdrasill_: is this for a single laptop or a thinclient?
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| 08:57 | <yggdrasill_> thin clients only
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| 08:57 | <Gadi_eeepc> so, we could just drop a hack file in that says "if it detects this chipset, add this to xorg.conf"
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| 08:57 | <yggdrasill_> the futro s450
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| 08:58 | <yggdrasill_> I have 4 futro thin clients that are identical
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| 08:58 | <_UsUrPeR_> gadi_eeepc / yggdrasill_: here's that specific stuff. It was written by stgraber... http://pastebin.com/m334e6909
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| 08:58 | <yggdrasill_> but since they use large graphic charts
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| 08:59 | we bought large displays 1680x1050 22"
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| 09:01 | <yggdrasill_> this are for 8.10. works in 8.04 too?
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| 09:02 | <Gadi_eeepc> no - for 8.04 use the custom xorg.conf
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| 09:02 | <yggdrasill_> ah ok..
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| 09:03 | <Gadi_eeepc> bbiab
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| 09:03 | <yggdrasill_> just another question: I would like in the next future to upgrade the system to debian. What about?
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| 09:03 | is Debian better or not?
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| 09:04 | I mean what about LTSP under debian?
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| 09:04 | <NeonLicht> sure it is
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| 09:04 | <cliebow> depends on who you talk to 8~)
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| 09:04 | <yggdrasill_> Well I moved 5 users from window to linux and I chose a soft impact with ubuntu
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| 09:05 | <cliebow> i do believe..i do believe
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| 09:05 | <yggdrasill_> but I would like to move them to debian
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| 09:06 | and I wanted to know if this was a good idea
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| 09:06 | :)
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| 09:07 | I guess it is...
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| 09:13 | <_UsUrPeR_> m
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| 09:18 | <maginot> Gadi_eeepc, well, Im not going to use localapps yet, Im going to keep inside the lab on test before open to production, Im still waiting for the official release of jaunty to test it... for now Im liking very much of the intrepid updates like evince.
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| 10:32 | <CAN-o-SPAM> stgrabber: ping
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| 11:51 | <apocn> Hello, when my thin client boots Its not going directly to the chroot environment (for example when I execute touch /tmp from a thin client, Its not being created at /opt/ltsp/i386/tmp). How can I fix that?
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| 11:56 | <Gadi_eeepc1> apocn: the thin clients share the chroot as a read-only mount
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| 11:56 | if it were read-write, it would be disasterous
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| 11:57 | also, /tmp is a tmpfs in thin client memory
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| 11:57 | and has nothing to do with the chroot
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| 11:57 | just as the /tmp on the server does not write to the hard drive
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| 11:59 | <Nubae1> apocn: thats totally normal behaviour, think of the thin client as being an extension of the server, just a keyboard, a mouse and a monitor connected...
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| 12:04 | <apocn> Gadi_eeepc1: ok, but I see the created file in the server
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| 12:05 | <apocn> Nubae1: ok, so if I want to chroot users to their home directories I will need to do it as if its locally (without thinking about ltsp)
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| 12:06 | <Nubae1> /home is on the server, not the client
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| 12:06 | <apocn> Nubae1: sure, but I dont want the clients to go outside their home directory
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| 12:06 | so I just need to do that on the server
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| 12:06 | <Nubae1> so set permissions to 600
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| 12:07 | <apocn> Nubae1: to that homedir? (chmod -R 600 /home/user) ?
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| 12:08 | <Nubae1> yup, users are anyway pushed to /home/user by default, but if u dont want them to see other users home dirs, change the perms
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| 12:08 | <apocn> ok
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| 12:08 | <Nubae1> I dont believe u can lock them in to just /home/user though
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| 12:08 | <apocn> I'll try doing a chroot jail (http://www.fuschlberger.net/programs/ssh-scp-sftp-chroot-jail/)
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| 12:08 | <Nubae1> I might be wrong though, Gadi_eeepc1 probably knows more about this
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| 12:26 | <apocn> it worked but not with gnome (only the shell), maybe I'll just use Pessulus and Sabayon
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| 12:26 | thanks a lot guys!
