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06:51 | <rakesh> hi everybody
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06:51 | <Guest89508> i have an urgent problem regarding LTSP
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06:52 | i have setup an LTSP server with proxy DHCP with dnsmasq
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06:53 | <Guest89508> but when i boot my fat-client, i get an error "error: failed to connect to NBD server"
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06:53 | actually we want to use our L3 switch DHCP(Existing DHCP)
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06:54 | if anybody is there,,plz. help me
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07:08 | <vagrantc> so urgent couldn't wait for a response...
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07:26 | <adminek> Hello Everyone
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07:27 | I have a problem with conectiong to client - "couldn't find suitable pixmap format"
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07:28 | I set in lts.conf depth=16 and it doesn't work
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09:17 | <roces4> hej everybody
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09:19 | how all client shudown in ltsp serwer
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09:19 | automatic shutdown example 23:00
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09:19 | hour
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10:19 | <lifeboy> Hi everyone!
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10:20 | I'm having a strange resurrection of an error as described in this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/505916
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10:22 | <work_alkisg> distro/version?
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10:23 | <lifeboy> the solution to that was to upgrade udhcpc (which is v 0.9.9 in Ubuntu Lucid 10.04) to 1.15, but when I try to install that, I get a message saying busybox is not installed, yet it is.
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10:23 | Ubuntu 10.04 i386 client on 12.04 server
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10:24 | <work_alkisg> OK so it's not a resurrection, the bug was never resolved in 10.04
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10:24 | <lifeboy> It was working fine for a long time now, and suddenly it occurs. Actually I have one server where it's still working fine, but the other not.
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10:25 | I've been comparing versions to see what is different and all seems to be the same, but it clearly isn't
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10:25 | But there was a workaround offered by yourself which I can't get implemented.
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10:27 | Both are using dnsmasq as dhcp server, same version with identical 10.04 i386 chroots. (I copied the working one the other server where it doesn't work).
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10:28 | The thin client hardware is also identical
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10:46 | <lifeboy> I have made the changes to /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-premount/udhcp by removing the -c "$clientid" part and updated initramfs, etc. I still get this response "udhcpc (v0.9.9-pre) started", then "Sending discover..." 3 times and then "No lease, failing" when I boot the client
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10:50 | btw, Alkisg, the option to use the a Debian chroot was proving too difficult for me. I just couldn't get it working properly, which is why I opted for a 10.04 client with the modifications to nbd-server and using -o "quiet splash nbdport=2002" with ltps-update-image.
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12:25 | <markit> hi, ltsp on kubuntu 12.04, greek repos, and latest LibreOffice, FAT clients. Has happend to the teacher (but not to me when I did a test with test accounts) that pupil fire up calc and start entering numbers, and calc "freezes" for about 1 minute and is very slow
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12:26 | I've seen it but thought was due to some weird problems I had in the lan that day (one link of the bond disconnected)
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12:26 | any idea?
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12:27 | fat clients are i3, 4GB ram, diskless (of course)
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12:57 | <gbit> Hello, how much MB a station needs to load when booting?
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12:57 | <alkisg> About 50
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12:57 | <gbit> alkisg: thank you
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12:57 | <alkisg> np
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12:59 | <markit> hi alkisg, just in case it happend to you I ask
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12:59 | "ltsp on kubuntu 12.04, greek repos, and latest LibreOffice, FAT clients. Has happend to the teacher (but not to me when I did a test with test accounts) that pupil fire up calc and start entering numbers, and calc "freezes" for about 1 minute and is very slow"
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12:59 | I've seen it but thought was due to some weird problems I had in the lan that day (one link of the bond disconnected)
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13:00 | this morning the teacher has re-tried to use the lab told me he had this problem again
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13:01 | <markit> btw, yesterday when I updated the system and fixed the bond issue (was unable to find eth1, probably after an update), epoptes seemd really slow to start (running from the server)
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13:01 | in fact I clicked twice and 2 instances started
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13:01 | in the server I'm using not stock kernel but the most recent (raring? whatever ) to make the video adapter work (and it works)
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13:02 | fat clients have "normal" 12.04 kerbekl
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13:02 | (server has linux-image-generic-lts-raring -> 3.8)
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13:04 | <alkisg> markit: no, I haven't heard any teacher here experiencing this
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13:04 | KDE?
