IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 7 March 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:05 | <arowanaj> Hi! Anyone who know if ltsp is dead, or have I been missinstructed?
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| 03:55 | <uwe> arowanaj, dead !!!
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| 03:58 | <arowanaj> oh =/
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| 03:59 | Do u know some alternative?
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| 04:00 | <ogra> ltsp isnt dead
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| 04:01 | <arowanaj> hmm, who should i trust ? =)
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| 04:01 | hehe
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| 05:03 | <cliebow_> Dead?? no way1!
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| 05:09 | <steven43126> Hi
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| 05:10 | When running ltsp-build-client it errors our with: ln : creating symbolic link `/dev/fd' to `/proc/self/fd`: file exists
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| 05:10 | how can i fix this ?
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| 05:12 | <ogra> dont install to an unclean target
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| 05:13 | i.e. sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386 && sudo ltsp-build-client
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| 05:14 | <cliebow_> ogra: most of my problems went away when my hard drive crapped out and i installed ne.all that is left is wirerlss card is detected as a wired card
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| 05:15 | <ogra> you mean it doesnt show up in iwconfig ? or how do you define "wirerlss card is detected as a wired card"
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| 05:15 | ?
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| 05:16 | <cliebow_> it dies not
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| 05:16 | the card is found but ubuntu thinks it is not wireless
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| 05:16 | wont accept essid or key
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| 05:17 | prism 2.5
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| 05:18 | works great with 2.6.16.7
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| 05:18 | errr
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| 05:19 | <cliebow_> 2.6.17.7
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| 05:19 | hell have ito lok now
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| 05:19 | <Bhaskar> i install LTSP, but the client is not booting from PXE why
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| 05:20 | Any configuration in BIOS of client?
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| 05:23 | <envite> ¡Hola a todos desde España!
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| 05:23 | Hello all from Spain
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| 05:35 | <Bhaskar> in which file i mention the MAC address of client
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| 05:35 | ogra, in which file i mention the MAC address of client
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| 05:37 | i install LTSP but the client is not running? I boot the client from PXE but not success
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| 05:37 | ogra, any configuration should be done in BIOS of Client? Pls tell me
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| 05:38 | <cliebow_> Bhaskar: ill look you up from work..ogra is out straight
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| 05:39 | <Bhaskar> cliebow_, ya you can help me
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| 05:40 | cliebow_, tell me how can i solve this problem
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| 05:40 | <envite> Bhaskar: MAC addresses are only mentioned in your dhcp config
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| 05:41 | <Bhaskar> envite, in which file
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| 05:41 | <envite> it depends
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| 05:41 | do you have dhcp 3 or previous?
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| 05:41 | <Bhaskar> envite, i have k12ltsp in FC5
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| 05:41 | <envite> no idea :(
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| 05:41 | try /etc/dhcpd.conf
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| 05:42 | <Bhaskar> envite, ok
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| 05:42 | <cliebow_> envite:he can set things in lts.conf by mac address
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| 05:42 | <ogra> that wont solve the PXE problem though
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| 05:42 | <cliebow_> bhaskar:is that a real old pxe?
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| 05:42 | <Bhaskar> cliebow_, syntax
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| 05:42 | <envite> cliebow_: yeah, I know, but I think it's better to leave MAc things to dhcp and use only names in lts.conf
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| 05:42 | <Bhaskar> cliebow_, no new pxe
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| 05:42 | <ogra> you dont need to set a MAC address anywhere
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| 05:42 | <cliebow_> true..didnt look
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| 05:43 | <ogra> PXE roadcacsts and should get an answer ... if it doesnt the answer was wrong or didnt come at all ... check your dhcp server
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| 05:43 | *broadcasts
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| 05:44 | <Bhaskar> ogra, dhcp is ok
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| 05:44 | <ogra> obviously not
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| 05:44 | else your PXE would work :)
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| 05:45 | <Bhaskar> ogra, ping from client also ok, checking from other OS
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| 05:45 | in Client PXE is enabled
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| 05:45 | <ogra> do yu see PXE recieving *anything* on the screen while booting ? or does it directly error out
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| 05:45 | <Bhaskar> but not booting from PXE
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| 05:46 | ogra, client directly goes to another system
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| 05:46 | <ogra> to a locally installed one ?
