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Channel log from 29 May 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:53 | <Paul_UK> hey there, is there an how-to to get things up and running with ltsp and ubuntu 7?
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| 03:54 | <vagrantc> !quickinstall
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| 03:54 | <ltspbot`> vagrantc: Error: "quickinstall" is not a valid command.
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| 03:54 | <Paul_UK> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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| 03:54 | <vagrantc> ltspbot`: factoids search --values
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| 03:54 | <ltspbot`> vagrantc: 'ltsp', 'sbalneav', 'icewm', 'frappr', 'wiki', 'debian', 'edubuntu', 'dhcpd', 'greyscreen', 'ltsp42', 'localdev', 'localdev', 'localdev', 'checklist', 'muekow', 'bestltspdistro', 'serversize', 'wireless', 'sound', 'topics', 'integration', 'lts.conf', 'pastebot', 'bootfloppy', 'ltsp5', 'tarball', 'download', 'monkeys', 'ogra', 'nfs', 'nfsnotresp', 'js', 's', 'troubleshooting', 'sbnet', (1 more message)
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| 03:54 | <vagrantc> Paul_UK: yeah, that.
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| 03:55 | <Paul_UK> lol, my beef is, on the ubuntu server page, it looks to me, its saying its already installed. im guessing its not.
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| 03:55 | <vagrantc> "ubuntu server page" ?
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| 03:55 | <Paul_UK> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition
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| 03:56 | Hmm, maybe they should have offered LTSP as part of the installing process, as they have DNS and LAMP. oh well.
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| 03:58 | <vagrantc> well, just a couple weeks ago, we were talking about how to integrate LTSP into ubuntu server at the ubuntu developer summit ...
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| 03:58 | <Paul_UK> oh crap, now its saying starting dhcp server, i already have one heh
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| 03:58 | <vagrantc> but as i understand it, it's currently no more integrated into ubuntu server than plain ol ubuntu
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| 03:58 | <Paul_UK> right
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| 04:01 | * vagrantc notes that the ubuntu server edition tries to capitalize on debian's reputation for stability while ubuntu desktop doesn't even mention debian | |
| 04:02 | <Paul_UK> well i just think there is no current centos distribution. its one that im using here.
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| 04:02 | <vagrantc> centos distrubution of what?
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| 04:03 | <Paul_UK> ltsp
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| 04:03 | or status or whatever lol, sorry need more coffee. not really wake
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| 04:03 | <vagrantc> ah yes. thus far only ubuntu and debian for LTSP 5 ... so far
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| 04:04 | always looking for folks from other distros to fix that, of course :)
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| 04:04 | <Paul_UK> well, if i can get it working and the pilot seems to go well. i will give it a go. i'll be rolling out 50 thin clients in a call center environment.
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| 04:17 | <envite> Hello all from Spain
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| 04:17 | Hola a todos desde España
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| 04:17 | <vagrantc> buenos dias
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| 04:18 | <envite> buenos días vagrantc
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| 04:18 | <dberkholz> i wish i spent all day working on ltsp5
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| 04:18 | instead i got to fix a totally broken build system in a scientific program, and unbundle another one
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| 04:18 | <vagrantc> yo no tengo teclado de í :(
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| 04:19 | <dberkholz> but on the bright side, the unbundling clears up licensing issues so we can GPL it later
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| 04:20 | <vagrantc> good good
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| 04:21 | <envite> bueno, vagrantc, no es tan grave ;)
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| 04:22 | I used to have a knote or a text file in my desktop with all spanish special characters, to copy-paste with the mouse, when I worked on american computers
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| 04:22 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 04:23 | yeah, i need that
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| 04:23 | <dberkholz> compose key..
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| 04:23 | <vagrantc> ?
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| 04:24 | i know there's some way to configure key combinations...
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| 04:24 | <dberkholz> compose, i + `
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| 04:24 | where compose key is controlled by xorg.conf something like Option "XkbOptions" "compose:menu" in the keyboard section
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| 04:25 | probably setxkbmap -option "compose:menu" if you want to change without restarting X
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| 04:26 | then hit menu, i, ` to get an i with grave
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| 04:26 | * vagrantc has no "menu" key | |
| 04:26 | <dberkholz> there are other options
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| 04:26 | <f3ew> meta
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| 04:26 | <dberkholz> compose:rwin compose:rctrl compose:ralt etc
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| 04:28 | * vagrantc has no luck | |
| 04:29 | <vagrantc> `
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| 04:29 | <dberkholz> oh you've gotta have utf8 properly set up all the way through too
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| 04:29 | <vagrantc> well, i've got that
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| 04:29 | <dberkholz> readline-5, screen, irssi is what i need
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| 04:29 | <vagrantc> well ... i don't know what "all the way is"
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| 04:30 | <dberkholz> all with their own bits
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| 04:30 | well, readline you just need >=5, no config needed.