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13:07 | <markit> ok, I've asked teh teacher
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13:07 | is a known bug of kde integration, sigh
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13:07 | is when you select and drag cells
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13:07 | alkisg: sorry for the noise, I was desperate :)
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13:07 | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67011
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13:08 | alkisg: btw, just for curiosity, are you going to deploy 14.04 or wait until 12.04 EOL?
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13:08 | and if you will go for 14.04, what DE?
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13:08 | (if you are busy tell me, is just smalltalk)
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13:09 | <alkisg> markit: we prepare LTS releases for schools here the summer after they're out, and we advice schools to use it from september, but only the ones that want to upgrade every 2 years.
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13:09 | Those that upgrade every 4 years stay in the previous one
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13:10 | <markit> alkisg: ok, but new installation will be in 14.04?
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13:10 | I ask to know if I go that road, will have that road opened by you in advance :)
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13:12 | <alkisg> Yes, unless if we find out that it's too unusable with gnome-flashback being out of development
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13:12 | I installed it as my main system at work for testing today, and will probably keep working on it
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13:13 | It does have many bugs, and unfortunately ones that we reported many times in the past
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13:15 | (and mostly they're ubuntu-specific bugs, not upstream ones...)
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13:16 | <markit> sigh
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13:16 | isn't gnome-fallback been removed in 14.04? and what about lxde?
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13:34 | <markit> btw, SquashFS planned improvements, don't understand if will affect ltsp too: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUyMDQ
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13:35 | ok, back to work now, bye see you all later :)
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13:41 | <Hyperbyt1> Hrm, LTSP thin clients aren't reacting to .xinitrc and .xsession on my Ubuntu 12.04 server
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13:41 | Anyone got any tips how to have one user account that just executes an xterm and then nothing?
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13:55 | Whoa
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14:37 | <lifeboy> I have meticulously compared the config of dnsmasq, nbd-server, running services and chroots on the the two servers, one works, the other doesn't. Here are my results http://pastebin.com/1AThMgPt
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14:38 | Anyone have a moment to spare and maybe check if there is something that can be noticed from it?
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14:45 | <lifeboy> I would like to try to upgrade Busybox to 1.15 instead of 0.9.9, but in the chroot I get: dpkg -l busybox -> No packages found matching busybox. Although busybox is there! Can I just overwrite the current busybox files or what should I do?
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14:46 | * lifeboy is hoping that the newer release of busybox and udhcpc may solve the problem | |
14:50 | <lifeboy> alkisg, in the discussion about bug #505916, you explained how to install the later release of udhcpc by using a .deb from busybox, but it can't be done that way. How does one do it? Manually replace the files?
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14:52 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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15:17 | <bennabiy> morning sbalneav
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15:26 | <sbalneav> hey vagrantc, bennabiy
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15:35 | <Simon__> Hi All, I;m using CRONTAB_xx entries in lts.conf (primarily for thin clients reboots). It works fine in 99% cases. But when LTSP server gets restarted in the meantime after thin terminals started and before I want to reboot them by schedule, they (terminals) cannot locate "/sbin/reboot" so they fail to restart
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15:36 | In this case I need to restart them manually as they totally unresponsive after LTSP server reboot
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15:38 | * vagrantc wonders if reboots can be initiated by echoing to some file in /proc or /sys | |
15:39 | <vagrantc> Simon__: i presume you're using NBD?
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15:39 | it's not very resilient in the case of a missing server
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15:39 | <Simon__> yes
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15:39 | <vagrantc> perhaps that's an understatement
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15:40 | <Simon__> The server is down only for the time of reboot and by the time I want to restart thin terminal it is already up... but terminal cannot communicate with it
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15:42 | <alkisg> echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger
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15:42 | <vagrantc> can you adjust the reboot times at all?
