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03:44 | <envite> Hello All from Spain
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03:44 | Hola a todos desde España
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04:24 | <vanya> I have via integrated graphics card on some of my thin clients. but Xorg version bundled with ltsp 4.2 doesn't support this chipset.
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04:25 | vesa works great, but it sets 60 Hz refresh rate, not more
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04:25 | any options for me to set higher refresh rate?
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05:49 | <vanya> anyone?.
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05:54 | <randall_nowan> how can i automount a CD in the WS?
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05:54 | i mean, locally
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05:55 | just put a CD on the tray, insert and get it mounted somewhere in the WS tree?
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05:56 | with LTSP 4.2
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05:56 | I,ve got LOCAL_STORAGE=Y
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06:22 | <envite> I think there is no automounter like that
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06:22 | but you can play with client's hotplug scipts
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06:22 | see the usb ones for reference
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06:46 | <randall_nowan> i'll take a look
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07:23 | <cliebow_> Cripes:all three ubuntu machines are borked...
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07:38 | <cliebow_> ogra:got a sec? dpkg --configure -a borks at setting up man-db..any suggestions how to get around it
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07:39 | whoops..got by it.
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07:40 | scrollkeeper is borkd..
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07:42 | <arowanaj> nån svensk?
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07:43 | <cliebow_> reboot...God help
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07:50 | <arowanaj> omg, the debian-version are not working on a ubuntu system ?
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08:21 | <ogra> arowanaj, it should, even though the debian version is a bit behind ...
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08:27 | <ogra> (even though there should be no reason to use the debian version instead of the included ubuntu one)
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08:32 | <Dorphalsig> Hello
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08:33 | <cliebow_> lo!
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08:33 | <Dorphalsig> I'm trying to get LTSP 5 running in FC4 (using icevm), however, the clients never load X and when I try to do a startx at the server (just to test X is working) I get this error: R128(0): No DFP Detected
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08:35 | can anybody throw any bone at me so I can fix this?
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08:36 | <ogra> startx on the server would give you no info at all about the client ...
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08:37 | how did you install ltsp5 on rh ? did you use one of the tarballs ? if so, which one ?
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08:37 | <Dorphalsig> tarball of ubuntu
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08:37 | <ogra> edgy or feisty ?
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08:37 | <Dorphalsig> feisty
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08:38 | <ogra> ok
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08:38 | what do you see last on the client when it boots ? do you get a shell ? any error message ?
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08:39 | <Dorphalsig> I just get the big X with a grey background
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08:39 | <cliebow_> ah ha!
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08:39 | so xdmcp is not enabled
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08:39 | <ogra> you didnt fiddle with lts.conf, did you ?
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08:39 | <Dorphalsig> no, not yet
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08:39 | I did uninstall X and reinstalled it again
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08:39 | :P
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08:39 | <ogra> cliebow, it shouldnt use any xdmcp
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08:39 | <cliebow_> yeah.. i tought of that
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08:40 | <ogra> but the default background is black if ldm is used ... not grey
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08:41 | <Dorphalsig> actually... hold on lemme check my dhcpd.conf, cuz I have ltsp 4.2 and 5
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08:41 | cuz I could be messing with your heads
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08:41 | <ogra> aha
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08:43 | <Dorphalsig> :$
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08:43 | "/opt/ltsp-4.2/i386"
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08:43 | <ogra> :)
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08:43 | so there is your fix ;)
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08:44 | <Dorphalsig> hehehehs orry
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08:44 | lemme try 5 and lets see what comes up
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08:44 | cuz I still have the werid message at my server
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08:44 | <ogra> ltsp5 doesnt need X on the server ... it uses ssh ... all you need is the xlibs and a desktop session
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08:45 | (and indeed the openssh server)
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08:48 | <Dorphalsig> ok... ubuntu screen is up (takes forever to load)
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08:49 | Now I get the login screen
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08:50 | I type in my username and it tries to log in
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08:50 | but then takes me back to the login screen
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08:51 | for a second I can see the black background iwth the X on it
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08:51 | <cliebow_> so wouldntyou want to run ltsp-update-sshkeys..if login is a prob
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08:51 | <Dorphalsig> I think I did
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08:52 | ok now its done... should I reboot the thin client?
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08:53 | <cliebow_> cant hoit 8)
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08:54 | <Dorphalsig> Ok, rebooted the thing
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08:54 | and the same saaad saaad story
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08:55 | <Dorphalsig> cant get past the login screen
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08:56 | <cliebow_> Dorphalsig, any logs you can watch server side to help?
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08:57 | <Dorphalsig> Mar 26 08:52:16 ltsp sshd(pam_unix)[21209]: session opened for user root by (uid=0)
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08:57 | thats what I get on /var/log/messages
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08:57 | <cliebow_> how a bout a regular user?
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08:57 | <Dorphalsig> Mar 26 08:55:41 ltsp sshd(pam_unix)[21338]: session opened for user call2 by (uid=0)
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08:58 | <cliebow_> afraid that is an ogra question at this point
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08:58 | <Dorphalsig> ogra?
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08:58 | :P
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08:59 | <ogra> Dorphalsig, check .xsession-errors in the users home
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09:00 | <Dorphalsig> [root@ltsp call2]# tail .xsession-errors
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09:00 | Couldn't establish a connection to localhost:9202: IO::Socket::INET: connect: Co nnection refused
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09:00 | <ogra> and check that /etc/X11/Xsession exists and is executable, thats the default session on debian based systems, might be RH stores that differently
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09:00 | <Dorphalsig> '/usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
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09:00 | <ogra> oh
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09:00 | seems X11Forwarding is switched off in your ssh server
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09:01 | check the settings
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09:01 | <Dorphalsig> X11Forwarding yes
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09:02 | * vagrantc suspects /etc/X11/Xsession isn't present | |
09:02 | <cliebow_> it is like /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
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09:02 | <Dorphalsig> rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Mar 23 12:28 Xsession -> xdm/Xsession
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09:03 | <ogra> xdm sounds wrong ...