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| 12:28 | <Nubae> sabayon is very buggy, I wouldn't rely on that
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| 12:29 | <apocn> ok
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| 12:33 | <Nubae> greets Lns
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| 12:33 | <Lns> hey Nubae
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| 12:33 | * Lns likes his shiny new cloak | |
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| 12:34 | <Lns> Nubae: how've you been? Haven't chewed the fat in a while
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| 12:35 | <Nubae> yeah, quite busy... I'm taking on a job running an Altix SGI system
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| 12:35 | 64 cores
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| 12:35 | <Lns> wow!
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| 12:35 | <Nubae> but SLES :-(
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| 12:35 | <Lns> eewwww... =p j/k
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| 12:35 | <Nubae> yeah, I'd rather it be debian or even redhat
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| 12:36 | <Lns> hey alkisg
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| 12:36 | Nubae: what's it that you don't like about sles?
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| 12:36 | <Nubae> I'd love to install LTSP on it =)
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| 12:36 | <alkisg> Hello Lns, Nubae (long time no see), everyone :)
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| 12:37 | <Nubae> hi alkisg
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| 12:37 | <Lns> it's like a reunion! =p
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| 12:37 | <Nubae> well, I just generally dont like Suse, everything is ass backwards on it
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| 12:37 | <Lns> Nubae: how so?
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| 12:37 | <maginot> what to do when after loading the client it stays in the login prompt and dont start ldm? I tried setting shell to screen 3 and ldm to 7 but doesnt work... screen 7 is just with a cursor blinking, screen 1 have thre prompt and screen 3 have nothing...
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| 12:38 | <Nubae> well for one /var/www is at /srv
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| 12:38 | I'm stuck using stupid yast
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| 12:38 | * Lns wonders if /var/www is lfs? | |
| 12:38 | <Nubae> lots of little things like that
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| 12:38 | <Lns> Nubae: well, it *is* a different distro, you gotta expect stuff like that ;)
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| 12:38 | <Nubae> well fedora, debian, centos, redhat, ubuntu all put it there
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| 12:39 | ltsp is also not under /opt/ltsp
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| 12:39 | <Lns> yeah, that really is kinda the standard place
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| 12:39 | <Nubae> not that it matters to much, but its just all these irritating little things
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| 12:39 | anyway, I'm looking for a good batch processing system
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| 12:40 | something to keep users happy and the system from getting bogged down
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| 12:41 | <Lns> maginot: did you revert those screen stanzas and see if it works?
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| 12:43 | <maginot> Lns, well, I have set the screen_03 and screen_07 because wasnt working without them so I tried this to debug, which didnt worked, so with or without it doesn't work, I only have the login prompt in screen_01 and nothing on 07 and nothing on 03 ...
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| 12:43 | <Nubae> graphics problems?
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| 12:43 | * ogra hopes maginot uses SCREEN_* not screen_* | |
| 12:43 | <maginot> I have my XSERVER = vesa and X_MODE = 1024x768
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| 12:44 | ogra, yeah, Im using uppercase...
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| 12:44 | but Im not using any kind of quote
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| 12:47 | I don't know what to do... this client was freezen before I disable sound in bios, I receive some "module-detect: failed to detect any sound hardware" and "E: module.c: failed to load "module-detect" (argument: ""):initialization failed" and "failed to initialize daemon"
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| 12:47 | and after that a lot of codec errors and client hangs
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| 12:47 | so I put SOUND = false on lts.conf and disabled sound in bios
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| 12:48 | <Nubae> ignore that error
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| 12:48 | <maginot> now the client is booting but when comes to start ldm nothing happens but I can do a ctrl+f1 and see the server prompt
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| 12:48 | <Nubae> happens when thin client loads to quickly
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| 12:48 | <maginot> Nubae, I couldnt ignore, because wasnt booting until disabling sound....
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| 12:48 | <Nubae> sounds like a graphics card problem to me
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| 12:49 | <maginot> Hmm
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| 12:49 | XSERVER=vga ?
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| 12:49 | <Nubae> why not let it autodetect?
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| 12:49 | what card is it?
