IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 20 January 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:58 | <killermike_> (Using the command line option to specify different mirror. Seems to be working.)
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| 02:56 | <killermike_> WOOOHOOO! We have LTSP! I was beginning to wonder if that would ever work.
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| 02:57 | <slicknick5181> Has anyone had any experience getting an intel macboot to boot to ltsp
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| 02:57 | ubuntu 11.10
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| 02:57 | <killermike_> Not me, sorry.
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| 02:58 | Do Macs do PXE?
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| 02:58 | <slicknick5181> They are supposed to, But I am not having much luck
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| 02:58 | and research tells me that people have even had issues booting to mac servers so there may be no hope for me :/
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| 02:59 | <killermike_> I take it you know about using --arch (or whatever) when building the chroot environment?
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| 02:59 | Have you successfully done ltsp-build-client?
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| 03:00 | <slicknick5181> yes and yes I have a Dell intel machine booting successfully
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| 03:00 | however I want to add 64 bit support to my server and idk how
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| 03:00 | <killermike_> Sorry, I can't be much help. I'm just getting started with simple i386 stuff myself.
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| 03:01 | <slicknick5181> are you having some issues
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| 03:01 | ?
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| 03:03 | <killermike_> Actually, I've just got it going.
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| 03:03 | BTW, what country are you in? I had some problems with the Ubuntu repos when doing ltsp-build-client.
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| 03:03 | <slicknick5181> Nice! Are you running 11.10
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| 03:03 | <killermike_> I chose a different repo and it started working.
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| 03:03 | <slicknick5181> US
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| 03:03 | <killermike_> Yup.
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| 03:04 | <slicknick5181> I took the easy route and installed edubuntu 11.10
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| 03:04 | Sets almost everything up for you
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| 03:04 | <killermike_> It also didn't fill in dhcpd.conf with the right file names, which took me a while to figure out.
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| 03:04 | That sounds like a nice system. Are you using it in education?
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| 03:05 | <slicknick5181> Yeah I tried that route and was ready to throw the keyboard lol
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| 03:05 | No it was just the only way I could figure
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| 03:06 | <killermike_> It's shockingly buggy. You're better off avoiding if you can manage it.
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| 03:06 | <slicknick5181> Yeah it's running slow/buggy but I do have it on a pentium 4 just for testing
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| 03:07 | <slicknick5181> but even with no clients booted the server still runs slow
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| 03:07 | <killermike_> Performance seems acceptable here on a core duo running it between two VirtualBox VMs.
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| 03:08 | <slicknick5181> Ahhh ok how much memory do you have?
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| 03:08 | <killermike_> For the VMs? (checking...)
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| 03:08 | <slicknick5181> on the server
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| 03:09 | <killermike_> Just 512MB on the server VM. One client with 256MB. Quite nippy. 4GB on the actual host machine.
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| 03:10 | <slicknick5181> Interesting I'm running 1GB of memory but the processor is probly my big issue
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| 03:11 | <killermike_> Yeah.
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| 03:12 | The PDF manual has some guidelines for that. It seems that you need a fairly powerful server, particularly if you're scaling it up to lots of clients.
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| 03:12 | <slicknick5181> But I do have a newer machine I'm going to try the install the 11.10 server on and ass ltsp support and see how that goes
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| 03:12 | PDF manual?
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| 03:12 | DO you have that link handy?
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| 03:12 | <killermike_> sure...
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| 03:13 | https://sourceforge.net/projects/ltsp/files/Docs-Admin-Guide/LTSPManual.pdf/download
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| 03:13 | <slicknick5181> Awesome
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| 03:15 | <killermike_> Anyway... I'm going for a celebratory cup of tea...
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| 03:15 | <slicknick5181> Have a good one sir
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| 03:15 | <killermike_> Best of luck getting it going.
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| 03:15 | <slicknick5181> Maybe I'll see ya on here again
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| 03:15 | <killermike_> Sure.
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| 03:15 | <slicknick5181> Thank you very much'
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| 03:17 | <cliebow> another generation collaborates to get er done 8~(
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| 03:17 | 8~)
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| 10:22 | <tristezo2k> Hello
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| 10:22 | I have some general questions
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| 10:22 | that might be better answered by a person instead of doc :)
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| 10:23 | I am tasked with building an environment of workstations
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| 10:23 | As I understand, on a ltsp deployment apps usually run on the same server providing boot service
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| 10:24 | Is is hard or possible to mount a directory and have apps run on the workstation?
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| 10:24 | It is of no use to me to run everything on the boot server, since for example, I should be able to run a sip phone
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| 10:25 | and that must be done at the client.
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| 10:25 | I think of it as a completly normal workstation, but with the disk on the network.
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| 10:34 | <tristezo2k> Reading, it looks like I want ¨fat clients¨
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| 10:35 | hope they are low on cholesterol..