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09:04 | <Dorphalsig> I see one in that dir
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09:05 | What I cant seem to find is the Xorg executable
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09:06 | X -> /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg
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09:06 | <vagrantc> the xdm one might work, if it's generic enough
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09:06 | originally, ldm used gdm's Xsession file...
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09:07 | Dorphalsig: this is on the server?
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09:08 | <Dorphalsig> yes
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09:08 | <vagrantc> that shouldn't be a problem, then.
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09:25 | <Dorphalsig> then what could it be?
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09:27 | <ogra> can you do: ssh -X user@server xterm
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09:27 | from a different machine running X ?
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09:27 | <Dorphalsig> SURE
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09:27 | ack
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09:27 | sure
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09:28 | <ogra> does it start an xterm ?
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09:29 | <Dorphalsig> says DISPLAY not set
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09:29 | <ogra> so fix your ssh server, something is wrong with the X forwarding
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09:30 | (you did the above from an xterm, right ?)
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09:30 | <Dorphalsig> just did the above for Xterm on another machine
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09:30 | and it works
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09:30 | <ogra> aha
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09:31 | hmm
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09:31 | then its fine on the ssh side
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09:32 | <Dorphalsig> so... what should I check next?
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09:33 | <ogra> can you check that /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts contains an enrty for your interface ?
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09:33 | (might not be i386 if you took the tarball)
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09:33 | <Dorphalsig> for my interface? like the client?
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09:33 | it doesnt
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09:34 | <ogra> no for each of the interfaces of the server
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09:34 | <ogra> i.e. if you have twop NICs in there there should be four entries, one with IP and one with DNS entry for each interface
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09:35 | <Dorphalsig> actually I have one interface and I see three entries
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09:35 | ltsp ssh-dss
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09:35 | <ogra> ok
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09:35 | <Dorphalsig> ltsp ssh-rsa
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09:35 | <ogra> is the currently used IP in there ?
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09:35 | <Dorphalsig> yes
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09:35 | <ogra> ok, then this is fine as well
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09:36 | i wonder why it cant connct to $DISPLAY
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09:36 | <Dorphalsig> nah
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09:36 | just found out why
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09:36 | it was a shell inside another shell, realized it after
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09:38 | just redid the ssh thingy and worked
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09:42 | <Dorphalsig> what has not worked is the login :(
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09:43 | I still cant get past the login screen
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09:43 | <vagrantc> have you set LDM_REMOTECMD ?
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09:43 | in lts.conf
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09:43 | <Dorphalsig> no
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09:43 | <vagrantc> does /etc/X11/Xsession exist?
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09:43 | <ogra> try setting it to xterm (with full path)
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09:44 | <Dorphalsig> its a link to /etc/xdm/Xsession
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09:44 | <ogra> vagrantc, i think iots a link to xdm/Xsession (as i understood it)
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09:45 | <vagrantc> hmmm..
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09:45 | executable?
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09:45 | <Dorphalsig> yes
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09:46 | Xsession -> xdm/Xsession
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09:46 | :P
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09:47 | <vagrantc> Dorphalsig: try setting in lts.conf: LDM_REMOTECMD=/usr/bin/xterm (or whereever your xterm binary is)
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09:47 | <ogra> try adding LDM_REMOTECMD=/usr/bin/xterm to your lts.conf for a test ... if that starts properly yopu know something is wonky with your Xsession
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09:47 | <vagrantc> yeah!
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09:47 | <ogra> tsk, i'm to slow today :)
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09:48 | <Dorphalsig> ok... ubuntu loading screen
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09:49 | l oooooooo aaaaa dddddd iiiiiiiii nnnn ggggg
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09:49 | <Dorphalsig> I have an xterm
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09:49 | <ogra> applause :)
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09:49 | * Dorphalsig applauds | |
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09:49 | <Dorphalsig> :P
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09:49 | now how on earth do I get a desktop?
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09:49 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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09:50 | <jammcq> !sbalneav
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09:50 | <ltspbot> jammcq: "sbalneav" is Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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09:50 | <Dorphalsig> !dorphalsig
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09:50 | <ltspbot> Dorphalsig: Error: "dorphalsig" is not a valid command.
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09:50 | <ogra> so fix your Xsession handling :) .... or use a session script for the desired desktop you call directly via LDM_REMOTECMD ... as you like
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09:50 | * vagrantc just realized what !sbalneav is for | |
09:50 | <jammcq> vagrantc: it's a macro
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09:50 | <ogra> vagrantc, makro
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09:50 | <sbalneav> Saves jammcq some typing
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09:51 | <vagrantc> and re-useable by others, should they choose
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09:51 | <jammcq> reusable components
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09:53 | <Dorphalsig> ok
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09:53 | just did LDM_REMOTECMD=/usr/bin/icewm
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09:55 | <mhterres> hello everybody
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09:55 | hi jammcq
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09:55 | hi sbalneav
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09:56 | jammcq, What day do you arrive in Porto Alegre ?
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09:56 | <jammcq> April 11th
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09:56 | with sbalneav
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09:56 | and keithp
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09:56 | <mhterres> and what day do you leave?