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| 05:46 | <Bhaskar> ogra, any config. in BIOS of client
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| 05:47 | <zald> question: why is that when i start my client it say "no screen found", but the server has gnome desktop environment install
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| 05:47 | <ogra> well, then fix these BIOS settings ... so it boots from the NET ...
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| 05:47 | <Bhaskar> ogra, Boot priority?
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| 05:48 | <ogra> zald, thats a message from yur xserver (graphics driver) that it couldnt autodetect your card or monitor directly ....
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| 05:48 | <envite> zald: that sounds as a LOCAL X server error
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| 05:48 | <ogra> Bhaskar, no idea whats wrong, i'm no BIOS expert ...
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| 05:48 | <Bhaskar> ogra, ok
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| 05:49 | <zald> ps aux | grep gdm it say "/usr/libexec/gdmopen -l /bin/sh -c /etc/gdm/XKeepsCrashing -noopen"
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| 05:49 | <ogra> yes, your gdm cant start because your xserver didnt find any screens to display something on
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| 05:50 | <zald> how do i fix this
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| 05:50 | <ogra> so it shows the XKeepsCrashing dialog
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| 05:50 | <zald> because im running the xserver to another machine , not on the ltsp server itself
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| 05:50 | <ogra> sure, thats how ltsp works
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| 05:51 | the xserver runs on the client ...
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| 05:51 | <zald> thats the error upon boot-up
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| 05:51 | <ogra> the users session runs on the server ...
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| 05:51 | <zald> no screens found
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| 05:51 | <ogra> right
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| 05:52 | your graphics card isnt detected or unsupported ... or your monitor is returning totally wrong vanuels during the autodetection
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| 05:52 | *values
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| 05:52 | <zald> but when i put into my default setup to run the xserver on the ltsp server it works, but changing to another x server i doesnt
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| 05:52 | <ogra> i'd try a differetnt monitor first
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| 05:52 | ???
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| 05:52 | <zald> okay ill try it first
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| 05:52 | <ogra> how do you mean ?
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| 05:53 | where do you put a "default setup" ?
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| 05:53 | <zald> before my xserver runs on ltsp server itself
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| 05:53 | <ogra> your xserver always runso on the client
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| 05:53 | it *never* runs on the ltsp server
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| 05:55 | <zald> ?
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| 05:55 | <ogra> the xserver never runs on the server ...
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| 05:56 | if you boot a client it starts the kernel, autodetects all confguration and then starts an X server ...
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| 05:56 | locally
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| 05:56 | <ogra> then it either starts a local login manager (ltsp5) or runs an X query on the net to connect to a server via xdmcp ...
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| 05:57 | if you run x on your server or not has no effect on your error
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| 05:58 | neither which configuration the server has
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| 06:10 | <cliebow_> /join #edubuntu-devel
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| 06:11 | <ogra> ENOSUCHCHANNEL
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| 06:11 | :)
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| 06:11 | <cliebow_> i figgered that out..quick1
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| 06:14 | <zald> i still got the error 'fatal server error: no screens found`, on the above message it say "failed to load module '192.168.1.251 module does not exitst, 0" that ip is my xdm_server
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| 06:16 | <cliebow_> bbl
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| 06:45 | <nofxx> mornin' ... I got 40 thins here...Winnet something is the model (VIA C3 800mhz proc).... using edubuntu 6.10 on the server. Problem is, only the first client boots....the subsequent ones stops at /scripts/init-bottom. Done. nothing more.. until.... "server ip isn responding.... still trying"
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| 06:53 | <calders> hi all
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| 06:56 | <calders> anyone home?