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15:42 | alkisg: that might be a good failsafe if we can detect a yanked rootfs
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15:43 | <alkisg> There's also a panic=30 kernel parameter, to automatically reboot 30 secs after a kernel panic
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15:43 | https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
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15:44 | <vagrantc> sure
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15:45 | <Simon__> I never dealt with kernel... do I need to use this parameter in pxelinux.cfg/default
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15:45 | ?
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16:17 | <simon__> I added panic=30 to "append ro initrd=initrd.img-3.5.0-39-generic init=/sbin/init-ltsp quiet panic=30 plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7 root=/dev/nbd0" line in pxelinux.cfg/default but it didn't help... Am I doing something wrong? When LTSP server gets reboot I receive (as before) bunch of SQUASHFS errors
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16:23 | <||cw> panic=30 is only going to apply is it panics. squashfs tossing errors but not crashing won't count as a panic
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16:25 | <simon__> is there any way I can reboot the terminal or run some other script in case of squashfs errors?
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16:26 | <||cw> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/683103
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17:13 | <bennabiy> vagrantc: I think you can force a reboot by echoing a 0 to /proc/ ... cannot remember
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17:13 | <slackish> echo o > /proc/sysrq-trigger
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17:14 | ^dont run that unless if you intend to reboot unsafely
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17:14 | oh no, o is off.. still early in the morning
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17:15 | you want to do b
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17:27 | <bennabiy> slackish, that is right
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17:28 | it is something along the line of a last resort
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17:32 | <vagrantc> for thin clients, it's generally mostly safe
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18:58 | <bennabiy> true
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18:58 | Just have to make sure you send it to the right /proc
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19:07 | <alkisg> https://github.com/yoe/nbd/commit/6abdd46853f475aa917551d43197410a99fd09ce => nbd-client: try harder to reconnect in persist mode
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19:07 | That should help a lot with server restarts ;)
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19:08 | ...and with client stability on problematic networks too
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19:10 | * alkisg wonders if he can just install nbd-client and nbd-server from 14.04 to 12.04... :) | |
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19:12 | <bennabiy> alkisg: just check the package deps
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19:12 | <bennabiy> you might be able to
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19:12 | <alkisg> It might needs something newer from the nbd kernel module, too... I'll probably have to just install it and see if it works
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19:12 | <gbit> Hello, how can I change ldm "Username" and Preferences Menu to another language?
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19:13 | <alkisg> distro/version?
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19:17 | <gbit> debian/wheezy
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19:17 | <alkisg> which language, e.g. el_GR.UTF-8 ?
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19:17 | <gbit> pt_BR
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19:18 | here is my lts.conf http://pastebin.com/e6dWnkXU
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19:18 | but still in english
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19:19 | <gbit> I looked at /opt/ltsp/i386/ldm/themes/ too but with no success
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19:19 | <alkisg> ls /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/ldm.mo
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19:19 | I don't see pt_BR there, let me look in launchpad translations...
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19:20 | Ah sorry it's in pt
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19:21 | <gbit> Should I copy it to pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES?
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19:22 | <alkisg> No, it's empty
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19:22 | https://translations.launchpad.net/ltsp/ldm-trunk/+lang/pt_BR
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19:22 | Start there, translate ldm to your language :)
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19:23 | I don't know if plain "pt" may help you or not: https://translations.launchpad.net/ltsp/ldm-trunk/+lang/pt
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19:23 | <gbit> thank you alkisg
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19:23 | <alkisg> np
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19:24 | You might also want to translate ltsp: https://translations.launchpad.net/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/+lang/pt_BR
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19:24 | <vagrantc> the pt_BR translations were lagging, last i recall
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19:25 | <alkisg> gbit: when you're done, tell me to enable translations commits, so that vagrantc includes them in his next debian upload...
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19:25 | <vagrantc> yeah, that'd be good
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19:26 | <gbit> OK
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23:34 | <gbit> vagrantc: I have done translating
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23:38 | <vagrantc> ah, great.
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23:38 | alkisg: you hear that?
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23:39 | <vagrantc> i should probably learn how to pull the translations someday.
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23:44 | <gbit> Than I downloaded the file, copy to /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES/ldm.mo but still in english, do you have any ideas why?
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23:47 | <vagrantc> did you rebuild your imagee?
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23:47 | and you downloaded an .mo file?
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