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| 04:31 | * vagrantc suspects something amiss with the setxkbmap | |
| 04:32 | <dberkholz> try setxkbmap -print and see if it shows up
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| 04:32 | <vagrantc> didn't show up, no
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| 04:32 | <dberkholz> guess it didn't get in there, then.
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| 04:33 | * vagrantc can't read | |
| 04:34 | <vagrantc> so, it was in there.
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| 04:34 | but now it's really screwed up
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| 04:34 | xkb_symbols { include "pc(pc105)+us+compose(menu)+compose(rctrl)"};
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| 04:34 | <dberkholz> heh, you've got 2 compose keys. nice.
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| 04:34 | <vagrantc> one of which i don't even have
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| 04:35 | though at one point, it was just ... xkb_symbols { include "pc(pc105)+us+compose(rctrl)"};
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| 04:35 | but it still didn't work
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| 04:35 | <dberkholz> shouldn't affect your ability to use the other one
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| 04:35 | how about a different combo, like rctrl, o, /
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| 04:35 | should give that norse o with a slash through it
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| 04:36 | note those are not pressed at the same time but in sequence
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| 04:36 | <vagrantc> no dice.
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| 04:36 | <envite> ¿how do you use compose?
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| 04:36 | <dberkholz> Ãdoes it work in a terminal outside of irc?
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| 04:36 | <envite> because it's not supossed to be pressed while you press the letter, but before
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| 04:37 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: i'm trying in rxvt-unicode
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| 04:37 | <dberkholz> one would hope that could handle it without too much effort
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| 04:38 | i'm just using gnome-terminal
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| 04:38 | <vagrantc> the interesting thing is ... it doesn't print any character when i do it ... so it's obviously trying to do something
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| 04:38 | <dberkholz> that sounds like you might not have utf8 working properly for it
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| 04:38 | <vagrantc> hrm.
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| 04:39 | utf8 works for everything else...
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| 04:39 | <dberkholz> another option is you have a font missing those chars
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| 04:39 | <vagrantc> or at least, i have no trouble reading utf8 characters
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| 04:39 | <dberkholz> more likely with bitmap fonts than ttf/type1
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| 04:39 | can you see e.g. ø
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| 04:39 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: looks like an A with a ~ on top
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| 04:40 | <dberkholz> one of us must be in iso8859-1 instead of utf8
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| 04:40 | er, 8559-1, whatever
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| 04:40 | <envite> well
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| 04:40 | <vagrantc> locale spits out en_US.UTF-8
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| 04:40 | <Q-FUNK> ÃĀ
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| 04:41 | <envite> I am in UTF-8
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| 04:41 | and this ? is a inverted question mark
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| 04:41 | sorry
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| 04:41 | this ¿
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| 04:41 | <Q-FUNK> ¿
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| 04:41 | <dberkholz> heh, looks like it's probably my irc that's screwy.
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| 04:41 | <envite> dberkholz: can be
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| 04:42 | <dberkholz> brb
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| 04:42 | <envite> most irc clients are codechar configurable independently of the locale
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| 04:42 | <envite> because you must cope not with user, but with peers
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| 04:42 | so, i tipically use utf-8 in freenode but 8859-15 in Irc-Hispano
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| 04:42 | <Q-FUNK> Я тебя хочу
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| 04:43 | <envite> cool russian lettes :)
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| 04:43 | Я тебя хочу
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| 04:43 | <vagrantc> ok, back to LTSP hacking... :)
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| 04:43 | <vanya> :))
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| 04:43 | <dberkholz> ø
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| 04:43 | <envite> hehehehehehhe
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| 04:43 | <dberkholz> is that a norse o-slash?
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| 04:43 | <envite> i see that
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| 04:44 | <Q-FUNK> yup
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| 04:44 | <dberkholz> good. screen -U for the win
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| 04:44 | <Q-FUNK> äöüæøœå
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| 04:44 | <dberkholz> anyhow, i highly recommend getting compose keys working, it's a lot more logical than the somewhat arbitrary other way of typing special chars
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| 04:44 | <vanya> ну тоді і з України привіт :)
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| 04:44 | <dberkholz> with level3 shifts
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| 04:45 | <Q-FUNK> добро
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| 04:45 | amazing how southern slavic ended up with real i, compared to russian and bulgarian
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| 04:45 | <vagrantc> ah, tasty screen -U
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| 04:46 | i can use screen on the console again
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| 04:47 | <dberkholz> weird, i need to pass -U even when reconnecting
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| 05:33 | <vagrantc_> in case it didn't make it to the channel the first time ... i wonder if that person who couldn't get floppies and CDs to work with ltspfs on debian was being bitten by missing lsof
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| 07:46 | <Guaraldo> jammcq: good morning... How do you do?