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| 06:59 | <nofxx> sorry... probs... if someone aswered, beg ur pardon
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| 07:06 | <envite> calders: somebody :)
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| 07:20 | <nofxx> there is a option "debug" on pxelinux.cfg/default ?
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| 07:20 | or only remove the splash is the debug mode?
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| 08:42 | <klausade> I saw once on my machine a program that helps me with converting 192.168.0.13 to C0A8000D, and so on , but I cant find it again. Any pointers?
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| 08:43 | <Gad1> klausade: there's always the calculator ;)
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| 08:43 | <klausade> Gad1: that is what I'm using atm, but that is boooring :-)
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| 08:45 | <Gadi> klausade: its an easy script to write, if ur into that
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| 08:45 | <jammcq> booooring?
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| 08:46 | I guess we need a program that lets you play shoot-em-up, while converting Ip addresses to Hex, eh?
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| 08:48 | <klausade> jammcq: i'm easy bored :-)
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| 08:49 | <klausade> the biggest "problem" here is that I have seen this script, it's somewhere om my machine, i just can't for the life of me find it.
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| 08:55 | <Blinny> I need to cat a file to a workstation's floppy - what is the path I should use in terminal?
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| 08:55 | <jammcq> that's not supported
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| 08:56 | <Blinny> Yuck!
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| 08:56 | <jammcq> you can't get direct access to the block devices on the terminal
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| 08:56 | only at the file system level
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| 08:56 | <Blinny> Ah ok.
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| 08:56 | Is there a supported method of making etherboot floppies from a workstation?
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| 08:56 | <jammcq> nope
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| 08:56 | <Blinny> Okay, thank you.
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| 08:57 | <jammcq> Scotty SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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| 08:57 | <sbalneav> Moning all!!
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| 08:57 | Hey jammcq!
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| 08:57 | Look what we did last night!
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| 08:57 | !love
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| 08:57 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "love" is all there is
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| 08:57 | <sbalneav> :)
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| 08:57 | <jammcq> heh
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| 08:58 | <sbalneav> We need to get a PF quote in there somewhere
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| 08:58 | <bricode_> !pastebot
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| 08:58 | <jammcq> somebody's got a little too much time on their hands
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| 08:58 | <bricode_> Where's the pastebot page again?
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| 08:59 | <sbalneav> !pastebot
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| 08:59 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 08:59 | <Gadi> klausade: perl -e '{$ARGV[0]=~/(\d+)\.(\d+)\.(\d+)\.(\d+)/;printf("%lX%lX%lX%lX\n",$1,$2,$3,$4)}' 192.168.0.254
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| 08:59 | just replace the IP with the one you want
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| 08:59 | ;)
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| 08:59 | <ltsppbot> "bricode" pasted "hextoip.pl" (7 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/31
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| 08:59 | <sbalneav> Geseundtheit
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| 09:00 | * bricode_ wonders if the ltspbot is ignoring him. | |
| 09:00 | <sbalneav> Shouldn't be.
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| 09:00 | <bricode_> !love
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| 09:00 | <ltspbot> bricode_: "love" is all there is
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| 09:00 | <bricode_> Well, works for love. Guess I'm set.
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| 09:01 | <sbalneav> Did you get a space or something? Try !topics
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| 09:01 | <bricode_> !topics
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| 09:01 | <ltspbot> bricode_: "topics" is To get a list of topics, type ltspbot: factoids search --values
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| 09:01 | <bricode_> sbalneav: Guess I added a space to the end of !pastebot the first time.
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| 09:03 | <klausade> Gadi: thanks, that is a workaround, the problem still remains: my bad memory.
