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Channel log from 15 October 2009 (all times are UTC)
| 00:00 | <garyj> Is an lts.conf file necessary? I ask this question because my LTSP clients fail to boot and I don't remember seeing this file in my /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 director.
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| 00:01 | <johnny> no
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| 00:01 | if it's not booting.. it is cuz of something else..
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| 00:01 | perhaps the lack of a specific lts.conf.. but i don't need one at my install
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| 00:02 | specific lts.conf variable that is..
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| 00:02 | but in general you don't need one
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| 00:02 | <garyj> Thanks. So after 2 days of trying to get my Ubuntu 9.04 system running I still don't have an answer.
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| 00:06 | <johnny> why won't it boot?
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| 00:08 | <garyj> That is the $64,000 question.
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| 00:08 | <johnny> errors?
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| 00:08 | just saying it won't boot.. doesn't really help..
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| 00:09 | <garyj> The Ubuntu boot screen appears and the bar moves across the screen as usual, but then an error appears (can't remember exactly what it is) and then it drops to a shell login prompt.
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| 00:10 | I'm not at the system right now so I'll have to get more details tomorrow when I'm at work.
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| 00:10 | The error was something about a "card".
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| 00:11 | Then, of course, other errors followed.
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| 00:11 | <johnny> perhaps it means you don't have the network card drivers?
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| 00:11 | in the initramfs
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| 00:11 | that does happen occasionally, you can rebuild it ti include it
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| 00:12 | you can remove quiet and splash from /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default to see the entire boot process
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| 00:12 | <garyj> I've used this same equipment with 8.04
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| 00:13 | <johnny> it's possible drivers could be removed.. altho probably not the case in your situation
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| 00:13 | write down all the errors and come back
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| 00:13 | <garyj> That will be about 10 hours from now. I'll just have to sleep on it tonight.
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| 00:14 | Thanks
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| 00:27 | <samuel> hi, i'm trying to access my usb thumb drive thats conneted to a thin-client from Gnome or KDE what do i need to setup to accomplish this?
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| 00:33 | <alkisg_work> samuel: distro/version?
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| 00:35 | <samuel> jaunty
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| 00:35 | alkisg_work, but am using hardy at the moment.. but planning to deploy my setup on jaunty
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| 00:36 | <alkisg_work> They should work out of the box with gnome
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| 00:36 | (both on hardy and jaunty)
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| 00:38 | <samuel> alkisg_work, thanks, whats the technology behind it? nbd?
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| 00:38 | <alkisg_work> ltspfs / ltspfsd
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| 00:38 | !source
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| 00:38 | <ltspbot> alkisg_work: My source is at http://supybot.com/
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| 00:38 | <alkisg_work> Bah :(
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| 00:38 | <samuel> or is it an smb server like nomachine implementation
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| 00:39 | <alkisg_work> !learn source as The LTSP code is at https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream
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| 00:39 | <ltspbot> alkisg_work: The operation succeeded.
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| 00:39 | <alkisg_work> !source
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| 00:39 | <ltspbot> alkisg_work: My source is at http://supybot.com/
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| 00:39 | <alkisg_work> !forget source 1
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| 00:39 | <ltspbot> alkisg_work: The operation succeeded.
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| 00:39 | <alkisg_work> !source
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| 00:39 | <ltspbot> alkisg_work: My source is at http://supybot.com/
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| 00:39 | <alkisg_work> !forget source 1
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| 00:39 | <ltspbot> alkisg_work: Error: There is no such factoid.
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| 00:40 | <alkisg_work> !forget source 2
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| 00:40 | <ltspbot> alkisg_work: Error: There is no such factoid.
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| 00:40 | <alkisg_work> !source
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| 00:40 | <ltspbot> alkisg_work: My source is at http://supybot.com/
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| 00:40 | <alkisg_work> Hmmm it's hardcoded
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| 00:40 | samuel: ltspfs / ltspfsd is a fuse file system specifically written for ltsp
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| 00:40 | https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltspfs/ltspfs-trunk
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| 00:41 | <samuel> alkisg_work, nice.. its been a while since i've used ltsp.. since the fiesty fawn days
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| 00:42 | <alkisg_work> Did that use ltsp 4.2?