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| 07:47 | <jammcq> hey Guaraldo
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| 07:47 | <cliebow> jammcq!!!
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| 07:48 | <Guaraldo> jammcq: I'm having some trouble with keyboard change on clients... Let me explain:
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| 07:51 | <Guaraldo> clients have 3 kind of keyboard: us(intl), br(intl) and abnt2.
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| 07:51 | but, as keyboads get broken very often, it can change for each client...
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| 07:52 | so, jammcq, we made an script to change the keyboad, and it used to work very well on LTSP 4.1...
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| 07:53 | <vagrantc_> change the keyboard on boot?
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| 07:54 | <Guaraldo> vagrantc_: No... after login...
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| 07:54 | <vagrantc_> ah
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| 07:54 | doesn't work anymore?
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| 07:54 | <Guaraldo> it's a little command: setxkbmap -model abnt2 -layout br -print | xkbcomp - $DISPLAY
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| 07:55 | vagrantc_: that's the problem... after upgrading to LTSP 4.2, the xkbcomp drop client X...
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| 07:56 | <vagrantc_> oh, upgrading *to* 4.2 ...
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| 07:56 | <Guaraldo> vagrantc_: It was LTSP 4.1
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| 07:56 | <vagrantc_> got it
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| 07:56 | i was thinking it was a 4.2 -> 5 issue ... i'm off the hook :)
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| 07:57 | <Guaraldo> Ok... thanks, vagrantc_...
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| 07:57 | <vagrantc_> thanks for passing the buck? :)
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| 07:58 | <Guaraldo> vagrantc_: Thanks to listen... :-D
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| 07:58 | <vagrantc_> hopefully it works when you get around to upgrading to LTSP 5 :)
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| 07:59 | Guaraldo: what distro are your servers running?
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| 07:59 | * vagrantc_ wonders if it's an XFree86 / X.org incompatibility | |
| 07:59 | <Guaraldo> vagrantc_: Ubuntu...
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| 07:59 | <vagrantc_> probably not, then.
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| 08:03 | <Guaraldo> vagrantc_: Not only drop client's X, but you can't type anything else... You must reboot client to get back to control...
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| 08:03 | <vagrantc_> a significant useability issue, yes.
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| 08:06 | <Guaraldo> jammcq: any idea?
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| 08:07 | * Guaraldo is a kind of lost... | |
| 08:09 | <Guaraldo> I thought could be the xkbcomp binary... changed it by the LTSP version... It was a bad idea... it locked the client at all...
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| 08:09 | got back to the ubuntu version...
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| 08:11 | <Guaraldo> Ops... I was dopped!
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| 09:02 | <sbalneav> Morning all.
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| 09:03 | <ogra> !s
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| 09:03 | <ltspbot`> ogra: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:03 | <cliebow> sbalneav, !!!
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| 09:03 | <sbalneav> Morning ogra!
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| 09:21 | <vagrantc_> sbalneav: heya
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| 09:21 | <sbalneav> Hey there!
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| 09:21 | How's it going?
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| 09:22 | Man, that Jan Kunder's been keeping me busy in the mailing list :)
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| 09:23 | He sorta forgot to mention a vital piece of info right at the beginning: that his chroot was installed in /opt/ltsp-500-blah-blah, and not /opt/ltsp
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| 09:24 | the ltsp-build-chroot script uses export BASE=${BASE:-/opt/ltsp}
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| 09:24 | <rjune-isis> doh
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| 09:24 | <sbalneav> We should probably do the same thing for ltsp-update-sshkeys, and ltsp-update-kernels as well.
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| 09:24 | <vagrantc_> i really need to start preparing for my LTSP talk at debconf7
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| 09:25 | <sbalneav> Then we could tell people: if you want to maintain/install other than /opt/ltsp, BASE=/opt/ltsp-blah-blah ltsp-update-sshkeys, etc.
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| 09:25 | <vagrantc_> yes.
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| 09:26 | <sbalneav> 5 minutes for some slides, that's all you need :)
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| 09:26 | <vagrantc_> i slowly worked some of those hooks in, but it's been a slow process of variabalizing hard-coded values
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| 09:26 | <sbalneav> I could take a look at some of those.
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| 09:26 | <vagrantc_> please do! :)
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| 09:27 | maybe we should drop commandline options for that stuff entirely, and require a configuration file instead, as the configuration needs to stay even after you've run the command.
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| 09:28 | sbalneav: now the talk is coming closer ... i don't even know what to say exactly.
