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Channel log from 24 March 2018 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:52 | <alkisg> bcg: pushed; if my grep is somehow wrong and it doesn't work for you, please ping me with a patch, as I don't have a Fedora LTSP setup. Thanks! :)
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| 07:54 | Just for the logs, I verified that udhcpc on Debian/Ubuntu is supposed to do proper lease renewal, while the initramfs-tools udhcpc script sets valid_lft=forever, i.e. it's not affected at all by this 50-valid-lft script
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| 07:55 | <bcg> rhel(ish), not fedora... it might be easiest if I create qemu qcow image for you to play with...
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| 07:56 | Yes, I bet dhclient/udhcpc will do renewal on rhel too. The problem was that NM doesn't start dhclient at all if it sees "forever"
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| 07:58 | <alkisg> bcg: So I should replace Fedora with Redhat there?
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| 07:58 | <bcg> almost same thing, that patch would apply to fedora too.
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| 07:59 | <alkisg> OK... btw, we have different dirs for Fedora and Redhat, are they so different to need separate dirs?
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| 08:00 | <bcg> Redhat is the one I've been patching. I think current Fedora dirs should be deleted and Redhat should work there too.
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| 08:00 | <alkisg> bcg: sure, a chroot or even better just the ltsp/ldm/ltsp .rpms would help in testing there...
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| 08:02 | <bcg> client-chroot only, not the server qcow?
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| 08:02 | <alkisg> It should work under my ubuntu server, shouldn't it?
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| 08:02 | <bcg> it should. chroot + tftpboot dir then.
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| 08:02 | <alkisg> (so, just delete those? or more changes would be needed? ./server/share/ltsp/plugins/ltsp-build-client/Fedora, ./server/Fedora; ./client/Fedora )
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| 16:42 | <SmashK> hi! whats the fastest way to add a boot option to the pxe-menu for booting the client with an Image of a Windows-Install-CD?
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| 16:44 | <fiesh> we have this winpe set up to do this
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| 16:44 | but since windows 10 and iSCSI are broken, even our test installations didn't work -- fortunately we don't use windows at all... but the garbage works
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| 16:45 | this is in our pxelinux config:
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| 16:45 | LABEL Windows 10 Install MENU LABEL Windows Install
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| 16:45 | KERNEL win_ipxe.lkrn INITRD win10_install.ipxe TEXT HELP
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| 16:45 | Use "net use Z: \\192.168.3.1\software /user:software software"
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| 16:45 | ENDTEXT
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| 16:45 | to install Windows 10.
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| 16:45 | win10_install.ipxe contains:
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| 16:45 | #!ipxe dhcp #set keep-san 1
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| 16:45 | #sanhook iscsi:192.168.3.1::::iqn.2003-01.org.linux-iscsi.wsbox.x8664:sn.07570fbab212 set boot-url http://192.168.3.1 initrd ${boot-url}/distros/windows/winpe_amd64.iso
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| 16:45 | kernel tftp://192.168.3.1/memdisk iso raw
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| 16:45 | the iscsi thing didn't work, which is why it's commented
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| 16:45 | boot
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| 16:45 | <SmashK> no Win10, just Win2000 ! ;)
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| 16:46 | <fiesh> and the winpe image is loaded over http because it's gigantic and takes forever with tftp
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| 16:46 | I have no idea then, but it's the same crap, just older, so it'll work similarly I guess ;)
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| 16:47 | honestly, unless you have a very good reason not to, stick to virtualbox as a container for windows...
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| 16:47 | <SmashK> do I need an .iso of the cd or can I use an .img made with dd?
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| 16:47 | <fiesh> solves the backup issues as well
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| 16:48 | I can only speak for windows 10, and it's much dumber than that. you nede a working windows installation to create this windows pe thing (forget what it stands for, google will help)
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| 16:48 | you can then network boot this windows pe image
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| 16:48 | and install windows from the installation cd, using a samba mount for example like is written up there
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| 16:49 | I don't know what's the case with win2k
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| 16:52 | <alkisg> SmashK: one method I'm using it, I install windows normally in one client, and then I use ltsp to clone it with aoe and dd over the network to 10 clients
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| 16:55 | <SmashK> uhu, how do you install into a normal client? don't get that
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| 16:56 | completly confused by a hundred different tutorials in inet, one more obsolete than the next
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| 16:57 | <alkisg> I install windows normally. Using the installation CD or whatever. Then, I just use ltsp to clone it.