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| 12:50 | <maginot> Hmm I dont know... I think its a via card... but I cant set to autodetect because other clients were having problems so I prefer to set per client configuration or default to vesa... at least its working great for the other clients
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| 12:51 | <Nubae> other clients with the same graphics card?
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| 12:51 | <maginot> no, this I'm testing is a different one, an older one...
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| 12:51 | Im trying with XSERVER to vga
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| 12:51 | <alkisg> maginot: why don't you try X -configure on the client and see the xorg.log ?
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| 12:52 | <maginot> alkisg, I'm not getting a shell ...
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| 12:52 | <alkisg> Ah, I thought that with Alt+Ctrl+F1 you got a shell
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| 12:52 | <ogra> try without setting SCREEN_07=ldm
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| 12:53 | <maginot> ops, I get it now after XSERVER=vga...
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| 12:53 | problem loading ztv ?
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| 12:53 | what is this ?
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| 12:55 | alkisg, looks like ztv is the problem ... how to block it on lts.conf?
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| 12:55 | <alkisg> I have no idea what ztv is :)
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| 12:56 | <alkisg> maginot: maybe it's a graphics module for your graphics card?
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| 12:56 | <maginot> looks like a graphic module, i found this: "This package provides the X.org driver for AMD Geode GX/LX video chipsets. It provides the 'amd' and 'ztv' modules."
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| 12:57 | but isnt to work just with vesa or vga ?
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| 13:03 | <Lns> maginot: what distro are you using?
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| 13:04 | <maginot> this client is for ubuntu 7.10
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| 13:05 | <Lns> yikes... why are you using such an old version?
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| 13:05 | <maginot> Im still finishing the tests on 8.10 to put on production, but for now Im with this server
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| 13:05 | <Lns> the AMD geode drivers (if that's what your client has) are probably broken in gutsy
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| 13:06 | <ogra> 7.10 is dead on april 23rd
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| 13:06 | <maginot> ogra, well, until there i hope to have 8.10 up and running =D
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| 13:06 | * Lns laughs at the irony of skipping the lts version =p | |
| 13:06 | <ogra> geode was completely broken in 7.10
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| 13:06 | dont waste your time on it
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| 13:07 | <Lns> ogra: there might be a ppa for it, there was for hardy
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| 13:07 | <maginot> wow... danm it ... so.. what workaround should I do ? What I'm thinking a kind of odd is that it should work with vesa driver ... dont it ?
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| 13:07 | <ogra> no
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| 13:07 | <Lns> maginot: geode has a rather "strange" history back then
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| 13:08 | <ogra> Gadi_eeepc1 might have a gutsy package, not sure
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| 13:08 | <Lns> i dealt with a lot of it myself in trying to get it to work.. you def. need an updated package, if that is in fact what your client has
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| 13:10 | <maginot> well, the good is that I can skip this client and use another box ... :)
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| 13:10 | I think this box was using win98 before O.o
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| 13:11 | <Lns> mmm.... malware... *drool*
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| 13:11 | <maginot> hehe
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| 13:19 | <Gadi_eeepc1> I have geode drivers for gutsy
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| 13:19 | and from what I have found, newer ones are no better
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| 13:20 | back in gutsy days, it is the amd" driver
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| 13:20 | pre-"geode"
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| 13:24 | <maginot> Gadi_eeepc1, you think using amd driver could solve?
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| 13:25 | dont harm to try ...
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| 13:26 | <Gadi_eeepc1> maginot: first, you should delete the ztv
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| 13:26 | it is broken and not necessary
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| 13:27 | I didnt catch what chipset it was
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| 13:27 | GX2?
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| 13:27 | LX?
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| 13:28 | <maginot> let me see.. just a sec
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| 13:29 | <maginot> tell me if is this write, lspci is showing as: VT8378 [S3 Unichrome]
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| 13:29 | strange... its trying to load this ztv module ...
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| 13:29 | <Gadi_eeepc> that's a via chipset
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| 13:29 | not amd at all
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| 13:29 | :)
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| 13:30 | <Nubae> let it autodetect it
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| 13:30 | no point in forcing it
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| 13:30 | <maginot> X -configure gives an error trying to load ztv...