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| 09:28 | :)
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| 09:29 | <sbalneav> "Things are progressing nicely"
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| 09:29 | "All is well, citizen"
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| 09:29 | :)
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| 09:30 | <vagrantc_> GAH! i am so sick of my messages not getting to pkg-ltsp-devel.
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| 09:30 | <jammcq> !s
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| 09:30 | <ltspbot`> jammcq: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:30 | <sbalneav> Morning jammcq!
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| 09:31 | <jammcq> what's up homie
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| 09:32 | <sbalneav> Coding coding coding!
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| 09:32 | Hey, should we get RW tickets this week?
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| 09:33 | <jammcq> sbalneav: yeah, that, and Portland travel arrangements need to be made
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| 09:34 | <sbalneav> yep
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| 09:36 | <ogra> mumble, i still cant get the e2300 faster than 113 secs
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| 09:37 | the last thng that gained me 10 secs (and got me usplash back) is forcing the sisfb modul to load
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| 09:40 | <jammcq> ogra: have you tried the different scheduler yet?
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| 09:40 | * ogra wonders why it loads the pci htplug modules | |
| 09:40 | <ogra> *hotplug
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| 09:41 | jammcq, yes, the anticipatory scheduler is only minimally faster 3-5 secs
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| 09:41 | <jammcq> bummer
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| 09:41 | * jammcq was hoping for a magic bullet | |
| 09:41 | <ogra> the boost i saw on the classmate seems not to happen on the e2300
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| 09:42 | <vagrantc_> probably network is not as big of a deal as on a USB device
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| 09:42 | <ogra> yeah, indeed
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| 09:43 | <ogra-classmate> http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~abe/MicroClientJr/ he seems to be quite happy with it booting from a local disk
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| 09:43 | and etchs kernel
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| 09:44 | i could build a squashfs from the chroot, but that will have other speed issues so its not really comparable
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| 09:53 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: H, Scotty...
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| 09:53 | <sbalneav> Hey Guaraldo
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| 09:53 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: How do you do, man?
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| 09:54 | <sbalneav> Delving into the mysteries of select(2) :)
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| 09:54 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: I'm having some trouble with keybord selection after login on LTSP 4.2 over Ubuntu dapper...
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| 09:55 | <jammcq> select(2) is a wonderful system call. /me has done LOTS of select() programming
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| 09:55 | <sbalneav> Yep, lots of fun.
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| 09:56 | Guaraldo: I think, if I remember correctly, ltsp 4.2 had some problems with the keyboard files it shipped with.
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| 09:56 | jammcq: You remember something about this?
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| 09:56 | There was something we had to do. Hmmmm....
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| 09:56 | * sbalneav thinks | |
| 09:57 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: On LTSP4.1 we used this command line to change: setxkbmap -model abnt2 -layout br -print | xkbcomp - $DISPLAY
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| 09:58 | It used to work very well... on LTSP4.2 it gives me many warning messages then drop client's X and block keyboard...
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| 09:59 | <sbalneav> Yeah, hmm
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| 09:59 | ummm, check the ltsp-discuss mailing list archives, I think someone solved this.
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| 09:59 | Crumb, can't for the life of me remember what it was.
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| 10:00 | * Guaraldo is searching... | |
| 10:07 | <sbalneav> Hm
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| 10:37 | <jammcq> sbalneav: i really don't remember that problem
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| 10:39 | <sbalneav> There was something with the compiled keymaps
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| 10:39 | had something to do with xkbcomp
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| 10:39 | <jammcq> i'm thinking that was long before 4.2
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| 10:39 | like 4.0
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| 10:39 | <sbalneav> hmm
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| 10:39 | <jammcq> when we switched from XFree86 to Xorg
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| 10:59 | <powernet> hi all, anyone may help me in a ltsp configuration ?
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| 11:03 | <powernet> anyone there ?
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| 11:04 | <cliebow> powernet spit er out..maybe someone can help
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| 11:05 | <powernet> local usb stick on lts any idea
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| 11:05 | ?
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| 11:05 | no way to view ?
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| 11:05 | <cliebow> what version..
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| 11:05 | <powernet> 5
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| 11:05 | on ubuntu 7.04
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| 11:05 | standard installation
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| 11:06 | the rest seem's to be ok
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| 11:06 | <cliebow> ogra is prob the one to snag..
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| 11:06 | <powernet> i've read someting about sbalneaves
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| 11:07 | <cliebow> sbalneav rocks!!!
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| 11:07 | <powernet> :)
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| 11:08 | in 4.2 there is a way to do it, in 5.0 not ?
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| 11:09 | <cliebow> this is on a terminal?