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09:56 | <jammcq> and a few other friends
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09:56 | Apr 16th, Monday
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09:56 | <mhterres> great
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09:57 | we are organizing something for sunday morning
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09:57 | about 9AM
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09:57 | before the "churrasco"
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09:58 | go to the "Brique da Redenção" and "Parque Farroupilha"(Farroupilha Park)
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09:58 | to people know more the city, can buy some souveniers, drink some "chimarrão" :-)
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09:58 | what do you thinkl
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09:58 | ?
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09:58 | and you sbalneav
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09:58 | ?
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10:00 | <jammcq> mhterres: umm, been there, done that
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10:00 | <mhterres> :-)
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10:00 | * jammcq will likely go with marlon to buy the meet :) | |
10:00 | <mhterres> heheheh
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10:02 | <sbalneav> I'm going to be sporadic today. I'm at home, trying to keep my basement from filling up with water :)
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10:02 | <mhterres> what happened ?
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10:02 | <sbalneav> My neighbour always sees fit to dump all his snow near my house, which blocks drainage, and I have a window well which keeps filling up with water.
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10:03 | Until my weeping tile thaws enough to drain it, I have to bail every 1/2 hour :)
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10:03 | <mhterres> ohh
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10:03 | <jammcq> sbalneav: dude, they make these contraptions called PUMPS for that
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10:03 | <cliebow_> sbalneav:if i boot live cd andmount /dev/hda1 and chroot..shouldnt i be able to grub-install /dev/hda?
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10:03 | <mhterres> how about the temperature in Canada ?
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10:03 | is it cold now ?
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10:03 | <sbalneav> It's not the sump that's filling up
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10:04 | it's the window well outside the house
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10:04 | <cliebow_> sort of like Titanic?
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10:04 | <sbalneav> No, it's warming up quite quickly. it's 10 C here right now, so things are melting rapidly, hence the proble,
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10:05 | <mhterres> hmmmm, I understand
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10:05 | <cliebow_> any coment onmy grub-install piece?
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10:07 | <jammcq> mhterres: hey, where's your boss ?
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10:09 | <ltsppbot> "cliebow" pasted "default 0 timeout 3 #hiddenmen" (154 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/71
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10:09 | <cliebow_> anyone see a screwup here??
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10:11 | <mhterres> jammcq, He's in Sao Paulo
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10:11 | <jammcq> I need to talk to him
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10:11 | <ogra> cliebow, yes
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10:11 | <mhterres> today he'll travel to Manaus
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10:12 | jammcq, I'll let him kwno
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10:12 | know
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10:12 | <jammcq> sooper
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10:12 | <ogra> hmm, or no, not ...
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10:13 | <mhterres> ok, He'll connected ASAP
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10:13 | <cliebow_> i have a balky upgrade to feisty..didnt update menu.lst so imwinging it..and now cant get any kerel to mount a filesystem
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10:14 | <vagrantc> cliebow_: it's an anti-clutter mechanism
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10:14 | <Dorphalsig> Ok, it worked on vmware
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10:14 | <cliebow_> so looking for an error after manually adding new kernel
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10:14 | <Dorphalsig> however I cant even get the login screen on the clients
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10:15 | <cliebow_> vagrantc:does nothing for the mental clutter rapidly accumulating
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10:15 | <Dorphalsig> Cany get ltsp5 2 give me a login screen on the clients. all I see is a black screen with a cursor blinking
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10:16 | <cliebow_> good grief..no initrd there
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10:17 | <ogra> cliebow_, but you did use update-manager as advised and didnt fiddle with apt-get i hope
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10:17 | <Dorphalsig> :( I cant get a login screen on the clients :(
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10:17 | Weird thing is if I run with VMWARE it works wonders
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10:18 | <ogra> Dorphalsig, if your IP changed dont forget to run ltsp-update-sshkeys :)
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10:18 | <mhterres> guys: any upgrades in LTSP Feisty version ?
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10:18 | <ogra> mhterres, ?
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10:18 | <Dorphalsig> ogra... you mean, like from the clients?
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10:18 | <mhterres> ogra, Is it the same version of Edgy ?
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10:19 | ogra, I mean, what is the differences of LSTP in Feisty and in Edgy ?
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10:19 | <ogra> mhterres, its version 5.0.4 atm ... in feisty ... edgy has 0.134 or some such
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10:20 | <Lumiere> xp on the S ;)
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10:20 | <ogra> feisty has a completely new sound system,
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10:20 | <mhterres> hmmm, great
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10:20 | <ogra> lots of fixes beyond edgy indeed
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10:21 | support i'm just about to add a fix for support for usbfloppies
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10:21 | -^support
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10:21 | <vagrantc> ogra: regarding the usb floppy patches ...
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10:21 | <ogra> yes ?
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10:21 | <mhterres> ogra, interesting
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10:21 | <vagrantc> ogra: does it seem weird to modprobe within the ltsp udev rules ?
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10:22 | <mhterres> You guys, from Ubuntu teams, knows when there will be another LTS version ?
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10:22 | <ogra> vagrantc, hmm, right that should go into /etc/modules.d
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10:22 | mhterres, therte is none planned yet
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10:23 | <mhterres> I imagine that
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10:23 | <ogra> vagrantc, hmm, that needs more thinking i guess ... sad, i thought i could add it to feisty, but thats a bigger change
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10:24 | thanks for pointing
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10:24 | <mhterres> I really want to use the new LTSP versions, but I need a distro that have more than 18 months of support
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10:24 | so I need to stay in 4.2
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10:24 | <ogra> you could use the tarballs :)
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10:24 | <mhterres> from version 5 ?