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| 00:42 | <samuel> sound exciting..
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| 00:42 | <alkisg_work> 5.0 is (afaik) a complete rewrite of ltsp...
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| 00:43 | <samuel> i'm planing on replacing the proprietary software that comes installed on our thinclient terminals (Futro - Fujitsu-Siemens Via Eden Terminal)
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| 00:44 | <samuel> at the moment they run something similar to an 2x implementation. i prefer ltsp though - more free, more open
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| 00:45 | <alkisg_work> Does the 2x implementation include support for sound, usb sticks, cd-roms etc?
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| 00:49 | <samuel> yep
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| 00:49 | it has a web interface where you can manage the terminal profiles, e.g. to configure specific drivers to a terminal
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| 00:50 | or specific display config, and printers etc.. its quite nice.. i would like to get involved in the ltsp project, i'm a developer
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| 00:51 | mainly Qt/KDE but also have experience with many windows platform too
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| 00:52 | <alkisg_work> It'd be nice to have a developer that uses KDE in the ltsp team :
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| 00:52 | :
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| 00:52 | :) (damn keyboard)
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| 00:52 | samuel: but you should come back here in 10 hours or so, when the devs are around...
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| 00:52 | (= U.S. mornings)
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| 00:54 | * vagrantc waves | |
| 00:54 | <alkisg_work> Ah, here's an "evening person" ^^^ :D
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| 00:57 | <johnny> well.. you should upgrade before tryin to get your bug fixed..
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| 00:57 | vagrantc, !!!!
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| 00:57 | i wanna come visit :(
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| 00:59 | <vagrantc> johnny: what's holding you back?
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| 01:00 | <johnny> guess..
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| 01:00 | <vagrantc> fear of a pacific tidal wave?
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| 01:01 | i wish i could've made it to the LTSP BTS
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| 01:01 | <samuel> ok.. in the mean time i'll install and try out some ltsp terminals on jaunty
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| 01:02 | <samuel> thanx alkisg_work
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| 01:02 | <alkisg_work> You're welcome :)
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| 01:03 | <johnny> i only need 3800 guest rewards points..
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| 01:03 | for a free trip there..
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| 01:03 | the coming back will be more difficult .. :)
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| 01:03 | <alkisg_work> You could help setup LTSP in the ship computers :P :D
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| 01:04 | <johnny> ship?
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| 01:05 | <alkisg_work> Well, I don't think planes would have enough computers to justify ltsp... :D
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| 01:05 | <johnny> it'd be train..
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| 01:05 | <alkisg_work> (ok ok /me stops joking)
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| 01:06 | <johnny> alkisg_work, something like this .. altho it is a car route..
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| 01:07 | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=baltimore,+md&daddr=45.73686,-108.632812+to:portland,+or&hl=en&geocode=&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=5&via=1&sll=40.010787,-100.986328&sspn=21.636423,53.217773&ie=UTF8&z=5
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| 01:07 | <alkisg_work> Woah, how long does that take on train?
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| 01:07 | <johnny> about 3 days
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| 01:08 | <alkisg_work> Seems like a really good trip to take by car, though..
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| 01:08 | <johnny> if you own one :)
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| 01:08 | travelling by train is cheaper than driving if you go by yourself
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| 01:08 | driving is cheaper with a 2nd or 3rd person
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| 01:09 | * alkisg_work also wishes he could make such a trip... :( | |
| 01:09 | <johnny> renting a car, gas, tolls, etc..
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| 01:09 | <alkisg_work> My wife got to the US last year for 1.5 month, and described it to me with the best words...
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| 01:09 | <johnny> you wait something like 6 hours in chicago for the 2nd train
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| 01:12 | <alkisg_work> ...anyone cares for a summer house exchange? :D
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| 01:28 | <johnny> what's the best words?
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| 01:31 | <vagrantc> alkisg_work: if i had a house! :)
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| 01:31 | <alkisg_work> Heh!!!