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| 11:09 | <powernet> usb stick on terminal and mounted in some way on server for use it on client
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| 11:10 | <sbalneav> powernet: Should work on both 4.2 and 5
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| 11:10 | <powernet> (sorry for my bad english)
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| 11:10 | <cliebow> have you tried the ten step..THERE he si
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| 11:10 | <sbalneav> I have to pop out to a meeting right at the moment, should be back in an hour or so.
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| 11:10 | <powernet> wow
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| 11:10 | ok np i'm here
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| 11:10 | <cliebow> use the ten step,scottie?
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| 11:10 | <powernet> thank a lot
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| 11:19 | <powernet> what's the 'ten step procedure?'
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| 11:20 | <cliebow> sec
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| 11:21 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev#Troubleshooting
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| 11:21 | <powernet> i'll check ... thanks
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| 11:21 | <cliebow> sure
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| 11:41 | <powernet> cliebow: i've made some conf in the document .. i try to restart both server and client
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| 11:42 | i cross my finger
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| 12:10 | <Gadi> sbalneav: ping
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| 12:15 | <sbalneav> Gadi: ICMP ECHO REPLY
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| 12:15 | <Gadi> ack
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| 12:15 | so...
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| 12:16 | is this a true statement: if the USB stick is plugged in on boot, feistyLTSP won't see it until it is unplugged and replugged to generate the udev event?
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| 12:16 | <sbalneav> Well,
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| 12:17 | it SHOULDN'T be a true statement
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| 12:17 | when udev starts, it should enumerate everything that's in the box.
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| 12:17 | so if it's NOT doing that, I'd expect it's a bug.
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| 12:18 | <Gadi> does it get covered under the delayted_mount code you have?
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| 12:18 | <sbalneav> Now, is UDEV not seeing it, or is it that the LTSP scripts are being fired when things aren't plumbed enough to work.
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| 12:18 | It should, yeah
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| 12:18 | <Gadi> ok
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| 12:18 | I havent investigated too much, just playing with some things and wanted to know what to expect
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| 12:18 | <sbalneav> I mean, it works for IDE cdroms which is pretty much the same thing.
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| 12:18 | so if it's not working for usb sticks, that's a problem.
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| 12:19 | <Gadi> ok
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| 12:19 | no complaints, I take it yet
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| 12:19 | <sbalneav> Not that I've heard.
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| 12:19 | Are you complaining? :)
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| 12:19 | <Gadi> nope
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| 12:19 | <sbalneav> Then no, I've heard nothing :)
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| 12:19 | <Gadi> :)
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| 12:19 | youve tested with USB cdroms, right?
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| 12:20 | * sbalneav wipes brow | |
| 12:20 | <sbalneav> whew
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| 12:20 | <Gadi> so that should be the same
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| 12:20 | <sbalneav> yep
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| 12:20 | we did.
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| 12:20 | yeah
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| 12:20 | <Gadi> because you prolly had a cd in the cdrom on boot
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| 12:20 | tho, I suppose that has the whole cdpinger thing
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| 12:20 | i dunno
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| 12:20 | <sbalneav> yeh
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| 12:20 | <Gadi> i guess i'll jump over that bridge when I get to it ;)
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| 12:21 | * Gadi wishes if he knew if he won yesterday's bet | |
| 12:22 | * Gadi also wishes he could type whats in his head | |
| 12:22 | <Gadi> ;)
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| 12:22 | <sbalneav> What was the bet yesterday?
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| 12:22 | <Gadi> someone had the ole I get bounced to the login screen when I try to login on a fresh install
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| 12:23 | my bet was that he did not have ltspfs installed
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| 12:23 | which he did not
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| 12:23 | but, I didnt see the resolution
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| 12:23 | <powernet> hi, i've problem with local devices
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| 12:23 | <Gadi> on Feisty, the ssh keys are usually taken care of
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| 12:24 | but, it also sets localdev by default, even if the server has no ltspfs
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| 12:24 | which can cause the login to barf
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| 12:24 | in my experience
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| 12:24 | powernet: what version of LTSP? and what problem?
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| 12:24 | <powernet> 5
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| 12:24 | <powernet> no remote view of a local usb stick
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| 12:25 | <Gadi> do you have ltspfs installed on the server?
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| 12:25 | dpkg -l ltspfs
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| 12:25 | <powernet> 1st time on ltsp
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| 12:25 | i'll check
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| 12:26 | mmm may not
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| 12:27 | <Blinny> jammcq: ping
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| 12:27 | <Gadi> powernet: install ltspfs
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| 12:27 | <powernet> done
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| 12:27 | <Gadi> you may be illustrating a point I was just making :)
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| 12:27 | restart the terminal
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| 12:27 | <powernet> ok
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| 12:27 | <Gadi> and log back in
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| 12:28 | <powernet> switch on another machine
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| 12:28 | <Gadi> weird - I promise I didn't plant him in the audience
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| 12:31 | <powernet> system restarted
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| 12:32 | mmm nothing change ... server devices on desktop
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| 12:34 | Gadi:any idea ?