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10:24 | <ogra> asd keep the server distro on dapper
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10:24 | *and
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10:25 | but you will need an ltspfs backport for that
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10:25 | <mhterres> I don't know that exists tarballs from version 5
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10:25 | <ogra> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/DownLoads#DownloadTarball
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10:26 | <vagrantc> ogra: whoah, you beat me to !tarball with the full URL :P
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10:26 | <mhterres> great
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10:26 | thanks
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10:26 | <ogra> heh, got it open here
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10:26 | <Dorphalsig> still nothing :(
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10:27 | <ogra> Dorphalsig, any other dhcp server in the network that could confuse the clients ?
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10:27 | <Dorphalsig> nope... I mean they boot OK
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10:27 | <ogra> oh207, i thought you dont see the login screen
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10:27 | <mhterres> this tarballs are new in the site
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10:28 | <Dorphalsig> ogra.. it boots ok, but when its time to show the login screen it wont
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10:28 | <mhterres> I looked for that in January and don't find nothing like that
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10:28 | <Dorphalsig> I mean I get the UBUNTU screen
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10:28 | loading
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10:28 | but after I get a big blank screen
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10:29 | <jammcq> mhterres: we just added that a few weeks ago
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10:29 | <mhterres> jammcq, great, I miss this in that occasion
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10:30 | <ogra> jammcq, we should have a package for ltspfs (server side only) as well on there
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10:31 | and probably some instructions how to install gstreamer-pulse and libasound2-plugins for differet distros so you get the full sound fun ;)
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10:31 | <jammcq> yes, we certainly should. I wonder who could create that package..... oh Scotty
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10:32 | <ogra> (these two are needed on the server for pulse to emulate alsa devices)
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10:32 | <Dorphalsig> ok so I run ltsp-update-sshkeys
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10:32 | and I get this
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10:33 | <Dorphalsig> logger: /var/log/syslog: No such file or directory.
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10:33 | <cliebow_> ahhh...better
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10:33 | <pscheie> morning all
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10:34 | <ogra> Dorphalsig, run syslog with the option -r on your server, so the client can log to it ;)
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10:35 | <vagrantc> ltsp-update-sshkeys is run server-side and uses logger ...
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10:35 | <ogra> ugh, since when does it use logger ?
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10:36 | <Dorphalsig> ooh
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10:36 | <ogra> gah, i know why i didnt like petters patch to that
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10:36 | <blinky_ghost> hi, I have a terminal that has a cs5535 sound board card, I've tried everything and can't get it to work, any help?
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10:37 | <bricode_> sbalneav: Looks like I'll be in your neck of the woods as of Thursday.
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10:37 | <ogra> vagrantc, i fixed the MODULE code today
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10:41 | <vagrantc> ogra: nice :)
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10:41 | <Dorphalsig> vagrantc.... just brought syslogd up with the -r
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10:42 | <vagrantc> Dorphalsig: you probably need to symlink /var/log/syslog to /var/log/messages or wherever your distro puts generic log messages
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10:42 | i mean, that's one ugly hack to fix it
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10:42 | Dorphalsig: the syslogd -r thing won't really address that issue
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10:42 | Dorphalsig: but it's probably good to enable anyways
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10:46 | <Dorphalsig> ok so I do that
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10:46 | after that I run ltsp-update-sshkeys
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10:46 | and that should let my clients connect?
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10:47 | I can get a login screen on vmware, but cant get it on the real client
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10:47 | why is that?
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10:51 | <vagrantc> hmmm... no login screen would not get fixed by ltsp-update-sshkeys
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10:51 | <vagrantc> Dorphalsig: so... X comes up, but no login screen?
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10:58 | <Dorphalsig> vagrantc... umm actually all that comes up is a black screen with a blinking cursor
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10:59 | I get to see the "loading" screen, but once it finishes loading, I dont get a login screen, just a black screen with a cursor blinking
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11:02 | <vagrantc> Dorphalsig: probably the video card was not detected
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11:03 | Dorphalsig: you might need to set XSERVER= in lts.conf
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11:10 | <Dorphalsig> hrmmm
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11:10 | vagrantc... what Xserver should I specify?
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11:13 | <Dorphalsig> ok will put sis
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11:13 | <ogra> Dorphalsig, hmm, yopu shouldnt need to except you have very very new hardware ...
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11:13 | but add the one matching the graphics board indeed
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11:18 | <Dorphalsig> ogra... actually I have very very very old hw
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11:18 | <dan__t> 'morning.
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11:19 | <ogra> well, your card should have at least 2Mb ... usually most of th eold chips are recognized
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11:20 | <Dorphalsig> ok just rebooted the client
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11:21 | and it wont work :(
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11:21 | X_SERVER=sis
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11:21 | <ogra> i doubt xorg has a driver called sis
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11:21 | <Dorphalsig> well it appears in the wiki
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11:22 | <ogra> try sis_drv instead
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11:22 | but it sdhould automatically fall back to vesa anyway
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11:24 | <Dorphalsig> is there any log that I can watch?
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11:27 | <bricode_> !sizing
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11:27 | <ltspbot> bricode_: Error: "sizing" is not a valid command.
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11:27 | <bricode_> !serversizing
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11:27 | <ltspbot> bricode_: "serversizing" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ServerSizing
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11:29 | <envite> ReHello
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11:31 | <Dorphalsig> ogra ... no luck
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11:31 | just tried vesa and nothing
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11:31 | <ogra> no
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11:32 | it should fall back to vesa if it cant do anything ...
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11:32 | if it doesnt evenm get to that point there must be something else in the way
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11:32 | <Dorphalsig> because my messages file reports this:
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11:32 | <ogra> drop the quiet and splash keywords from the pxelinux.cfg file
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11:33 | then you will see where it hangs
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11:34 | <juxed> i'm having problems with impression(CUPS), it follows the message
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11:34 | " Print file sent, waiting for printer to finish... "
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11:34 | what it can be ?
