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Channel log from 22 April 2015 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:24 | <gymkarea> μετά απο ενημερώσεις και δημοσίευση του εικονικού δίσκου δεν μπαίνουν οι clients σε γραφικό περιβάλλον, το είχα και παλαιότερα αυτό το πρόβλημα και το είχατε λύσει
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| 07:30 | <alkisg> !greek | echo gymkarea
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| 07:30 | <ltsp> gymkarea greek: Στο παρόν κανάλι μιλάνε μόνο Αγγλικά, για υποστήριξη στα Ελληνικά από την υπηρεσία Τεχνικής Στήριξης ΣΕΠΕΗΥ διαβάστε το http://ts.sch.gr/wiki/IRC και στη συνέχεια πληκτρολογήστε /j #ts.sch.gr
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| 07:42 | <alkisg> !socat
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| 07:42 | <ltsp> socat: One way to share a console with a remote person is: [local pc] forward port 5500; apt-get install socat; socat tcp-listen:5500,keepalive=1 stdio,raw,echo=0 [remote pc] apt-get install socat screen; socat SYSTEM:"sleep 1; exec screen -xRR ra",pty,stderr tcp:REMOTE-IP:5500 & screen -l -S ra
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| 13:40 | <Uzzi> ltsp-update-image --arch i386 is it wrong?
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| 14:51 | <vsuojanen> was there a package in trusty that would mount localdev usb for xfreerdp ?
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| 15:06 | <vsuojanen> if i understood right ldm gets usb mounted with the ltspfs. is anyone using it also in chroot with xfreerdp?
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| 15:07 | <vagrantc> yes, there are recent posts to ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
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| 15:07 | i haven't used it myself, but there are several ways to make it work
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| 15:13 | <vsuojanen> what alternative ways you have seen for the mount? if there is ltspfsd or similar running i'm interested
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| 15:15 | <vagrantc> i think installing both ltspfs and ltspfsd in the chroot is the classic method.
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| 15:16 | which should automatically mount /media/root/
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| 15:16 | and then telling xfreerdp/rdesktop to show /media/root as a drive
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| 15:17 | in lts.conf: RDP_OPTIONS=-r disk:Drives=/media/root
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| 15:17 | someone also reported using the "usbmount" package.
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| 15:17 | <vsuojanen> vagrantc: thanks. i look them. i tried ltspfs in google but it didn't hit anything i could benefit
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| 15:19 | i saw that usbmount but didn't have time yet to experiment it
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| 15:20 | thank you mucho.
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| 17:16 | <epoptes_user3> how i can setup logon time for a session
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| 17:17 | for epoptes
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| 21:47 | <scotty_> Howdy. ANyone know why I would be getting a "failed login from root" in ssh log when trying to open ldm session?
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| 21:47 | getting the message in var/log/secure
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| 21:48 | It sucessfullly authenticates the user, but then fails a connection from root, then disconeccts the user
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| 21:58 | <vagrantc> scotty_: you're trying to log in as root?
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| 21:59 | scotty_: or you're trying to log in as the user and it's issuing an error message "failed login from root" ?
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| 21:59 | * vagrantc has deja-vu | |
| 22:06 | <scotty_> regualr user
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| 22:07 | getting the message in the secure log. Been beating my head on this for a few days now
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| 22:07 | <vagrantc> scotty_: distro? version?
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| 22:07 | <scotty_> using SL 6 x64, also tried centos 6 x64. Have done it last year a few times with no problems. Al single NIC boxes
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| 22:08 | using the dhcp from alternate server
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| 22:08 | <scotty_> next-server option
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| 22:08 | <vagrantc> unfortunately, there is virtually no support for redhat derivatives... it hasn't been maintained for years.
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| 22:09 | <scotty_> Noticed that. What is the best support distro for it these days? Ubuntu?
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| 22:09 | * vagrantc is partial to debian | |
| 22:09 | <vagrantc> ubuntu has been lagging a bit as well :(
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| 22:09 | but at least there are ppa's of current LTSP for ubuntu
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| 22:09 | <scotty_> just driving me crazy, as it works fien on a coupel I did just last year on SL.
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| 22:10 | Hmmm.. deb then is best suported these days?
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| 22:10 | <vagrantc> possibly something changed in the way ssh master sockets are used in SL ?
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| 22:10 | i'm biased, being the one who maintains ltsp in debian. :)
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| 22:11 | <scotty_> I'm not partial. If it works, that's good mby me :-)
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| 22:11 | <vagrantc> Debian Jessie (8.0) releases on Saturday
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| 22:11 | <scotty_> it includes support for ltsp then?
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| 22:11 | <vagrantc> sure does
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| 22:12 | <scotty_> That may be my route then.
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| 22:12 | Ahh, client just complted the build, let's see what it does this time
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| 22:16 | Wow, I haven't used irc for mabe 10-15 years. vagrant, you around here often? I may need some guidance if I have to go that route, appreciate your thoughts today
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| 22:17 | ok.. booting. got pxe.
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| 22:17 | got mount to nfs
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| 22:18 | pulseaudio errors, don't really care, this is for a business without sound
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| 22:18 | at login.. let's see
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| 22:18 | nope, back to login.