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| 12:34 | <Gadi> are the users part of the "fuse" group?
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| 12:34 | <powernet> yse
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| 12:35 | yes
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| 12:35 | wich daemon take care of the usbstik in local thin client ?
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| 12:36 | <Gadi> its a combination of things, but before you check daemons: do you have LOCALDEV=True in lts.conf?
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| 12:36 | <powernet> yes LOCALDEV = Y
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| 12:37 | sorry =True
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| 12:37 | and LOCAL_STORAGE=Y
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| 12:38 | <Gadi> you should only need LOCALDEV=True
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| 12:38 | for LTSP5
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| 12:38 | <powernet> ok i remove LOCAL_STORAGE
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| 12:39 | <Gadi> on the server, try: lsmod|grep fuse
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| 12:40 | <powernet> done
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| 12:40 | <Gadi> make sure the module is loaded
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| 12:40 | <sbalneav> powernet: Before we go any further, what distro are you using?
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| 12:40 | <powernet> yes it's loaded
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| 12:40 | ubuntu 7.04
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| 12:42 | both the server and the client have same name (hostname) it's normal ?
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| 12:47 | <sbalneav> Yes, should be normal
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| 12:47 | Could you paste the lts.conf file you're using to the pastebot?
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| 12:47 | !pastebot
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| 12:47 | <ltspbot`> sbalneav: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 12:48 | <powernet> mmm i try
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| 12:48 | !pastebot [default]
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| 12:48 | SOUND=True
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| 12:48 | LOCALDEV=True
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| 12:48 | NBD_SWAP=True
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| 12:48 | SYSLOG=server
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| 12:48 | <ltspbot`> powernet: Error: "pastebot" is not a valid command.
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| 12:49 | <powernet> i'm a dumb
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| 12:49 | so the file is more or less this
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| 12:50 | fresh ubuntu 7.04 installation
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| 12:50 | <ltsppbot> "powernet" pasted "[default] SOUND=True LOCALDEV=" (5 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/149
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| 12:55 | <powernet> but username on client environment (/opt/ltsp/i386/passwd) should exist ?
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| 13:00 | ...
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| 13:00 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: I can't see the ltsp-discuss... Error 500 (Internal Server Error)... :-/
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| 13:01 | <powernet> :(
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| 13:02 | <Gadi> powernet: what device exactly are you using?
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| 13:02 | for removable media
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| 13:02 | <powernet> usbstick
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| 13:02 | but same for cdrom or floppy
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| 13:02 | <Gadi> do you know if it is partitioned?
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| 13:02 | ah
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| 13:02 | <powernet> if i mount it it's ok on local
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| 13:03 | <Gadi> should be fine
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| 13:03 | <powernet> on desktop i've icon of server devices only
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| 13:06 | what process need to be up in server and client ?
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| 13:06 | (for remote mounting)
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| 13:07 | <Gadi> if you add: SCREEN_07=ldm and SCREEN_02=shell to lts.conf and reboot the terminal, you can switch to the shell on ctrl-alt-f2
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| 13:07 | that can help troubleshoot
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| 13:07 | <powernet> i can switch now with ctrl-alt-f1
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| 13:08 | working
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| 13:08 | <Gadi> but you have no login on the client
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| 13:08 | there are no users on the client
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| 13:08 | <powernet> i've root login
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| 13:08 | <Gadi> you shouldnt
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| 13:08 | unless you added it
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| 13:08 | <powernet> i've add sudo passwd
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| 13:08 | :)
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| 13:08 | <Gadi> ah, ok
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| 13:09 | check for ltspfsd
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| 13:09 | on the client
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| 13:09 | <powernet> on client ?
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| 13:09 | ok
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| 13:09 | <Gadi> also check that on the client, you have folders created in /var/run/drives/
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| 13:09 | <Blinny> Of the thin-clients at disklessworkstations.com, which ones use an accelerated server and don't require the install of any special settings/software?
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| 13:11 | <powernet> ltspfsd is up with -a param and in /var/run/driver have floppy cdrom and usbfloppy-sda1
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| 13:11 | sorry floppy0
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| 13:13 | all the dir are empty
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| 13:13 | <Gadi> thats correct
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| 13:13 | <powernet> good
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| 13:14 | <Gadi> ok, after you login through ldm and are at your desktop, open a terminal window and type: ls /media
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| 13:14 | <powernet> gdm is the same ?