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11:35 | <Dorphalsig> it seems like its cups ... maybe the printer is offline or soething
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11:40 | <juxed> she is not off-line...
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11:44 | <Dorphalsig> ogra ... I'm getting NFS server not reachable something like that\
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11:44 | <ogra> aha
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11:45 | * vagrantc was stuck on much higher-level problems | |
11:45 | <ogra> well, either thats true or your dhcp points the client to the wrong place
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11:45 | i still would bet for a second dhcp server ... a DSL router perhaps ?
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11:46 | <Dorphalsig> not as far as I know
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11:46 | lemme check my firewall
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11:48 | <Dorphalsig> ok I'm now positive I dont have dhcpd servers running
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11:48 | other than the 1 on my ltsp machine
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11:49 | <Dorphalsig> !pastebot
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11:49 | <ltspbot> Dorphalsig: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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11:51 | <ltsppbot> "dorphalsig" pasted "NFS timed out" (26 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/72
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11:54 | <vagrantc> does the version of initramfs-tools in edgy retry the NFS mount after failure?
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11:56 | patches were added in debian etch a while ago... probably didn't make it into edgy
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11:57 | <Dorphalsig> OK I get NFS server 192.168.99.4 not responding
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11:57 | rthen I get an OK
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11:58 | and then I get the same thing "still trying"
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12:00 | <vagrantc> !nfs
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12:00 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: Error: "nfs" is not a valid command.
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12:00 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: factoids search --values
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12:00 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: 'ltsp', 'ubuntu', 'sbalneav', 'icewm', 'frappr', 'wiki', 'debian', 'edubuntu', 'dhcpd', 'greyscreen', 'grayscreen', 'ltsp42', 'localdev', 'checklist', 'muekow', 'bestltspdistro', 'serversize', 'serversizing', 'wireless', 'sound', 'topics', 'ubuntuquick', 'integration', 'lts.conf', 'pastebot', 'bootfloppy', 'ltsp5', 'tarball', 'download', 'monkeys', and 'ogra'
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12:01 | <vagrantc> i think there's a wiki page about troubleshooting NFS
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12:01 | ...
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12:02 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/NFS#NFS_Server_not_responding
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12:04 | <Dorphalsig> vagrantc ... it already has those params
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12:05 | <vagrantc> Dorphalsig: MOPTS, or NFSOPTS ?
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12:05 | <Dorphalsig> MOPTS=nolock,ro,wsize=2048,rsize=2
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12:05 | <vagrantc> use NFSOPTS
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12:06 | Dorphalsig: see the section for ubuntu, since you're using an ubuntu tarball
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12:10 | <Dorphalsig> starting kernel event manager ...
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12:11 | setting up ltsp client
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12:13 | <vagrantc> sounds better
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12:14 | <Dorphalsig> wooohooo
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12:15 | lov e u guys
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12:18 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: learn nfs as the protocol that serves the files needed by LTSP. You can find info at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/NFS
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12:18 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: The operation succeeded.
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12:19 | <vagrantc> ogra: i seem to recall you made some patches for the ltsp-client-builder progress bar ... on debian, it hits 50% and then stalls and eventually finished at 100%
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12:19 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: learn nfsnotresp as Sometimes moving from UDP to TCP trasmission on your NFS can help. See http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/NFS#NFS_Server_not_responding
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12:19 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: The operation succeeded.
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12:20 | <sbalneav> !topcs
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12:20 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "topcs" is not a valid command.
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12:20 | <sbalneav> !topics
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12:20 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "topics" is To get a list of topics, type ltspbot: factoids search --values
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12:20 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: factoids search --values
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12:20 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: 'ltsp', 'ubuntu', 'sbalneav', 'icewm', 'frappr', 'wiki', 'debian', 'edubuntu', 'dhcpd', 'greyscreen', 'grayscreen', 'ltsp42', 'localdev', 'checklist', 'muekow', 'bestltspdistro', 'serversize', 'serversizing', 'wireless', 'sound', 'topics', 'ubuntuquick', 'integration', 'lts.conf', 'pastebot', 'bootfloppy', 'ltsp5', 'tarball', 'download', 'monkeys', 'ogra', 'nfs', and 'nfsnotresp'
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13:20 | <cliebow__> ltspbot learn j as jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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13:20 | <ltspbot> cliebow__: The operation succeeded.
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13:21 | <Lumiere> ltspbot learn j as jstraw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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13:21 | <ltspbot> Lumiere: The operation succeeded.
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13:21 | <Lumiere> XD
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13:21 | !j
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13:21 | <ltspbot> Lumiere: "j" is (#1) jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, or (#2) jstraw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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13:22 | <cliebow__> !j1
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13:22 | <ltspbot> cliebow__: Error: "j1" is not a valid command.
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13:22 | <cliebow__> !j
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13:22 | <ltspbot> cliebow__: "j" is (#1) jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, or (#2) jstraw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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13:22 | <cliebow__> how about an if statement..?
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13:23 | .............ltspbot learn !j if exist
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13:23 | zed?
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13:23 | <Lumiere> lol
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13:45 | <agliodbs> jammcq: you book hotel for FISL yet?
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15:03 | <ltspbot> cliebow_: "j" is (#1) jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, or (#2) jstraw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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15:09 | <agliodbs> jammcq: you book hotel for FISL yet?
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15:09 | sorry
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15:23 | <mgli> please, can me anybody help?
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15:25 | i've troble with booting with thin clent from HP .
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15:25 | i upgraded to ltsp 4.2 (k12lpst 5) from ltsp 4.0 and kernels freezes after boot
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15:26 | I'am trying older kernel bzImage-2.4.26-ltsp-3 and booting stop with message: Enter runlevel.. ???
