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Channel log from 18 March 2018 (all times are UTC)
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| 17:28 | <cshubhamrao> Hi!
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| 17:30 | <alkisg> Hello
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| 17:31 | <cshubhamrao> I'm working on my draft for GSoC, rewriting epoptes in Python 3 and PyGObject
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| 17:31 | * vagrantc waves | |
| 17:31 | <vagrantc> cool!
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| 17:32 | <cshubhamrao> I wanted to know a little about the motivation about migration to Python3, apart from the fact that Python 2 is approaching EoL
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| 17:32 | <vagrantc> that's the primary motivation
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| 17:32 | <cshubhamrao> (like what kind of performance improvements, if any are there?)
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| 17:32 | <alkisg> I think that's about it; python2 and gtk2 are going eol...
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| 17:34 | * vagrantc suspects python2 will probably have unofficial community support for quite some time | |
| 17:34 | <vagrantc> but since both gtk2 and python2 are being deprecated...
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| 17:34 | may as well switch both
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| 17:34 | <cshubhamrao> yeah!
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| 17:35 | * vagrantc looks around for phantomas | |
| 17:36 | <alkisg> there are no gtk2 bindings for python3
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| 17:36 | the mentor hasn't come in irc for years...
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| 17:36 | * vagrantc knows | |
| 17:37 | <cshubhamrao> Taking a glance at the GUI source, GTK3 migration is surely possible in time bound period
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| 17:39 | What is the status of Twisted on Python3? Are there any major modules missing?
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| 17:40 | By the initial looks, the parts of Twisted epoptes uses, have been ported...
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| 17:42 | <vagrantc> yay
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| 17:44 | * vagrantc doesn't see a python3-twisted-core package in debian | |
| 17:45 | * vagrantc wonders a bit | |
| 17:47 | <cshubhamrao> i thought python3-twisted covers it?
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| 17:48 | <vagrantc> it isn't obvious to me, but i haven't done much more than look at the package relationships
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| 17:49 | actually, they basically have the same dependencies ... so yeah :)
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| 17:50 | well, as same as python3 and python2 can be
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| 17:50 | i sort of had the thought of doing an introduction to epoptes class at a local non-profit i used to work at
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| 17:51 | they do all sorts of classes, and it might be a useful tool for them
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| 17:52 | <cshubhamrao> cool!
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| 17:53 | just checked opensuse... it has python3-Twisted too
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| 17:54 | <vagrantc> looks to be in ubuntu 16.04 too
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| 17:54 | so as long as the pygobject versions are generally compatible, sounds very promising
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| 17:57 | looks like python3-gi is available in both debian and ubuntu 16.04
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| 17:57 | <cshubhamrao> whoa cool!
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| 17:58 | <alkisg> Yeah the major problem was twisted,it took a long time to support python 3
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| 17:58 | The rest were ready years ago
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| 20:13 | <urly> Is it possible to get eg cheese running on TC with local usb webcam? If yes then how ? I run Debian9.4 64 server for thin client 32 with localapps
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| 20:24 | <alkisg> urly: localapps can access local cams, sure. Why aren't you using the full fat ltsp mode?
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| 20:24 | Which CPU and how much RAM does the client have?
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| 20:29 | <urly> I have many types of clients, so I wish I could use many sizes of clients. My test one now has celeron M maybe 1.7GHz, with 1 or 4Go of memory
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| 20:30 | * vagrantc would guess they would perform better as ltsp fat clients | |
| 20:30 | <vagrantc> certainly for the 4GB systems
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| 20:30 | <alkisg> Usually, when you are able to run localapps, you are able to run fat clients too...
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| 20:33 | <urly> I'm trying to run cheese, and more specifically qstopmotion but I have no device found. Should my user be in fuse group for this purpose ? fuse group is missing even if fuse is installed.
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| 20:34 | <alkisg> Run ltsp-localapps xterm
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| 20:34 | On that xterm, run cheese or whatever you want
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| 20:34 | If it doesn't run locally there... it doesn't sound like an ltsp issue
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| 20:44 | <urly> ltsp-localapps xterm breaks my session. So I tried gnome-classic instead of gnome-shell and qstopmotion works with local usb. ltsp-localapps xterm still breaks TC's user's session. Thanks.
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| 20:46 | <vagrantc> breaks it how?
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| 20:58 | <urly> When I ask for ltsp-localapps xterm in a terminal, the background and the decoration of the terminal disappears and the fisrt fourth square of the screen show a console prompt with my test user "toto" on the TC machine "ltsp20".
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| 20:58 | <vagrantc> impressive.
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| 20:59 | <urly> Then I get the LDM login wizard.
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| 21:06 | <alkisg> urly: gnome-shell is using opengl, and opengl doesn't play well over the network
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| 21:06 | It's best to avoid gnome-shell and unity when using thin clients
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| 21:06 | Or just switch to ltsp fat clients to avoid all those issues
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| 21:09 | <urly> ok for both
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