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| 06:36 | <fiesh>   alkisg: ok so again everything was frozen this morning, including my mosh session that complained that the network connection was gone... so it's defintely the network dropping, but I don't know why 
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| 06:36 | <alkisg>   Good morning fiesh 
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| 06:37 | * alkisg had to google "mosh", sounds neat | |
| 06:38 | <alkisg>   Maybe you could boot a client with a usb stick or something, leave it up all night, while also pinging at the server 
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| 06:38 |    In the morning, you'd see the time that ping lagged, and maybe some useful error in dmesg 
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| 06:45 | <fiesh>   I'll leave a ping and a dmesg -w running in the console and see what it says tomorrow 
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| 07:59 | <alkisg>   !uptime 
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| 07:59 | <ltsp>   I have been running for 15 seconds. 
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| 07:59 | <alkisg>   Good for you :) 
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| 08:52 | <Hyperbyte>   !uptime 
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| 08:52 | <ltsp>   I have been running for 53 minutes and 40 seconds. 
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| 15:11 | <Chap_>   Ubuntu 14.04.5 - After a recent chroot update I'm unable to mount local devices. Following the instructions at ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev I get down to the manual ssh -X -S using the /var/run/ldm_socket I get "X11 forwarding request failed \n Cannot open X display. \n Error: /tmp/.user-ltspfs/tmp is not mounted" 
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| 15:13 | <alkisg>   Chap_: are you using thin or fat clients? 
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| 15:13 | <Chap_>   Network boot with localapps 
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| 15:13 |    So, thin. 
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| 15:14 | <alkisg>   First of all try to get a root shell and manually mount the device 
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| 15:14 |    !screen_02 
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| 15:14 | <ltsp>   screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN 
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| 15:14 | <Chap_>   Yes, I can mount the USB in vt2 
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| 15:15 |    I do see an entry in /var/run/ltspfs_fstab 
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| 15:15 | <alkisg>   OK... those instructions are probably too old for problem troubleshooting... 
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| 15:15 | <Chap_>   D'oh! 
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| 15:16 |    We're not running your PPA 
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| 15:16 | <alkisg>   That shouldn't be a problem for localdevs 
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| 15:16 | <Chap_>   Printers work. We have mounted USBs in the past so I've definitely broken something. 
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| 15:16 | <alkisg>   But I'm not using localdevs extensively to be able to walk you through without me having e.g. vnc access to the system... 
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| 15:17 |    So I don't know what to suggest at this point, if vt2 mounting works 
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| 15:17 |    You didn't remove any ltspfs* packages either in the chroot or the server, right? 
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| 15:18 | <Chap_>   Not intentionally. ltspfs is installed on the server. ltspfsd-core and ltspfsd are *not* installed on the server. 
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| 15:19 | <alkisg>   Those go to the chroot 
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| 15:19 | <Chap_>   ltspfs is not installed in the chroot 
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| 15:20 | <alkisg>   Yes, this goes to the server 
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| 15:20 | <Chap_>   Both ltspfsd and ltspfsd-core are installed in the chroot 
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| 15:20 | <alkisg>   Sounds fine 
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| 15:21 | <Chap_>   Where can I find a good/updated manual ltspfsmounter line to test? 
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| 15:22 | <alkisg>   Unfortunately noone works on ltsp documentation anymore 
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| 15:23 | <Chap_>   Rebuild the chroot from scratch? 
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| 15:24 | <Hyperbyte>   Chap_, it isn't something silly like the USB device is formatting with ntfs instead of fat and ntfs isn't installed in your chroot? 
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| 15:24 |    *formatted 
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| 15:24 | <Chap_>   No this is ext4 thanks Hyperbyte 
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| 15:25 |    (tried with a few different USBs and a few different users) 
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| 15:32 |    I'm going to build a new chroot and see how that flies. 
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| 16:22 | <Chap_>   OK fresh & updated build-client also has the same problem, so the issue must be somewhere on the server. 
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| 16:57 | <Chap_>   For LOCALDEV do I need fuse module loaded on the server? 
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| 17:26 | <Chap__>   I wonder if this has to do with a python update, since ltspfsmounter is a python script 
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| 17:54 | <Chap_>   My /dev/fuse is chown'd u:root g:root on both client and server - wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev says should be g:fuse 
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| 18:21 | <alkisg>   That wiki page is extremely outdated, don't follow it 
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