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Channel log from 15 March 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:02 | <tessier> Hello all!
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| 00:02 | Does LTSP support FreeNX for remote terminals? I heard there was some work being done on that a couple years ago. Wondering if it ever went mainstream.
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| 05:47 | <Selveste1> Hey :) I have just maked a new image on a debian etch with NFS - And when I try to boot I get this error - http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ubuntultspboot.png - More info http://pastebin.com/d48bc321e
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| 07:25 | <Selveste1> I have just maked a new image on a debian etch with NFS-server and LTSP - And when I try to boot I get this error - http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ubuntultspboot.png - More info http://pastebin.com/d48bc321e
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| 08:17 | <Selveste1> Is there anybody on this channel, today :P it's very dead in here :)
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| 08:21 | <marius--> this i nothing special >_<
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| 08:21 | <Selveste1> lol :)
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| 09:53 | <Selveste1> I have just maked a new image on a debian etch with NFS-server and LTSP - And when I try to boot I get this error - http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ubuntultspboot.png - More info http://pastebin.com/d48bc321e
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| 11:38 | <Selveste1> I have just maked a new image on a debian etch with NFS-server and LTSP - And when I try to boot I get this error - http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ubuntultspboot.png - More info http://pastebin.com/d48bc321e
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| 14:11 | <Selveste1> I have just maked a new image on a debian etch with NFS-server and LTSP - And when I try to boot I get this error - http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ubuntultspboot.png - More info http://pastebin.com/d48bc321e
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| 14:15 | <vagrantc> Selveste1: i wasn't able to see the image ... but you should only have /opt/ltsp in exports, not /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 14:15 | <Selveste1> Both are there... just wile I'm testing :)
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| 14:15 | <vagrantc> Selveste1: where does your pxe configuration come from? it's not standard LTSP
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| 14:15 | Selveste1: yes, but having both there can *cause* problems.
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| 14:16 | Selveste1: could you paste the output of the following command:
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| 14:16 | !ver
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| 14:16 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "ver" is to get version info on debian/ubuntu (please use the pastebot): COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'ltsp*' | awk '/^ii/{print $2}/^ii/{print $3}' ; COLUMNS=200 dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l 'ltsp*' ldm | awk '/^ii/{print $2}/^ii/{print $3}'
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| 14:16 | <vagrantc> !pastebot
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| 14:16 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 14:16 | <Selveste1> The PXE is an allready working PXE, with a lot of other Images (net install of Ubuntu and debian and stuff)
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| 14:17 | <vagrantc> Selveste1: well, your working PXE config has options in it that will likely break LTSP.
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| 14:17 | Selveste1: etch doesn't support NBD, for example, and you've added options for NBD
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| 14:17 | <Selveste1> Btw. I will ul the image in a sec :)
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| 14:18 | <vagrantc> Selveste1: debian lenny was also released last month- LTSP is much better supported in lenny.
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| 14:19 | <Selveste1> http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ubuntultspboot.png - I know that lenny is out, but I will wait for a wile to upgrade to lenny just to be safe
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| 14:20 | <vagrantc> Selveste1: i can't see that .png
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| 14:20 | * vagrantc wonders why it is named "ubuntultspboot" when it is debian... | |
| 14:21 | <alkisg> http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/742/ubuntultspboot.png
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| 14:22 | <Selveste1> vagrantc - haha, the name is because I test boot in VMware, and the setup I use is caled ubuntu
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| 14:23 | <vagrantc> Selveste1: can you paste the output of:
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| 14:23 | <Selveste1> The PXE file LTSP makes is like this DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp
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| 14:23 | <vagrantc> !ver
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| 14:23 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "ver" is to get version info on debian/ubuntu (please use the pastebot): COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'ltsp*' | awk '/^ii/{print $2}/^ii/{print $3}' ; COLUMNS=200 dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l 'ltsp*' ldm | awk '/^ii/{print $2}/^ii/{print $3}'
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| 14:23 | <vagrantc> Selveste1: to the pastebot?
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| 14:23 | !pastebot
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| 14:23 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 14:24 | * Ryan52 thinks that that's a really weird way to awk it.. | |
| 14:24 | <Ryan52> why would you want the version and package name on separate lines?
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| 14:24 | <vagrantc> Ryan52: it's because the bot wouldn't learn the command i really wanted
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| 14:25 | <ltsppbot> "Selveste1" pasted "Debian LTSP" (8 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/283
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| 14:25 | * Ryan52 still thinks that this would be better: awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}' | |
| 14:25 | <vagrantc> Selveste1: that isn't the output from the command mentioned above.