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| 13:31 | Im kind of lost here, lspci show via, X -configure give an error trying to load ztv ... Im not sure of what to do
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| 13:31 | <Nubae> I have S3s and they load fine with autodetection
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| 13:31 | <Gadi_eeepc> rm /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ztv*
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| 13:31 | ltsp-update-image
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| 13:32 | :)
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| 13:32 | <maginot> Gadi_eeepc, okay, I did already both
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| 13:32 | no need to specify XSERVER in lts.conf ? (note that already have XSERVER = vesa in global)
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| 13:32 | <Gadi_eeepc> X -configure will load all modules present
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| 13:32 | <maginot> okay, let me try and see what happen
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| 13:34 | <Nubae> does LTSP work on itanium chipsets?
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| 13:40 | <maginot> Gadi_eeepc, okay, after X -configure it complains about the mouse but no error, I them run X -config //xorg.conf.new and I have the gui showing up, the cursor in the cross type (mouse is working fine) and the background is just a grid and nothing happen ...
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| 13:45 | <Gadi_eeepc> perfect!
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| 13:46 | <maginot> but I still havent LDM...
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| 13:47 | * maginot thinking about #startx to see what happen | |
| 13:48 | <Nubae> maginot, copy xorg.conf.new to xorg.conf, restart
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| 13:48 | <Gadi_eeepc> no
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| 13:49 | ok
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| 13:49 | at this point
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| 13:49 | XSERVER=auto does not work?
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| 13:49 | if not, try simply: CONFIGURE_X=True
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| 13:50 | <maginot> I can try... but this can be a per client configuration right ?
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| 13:51 | <Gadi_eeepc> sure
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| 13:52 | <maginot> Gadi_eeepc, you know, you are a kind of smart dude ;) everything went fine now, the client is booting normaly and I used XSERVER=auto =)
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| 13:52 | thanks again
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| 13:53 | <Gadi_eeepc> :)
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| 13:56 | <cliebow> GADI ROCKS!
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| 13:57 | <maginot> hehe yeah, I must agree with that =)
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| 13:59 | <maginot> but to be fair I have received help of a lot of people here
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| 13:59 | sometimes Im feeling a bit annoying but its the way ... =X
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| 14:14 | <NeonLicht> hey, vagrantc, I have installed the backports for Lenny, as you told me yesterday they were needed for localapps... I've been able to run a few localapps already and, best of all (the reasson why I wanted them in the first place) I've been able to dd a disk image into an USB stick w/o having to go to the server room to place it into the server, hahaha, thanks a lot man, for the great job and the so useful information!
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| 14:16 | <vagrantc> NeonLicht: glad to hear it! :)
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| 14:16 | NeonLicht: sometimes all we hear is what's broken, so thanks. :)
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| 14:17 | <NeonLicht> well, it works very nicely for me, actually, perhaps I'll find some problems in the future, but for now it has solved the inconviniencies I had, vagrantc :-)
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| 14:18 | well sometimes we also have to tell when something works, shoudn't we? XDD
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| 14:18 | and not only complain when they don't, hehe
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| 14:28 | <alkisg> vagrantc, I've been working with LTSP in my ancient pc school labs for 2 years now with only minor problems, thanks a lot to you and all the LTSP team! :) :) :)
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| 14:29 | (no pun intented :))
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| 14:30 | <NeonLicht> hahaha
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| 14:30 | <ogra> great to hear
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| 14:31 | * ogra really needs to find the time to test jauntys ltsp before release | |
| 14:31 | <vagrantc> ogra: just wait till after the release, then it'll be stable. :)
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| 14:31 | <ogra> so many beautiful additions and i have no time to try them
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| 14:31 | heh
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| 14:32 | i'd still love to merge my arm work in
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| 14:32 | but that would require a bit of spare time
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| 14:33 | * ogra was hacking up flash-kernel the whole day ... and still washing my eyes out | |
| 14:33 | <ogra> seems everyone adding code there invented a new scripting style ... fun
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| 14:34 | ltsp code seems so straight and clean compared to that
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| 14:34 | even with Gadi_eeepc's hacks :P
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| 15:22 | <dropally> would you guys recommend on doing the alternate install of ubuntu ltsp, or installing ubuntu intrepid and installing ltsp from there for a single nic setup
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| 15:24 | <alkisg> alternate - mounts the cd and saves a lot of bandwidth for ltsp-build-client
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| 15:24 | <dropally> using the alternate build I'm having issues right out of the box
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| 15:24 | tftp and dhcp errors
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| 15:25 | maybe I got spoiled from using k12linux, it works right after the install
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| 15:27 | <vagrantc> most ubuntu installs work right after the install too
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| 15:27 | <dropally> ok thats good to know, I'm using virtualbox for my testbed, maybe thats my problem
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| 15:28 | <vagrantc> it's really easy to do a 2 NIC setup with virtualbox
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| 15:28 | <dropally> yes I've used it before
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| 15:28 | wonder what i did wrong
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| 15:28 | i didn't have any internet either
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| 15:28 | both nic's, eth0 and eth1 had the same ip
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| 15:29 | maybe since it's virtual it got mixed up having the same nic
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| 15:30 | <vagrantc> i always set up two nics, one with "NAT" and one on an "internal" network.