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| 01:31 | * alkisg_work hopes he'll get selected sometime to teach in greek students in the US for 5 years... | |
| 01:33 | <johnny> vagrantc, it's just money why i can't come out there yet
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| 01:33 | somebody is trying to bring me out there by christmas
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| 01:36 | <alkisg_work> (non-LTSP related): Is there any hard limit to sshd that blocks connections, if more than 10 of the occur simultaneously? Using clusterssh, I get scp something from the server on 10 of the clients, but the other 2 get "connection closed by remote host". If I try them again with just those 2, it works fine...
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| 01:36 | *them
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| 01:36 | ...and *can (instead of get)
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| 01:38 | <johnny> not a hard hard limit
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| 01:38 | you'd have to look at the config file..
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| 01:38 | i've never tried
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| 01:38 | or looked for such a var
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| 01:39 | * alkisg_work can't find any such option... | |
| 01:39 | <johnny> try on a different machine maybe?
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| 01:39 | <alkisg_work> Wouldn't that affect LDM_AUTOLOGIN for more than 10 concurrent clients?
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| 01:39 | <johnny> sounds like it
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| 01:39 | * alkisg_work googles... | |
| 01:39 | <johnny> you should perhaps try stracing it
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| 01:39 | or even just look at the regular log
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| 01:40 | <alkisg_work> Uhm, or maybe /me just looks at the man page and finds "MaxStartups" ==> with a default value of 10... ;)
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| 01:40 | <johnny> lol
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| 01:40 | there ya go.. :)
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| 01:40 | <alkisg_work> OK we should write that somewhere in a wiki, it may affect ltsp users logging on simultaneously
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| 01:40 | <johnny> just like magic
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| 01:41 | haven't hard of probelms so far
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| 01:41 | you'd think we would have b now
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| 01:42 | <alkisg_work> Hmmmm yeah it only happens when more than 10 users have given the username, but not the password yet
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| 01:42 | So that doesn't happen with LDM_AUTOLOGIN... (both are given at almost the same time)
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| 01:42 | <johnny> ah..
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| 01:42 | <alkisg_work> So if it (rarely) happens in a classroom, the student will just think he mistyped his password
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| 01:42 | <johnny> but looks like it might affect some people.. but only in a such a small way that they never report bugs on it
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| 01:42 | as they try again and it just works..
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| 01:42 | ah .. yes :)
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| 01:42 | <alkisg_work> Right
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| 01:43 | <johnny> alkisg_work, good catch
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| 01:51 | <pacifica> sbalneav: the "ugly trick" doesn't work for Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (website confirms it works for 9.04)
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| 01:51 | so I guess I might need to write a script to start updating all those primary groups....
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| 01:51 | signing off... later!
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| 05:03 | <din_os> how can I add firefox extentions for all users for new extentions that don't exist in synaptic?
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| 05:11 | <alkisg_work> din_os: I don't know of any standard way to do that, but which ones? If it's a common one, maybe we can request it to be packaged by a motu (or debian developer etc)...
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| 05:13 | <din_os> hmm, downthemall should be there, also video-downloadhelper
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| 06:39 | <ftherese1> I am having trouble with ltsp sound
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| 06:39 | I can never figure out how to make sure the sound come out on the client and not the server
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| 06:39 | sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't
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| 06:59 | <leOn> hello
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| 07:00 | i've read in the ltsp-developer list about a patch to support nomad ... is this been included in ltsp 5 already ?
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| 07:06 | <cyberorg> leOn, it is included on opensuse 11.1, but support will be dropped in 11.2
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| 07:07 | <leOn> hmm .. why? .. is it broken?
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| 07:07 | <cyberorg> leOn, http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/Nomad
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| 07:08 | leOn, it depended on heavily forked xrdp, dmx2 etc, that cant keep pace with upstream xorg development, so till the patches are merged it looks unlikely it will be there in 11.2
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| 07:08 | <leOn> well .. the thing is that fro what i read, nomad would allow me to have a select box or similar in the ldm splash screen, allowing me to choose between linux (through remote X) or windows (through rdesktop)
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| 07:09 | <leOn> if there is another way to achieve that, that's fine by me
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| 07:09 | <cyberorg> leOn, nomad is not for that, you can do that, but not from LDM, but via lts.conf
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| 07:10 | <leOn> but that won't force users to have to select login consoles with alt+F* key combination?