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15:29 | When I booting the new - bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1 - boot stoped after request to dhcp server (fro user space). DHCP server recieved request, but client the response not accept with message: 'ERROR: dhcpcd...'
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15:30 | My dhcp and tftp server working well - clients with etherboot kernels boots ok.
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15:30 | Please, have you anybody any idea?
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15:32 | The error message:
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15:32 | ERROR! dhcpd failed! Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
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15:43 | <sbalneav> mgli: Can you paste your dhcpd.conf file to the pastebot?
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15:43 | !pastebot
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15:43 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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15:44 | <mgli> ok - I'lll try it
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15:46 | <ltsppbot> "mgli" pasted "dhcpd.conf" (94 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/73
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15:46 | <mgli> yes - it is This content is stored as http://pastebot.ltsp.org/73.
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15:46 | this is not whole my conf file...
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15:47 | <sbalneav> Why not?
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15:48 | <mgli> the NIC in the HP thin client is vhia-rhine
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15:48 | <mgli> I'll paste whole file.... please wait.
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15:49 | <sbalneav> You haven't got any indication as to what kernel is what. Are you using LTSP 4.2 supplied kernels?
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15:50 | <sbalneav> Did you use the ltsputils package to download ltsp 4.2?
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15:51 | <mgli> yes - bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
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15:51 | this is the last kernel from ltsp 4.2
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15:51 | which i found
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15:52 | <sbalneav> Which clients are you having trouble on?
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15:52 | The i386 ones?
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15:52 | <mgli> DHCP and TFTP work well with etherboot clients, but the PXE client HP t5000 freeze
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15:52 | yes i386
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15:53 | <sbalneav> OK, because you'll have to adjust the "filename" parameter for the new kernel
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15:54 | i.e., you need something like "filename "/lts/2.6.17.8-ltsp-1/pxe/pxelinux.0"
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15:54 | <mgli> host ws057 {
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15:54 | hardware ethernet 00:14:C2:05:AF:CE;
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15:54 | fixed-address 192.168.1.157;
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15:54 | filename "/lts/pxe/pxelinux.0";
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15:54 | }
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15:54 | <sbalneav> Where are your kernels stored?
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15:54 | /tftpboot?
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15:55 | <mgli> this is the entry in dhcpd.conf for HP client
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15:55 | yes in /tftpboot
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15:55 | <sbalneav> what dirs do you have in /tftpboot/lts?
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15:56 | <mgli> dirs: /boot /pxe
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15:56 | <sbalneav> That doesn't seem right
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15:56 | <mgli> and /pxe/pxelinux.cfg
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15:57 | <sbalneav> ltsp supplied kernels usualy have the version number
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15:57 | <mgli> this is the install from k12ltsp 5.....
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15:57 | <jammcq> if he's using k12ltsp, he won't have a version number on the 'filename' entry
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15:58 | <sbalneav> ok
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15:58 | Then I'm at a loss.
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15:58 | Ask on the K12 mailing list, I guess.
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15:58 | <jammcq> what's the problem he's having?
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15:59 | <sbalneav> kernel won't load.
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15:59 | A chunk of his dhcpd.conf is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/73
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16:00 | Gotta go bail, be back later.
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16:00 | <mgli> my HP client recieved kernel (PXE) from tftp and after the second (from userspace) request to the dhcp server stop (freeze):
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16:00 | ERROR! dhcpd failed!
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16:00 | no, kernel load, but cannot recieved the response from dhcp
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16:00 | <jammcq> how does that work at all?
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16:00 | looks like a 'elsif' that isn't part of a previous 'if'
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16:01 | * jammcq wishes people would learn how to indent their dhcpd.conf files | |
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16:02 | <agliodbs> jammcq: hey, I was on earlier ... do you have a hotel for FISL yet?
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16:02 | <jammcq> agliodbs: the fisl organizers are taking care of that
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16:03 | marlon said it would be the same place as last year. problem is, I don't remember where that was
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16:03 | <ltsppbot> "mgli" pasted "dhcpd.conf" (353 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/74
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16:03 | <mgli> now this is the whole dhcpd.conf
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16:03 | <jammcq> mgli: which workstation are you having trouble with?
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16:04 | <mgli> HP t5000 - NIC vhia rhine
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16:04 | PXE boot
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16:04 | <jammcq> which one in the config file?
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16:04 | <mgli> host ws057 {
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16:04 | (22:50:36) mgli: hardware ethernet 00:14:C2:05:AF:CE;
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16:04 | (22:50:36) mgli: fixed-address 192.168.1.157;
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16:05 | i have 17 psc of this HP client
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16:05 | <jammcq> mgli: you should have something like:
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16:05 | filename "/lts/2.6.17-ltsp-3/pxelinux.0";
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16:06 | or whatever kernel version you have
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16:06 | <mgli> ok - i'll try
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16:06 | <jammcq> double check the version number you have
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16:06 | then, go look in /tftpboot/lts, and make sure you have that directory
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16:07 | <mgli> i've upgraded fro old k12 (FC3) to the new one..... with the old k12, works HP well.
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16:07 | version of what?
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16:07 | <jammcq> so you are using k12? do this: ls -ld /tftpboot/lts
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16:07 | <mgli> yes k12 5.0
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16:09 | but i dont have directory /tftpboot/lts/2.6.17-ltsp-3/
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16:14 | <jammcq> mgli: what directories do you have?