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| 09:09 | <Gadi> perl -e '{$ARGV[0]=~/(\d+)\.(\d+)\.(\d+)\.(\d+)/;printf("%02X%02X%02X%02X\n",$1,$2,$3,$4)}' 192.168.0.254
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| 09:09 | i forgot the zeros
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| 09:10 | see, my memory's bad too
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| 09:10 | <klausade> YES! found it. gethostip from syslinux
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| 09:12 | <ramsys> bricode_: is u r isp give u connection over dsl with vpn
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| 09:12 | <PMantis_C> jammcq: ping
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| 09:14 | <bricode_> ramsys: Yes. My DSL provider doesn't place any restrictions on me. Why do you ask?
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| 09:15 | <ramsys> but is it on vpn ?
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| 09:15 | <ramsys> i was just thinking how it works
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| 09:16 | <bricode_> ramsys: I'm not using a VPN at the moment. I do have a static IP though.
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| 09:16 | <ramsys> ic
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| 09:16 | <bricode_> ogra: Are you the only Ubuntu employee on LTSP?
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| 09:16 | <ramsys> u r ip showing that it use von or is ti clocking ?
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| 09:17 | mailto:n=nf1@vpn-pppoe-213-240-242-237.megalan.bg
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| 09:19 | <bricode_> ramsys: I don't know.
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| 09:19 | <ramsys> ok
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| 09:20 | <Gadi> klausade: alias gethostip="perl -e '{$ARGV[0]=~/(\d+)\.(\d+)\.(\d+)\.(\d+)/;printf("%02X%02X%02X%02X\n",$1,$2,$3,$4)}'"
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| 09:20 | ;)
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| 09:20 | <jammcq> heh
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| 10:11 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> wow
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| 10:39 | <fabian__> hi
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| 10:40 | has anyone managed to get NCD thinstar running with LTSP?
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| 12:09 | <g4go> algm fala portugues aew?
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| 12:12 | Boa Tarde a todos... estou precisando de uma ajuda, pois sou novo por aqui
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| 12:13 | Gostaria de saber se algm pode me ajudar, na configuração de um terminal service
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| 14:41 | <mrchicken> HEllo =)
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| 15:05 | * efra_away is away: I'm out to lunch | Sali a comer | |
| 15:21 | <mrchicken> hELLO
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| 15:23 | <mrchicken> I'm trying to boot a thin client 2 boot
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| 15:23 | ltsp
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| 15:23 | however I get this message in my /var/log/messages
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| 15:23 | when it comes up
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| 15:23 | Mar 7 16:17:06 ltsp atftpd[2426]: recvmsg: Socket operation on non-socket
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| 15:24 | I see it negotiate with the DHCPD without problem
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| 15:48 | <mrchicken> hello??
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| 16:11 | <jammcq> hey all
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| 16:14 | <agliodbs> hey, jammcq
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| 16:21 | <jammcq> hey agliodbs
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| 16:22 | <mrchicken> hello
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| 16:22 | is anybody alive here?
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| 16:22 | Now I finally get another message on my logs
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| 16:22 | Mar 7 17:02:54 ltsp atftpd[2271]: Advanced Trivial FTP server started (0.7)
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| 16:22 | Mar 7 17:02:54 ltsp atftpd[2271]: Serving /lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-1/pxelinux.0 to 192.168.99.247:2070
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| 16:22 | Mar 7 17:02:54 ltsp atftpd[2271]: Serving /lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-1/pxelinux.0 to 192.168.99.247:2071
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| 16:22 | but on my thin client I'm getting a TFTP error File not found
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| 16:22 | <jammcq> ok, sounds like it can't find the file
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| 16:23 | <mrchicken> weird thing is ... I have nothing that resembles that line in my dhcpd.conf
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| 16:23 | lemme doublecheck
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| 16:23 | <jammcq> pxelinux.0 is a 2nd stage boot loader. the first thing it will do, is attempt to download a configuration file
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| 16:23 | usually called pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 16:24 | <mrchicken> option root-path "192.168.99.4:/opt/ltsp/i386/";
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| 16:24 | filename "/lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-1/pxelinux.0" ah there it is
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| 16:24 | <jammcq> mrchicken: that's not it
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| 16:24 | there ya go
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| 16:25 | but.... I gotta run
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| 16:25 | <mrchicken> so I should try and find a pxelinux.0?