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| 16:58 | <SmashK> where is the correct place to insert new "Label"? /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/pxelinux.cfg/default is not a file but a link
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| 16:58 | <alkisg> Windows 10 is flexible and can be installed in a VM and cloned into any hardware; but Windows 2000 needed the same HAL in order to boot
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| 16:59 | If you copy pxelinux.cfg/ltsp to pxelinux.cfg/default, overwriting the symlink, then ltsp will preserve it and never update it
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| 17:01 | <SmashK> so pxelinux.cfg/ltsp is the correct one? but wich one, I've got 7 differents here, ltsp, ltsp-AOE, ltsp-NBD, ltsp-NFS, ltsp-versions-AOE, ltsp-versions-NBD and ltsp-versions-NFS
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| 17:01 | <alkisg> No, it's not the correct one.
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| 17:01 | rm pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 17:01 | cp pxelinux.cfg/ltsp pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 17:01 | edit pxelinux.cfg/default <== that's the correct way.
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| 17:02 | Because pxelinux.cfg/ltsp will constantly get overwritten when you run ltsp-update-kernels
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| 17:02 | <SmashK> the client boots automaticly "Auto-select: boot from network"
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| 17:20 | <SmashK> ok, back, did what you wrote and opened default, tehre are a lot of "Label"s inside, but client stills boot with the "Auto-select" like I wrote above
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| 17:21 | <alkisg> !menu
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| 17:21 | <ltsp> I do not know about 'menu', but I do know about these similar topics: 'manual'
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| 17:21 | <SmashK> is ltsp-nbd the correct way to boot in the actual LTSP-world? or NFS
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| 17:22 | <alkisg> To have ltsp create a menu for you, you'd edit /etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf in the chroot, uncomment PXELINUX_DEFAULT=menu, run /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels, then exit the chroot, and run ltsp-update-image to pick up the change. It's not very documented.
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| 17:22 | If you know how to create a pxelinux menu, you can just write it, it's not difficult
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| 17:23 | LTSP can't generate your windows entry anyway, so you would need to do some things manually in any case
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| 17:23 | <SmashK> ahhhhh, let me see
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| 17:23 | <alkisg> Which distro/version are you using? E.g. Ubuntu 16.04 defaults to NBD.
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| 17:24 | <SmashK> pls gimme short hint how to show the distro
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| 17:25 | debian9 lxde
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| 17:25 | 64
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| 17:25 | <alkisg> OK, I think Stretch defaults to NBD as well.
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| 17:28 | <SmashK> "then exit the chroot, and run ltsp-update-image" ? gives me "no chrrots found in /opt/ltsp".
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| 17:28 | exit the chroot? using root-terminal
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| 17:29 | <alkisg> SmashK: what's the output of this command? sudo ltsp-info
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| 17:29 | Put it to pastebin
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| 17:29 | E.g. sudo ltsp-info | nc termbin.com 9999
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| 17:30 | <Smashk2> alot: server information: No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Debian Description: Debian GNU/Linux 9.3 (stretch) Release: 9.3 Codename: stretch server packages: ii ldm 2:2.2.18-2 un ldm-edubuntu-theme <keine> un ldm-kubuntu-theme <keine> un ldm-lubuntu-theme <keine> ii ldm-server 2:2.2.18-2 ii ldm-themes 17.01 un ldm-ubuntu-theme <keine> un ldm-xubuntu-theme <keine> ii ltsp-client 5.5.9-2 ii ltsp-client-core 5.5.9-2 ii ltsp-do
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| 17:30 | <alkisg> No, you can't paste directly in irc
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| 17:30 | Try this instead: sudo ltsp-info | nc termbin.com 9999
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| 17:30 | It will paste it to a website and tell us the link
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| 17:32 | <Smashk2> http://termbin.com
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| 17:32 | http://termbin.com/a8rd
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| 17:32 | <alkisg> OK it looks like you're using ltsp-pnp/ltsp-manager, so no chroots
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| 17:33 | <SmashK> I trust you! ;)
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