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| 11:53 | <VectorX> what could be the problem here, 64 server, got i386 setup, client boots, but when loggin in, screen flashes after password entry and then client goes back to login screen ?
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| 11:53 | ubuntu latest
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| 12:02 | <VectorX> the clients were working fine before via a virtual machine server so i know they are ok
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| 12:02 | <muppis> ssh keys
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| 12:06 | <VectorX> tried
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| 12:06 | and upadated
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| 12:06 | ie: sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys , sudo ltsp-update-image
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| 12:07 | oh crap
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| 12:08 | think i missed a step let me check again
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| 12:10 | hmm nm that wasnt it
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| 12:10 | sudo ltsp-update-image --arch i386
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| 12:10 | still not loggin in
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| 12:36 | looking in ldm.log on the client, there is a [ssh] CRITICAL: no respone, restarting
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| 14:40 | <shawnp0wers> I have an interesting question... Anyone figure out a way to make .jnlp apps work?
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| 14:40 | I realize this isn't specific to LTSP, but I'm having a heck of a time trying to get my thin clients to work...
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| 14:41 | Specifically from places like http://phet.colorado.edu
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| 14:51 | <stgraber> shawnp0wers: javaws blah.jnlp "should" work
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| 15:42 | <shawnp0wers> stgraber: Correct, but my teachers/students are visiting the website, and clicking on countless applets that of course won't open.
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| 15:43 | <shawnp0wers> I could download a specific app and make a script to run it -- but that really seems like a kludge (Especially when OSX and Windows versions of Firefox open them fine, it's given my Linux machines a black eye)
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| 15:44 | <stgraber> shawnp0wers: well, .jnlp are typically associatiated with javaws so you click on the link and it opens using java web start, at least it used to do that here until I got rid of java
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| 15:52 | <shawnp0wers> stgraber: Yeah, that's the problem, it just doesn't work. It's not specific to LTSP, it seems it doesn't work right under Ubuntu at all.
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| 15:52 | I tried going back to Sun Java, no dice
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| 15:53 | for some reason, Firefox just doesn't handle .jnlp files correctly
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| 15:57 | <Ghidorah> Hello everyone, I'm having some challenges with Epoptes. I use LTSP-Cluster. I have epoptes-client installed on each app server and in the chroot. One of the app servers is epoptes server. The problem I'm having is that clients will disappear from the detected clients. Additionally, none of the commands in epoptes impact the client.
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| 16:00 | <Ghidorah> My epoptes.log file on the server is populating with 2012-01-20 10:59:55-0500 [DelimitedBashReceiver,79965,172.16.26.46] Client disconnected: 172.16.26.46:36354 type errors.
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| 16:00 | <jammcq> hello all
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| 16:00 | <Ghidorah> Several messages a second
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| 17:42 | <sndwrx> I've tried to search around, but I'm under a time crunch to make a judgement call on a purchase.
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| 17:43 | I can PXE boot Wyse V10 terminals from Ubuntu LTSP server, but the screen goes black after a moment of displaying the Ubuntu splash.
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| 17:43 | Is this an X issue?
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| 17:43 | Am I better off trying to rdesktop to the server as opposed to PXE boot?
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| 19:52 | <ken26> I want to set up a standard common descktop for my users with the same startup programs, look and feel and icons
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| 19:53 | Also, I am using ldap to log in but using local directories....can I auto create home directories when a new user logs in?
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| 20:12 | <nubae_> has anyone here ever gotten ms office and photoshop working in an ltsp environment?
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| 20:14 | somehow think its a better option than virtual box
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| 20:53 | <tristezo2k> nubae I think you can setup a terminal server and use rdesktop to show it on the linux clients
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| 20:57 | <nubae_> well was thinking about using wine
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| 20:57 | <nubae_> id imagine that runs in the &opt dir right?
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| 20:58 | <tristezo2k> There was a project to run msoffice on top of wine.
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| 20:58 | <nubae_> most of my clients are fat
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| 20:58 | alsmot all
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| 20:58 | <tristezo2k> Not sure the current status
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| 20:58 | but it should be possible.
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| 20:58 | <nubae_> yeah saw it, its platinum
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| 20:58 | looks very promising
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| 20:58 | and i know photoshop 7 works perfect
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| 20:59 | just wondering about where installation should happen inside the fatclients
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| 20:59 | i doubt in the image
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| 20:59 | well wine in the image
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| 20:59 | the other stuff probably from the gui
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| 21:00 | <tristezo2k> I have no clue, I am new at ltsp :)
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| 21:00 | <nubae_> ah
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| 21:02 | <tristezo2k> But I would asume you should find a way to put it into the image
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| 21:03 | No, well, I mean, I am not sure yet how is the root mounted after the client boots :P
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