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| 14:27 | Selveste1: could you just cut and paste the command and paste the output?
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| 14:28 | Ryan52: that does look better, thanks!
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| 14:29 | <Selveste1_> Sorry - ran out of power :S
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| 14:29 | <vagrantc> Selveste1_: that isn't the output from the command mentioned above.
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| 14:29 | Selveste1_: could you please cut and paste the command and paste the output?
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| 14:29 | <Selveste1_> plz past it again then - thanx :)
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| 14:30 | <vagrantc> i'll paste a better version
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| 14:30 | <Selveste1_> thanx
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| 14:31 | <vagrantc> COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'ltsp*' 'ldm*' | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}' ; COLUMNS=200 dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l 'ltsp*' ldm | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}'
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| 14:31 | ltspbot: learn ver as COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'ltsp*' 'ldm*' | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}' ; COLUMNS=200 dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l 'ltsp*' ldm | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}'
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| 14:31 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: The operation succeeded.
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| 14:31 | <vagrantc> !ver
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| 14:31 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "ver" is (#1) to get version info on debian/ubuntu (please use the pastebot): COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'ltsp*' | awk '/^ii/{print $2}/^ii/{print $3}' ; COLUMNS=200 dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l 'ltsp*' ldm | awk '/^ii/{print $2}/^ii/{print $3}', or (#2) COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'ltsp*' 'ldm*' | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}' ; COLUMNS=200 dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l 'ltsp*' ldm | awk '/^ii/{print (1 more message)
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| 14:32 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: learn ver as ti get version info on debian/ubuntu (please use the pastebot): COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'ltsp*' 'ldm*' | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}' ; COLUMNS=200 dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l 'ltsp*' ldm | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}'
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| 14:32 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: The operation succeeded.
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| 14:32 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: forget ver #1
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| 14:32 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: Error: There is no such factoid.
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| 14:32 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: forget ver 1
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| 14:32 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: The operation succeeded.
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| 14:32 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: forget ver 1
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| 14:32 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: The operation succeeded.
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| 14:32 | <vagrantc> !ver
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| 14:32 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "ver" is ti get version info on debian/ubuntu (please use the pastebot): COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'ltsp*' 'ldm*' | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}' ; COLUMNS=200 dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l 'ltsp*' ldm | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}'
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| 14:32 | <ltsppbot> "Selveste1" pasted "Debian - LTSP" (5 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/284
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| 14:34 | <vagrantc> Selveste1_: i've mostly been using the backports of ltsp with etch ... been a while since i've used the regular etch stuff.
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| 14:35 | <Selveste1_> vagrantc - I will upgrade to backport LTSP then
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| 14:36 | <vagrantc> Selveste1_: most likely best to re-install the LTSP chroot...
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| 14:36 | Selveste1_: http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto/Etch-With-Backports
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| 14:37 | <Selveste1_> thanx
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| 14:38 | thanx
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| 14:40 | <Selveste1_> BTW - Do I have to have ltsp-server-standalone installed to ?
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| 14:42 | cause this server is not the one handling DHCP and stuff
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| 14:44 | <vagrantc> no, you don't need it installed.
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| 14:46 | Selveste1_: what's "and stuff" ?
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| 14:47 | <Selveste1_> just DHCP ^^
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| 14:51 | * vagrantc grumbles about gtk+2.0 not migrating to debian/testing holding up ldm and ltsp from migrating to testing | |
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| 14:55 | <Selveste1> vagrantc - same error after upgrade, and new build - http://myupload.dk/handleupload/f60abe58267d20efbb9b90acea104edd1237147673
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| 14:58 | <ltsppbot> "Selveste1" pasted "Debian - LTSP - after upgrade" (8 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/285
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| 15:03 | <vagrantc> Selveste1: ah, there was a bug in etch's initramfs that made it so you can't specify the ip address with nfsroot
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| 15:03 | Selveste1: so you'll have to configure your DHCP server to pass the appropriate next-server option
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| 15:04 | <Selveste1> Yes, and the next-server option is the one I use
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| 15:04 | I haven't specify any IP in the LTSP ore PXE config
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| 15:04 | <vagrantc> Selveste1: yes, but you passed nfsroot=ip.of.server:/opt/ltsp/i386 on the commandline
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| 15:05 | <Selveste1> that's true :)
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| 15:05 | <vagrantc> i think that will trigger the bug.
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| 15:05 | Selveste1: can't you pass root-path via dhcp?
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| 15:05 | Selveste1: alternately, you could build a lenny ltsp chroot on an etch server.
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| 15:06 | Selveste1: you're running the tftp server on the LTSP server, right?