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| 13:14 | (gnome env)
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| 13:14 | <Gadi> you're not using gdm - the login screen is called "ldm" and is running locally (just looks like gdm)
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| 13:14 | ;)
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| 13:16 | <powernet> :) ok the /media have cdrom0 floppy0 sdb1 and ubuntu7.04 (server devices i think)
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| 13:17 | <Gadi> hmm
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| 13:18 | no subdirectories under /media?
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| 13:18 | what is your username?
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| 13:18 | <powernet> yes all this are subdirectory
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| 13:18 | alex
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| 13:19 | .hal-mtab is referred to ubuntu cdrom
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| 13:20 | <Gadi> ls -a /tmp/.alex*
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| 13:21 | on the server
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| 13:21 | <powernet> are floppy0 and usbfloppy-sda1 dir
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| 13:22 | may be client devices this
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| 13:22 | <Gadi> those should be
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| 13:22 | yes
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| 13:23 | <powernet> mmm good
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| 13:23 | <Gadi> but, you should also have a /media/alex folder
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| 13:23 | <powernet> check
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| 13:23 | no
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| 13:23 | <cliebow> yeas?
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| 13:24 | <powernet> no
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| 13:24 | nothing
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| 13:24 | who create this ?
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| 13:24 | <Gadi> when you login through ldm, a script called ltspfsmounter is called
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| 13:25 | <powernet> ok i check if it is
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| 13:25 | <Gadi> which creates the dirs in /tmp, in media, and connects everything back to the client
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| 13:25 | <Gadi> try: cat /proc/mounts|grep ltspfs
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| 13:25 | <powernet> in server ?
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| 13:25 | <Gadi> you should have an ltspfs mount
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| 13:25 | on the server
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| 13:25 | if not, then the ltspfs mount failed for some reason
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| 13:26 | <powernet> aren't
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| 13:26 | <Gadi> powernet: can you reboot the server?
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| 13:26 | try starting with a fresh reboot all around
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| 13:27 | <powernet> yes i do
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| 13:27 | done -- rebooting
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| 13:29 | this is the second time i install the server, the first i've doing someting wrong because i've use this also for serving an sunray 100 thin client
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| 13:34 | <powernet> arrghh started live ubuntu... going on the other room
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| 13:35 | ok ready
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| 13:37 | :)))) work
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| 13:38 | floppy and usb icons on desktop
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| 13:39 | i can read both
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| 13:40 | :( what is wrong before ?? i hate this
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| 13:40 | <Gadi> :)
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| 13:40 | prolly the server just wasnt ready for you :)
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| 13:41 | <powernet> no may be not restarted upon ltspfs installation
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| 13:41 | <Gadi> enjoy
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| 13:42 | <powernet> i'm very happy for your help
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| 13:42 | where are you from ?
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| 13:43 | <Gadi> New York
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| 13:43 | <cliebow> maine
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| 13:43 | <Gadi> I would say USA, but we're really our own country
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| 13:43 | ;)
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| 13:43 | <cliebow> so are we
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| 13:44 | <Gadi> yeah, we go to war all the time
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| 13:44 | with Maine
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| 13:44 | <powernet> wow, i'm gone in 99 an 2000, i'm italian and if you went i'm offer a fresh beer... thank's a lot
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| 13:44 | <cliebow> theirt insurgents drive cars with ny plates 8~)
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| 13:44 | <Gadi> mangia!
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| 13:44 | <powernet> ahah
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| 13:44 | <Gadi> which part of italia?
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| 13:45 | <powernet> tuscany middle of
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| 13:45 | near florence and siena
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| 13:45 | <cliebow> is ther good beer?
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| 13:45 | <Gadi> ooh... I LOVE Siena
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| 13:46 | <powernet> not as north of europe
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| 13:46 | you now?
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| 13:46 | you know?
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| 13:46 | <Gadi> one of my favorite vacations...
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| 13:46 | :)
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| 13:46 | <powernet> when ?
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| 13:46 | <Gadi> hmm... 2001
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| 13:46 | was last
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| 13:46 | <powernet> wow
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| 13:46 | <Gadi> we spent 3 weeks
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| 13:47 | <powernet> when i'm on NY
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| 13:47 | 8-)
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| 13:47 | <Gadi> excelente!
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| 13:47 | <powernet> you know Montepulciano?
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| 13:47 | <Gadi> is that near San Gimingiano?