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| 07:11 | i.e. .. different login consoles for different sessions, instead of a single login console with a chooser
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| 07:13 | <cyberorg> leOn, different sessions on different tty, not from LDM, it would be nice though, up for creating a patch for LDM? :)
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| 07:14 | <leOn> ok ... could you point me the docs on how to set things in different tty?
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| 07:14 | i'll think about that chooser patch along the way =)
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| 07:14 | <cyberorg> leOn, in /topic
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| 07:14 | !docs
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| 07:14 | <ltspbot> cyberorg: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
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| 07:15 | <cyberorg> leOn, SCREEN_07=ldm, SCREEN_08=rdesktop something like that
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| 07:16 | <leOn> my main problem about the patch is that i've never coded stuff for UIs
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| 07:16 | =)
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| 08:32 | <leOn> hmmm .. in the ldm source, in gtkgreet i see a reference to combo box support ...
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| 08:33 | including some text with "Select the host for your session to use"
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| 08:51 | <cyberorg> leOn, that is to select different LDM_SERVER
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| 08:54 | <sbalneav> le0n: why not simply start ldm on one tty, and an rdesktop session on another? Then users would just have to ctl-alt-f7 or ctl-alt-f8 to switch between the two, and in fact, could be logged into both at once, if they desire.
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| 09:07 | <leOn> sbalneav: you'd be surprised how hard it would be for most of my users to perform a crtl+alt+f* key press ...
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| 09:09 | a radio button box or pull down menu to select which session to start would be ideal ...
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| 09:10 | <sbalneav> Well, happy programming :)
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| 09:10 | Send us patches :)
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| 09:11 | <leOn> looking at the gtk tutorial .. trying to decide if it's worth the effort =)
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| 09:19 | <leOn> hmm .. wtf is K12LINUX ?
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| 09:19 | <cliebow> it is eharrisons rendition of 4.2 in redhat
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| 09:19 | <sbalneav> K12Linux is a fedora based distro.
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| 09:20 | No, they're using LTSP5 now, afaik
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| 09:20 | morning cliebow
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| 09:20 | <cliebow> i see..Hey Captain!! lookin goforward to9 seeing you!!
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| 09:20 | <sbalneav> Yes! I'm looking forward to seeing your new house!
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| 10:16 | <cliebow> wherefore art thou Gadi??
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| 10:55 | <jhutchins_lt> (II) SIS(0): Not using mode "1440x900" (no mode of this name) Why?
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| 10:56 | How do I get it to re-generate it's xorg.conf file?
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| 10:59 | <johnny> it does it on every boot..
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| 11:00 | you might want to try tweaking CONFIGURE_X=Y or N
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| 11:00 | not surewhat is the default on the version of the distro you're using..
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| 11:00 | <alkisg> jhutchins_lt: distro/version?
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| 11:00 | <jhutchins_lt> Current debian. Not sure how to check the ltsp version.
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| 11:00 | <johnny> alkisg, perhaps we need a wikipage that describes the changes
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| 11:01 | like when we changed CONFIGURE_X
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| 11:01 | !ver
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| 11:01 | <ltspbot> johnny: "ver" is to get version info on debian/ubuntu (please use the pastebot): dpkg -l 'ltsp*' 'ldm*' | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}' ; dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l 'ltsp*' ldm | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}'
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| 11:01 | <johnny> but we didn't change CONFIGURE_X equally on all versions
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| 11:01 | <alkisg> johnny: right, an lts.conf wiki page annotated per distro / version...
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| 11:01 | <johnny> i couldn't use CONFIGURE_X at all from the beginning
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| 11:01 | as it was broken for me on gentoo
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| 11:02 | <jhutchins_lt> Looks like 5.1
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| 11:02 | <johnny> and it was something like 6-12 months later that it changed for debian/ubuntu
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| 11:02 | <alkisg> jhutchins_lt: does your xorg log report the detected horizontal and vertical timings for the monitor?