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| 15:06 | <Selveste1> yes I am, but not the DHCP-server
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| 15:06 | <vagrantc> right. so the next-server argument should point to the LTSP server
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| 15:07 | <Selveste1> yes and it already dos - cause that is the same server as my PXE is on already
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| 15:09 | <vagrantc> Selveste1: could you paste your dhcpd.conf ?
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| 15:09 | Selveste1: and the actual contents of your pxelinux.cfg/default ?
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| 15:09 | <Selveste1> yes - just a sec
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| 15:11 | <ltsppbot> "Selveste1" pasted "Debian - LTSP - after upgrade" (175 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/286
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| 15:12 | <Selveste1> COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'ltsp*' 'ldm*' | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}' ; COLUMNS=200 dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l 'ltsp*' ldm | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}'
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| 15:13 | ups sorry
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| 15:13 | rung window :)
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| 15:14 | <vagrantc> Selveste1: you need in dhcpd.conf: option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";
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| 15:14 | Selveste1: and remove the nfsroot= option in pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 15:15 | Selveste1: and drop the "rw" argument
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| 15:17 | <Selveste1> still same error as the image I pasted
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| 15:17 | <vagrantc> Selveste1: did you restart dhcp3-server ?
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| 15:17 | <Selveste1> yep
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| 15:19 | <vagrantc> oh well
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| 15:20 | can't think of what else it could be. i've tested on *many* etch servers without this sort of trouble. so likely some missing configuration option somewhere.
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| 15:20 | Selveste1: run ltsp-update-kernels on the ltsp server
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| 15:21 | * vagrantc can't help but feel like LTSP in lenny is already old, let alone etch | |
| 15:23 | <stgraber> vagrantc: hehe, you also have that feeling ? :) must be even worse with Debian's release cycle.
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| 15:23 | <vagrantc> stgraber: what gets me through is keeping up decent backports
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| 15:24 | <Selveste1> vagrantc: so you mean that I have to upgrade to lenny then ?
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| 15:25 | <vagrantc> Selveste1: i can't figure out your issue, and i only have so much time for non-standard setups on old releases
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| 15:25 | Selveste1: have you tried a more conventional install? i.e. an LTSP server with two nics, one for internet access and one for the thin clients?
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| 15:26 | reducing the varaibles
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| 15:27 | <Selveste1> The LTSP server is on a local network, and only have to run fat and thin clients
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| 15:27 | <vagrantc> yes, but you could set up a test server, get familiar with how LTSP works, and port it over to your real setup
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| 15:29 | <Selveste1> thats right :) I will try that then :) I have a clean installed etch server anyway
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| 15:36 | vagrantc: is this option right "option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";" is it not suppose to be "option root-path "/opt/ltsp";" ? like the chroot on the LTSP server ?
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| 15:36 | in the dhcp.conf
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| 15:37 | <vagrantc> Selveste1: the former
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| 15:37 | as i pasted earlier
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| 15:37 | <Selveste1> okay
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| 16:03 | <vagrantc> stgraber: why the switch from ldm.png to jpgs ?
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| 16:05 | <stgraber> vagrantc: space on the CD
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| 16:05 | vagrantc: I'll move back to png once I've it split into different binary packages (will be in 9.10)
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| 16:07 | <vagrantc> stgraber: heh. i promised to help you with that... never did anything on it :)
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| 16:11 | stgraber: you in upstream version freeze yet?
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| 16:11 | <stgraber> yes, will be in beta freeze on thursday
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| 16:39 | <furiousdraz1> hi
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| 16:41 | just a question, do you know why i have to wait between 7-8 min between the choose of PXE boot and the prompt for login/password on my lightweight client?
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| 16:43 | <vagrantc> !release
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| 16:43 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "release" is please mention the linux distro and release you're using :)
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| 16:48 | <furiousdraz1> I used Linux Debian lenny with ltsp-server-standalone V 5.1.10-2 and ltsp-server V5.1.10-2
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| 16:50 | <vagrantc> furiousdraz1: what's the specs on your client? other machines boot ok?
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| 16:50 | <furiousdraz1> vagrantc: Hardware?
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| 16:51 | <vagrantc> furiousdraz1: yes.
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| 16:51 | cpu speed, memory, brand/model
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| 16:51 | <furiousdraz1> vagrantc: boot : PXE, 2Go RAM, Centrino Vpro 2 Nvidia quadro
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| 16:52 | <vagrantc> furiousdraz1: that's your "lightweight client" ?
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| 16:52 | <furiousdraz1> with direct connect 1Gb to the server
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| 16:52 | yes
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| 16:52 | <vagrantc> gigabit networking?
