IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 16 August 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:26 | users
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| 07:30 | <gnunux> hi
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| 11:46 | <andygraybeal> morning morning morning!
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| 11:50 | <Hyperbyte> Morning. :)
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| 11:50 | <andygraybeal> Hyperbyte, heysa :)
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| 11:51 | what'r you up to this morning?
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| 11:54 | <alkisg> Hey all! Hyperbyte: are you really really sure you don't want to make that irclogs headers scrollable? :D It really sucks now...
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| 11:54 | <andygraybeal> morning alkisg :)
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| 11:55 | <alkisg> Gooood morning
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| 12:21 | <bobapple> how can i use microphone with local apps?
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| 12:29 | <alkisg> bobapple: It doesn't work? distro/version?
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| 12:29 | <bobapple> fedora 14
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| 12:29 | with the newest build of ltsp-server
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| 12:30 | video is working very well, and i can hear sound
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| 12:30 | i can even use the mic of the webcam (usb)
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| 12:30 | but not the normal line-in mic
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| 12:30 | (from headset)
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| 12:37 | <Hyperbyte> bobapple, do you have both the webcam and the microphone mic plugged in?
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| 12:37 | <bobapple> i tried with both, and i tried to plug in just the mic
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| 12:38 | <alkisg> bobapple: Ah, no idea about Fedora. Normally pulseaudio allows local apps to access the devices with alsa, without need for any special workarounds.
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| 12:38 | <bobapple> alkisg: i know, it worked fine on my other setup, it's weird that it isn't working now
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| 12:39 | Hyperbyte: both devices are recognized, i can select which i want to use, but even if i plug in just the headset it does not work
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| 12:39 | <alkisg> Maybe some pulseaudio misconfiguration, e.g. in older ubuntu versions it had similar problems and workarounds were needed
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| 12:40 | Supposedly with SOUND=False you disable pulseaudio - try to see if at least it works that way
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| 12:40 | (you'll lose normal audio - just to make sure it's a misconfiguration)
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| 12:40 | (SOUND=False in lts.conf)
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| 12:41 | <bobapple> config should be ok, sound is true, i can hear testing sound in skype and in firefox
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| 12:42 | i can use webcam in skype, and i can use mic of webcam
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| 12:42 | just the audio-in is not working
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| 12:42 | <alkisg> Skype and firefox are localapps?
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| 12:43 | <bobapple> skype is local, firefox is remote
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| 12:45 | <alkisg> If you install/run alsamixer locally, is your mic volume turned on?
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| 12:45 | Or, what's the output of "amixer" if you run it again locally?
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| 12:46 | <bobapple> how can i see if it is turned on? sorry, i'm not used to audio things
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| 12:46 | <alkisg> Does `ltsp-localapps xterm` give you a local terminal?
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| 12:47 | <bobapple> yep
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| 12:47 | <alkisg> If you run `amixer` on that xterm, what's the output? Put it to pastebin
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| 12:48 | <bobapple> http://pastebin.com/vudi0PMG
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| 12:50 | <alkisg> Is that all? No mic control?
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| 12:50 | What if you run alsamixer, do you see the mic there?
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| 12:51 | <bobapple> yes i see the mic
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| 12:51 | <bobapple> but it does not move if i talk, i think it should
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| 12:51 | <alkisg> Use the right arrow to navigate to the mic, and the up arrow to increase its volume
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| 12:54 | But amixer should be showing a mic control, so I think you have some misconfiguration there. Anyway, bbl.
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| 14:11 | <bobapple> fyi: headset was defekt -.-
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| 14:12 | <andygraybeal> *claps* :)
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| 14:12 | stinky headset
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| 14:13 | <bobapple> ltsp with fedora 14 is working very good already :)
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| 17:30 | <jhutchins_lt> I thought the latest ltsp from Debian Lenny did not run in the chroot, but the wiki still says to build the client.
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| 17:32 | Which environment is it actually running in, straight server or chroot?
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| 18:16 | <alkisg> jhutchins_lt: LTSP always uses a chroot for clients, and then users that sit on thin clients connect to the server and login there and their sessions are executed on the server. What part got you confused?
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| 18:16 | Localapps and fat clients are a bit different, but for plain thin clients the apps are always ran on the servert
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| 18:16 | <jhutchins_lt> alkisg: Well, I'm learning some from /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/default/ltsp-client-setup about which directories are used from the server.
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| 18:17 | alkisg: I don't know which packages I need to keep updated in the chroot, and which I only need to maintain on the server root.
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| 18:17 | My installation had gotten somewhat out of date, with functions like "switch user" no longer working.
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| 18:17 | <alkisg> jhutchins_lt: the chroot is a minimal system, usually you only need to apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade it
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| 18:17 | For all user apps, like office, browsers etc, you maintain the server
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| 18:17 | <jhutchins_lt> alkisg: Yeah, I guess I just need to make that part of my maintenance routine.
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| 18:18 | I should write a script to mount /proc & co. for chroot.
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| 18:18 | <alkisg> There is one, it's called ltsp-chroot
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| 18:18 | Not sure if it's there on Lenny, it's surely there on Squeeze
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| 18:20 | <jhutchins_lt> Strange. It shows up in locate and as part of ltsp-server, but ls says it's not there (did a purge and re-install today).
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| 18:21 | <alkisg> !learn ltsp-chroot as you can download ltsp-chroot from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/view/head:/server/scripts/debian/ltsp-chroot
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| 18:21 | <ltsp> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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| 18:23 | <jhutchins_lt> root@minerva:~# apt-file search ltsp-chroot \ ltsp-server: /usr/sbin/ltsp-chroot \ ltsp-server: /usr/share/ltsp/scripts/ltsp-chroot \ ltsp-server: /usr/share/man/man8/ltsp-chroot.8.gz
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| 18:24 | root@minerva:~# ls -l /usr/sbin/ltsp-chroot
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| 18:24 | ls: cannot access /usr/sbin/ltsp-chroot: No such file or directory
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| 18:24 | <Hyperbyte> This: /usr/share/ltsp/scripts/ltsp-chroot <-
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| 18:24 | <alkisg> $ dpkg -L ltsp-server | grep ltsp-chroot
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| 18:24 | What does this give you?
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| 18:25 | <jhutchins_lt> I think I need the backport.
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| 18:25 | <alkisg> This says you shouldn't have it: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/all/ltsp-server/filelist
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| 18:25 | Right, with the backports it will be there
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| 18:26 | http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/all/ltsp-server/filelist
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| 18:28 | <TheMatrix3000> anyone here know any good ldap support irc channels?
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| 18:28 | <alkisg> #ldap? but I think I never got an answer there :D
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| 18:29 | <TheMatrix3000> lol
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| 18:29 | ill try i guess
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| 19:36 | <_UsUrPeR_> is $LDM_USERNAME used on local apps?
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| 19:36 | err I mean is it instantiated?
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| 19:36 | on the client?
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