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| 11:02 | <johnny> whoa.. it got cold...
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| 11:03 | <alkisg> CONFIGURE_X was around hardy time... but I think it wasn't in any of the stable debian versions...
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| 11:05 | <jhutchins_lt> So what does "CONFIGURE_X=False" do then?
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| 11:05 | <johnny> F maens it lets xorg.conf figure it oiut
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| 11:05 | <jhutchins_lt> I have CONFIGURE_X_COMMAND=/etc/configure-x-xdebconfigurator
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| 11:05 | <johnny> out*
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| 11:05 | uhmm.. try witout that
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| 11:06 | CONFIGURE_X was more needed before x could generate a working config on its own
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| 11:06 | but it has been able to do pretty good for the past year or so
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| 11:07 | <ogra> xdebconfigurator ?
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| 11:07 | i thought that was dropped long ago
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| 11:07 | <jhutchins_lt> D'Oh! Rebooted the server instead of the client!
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| 11:21 | <garyj_> Can anyone assist me? I have new installation of Ubuntu 9.04 and the clients don't complete the boot process ...
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| 11:22 | They fail at Starting LTSP client. Invalid card number. Then drop to shell prompt with screen blinking on and off.
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| 11:22 | That seems to be regardless of differing hardware.
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| 11:22 | <sbalneav> Real clients, or virtual clients
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| 11:22 | <garyj_> real
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| 11:23 | The same hardware worked with 8.04
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| 11:23 | <sbalneav> ok, what kind of clients? What kind of video card, network card, processor, memory, etc. do they have?
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| 11:24 | <garyj_> Different clients have different hardware environment.
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| 11:24 | <johnny> invalid card number?
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| 11:24 | garyj_, did you remove quiet and splash?
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| 11:24 | <garyj_> That's what the error message says.
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| 11:24 | yes
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| 11:24 | <johnny> looks like you're gnna have to write out more of the messages that happened before that
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| 11:24 | and then put them here
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| 11:24 | !pastebot
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| 11:24 | <ltspbot> johnny: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 11:25 | <garyj_> Will do that. Thanks.
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| 11:38 | <ltsppbot> "garyj" pasted "Ubuntu 9.04 clients don't complete boot process" (15 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/584
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| 11:39 | <johnny> a simple web search told me that the invalid card number thing is your sound
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| 11:40 | did you recreate the chroot after upgrading garyj_ ?
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| 11:40 | <garyj_> yes
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| 11:40 | This wasn't a simple upgrade. The hard drive crashed and it was a fresh install
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| 11:41 | on a new drive
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| 11:41 | <alkisg> garyj_: first, stop using etherboot, and use it's successor, pxe
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| 11:41 | second, I think it's a video problem - so try XSERVER=vesa in lts.conf
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| 11:41 | *gpxe
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| 11:41 | !gpxe
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| 11:41 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "gpxe" is the successor to etherboot. You can find it at: http://etherboot.org/wiki/index.php
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| 11:41 | <alkisg> !rom-o-matic
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| 11:42 | <ltspbot> alkisg: Error: "rom-o-matic" is not a valid command.
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| 11:42 | <garyj_> Frankly, I'm not sure what's on these boot floppies as they were made before I arrived on the scene.
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| 11:42 | <alkisg> Just get there : http://rom-o-matic.net/ and download new floppie
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| 11:43 | Anyway, try the XSERVER=vesa thing first...
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| 11:43 | <garyj_> They worked fine with 8.04. Why wouldn't they work OK with 9.04
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| 11:43 | <alkisg> Because of different video drivers?
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| 11:43 | <garyj_> I'll try that.
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| 11:43 | <alkisg> sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf => and put:
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| 11:43 | [Default]
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| 11:43 | XSERVER=vesa
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| 11:44 | <garyj_> OD
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| 11:44 | OK
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| 11:47 | <garyj_> Created lts.conf and inserted the above mentioned lines. No change.