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| 13:47 | <powernet> 70km
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| 13:48 | near Pienza
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| 13:48 | <Gadi> ah
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| 13:48 | <powernet> i wos born in Montepulciano and live there
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| 13:48 | <Gadi> nice. pretty. :) ok, basta! Back to work... ;)
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| 13:49 | <cliebow> sounds like a great place for and ltsp dev conf
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| 13:49 | <powernet> ok
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| 13:49 | if you need something from Italy this is my email
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| 13:49 | alessandro.frati@gmail.com
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| 13:49 | ops ...public
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| 13:50 | <Gadi> heh, grazie!
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| 13:50 | <powernet> i hope no need more help and dont' disturd more
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| 13:50 | grazie a te
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| 13:50 | and sorry for my bad english
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| 13:50 | !!
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| 13:50 | <ltspbot`> powernet: Error: "!" is not a valid command.
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| 13:50 | <cliebow> weare here to please
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| 13:50 | <sahil> is there anyway to check what specific xorg.conf the clients are using also checks the logs?
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| 13:51 | <powernet> if you have a user in it switch in console and check in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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| 13:52 | <sahil> thats not the xorg.conf on the server?
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| 13:52 | <powernet> no
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| 13:52 | <sahil> and tmp/xorg.log is also the client one?
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| 13:52 | <powernet> dinamically created i suppose
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| 13:54 | but i'm a newbie
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| 13:56 | so i have dinner ... thank a lot to all specially Gadi,cliebow and sbalneav
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| 13:56 | bye
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| 13:56 | <sahil> i keep loading vesa for some reason
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| 13:56 | <powernet> you can force a specific driver in ltsp.conf
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| 13:56 | lts.conf
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| 16:20 | <KeepW> hi, how can i pass 2 parameters to kernel via option-129 on dhcpd.conf?
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| 16:22 | <jammcq> KeepW: put them both in the option-129 parameter
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| 16:22 | option option-129 "NIC=3c509 vga=773";
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| 16:22 | take a look at the following wiki page for more examples:
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| 16:22 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/KernelOptions
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| 16:29 | <maximi89> hi
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| 16:29 | why can be the terminals can't download vmlinuz
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| 16:32 | http://pastebin.ca/520198
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| 16:32 | that is the /etc/exports
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| 16:35 | <str4nd> wooooot....
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| 17:25 | <GodFather> ping jammcq
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| 17:46 | <pablo_> hi how do i uninstall ltsp5 and install ltsp 4.2?
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| 17:46 | or they can live toghether?
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| 17:47 | <Burgundavia> why would you want to do that?
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| 17:47 | <jammcq> yes, they can live together
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| 17:47 | <pablo_> because ltsp5 is so much slow. ltsp4.2 was much faster in terms of speed.
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| 17:47 | <jammcq> when you go to install ltsp-4.2, just tell it to install in a different location, like /opt/ltsp-4.2
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| 17:47 | <pablo_> booting clients in 4.2 took 22 secs
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| 17:47 | in ltsp5 takes more than a minute
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| 17:48 | jammcq: and after that i only have to edit dhcp.conf? is that ok??
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| 17:49 | or do i need to make any other changes?
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| 17:50 | <jammcq> pablo_: you'll need to also have entries for both in your /etc/exports file
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| 17:52 | <pablo_> the install/configure process of 4.2 will do that for me or ill have to edit it myself?
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| 17:53 | <jammcq> it will, but when it's done, you'll want to make sure you still have the path for the ltsp-5 directory
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| 18:43 | <KeepW> how to open por 177? its closed and gdm not start in clients
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| 18:52 | <sahil> keepW:use the gdmc configuration tool
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| 18:53 | *gdm
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| 18:59 | <pablo_> ive added X_MODE_0=1024x768 in lts.conf but my clients still show a 800x600 screnn config (using ltsp5) what else can i try?
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| 19:00 | also: i have LOCALDEV=True in lts.conf but when trying to acces floppy from clients says it can mount the drive
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| 19:03 | <sahil> is there any way to have a splash screen for boot?
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| 19:04 | <sahil> jammcq! the best person in the world
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| 19:04 | <jammcq> heh
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| 19:04 | what's up my friend?
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| 19:04 | <sahil> not much just trying to figure out how to make my sis graphics work
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| 19:04 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 19:04 | <sahil> and actually is there a way to have a bootsplash screen?
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| 19:05 | <jammcq> which version of LTSP ?
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| 19:05 | <sahil> 4.2
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| 19:05 | <jammcq> well, bootsplash is very easy with ltsp-5.0, but very difficult with ltsp-4.2
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| 19:07 | <sahil> i can't do 5 cause of gentoo
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| 19:07 | <jammcq> bummer
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| 19:07 | <sahil> the sis issue is my priority right now though
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| 19:08 | <jammcq> i've got to go eat dinner. I'll be back in a little bit
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| 19:08 | <sahil> kk
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