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| 16:25 | and put the appropiate path in there?
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| 16:25 | <jammcq> you should already have it
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| 16:25 | if you installed either LTSP-4.2 or LTSP-5, you should have it
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| 16:25 | <mrchicken> [root@ltsp ~]#
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| 16:26 | ./tftpboot/lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/pxelinux.0
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| 16:26 | so I should change my root dir?
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| 16:26 | <jammcq> NO
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| 16:26 | it has nothing to do with root-dir
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| 16:26 | rootdir is used by NFS, AFTER the kernel is loaded
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| 16:26 | <mrchicken> then why on earth am I getting the not found!!
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| 16:26 | <jammcq> what distro are you using?
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| 16:26 | <mrchicken> FC4
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| 16:27 | <jammcq> ok, change your 'filename' entry to include the leading '/tftpboot' on it
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| 16:28 | <mrchicken> ok now let me run it
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| 16:28 | <jammcq> I gotta run. i'll be back online when I get home
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| 16:28 | <mrchicken> k
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| 16:28 | anyone else?
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| 16:38 | <cliebow_> mrchicken:
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| 16:40 | grep filename /etc/dhcpd.conf
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| 17:22 | <Regnad> I think I found a problem with the .deb packaging of http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/utils/ltsp-utils_0.25_all.deb
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| 17:23 | The Description: field shows: Description: Provides server support program for use in an ltsp environment
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| 17:23 | Provides ltspfs + lbussd, for localdevice access, and ltspswapd for
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| 17:23 | workstation swap.
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| 17:24 | <jammcq> ok
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| 17:24 | <Regnad> In reality the file contains ltspadmin and ltspcfg (as expected)
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| 17:24 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 17:24 | I don't know who the maintainer of that package is
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| 17:25 | <Regnad> Is there any good place on the Wiki I could post that the right people would see it?
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| 17:25 | <jammcq> no, best thing would be to look at the email address for teh packager, and send him an email
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| 17:26 | <Regnad> Lemme see here... " Scott Balneaves [sbalneav@ltsp.org]"
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| 17:27 | <jammcq> no
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| 17:27 | oooh
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| 17:27 | oh, that package
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| 17:27 | sorry
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| 17:27 | I was thinking you meant the package in the debian repository
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| 17:27 | you could email scott at that address
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| 17:28 | <Regnad> Yeah, I'll do that. It's an easy fix, and people love to hear about easy fixes.
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| 17:28 | later.
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| 18:19 | <jammcq> ogra: ping
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| 18:27 | <cliebow_> jammcq: would a problem in id of wireless card AS a wireless card be a udev bug..or kernel bug..2.6.17.7 ids it fine..26.20.9.8 or 9 wont
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| 18:31 | <jammcq> cliebow_: I think it's a driver problem
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| 18:31 | the driver knows the ids of all the cards it supports
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| 18:32 | <cliebow_> i see...
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| 18:32 | <cliebow_> it clearly finds the card..but as a wired card..
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| 18:33 | not wireless
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| 18:33 | wont worry tonight..reggae night in Maine
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| 18:34 | im not a ganja man..but heineken is nice
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| 18:34 | <jammcq> heh
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| 19:28 | <Regnad> Ok, I give, what IS the right URL from which to retrieve packages?
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| 19:29 | "http://www.ltsp.org/ltsp-4.2/" doesn't seem to be the right one (404 error)
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| 19:35 | Oh well, perhaps the mirror would be a good starting point...
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| 19:35 | http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/ltsp-4.2/
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| 22:14 | <ash__> Hi guys
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| 22:14 | Can anyone point me to an ekiga binary for LTSP 4.2
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| 23:08 | <Jenna> guys anyone experiencing a screen freeze. when u disable X windows accesss on the server. (am using k12ltsp 5 with ltsp4.2) ?
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