IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 24 October 2018 (all times are UTC)
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| 13:13 | <mwalters> OT: I know there's a few edu users here. Anyone using e2guardian for content filtering? Thoughts?
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| 13:13 | (My non-profit operates a private special education day school, looking for free/open solutions)
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| 13:41 | <Hyperbyte> http://e2guardian.org/cms/index.php/support
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| 17:38 | <robert45> hi guys, I need to update firefox on my thin clients, does anyone know how to do this?
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| 17:38 | I heard something about chrooting to the client image and run the update in there?
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| 17:38 | <mwalters> !ltsp-chroot
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| 17:38 | <ltsp> Error: "ltsp-chroot" is not a valid command.
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| 17:38 | <mwalters> D:
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| 17:38 | <vagrantc> robert45: depends on what kind of environment you're running
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| 17:39 | robert45: if it's a thin client, just update on the server, if it's a chrootless client, just install it on the server and regenerate the image ...
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| 17:39 | if you've got a chroot, then you need to run updates in the chroot
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| 17:39 | <robert45> vagrantc thanks. Im not sure, is there any easy way to find out what kind of environment Im running?
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| 17:40 | <vagrantc> ls -d /opt/ltsp/*
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| 17:41 | <robert45> vagrantc it shows: /opt/ltsp/i386 /opt/ltsp/i386.tar.z /opt/ltsp/images
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| 17:41 | <vagrantc> ok, sounds like you have a chroot ...
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| 17:42 | <||cw> and only a i386 one
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| 17:42 | <vagrantc> ltsp-chroot dpkg -l firefox
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| 17:43 | <robert45> vagrantc that command showed the firefox version I want to update! its there
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| 17:43 | <vagrantc> ltsp-chroot apt update && ltsp-chroot apt upgrade
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| 17:43 | && ltsp-update-image
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| 17:43 | <robert45> vagrantc that will update everything right? what if I want to update just firefox
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| 17:44 | can I run just apt-get update firefox?
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| 17:44 | <alkisg> sudo ltsp-chroot, and then inside that shell, apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
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| 17:44 | then exit and sudo ltsp-update-image
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| 17:44 | * alkisg waves, btw | |
| 17:45 | <alkisg> vagrantc: so, mate doesn't kill the processes on logout (unrelated to ltsp, but it affects us on thin clients): https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-session-manager/issues/165
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| 17:45 | <vagrantc> oh yeah, sudo... heh
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| 17:45 | <alkisg> So I'm thinking to kill them on logout by default `pkill -u $LDM_USERNAME`
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| 17:46 | Can you think of some really down side on that?
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| 17:46 | <vagrantc> alkisg: in the past, that caused systems to be unable to log in
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| 17:46 | <alkisg> It does so now too
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| 17:46 | <vagrantc> alkisg: it's been tried, and i reverted it
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| 17:46 | <alkisg> And it even causes dconf corruption
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| 17:46 | Eh, I mean, without the kill, users are unable to login
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| 17:46 | <vagrantc> the pkill actually caused failure to login as well
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| 17:46 | <alkisg> With the kill, it works fine
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| 17:46 | And we do have the kill for fat clients
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| 17:47 | OK, so any other suggestions?
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| 17:47 | Of course I'm nudging people over at #mate-dev, but I'm not sure how fast a proper fix will be available
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| 17:47 | <vagrantc> no other suggestions, just giving historical perspective
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| 17:48 | <alkisg> Any explanations on why they couldn't login after that?
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| 17:49 | <vagrantc> i suspect some daemons failed to shut down properly and corrupted somethingorother
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| 17:54 | <alkisg> vagrantc: howabout if I enable it for mate by default, and an opt-in for other flavours?
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| 17:54 | I.e. I'd check LDM_SESSION or something...
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| 18:08 | <robert45> I think it worked, thank you so much guys!
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| 18:09 | have a great day, bye!
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| 18:09 | <alkisg> np
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| 18:09 | bb
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| 20:25 | <alkisg> It looks like a `pkill dbus-daemon -u $LDM_USERNAME` is enough for a clean logoff
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| 20:25 | That shouldn't be too bad to do by default...
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