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| 16:52 | <furiousdraz1> it's juste a test with my personnal computer (a new HP)
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| 16:52 | vagrantc: yes
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| 16:53 | it's why i think that the "lightweight client" is not the problem
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| 16:53 | <vagrantc> no idea what would make it so slow ... i use a 2.4GHz server, with 400MHz-1Ghz clients and they boot in just a few minutes
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| 16:54 | without gigabit
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| 16:56 | <furiousdraz1> vagrantc: why 7 min to boot my lightweight client !!?
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| 16:56 | maybe LTSP configuration file?
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| 16:57 | is there any options or filte to configure to custom my boot in /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 16:57 | ??
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| 16:57 | <vagrantc> not really
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| 16:57 | <furiousdraz1> ohhh
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| 16:57 | <vagrantc> i mean, you can customize the files in /opt/ltsp/i386, but nothing i can think of that would affect your slow boot.
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| 16:58 | furiousdraz1: i guess you could install bootchart, and see where it's hanging ...
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| 16:59 | <furiousdraz1> i hear about : /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf ...
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| 16:59 | <vagrantc> furiousdraz1: yeah, but there's no LTSP_IS_SLOW=True option :P
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| 17:00 | furiousdraz1: is there anywhere it hangs on boot?
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| 17:00 | furiousdraz1: any messages on the screen that sit there a long time?
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| 17:00 | <furiousdraz1> i have to install bootchart on my chroot environnemnt?
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| 17:02 | at the boot (like dmesg) it stoped à 2" an 220" on mouse and keyboard but i don't remeber the message
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| 17:02 | <vagrantc> or you could just watch the boot process and see what messages seem to stall
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| 17:02 | well, boot it and get the message
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| 17:03 | <furiousdraz1> ok, just wait 8 min ;)
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| 17:03 | <vagrantc> or indstall bootchart: LTSP_HANDLE_DAEMONS=false chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get install bootchart
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| 17:04 | i don't remember what all you need to configure with bootchart
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| 17:04 | so if you can just look at the boot messages and figure out which places it stalls, that would be easiest.
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| 17:05 | furiousdraz1: besides, it will probably not take 8 minutes to find the place(s) where it is stalling
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| 17:07 | <furiousdraz1> [ 2.9...] usb 2-1: Product: Fingerprint Sensor
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| 17:07 | LTSP_HANDLE_DAEMONS=false what can i do with this var?
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| 17:09 | vagrantc: this is the first stop : [ 2.9...] usb 2-1: Product: Fingerprint Sensor
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| 17:10 | this is the 2d stop : [ 205....] input: PS/2 Generic Mouse as /class/input/input4
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| 17:11 | <vagrantc> the command to install bootchart in the ltsp chroot is: "LTSP_HANDLE_DAEMONS=false chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get install bootchart"
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| 17:12 | furiousdraz1: LTSP_HANDLE_DAEMONS=false prevents daemons from starting on your server inside the ltsp chroot.
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| 17:13 | <furiousdraz1> ok
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| 17:20 | <furiousdraz1> vagrantc: It's ok for the install of bootchart
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| 17:22 | vagrantc: no, i'm not abble to install this software!
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| 17:22 | <vagrantc> furiousdraz1: what's before the [ 205....] input: PS/2 Generic Mouse as /class/input/input4
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| 17:22 | <furiousdraz1> Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution :
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| 17:22 | gij-4.3
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| 17:22 | java-gcj-compat-headless
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| 17:22 | java-gcj-compat
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| 17:22 | libregexp-java
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| 17:22 | libbcel-java
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| 17:22 | libmx4j-java
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| 17:22 | liblog4j1.2-java
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| 17:22 | libcommons-lang-java
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| 17:22 | libcommons-cli-java
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| 17:22 | liblog4j1.2-java-gcj
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| 17:22 | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
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| 17:24 | <vagrantc> !pastebot
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| 17:24 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 17:24 | <vagrantc> furiousdraz1: pleaes ues the pastebot rather than flooding the channel
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| 17:25 | <furiousdraz1> vagrantc: here you can read the return of dmesg : http://paste.debian.net/30654/
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| 17:29 | <vagrantc> gah.
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| 17:30 | looks like dmesg from the server, which is pretty much useless
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| 23:25 | <dipeshmehta> hello all, at my PXE client, I am able to LDM login screen, when I issue username/passwd, it gets authenticated (I checked the auth.log) but then the login screen re-appears... there is error message like "unable to start X session --- no "/home/user1/.xsession"" in user's home folder, can any body shed some light please?
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