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| 15:32 | <dropally> I am trying to eliminate the "internal" network
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| 15:32 | <vagrantc> because?
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| 15:32 | <dropally> I have many rooms/labs to setup thin clients at
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| 15:33 | so I don't want to put a thin client server at each room or lab
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| 15:34 | my basic need is to have 1 thin client server
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| 15:34 | in the main server cabinet
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| 15:34 | the thin clients are primarily laptops with no hard drives
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| 15:35 | some users have them at one spot, some users move around
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| 15:48 | <palichis> hello, I have a problem with my ltsp .. when trying to login in a work station tells me that this station is not authorized to connect to the server, any idea of this error?
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| 15:49 | <vagrantc> !release
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| 15:49 | <ltspbot`> vagrantc: "release" is please mention the linux distro and release you're using :)
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| 15:49 | <vagrantc> palichis: you'll probably need to run ltsp-update-sshkeys and maybe ltsp-update-image
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| 15:50 | <palichis> i used ubuntu8.04 alternate
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| 15:52 | ok I will try .. there, I notice as I was
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| 15:55 | vagrantc: thanks for the help .. already works :P
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| 16:34 | <palichis> hello again ... I do run my laptop as a client .. but I get the following error
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| 16:34 | Loading, please wait...
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| 16:34 | ipconfig: eth0: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device
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| 16:34 | ipconfig: no devices to configure
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| 16:34 | /init: .: 1: Can't open /tmp/net-eth0.conf
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| 16:34 | [ 27.323320] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
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| 16:35 | sorry by copy and paste the entire error
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| 16:56 | <palichis> anyone know this error occurs because
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| 16:56 | http://pastebin.solid-ec.org/?page=view&id=1238536529
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| 17:00 | <Memfis> evening all, I'm sucessfully running ltsp on xubuntu however I'm having problems getting local usb devices to show up. I'm following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev however am getting stuck on obtaining a text console on the ltsp client. I have set a root passwd in the ltsp chroot. Can anyone advise?
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| 18:14 | <loather-work> Memfis: ctl-alt-f1?
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| 18:15 | <Memfis> yes
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| 18:15 | doesn't do anything
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| 18:16 | lol
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| 18:16 | does now
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| 18:16 | don't know why, didn't work on one box, just tried another and works fine. please excuse me :)
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| 18:16 | I'll carry on reading the instrustions :)
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| 18:18 | hmmm
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| 18:19 | 'you're account has expired please contact administrator'
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| 18:19 | your*
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| 18:20 | did chroot /opt/ltsp/i386, passwd, exit, ltsp-update-image
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| 18:20 | did I miss something?
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| 18:21 | <loather-work> to set the password for root?
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| 18:21 | <Memfis> yes
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| 18:21 | client has been rebooted since performing those actions
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| 18:22 | <loather-work> try usermod -e 2038-01-01 root from inside the chroot
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| 18:23 | <Memfis> done, rebuilding image
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| 18:24 | I'm trying to get local usb sticks to work on clients, then I'm going to see about sorting out sound.