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| 11:47 | Still fails in exactly the same manner.
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| 11:49 | <alkisg> garyj_: is the screen still blinking?
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| 11:50 | <garyj_> Yikes! One of the clients just completed the boot process even though it gave me those same error messages. But I'll reboot it just to make sure.
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| 11:50 | <johnny> invalid card has to do with your sound
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| 11:50 | and the invalid pipe .. i still get that and it isn't fatal
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| 11:50 | so it sounds like the problem is that it is trying to start x.. but can't find a driver
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| 11:50 | or the driver is bad..
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| 11:51 | <alkisg> garyj_: yes, you have more than one problems, but the screen blinking usually means a bad xorg driver / autodetection etc
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| 11:52 | <jhutchins_lt> Well, that's interesting, now we get "Frequency out of range" from the monitor...
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| 11:52 | <garyj_> The clients are all booting OK now even though those same error messages appear. They boot rather slowly but they're booting!
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| 11:53 | <alkisg> garyj_: now, logon, run: ltsp-localapps xterm, and run lspci there to see the hardware
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| 11:53 | <garyj_> OK
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| 11:53 | <alkisg> Both graphics card & sound card probably have problems..
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| 11:54 | jhutchins_lt: try to define specific X_HORZSYNC and X_VERTREFRESH for your monitor
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| 11:54 | (in lts.conf)
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| 11:54 | <jhutchins_lt> Yeah, well, at least we got that far.
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| 11:54 | grrr. no "less"?
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| 11:55 | no ntpdate...
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| 11:55 | <ogra> what distro is that ?
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| 11:56 | ubuntu surely has both
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| 11:56 | <jhutchins_lt> Debian.
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| 11:56 | This is from the terminal.
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| 11:56 | I think I need to chroot on the server and update/install packages.
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| 11:56 | <ogra> yeah, debians minimal install is *really* minimal :)
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| 11:56 | <johnny> i don't think it is that minimal?
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| 11:57 | coreutils must incluce less
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| 11:57 | <ogra> far smaller than the ubuntu.minimal metapackage
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| 11:57 | <johnny> now.. if you're in the initramfs shell
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| 11:57 | you might not have less
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| 11:57 | <ogra> indeed
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| 11:57 | <johnny> only more..
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| 11:57 | <ogra> initramfs is only busybox with ten possible commands or so
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| 11:57 | <johnny> ogra, seriously.. i really doubt less isn't in debian
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| 11:57 | jhutchins_lt, i think you're doing it from the wrong shell?
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| 11:57 | <ogra> johnny, in the *minimal* chroot
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| 11:58 | <johnny> i doubt they patched coreutils to remove less
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| 11:58 | just for ltsp
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| 11:58 | <jhutchins_lt> johnny: Quite possibly, I'm connected to the terminal's IP via SSH.
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| 11:58 | <johnny> i guess i'd have to actually have a debian box to tell tho..
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| 11:59 | <ogra> less is in its own package
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| 11:59 | not in coreutils
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| 11:59 | <johnny> oh.. really?
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| 11:59 | <jhutchins_lt> 1120 commands available.
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| 11:59 | <johnny> weird.. ok
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| 11:59 | weirdo..
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| 11:59 | that is minimal :(
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| 11:59 | i should try vanilla debian some day ago
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| 11:59 | again*
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| 11:59 | been uhm..7 years or so..
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| 11:59 | <jhutchins_lt> Yes, less is not installed.
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| 11:59 | Nor is ntp.
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| 12:00 | Ok, I'll update the chroot and see what we get then.
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| 12:04 | With 5.1, what do I need to do for a new kernel?
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| 12:05 | <johnny> install it however you would normally install it? except in a the chroot?
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| 12:08 | <jhutchins_lt> Seeing as there's a whole new xorg, this may address the original problem.
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| 12:09 | johnny: Ok, there used to be mojo that had to be done server-side, something like generating a new boot image or something.
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| 12:12 | <alkisg> ltsp-update-kernels
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| 12:12 | jhutchins_lt: ^^
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| 12:14 | <talntid> hi all.