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16:14 | <mgli> now i have thats you write
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16:16 | yes 2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
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16:18 | My dirs for tfpd:
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16:18 | /tftpboot/lts/pxe, /tftpboot/lts/pxe/pxelinux.cfg
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16:18 | /tftpboot/lts/boot
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16:19 | <jammcq> what's in /tftpboot/lts/pxe ?
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16:19 | <mgli> now i cretaed /tftpboot/lts/2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
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16:19 | <jammcq> no
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16:19 | don't be doing that
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16:19 | you should only have that directory, if you've actually installed that kernel
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16:20 | <mgli> there are kernels, pxelinux.0
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16:20 | <jammcq> so you have: /tftpboot/lts/pxe/pxelinux.0 ?
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16:21 | <mgli> yes - this is from k12
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16:21 | <jammcq> "yes" what? I don't even know what questions you are answering
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16:21 | <mgli> so you have: /tftpboot/lts/pxe/pxelinux.0 ? - yes
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16:22 | <jammcq> ah
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16:22 | ok, what is in /tftpboot/lts/pxe/pxelinux.cfg/default ?
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16:22 | <mgli> prompt 0
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16:22 | label linux
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16:22 | kernel vmlinuz.ltsp
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16:22 | append root=/dev/ram0 rw initrd=initramfs.gz
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16:23 | <jammcq> ok, do you have /tftpboot/lts/pxe/vmlinuz.ltsp ?
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16:23 | <mgli> vmlinuz.ltsp is symlink to the bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
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16:23 | <jammcq> where?
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16:23 | <mgli> parent directory
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16:24 | <jammcq> specify
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16:24 | <mgli> in /tftpboot/lts/pxe: vmlinuz.ltsp -> bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
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16:24 | <jammcq> ok, well, that should work
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16:25 | *should*
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16:25 | your filename entry should be:
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16:25 | filename "/lts/pxe/pxelinux.0";
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16:25 | <mgli> yes - it is
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16:26 | after boot - the PXE kernel is download with tftp.... but after the 'second' request to dhcp server.... stop: error dhcpd
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16:27 | <jammcq> ah
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16:27 | <mgli> via-rhine driver in kernel?
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16:27 | <jammcq> so the kernel is loaded, but fails to get its 2nd dhcp request
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16:27 | <mgli> ok! yes
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16:28 | <jammcq> what model HP ?
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16:28 | <mgli> HP t5000
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16:28 | NIC VIA rhine....
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16:28 | i thing, the NIC is the problem
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16:28 | maybe
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16:29 | <jammcq> hmm, we've seen problems with various drivers for the via-rhine
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16:29 | but I thought that was fixed in 2.6.17.8
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16:30 | <mgli> DHCP server recieve DHCDISCOVER from that client and send DHCPREQUEST..... but client not
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16:30 | client not recievet this answer.... I think
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16:32 | <mgli> i tried the old kernel 2.4.26 - here is no problem with dhcp, but this kernel stoped with message:
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16:33 | Enter runlevel:
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16:33 | after runing /sbin/init
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16:33 | <jammcq> yeah, 2.4 kernels DEFINATELY won't work with ltsp-4.2
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16:33 | <mgli> can i use 2.4 kernels with LTSP 4.2?
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16:33 | <jammcq> no, not at all
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16:33 | <mgli> ou
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16:33 | <jammcq> I'm using an HP 5300 with no problem
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16:34 | <mgli> this is problem - the old kernels (with older ltsp) worked with HP t5000 well :-(
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16:34 | HP 5300 have the same NIC?
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16:35 | <jammcq> I'm pretty sure its a via-rhine
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16:35 | <mgli> VIA Rhine II?
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16:36 | ach..... tomorow will be the classroom with HP t5000 dead :-)
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16:36 | :-( correct
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16:37 | <jammcq> hmm
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16:37 | are you using 2.6.17.8 or 2.6.17.3 ?
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16:38 | after the client fails, you should be able to scroll backwards with Shift-PageUp
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16:38 | and go all the way back to the beginning, and see which kernel it is booting
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16:38 | <mgli> at the last i tried 2.6.17.8...
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16:39 | no - kernel panic
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16:39 | i'm sure the 2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
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16:40 | <jammcq> hmm, that's the latest kernel for ltsp-4.2
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16:40 | <mgli> i see the message:
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16:40 | insmod /lib/modules.2.6.17.8-ltsp-1/kernel/drivers/net/via-rhine.ko
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16:42 | last message from the client screen:
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16:42 | eth0: link up, 10Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x4DE1
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16:42 | ERROR! dhcpcp failed!
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16:42 | Kernel panic......
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16:42 | <jammcq> 10Mbps ?
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16:42 | is this going to a SWITCH or a HUB ?
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16:43 | <mgli> no, 100Mbps.... sorry
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16:43 | switch
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16:43 | <jammcq> k
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16:43 | <mgli> I'am here 4 hours and now there is 23.40... sorry
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16:45 | with the 2.4 kernel the 2nd request to the dhcp server is ok....
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16:45 | 2.4 kernel stop after running /sbin/init (pivot_root)
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16:46 | <jammcq> there appears to be a problem with the via-rhine driver in the 2.6.17.8 kernel
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16:46 | <mgli> yes, i think too...
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16:46 | the older one?
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16:47 | in what version ltsp can i use 2.4 kernels?
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16:48 | <jammcq> you could try the 2.6.16-1 kernel with ltsp-4.2
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16:48 | <mgli> 2.4 kernels worked ok
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16:48 | <jammcq> you could use ltsp-4.1, but then you won't get the great local devices
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16:48 | hang on a minute, and I'll get you the url for the 2.6.16.1 kernel
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16:51 | <mgli> please, from where can i download ltsp-4.1?
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16:52 | http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/ltsp-4.1/ - from this URL?