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| 18:25 | sound isn't so important tho.
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| 18:26 | also, would you know why I'm getting 'Error: Ioctl/1.1a failed: Bad file descriptor' on the clients?
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| 18:27 | still seams to work ok with this error :)
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| 18:28 | thank you, your usermod command worked perfectly., any idea on this file descriptor?
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| 18:30 | <Ryan52> ya, and then in 2038 you're gonna get really confused. :)
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| 18:31 | <Memfis> lol, nah this is a test system, doubt it'll be arround that long. I am aiming for a full thin client lan in the near future, just wanted to see how far I could get now :)
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| 18:35 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev Step 4.
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| 18:35 | The ldm socket's name is "ldm_socket_<vt number ldm is running on>_<ip address of server>
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| 18:35 | How do I know what vt number ldm is running on?
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| 18:36 | * Ryan52 wonders if that's even accurate anymore.. | |
| 18:36 | <Ryan52> which version of ubuntu?
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| 18:36 | <Memfis> Xubuntu 8.10 I believe
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| 18:36 | <Ryan52> I think it's changed since then.
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| 18:36 | <Ryan52> Memfis: do "ls /var/run/ldm_*"
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| 18:37 | <Memfis> no such file or directory.... lol
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| 18:37 | <Ryan52> are you logged in from the thin client?
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| 18:38 | it only works if you have a connection.
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| 18:38 | <Memfis> sorry did you want that run on server or client?
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| 18:38 | <Ryan52> run on the client.
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| 18:38 | <Memfis> same result on either client or server.
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| 18:39 | <Ryan52> please answer my question.
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| 18:39 | <Memfis> oh, logged in, sorry didn't realise what you meant.
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| 18:40 | don't think so this time. I'll reboot.
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| 18:40 | <Ryan52> so you're logged in to the server from the thin client?
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| 18:40 | log in as usual...
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| 18:40 | by entering your username and password into ldm.
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| 18:40 | * Ryan52 is confused | |
| 18:41 | <Memfis> this pc = vista :( ssh'd to server. client next to me.
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| 18:41 | <Ryan52> oh
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| 18:41 | * Ryan52 continues to wonder how that's relevent at all.... | |
| 18:43 | <Memfis> you where getting confused. right, client rebooted, logged in, found ldm socket thank you
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| 18:44 | <Ryan52> k
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| 18:45 | <Memfis> ok ran step 4
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| 18:45 | Just says "Error: /media/memfis is not mounted"
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| 18:46 | any way to get debug info on why it didn't mount?
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| 18:51 | can't find anything useful on google.
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| 18:54 | guys?
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| 20:24 | <wortley> Hi, I'm attempting to enable local apps on LTSP on Ubuntu 8.04. I can't find the script /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/examples/ltsp-localapps. Locate can't find it either. Am I missing a package.
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| 20:27 | <wortley> ?
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| 20:30 | <Lns_> wortley: I don't think localapps works in 8.04
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| 20:31 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPLocalAppSetup
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| 20:32 | <wortley> Lns_ Hmm.. I got the instructions from the link you posted.
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| 20:32 | However, at the top of the page it says 8.10. Is this a major change from 8.04 to 8.10?
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| 20:32 | <Lns_> i'm not sure..i've never tried localapps in hardy on any of my servers..
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| 20:35 | <Ryan52> wortley: local apps is a fairly new thing..
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| 20:35 | I think it mostly started at the hackfest last summer..
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| 20:35 | which is after 8.04 was released.
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| 20:35 | (they could have updated the one in hardy, but still, if it says to use 8.10, use 8.10)
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| 20:37 | <wortley> Ryan52 Thank you for the history. I'm new to this, so that is very helpful. I'm thinking about running mythtv as a localapp.
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| 21:21 | <jammcq> hello friends
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| 21:28 | * vagrantc waves | |
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| 22:32 | <rjune_> jammcq: !
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| 22:33 | <lucascoala> howdy
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| 22:42 | <Lns_> hey jammcq
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