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| 22:19 | <vagrantc> i'm around fairly often
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| 22:20 | <scotty_> On ltsp box, in var/secure:
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| 22:20 | <vagrantc> but feel free to ask the channel, there are plenty of other knowledgeable folks around
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| 22:20 | <scotty_> Apr 22 18:18:39 rdp sshd[17955]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user scotty by (uid=0)
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| 22:20 | Apr 22 18:18:39 rdp sshd[17972]: Failed password for root from 10.0.0.108 port 3 7699 ssh2
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| 22:20 | Apr 22 18:18:39 rdp sshd[17972]: Failed password for root from 10.0.0.108 port 3
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| 22:20 | <vagrantc> a mystery to us all.
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| 22:21 | <scotty_> and a bunch more failed password for root., then close session for scotty
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| 22:21 | <vagrantc> oh, you're using rdp to log in?
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| 22:21 | <scotty_> Thanks, I will do that
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| 22:21 | no, rdp was the name I used for the server
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| 22:21 | <vagrantc> that's an unusual default.
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| 22:21 | ah.
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| 22:21 | (ldm does, interestingly enough, have some support for RDP)
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| 22:22 | <scotty_> all the business needs is terminals that can open an rdp connection to a remote server
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| 22:22 | yes, saw that. Wonder if it would auth with rdp as a backend
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| 22:22 | <vagrantc> then you shouldn't need to log into the server via ldm, log into your actual RDP server ...
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| 22:23 | or use the rdesktop/xfreerdp scripts instead of LDM
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| 22:23 | <scotty_> it's as though the x11 forwarding isn't working
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| 22:24 | <vagrantc> scotty_: but the logs suggest that LDM is connecting once as the user, and then tries to connect using the root user.
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| 22:24 | <scotty_> oh, so in the lts.conf file, the rdp just acts as a forward to the real (windoze) rdp server?
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| 22:24 | <vagrantc> scotty_: LDM does make two login attempts, effectively, the first sets up a "master" connection, and the second uses that master connection to log in a second time
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| 22:25 | <scotty_> yes. just not sure why
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| 22:25 | <scotty_> the second through ssh, correct?
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| 22:25 | <vagrantc> maybe for some bizarre reason it's failing to create the master socket, and so it attempts to ssh to the server as root?
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| 22:25 | both through ssh.
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| 22:26 | <scotty_> that was a stupid question, sorry :-) obviously.
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| 22:26 | hmmm. looked through the audit log, not much help there either.
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| 22:26 | <vagrantc> that's the only thing i can think of ... 10.0.0.108 is your thin client?
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| 22:26 | <scotty_> another odd thing, it doesn't create and ldm log in var/log
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| 22:27 | an ldm log tha tis
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| 22:27 | * vagrantc wishes fedora/redhat/centos/scientificlinux would just drop LTSP entirely rather than ship broken packages all these years | |
| 22:27 | <vagrantc> though i really wish someone would come along and maintain it properly
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| 22:28 | scotty_: on the client or on the server?
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| 22:28 | <scotty_> yes, 108 is the thn client.
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| 22:28 | no ldm log on server.
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| 22:29 | should there be one on the client? Am I lbarking up the wrong tree?
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| 22:29 | <vagrantc> yes, ldm runs on the client, not on the server.
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| 22:29 | ldm is basically a GUI frontend for "ssh -X"
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| 22:29 | <scotty_> ahh.. thanks for that. let me try a shell login on it.
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| 22:29 | * vagrantc tells small white lies to protect the truth | |
| 22:30 | <scotty_> :-)
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| 22:31 | edited lts.conf, restarting client
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| 22:31 | doe the debian version use ndb or nfs?
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| 22:32 | nbd... dyslexic fingers
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| 22:34 | ok.. ldm.log on client doesn't help a lot.
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| 22:34 | <vagrantc> it can use either
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| 22:34 | or even AOE
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| 22:34 | defaults to NFS
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| 22:37 | <scotty_> getting "started on client with ip address: 10.0.0.108, then calling rc.d init scripts, then calling rc.d pressh scripts, then authentication with backend ssh, then tarted on client with ip address: 10.0.0.108, then calling rc.d init scripts repeating. Guessing the first sucessfully authed witht he user, then many retries with root
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| 22:37 | cool, nfs I know better
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| 22:39 | * vagrantc may need to sqitch to squashfs images via NFS for the future if overlay in the kernel doesn't get fixed to work with NFS | |
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| 22:40 | <scotty_> Do you have docs online to read your work / howtos?
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| 22:42 | So you recommedn I wait till saturday to get latest deb release then, or go with current?
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| 22:43 | <vagrantc> you can try out the pre-release ... not much is likely to change in the next few days
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| 22:45 | i would definitely not recommend installing the current stable release, no reason to start with something soon to be deprecated :)
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| 22:45 | <scotty_> Thanks, may give a try to get teh feel of things
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| 22:45 | <vagrantc> (when soon is literally 3 days)
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| 22:45 | i gotta head out, but good luck!
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| 22:45 | * vagrantc waves | |
| 22:46 | <scotty_> be well, thanks again!
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