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| 12:15 | i have a ltsp environment, and everything is working great... except at the moment, there are a few machines i can't ssh to or vncviewer to...
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| 12:15 | any ideas how else i could get to them?
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| 12:15 | most work fine, a few dont
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| 12:15 | <jhutchins_lt> alkisg: Do that from chroot or from server root?
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| 12:15 | <alkisg> jhutchins_lt: after you update the kernels in the chroot, you run ltsp-update-kernels from outside the chroot, to transfer the new kernels to the /var/lib/tftpboot dir
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| 12:15 | <jhutchins_lt> talntid: You're sure they're up and on the network?
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| 12:15 | <talntid> yep
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| 12:16 | they are logged on and doing work
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| 12:16 | <alkisg> talntid: did you install sshd in the chroot?
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| 12:16 | <talntid> yes
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| 12:16 | most of them work fine
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| 12:16 | some do not
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| 12:16 | <jhutchins_lt> alkisg: k, and that's still valid for 5.1, right/
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| 12:16 | ?
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| 12:16 | <alkisg> Debian Lenny?
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| 12:16 | What's 5.1?
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| 12:17 | <jhutchins_lt> LTSP version. Yes Lenny.
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| 12:17 | what's ltsp-update-image for?
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| 12:17 | <alkisg> Yes, I believe so.
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| 12:17 | <ogra> used by distros that use nbd instead of nfs
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| 12:17 | <alkisg> ltsp-update-image is when you use nbd images
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| 12:17 | <jhutchins_lt> alkisg: How would I know whether or not I do?
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| 12:18 | <alkisg> Right, debian is able to use nbd, but uses nfs by default
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| 12:18 | <jhutchins_lt> k, we'll assume not then.
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| 12:18 | <alkisg> jhutchins_lt: well with debian you'd knew it if you did :)
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| 12:18 | <jhutchins_lt> nfs didn't start when the server rebooted, and the terminal complained, so I'm clearly nfs.
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| 12:18 | Ok, reboot client again.
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| 12:19 | <talntid> from the server, can i issue a command as if it was being issued on the thin client?
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| 12:20 | <alkisg> To make it show up on the client screen? Not easily...
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| 12:20 | <talntid> no
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| 12:20 | i want to start x11vncserver
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| 12:21 | <alkisg> Yeah, we're saying the same thing. You'd need to run it inside the user's X session, that's not easy.
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| 12:21 | <talntid> hrm
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| 12:21 | <jhutchins_lt> One of the vnc servers has a loadable x module; you simply configure it in xorg.conf.
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| 12:21 | for display 0.
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| 12:24 | Let's see what the client's doing now...
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| 12:26 | Blinking cursor in upper left corner, not responsibe to keyboard.
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| 12:27 | Don't you just love these linux oddesys that begin "I'll just make this one little tweak..."?
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| 12:28 | <jhutchins_lt> Uh oh, no shell.
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| 12:30 | <jhutchins_lt> Well, with xdebconfiguratior, I at least get a shell, although video is clearly out of sync.
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| 12:31 | failed to load module sis.
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| 12:34 | <jhutchins_lt> Woo! I can see the DM from here!
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| 12:34 | (Why isn't it doing auto-login?)
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| 12:35 | I have LDM_USERNAME/LDM_PASSWORD
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| 12:36 | <johnny> do you have LDM_AUTOLOGIN ?
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| 12:36 | otherwise you can just login as guest account
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| 12:36 | using those parameters that is..
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| 12:36 | <jhutchins_lt> johnny: Nope, maybe that's it.
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| 12:36 | I did get the resolution I was after though.
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| 12:42 | <jhutchins_lt> johnny: LDM_AUTOLOGIN=Y?
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| 12:43 | <jhutchins_lt> Sadly, the new resolution has all kinds of video artifacts.
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| 12:43 | <johnny> jhutchins_lt, i think so.. see lts-parameters.txt.gz for details
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| 12:44 | <jhutchins_lt> Yeah, that fixed it.
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| 22:59 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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| 22:59 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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