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06:45 | <quinox> you can use a remote desktop solution
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06:45 | SSH, VNC, TeamViewer
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06:45 | and just run any of the non-fragile systems; OSX and Linux work fine
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06:46 | <quinox> My mother uses OSX with a backup drive which she connects when the Mac asks for it; once the hardware breaks she buys a new Mac, I plug in the harddrive and click on "restore" and she can resume whatever she was doing
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06:47 | I also know a guy who's mom uses Ubuntu, he does SSH / VNC when he needs to do any maintenance
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06:48 | I refuse to help my father, he runs Windows and keeps installing weird stuff breaking everything
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06:57 | If you stick to Ubuntu LTS you have 4 years before you need to perform a dist-upgrade
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06:58 | <alkisg> (dist-upgrade means "a normal update"; while do-release-upgrade is the one that gets you a newer ubutu)
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06:58 | They renamed dist-upgrade to full-upgrade recently, to avoid that confusion
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06:58 | <quinox> ah yeah, my bad
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07:00 | OSX can be fully controlled over VNC, including the login; I maintain an OSX machine in a datacenter on the other side of the country over VNC
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07:00 | anyway, my 2 cents
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20:58 | <alkisg> vagrantc: context = possible new name for ltsp... (liveclone)...
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20:58 | * alkisg hasn't seen any answers from ltsp-developer in ages now... | |
21:07 | * vagrantc would propose nettleboot :) | |
21:11 | <vagrantc> e.g. netboot, but with a sting!
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21:13 | hrm... there's already "nettle" used in the cryptography namespace
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21:14 | <mwalters> starboot?
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21:14 | asteriboot for alkisg ?
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21:14 | :)
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21:15 | (invoking imagery of a star topology for server and clients)
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21:23 | <quinox> it's more than just booting
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21:27 | <vagrantc> star topology is a nice metaphor to invoke
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21:30 | alkisg: liveclone, while touching on important aspects, seems a bit ... sterile
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21:33 | <alkisg> What was the other one... boottwin or something
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21:33 | vagrantc: true; unfortunately all the good names are taken :D
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21:33 | <vagrantc> looks a bit too much like boot-win
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21:34 | <alkisg> Organization names and user names in github get nice github.com/name pages, so they're all taken
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21:34 | And it's really not nice to have e.g. github.com/alkisg/ltsp, the project name in the second "subdir" there
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21:35 | <vagrantc> indeed
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21:35 | <alkisg> And projects don't get ltsp.github.io pages either, only organizations do; so ... all taken
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21:35 | I tried from "masi" maintain a single installation to any 4 letter combination with "template" or "desktop image" or something, .... all taken
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21:35 | <vagrantc> asterinet sounds good too
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21:36 | <alkisg> Yet ltsp was free, so I got it :D
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21:36 | <vagrantc> heh
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21:36 | <alkisg> That reminds me of asterisk
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21:36 | <vagrantc> alkisg: so, domain availability keeping ltsp high on the list? :)
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21:37 | <alkisg> asterinet => free!
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21:37 | vagrantc: I don't know... there's nooooo feedback from any of the ltsp.org folks
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21:38 | And it would take months to clean up all the old stuff that needs to be deleted, and not just code, but teams and repositories and all
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21:38 | Too much work for little benefit; people see ltsp.org and say "ah, abandoned since 2013"
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21:38 | <vagrantc> i hear ya
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21:39 | there is asteri.net ... which is some shopping site
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21:39 | <alkisg> mwalters: I reserved asterinet in github :D
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21:39 | How did you know that star is asteri in greek?
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21:40 | I'd like a name that would focus on "this project is about maintaining one image; we don't care if it's cached in local disk or if it comes from the net etc etc"... but... good names are really difficult
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21:45 | Btw, liveclone vs ltsp, adds 3*7 additional letters = 21 more characters in the kernel cmdline, with 255 being the limit... eh, hopefully we'll keep cmdline short
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21:49 | Another idea was .... some devs are starting to use village names for projects, like wayland, weston, dracut... so... syrrako, a nearby village here :D
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22:33 | <quinox> I prefer Syrrako over *boot
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23:48 | <josefig> one question, if I do the installation of the chroot fat clients, can it be possible to view home directories among all fat clients? between them.
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23:59 | I installed chroot ltsp fat clients, but among them they cannot see other users' home directories.
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