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16:54 | <jammcq> no, hang on a sec
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16:54 | <mgli> ok
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16:57 | <jammcq> http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/ltsp-4.2/
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16:57 | in there, is 2 files you'll need
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16:58 | ltsp-kernel-2.6.16.1-ltsp-2-0-i386.tgz
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16:58 | and ltsp-modules-2.6.16.1-ltsp-2-0-i386.tgz
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16:58 | <mgli> ok, thanks
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16:58 | <jammcq> you'll need both of those
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16:58 | when you get the kernel package, go to /tftpboot/lts
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16:59 | in that directory, then un-tar the file
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16:59 | it'll make /tftpboot/lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/*
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16:59 | and, to install the modules, go into /opt/ltsp
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16:59 | and untar the modules package
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17:00 | it'll put it in /opt/ltsp/3i86/lib/modules/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2
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17:08 | <mgli> the entry in dhcpd.conf wil be:
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17:08 | filename "/lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/pxelinux.0";
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17:08 | ?
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17:09 | <jammcq> yes
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17:09 | that's right
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17:11 | <mgli> jam, you are wizzard!!!!!!!! booting. many thx
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17:12 | <mgli> in this kernel is another NIC driver ?
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17:12 | via-rhine driver?
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17:12 | <jammcq> well, it's someone older
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17:12 | same, via-rhine
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17:12 | <mgli> supeeeeeeeeeeer
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17:12 | <jammcq> is it working ok now?
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17:12 | <mgli> yes - client is up, gdm screen
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17:12 | <jammcq> ah, that's excellent
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17:13 | <mgli> thank you for your time
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17:13 | <jammcq> no prob
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18:03 | <cliebow> !J
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18:03 | <ltspbot> cliebow: "J" is (#1) jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, or (#2) jstraw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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19:01 | <gonzaloaf_work> !ltsp5
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19:01 | <ltspbot> gonzaloaf_work: "ltsp5" is ltsp5 is The next version of LTSP, and the future of Thin Client computing on GNU/Linux. http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5
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19:02 | <gonzaloaf_work> !ltsp5 debian
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19:02 | <ltspbot> gonzaloaf_work: Error: "ltsp5" is not a valid command.
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19:09 | <vagrantc> gonzaloaf_work: what do you need?
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19:09 | gonzaloaf_work: i work on the ltsp5 implementation in debian
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19:10 | <gonzaloaf_work> vagrantc, I know :p
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19:11 | vagrantc, I was looking for the documentation for install ltsp 5 in debian
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19:38 | <gonzaloaf_work> vagrantc, are you there?
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19:42 | <vagrantc> gonzaloaf_work: http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP
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19:42 | gonzaloaf_work: it's sparse, but something
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19:42 | <gonzaloaf_work> vagrantc, I've already ran ltsp-build-client
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19:43 | vagrantc, I want to set up the PXE boot, is the same was as ltsp 4.2 right?
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19:43 | <IRCzito_home> ogra: god night
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19:44 | I'm turn on today work to make lts-server for slackware
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19:44 | i want know wath's lsb_release -i -s return
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19:46 | somebody with ubuntu can execute this for me?
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19:48 | i want know if the result have space in white
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19:49 | :(
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19:50 | <vagrantc> gonzaloaf_work: http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto
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19:51 | gonzaloaf_work: also look in /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/
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19:52 | <IRCzito_home> vagrantc: are you using ubuntu?
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19:52 | <vagrantc> IRCzito_home: debian, but it's close
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19:52 | <IRCzito_home> vagrantc: can you help me?
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19:53 | <vagrantc> IRCzito_home: -s, --short show all of the above information in short format
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19:53 | <IRCzito_home> I see the man of this package on the internet
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19:53 | <vagrantc> IRCzito_home: -i, --id show distributor ID
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19:53 | <IRCzito_home> but I not know if the result have blank space
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19:53 | <vagrantc> on debian, lsb_release -i -s shows "Debian"
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19:53 | <IRCzito_home> ok thanks :D
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19:54 | so de version dont show
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19:54 | <vagrantc> IRCzito_home: -c shows codename
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19:54 | i.e. etch, sarge for debian ... edgy, feisty for ubuntu
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19:54 | those are the ones you'll need to know
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19:54 | IRCzito_home: do you have lsb_release in slackware?
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19:55 | <IRCzito_home> not
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19:55 | i can use /etc/slackware-version
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19:55 | <IRCzito_home> this returns Slackware 11.0.0
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19:56 | <vagrantc> IRCzito_home: well, it would be good if we could try to use the same tools so we don't have to fork code as much
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19:56 | IRCzito_home: you've seen ...
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19:56 | !integration
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19:56 | <IRCzito_home> I think that I go to use this: cat /etc/slackware-version | cut -d ' ' -f 1
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19:56 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "integration" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/IntegratingLtsp
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19:56 | <vagrantc> ?
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19:57 | while each distro should be free to implement ltsp however they want, it will probably save us time if we can share most of the code
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19:57 | <IRCzito_home> for the moment i suse sucefull ltsp5 which slackware11+ubuntu roo-tree
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20:00 | vagrantc: so i go find lsb_release for slackware for we don't have to fork code as much :D
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20:03 | ;)
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20:04 | <vagrantc> my skills at finding software for slackware are limited. you'd probably want someone familiar with slackware.
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20:07 | IRCzito_home: sf.net/projects/lsb
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20:08 | IRCzito_home: or ...
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20:09 | IRCzito_home: http://gforge.freestandards.org/projects/lsb/
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20:13 | <jammcq> hey kids
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20:18 | <IRCzito_home> vagrantc: thanks, i go see
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22:56 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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