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Channel log from 16 July 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:26 | <Briareos1> when i boot my client i end up in a prompt (initramfs) - at what stage could that happen? where should i investigate first?
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| 02:26 | <alkisg> Briareos1: check if you have another dhcp server in your network
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| 02:36 | <Briareos1> i have one dhcp server in 192.168.1.0 and one on the ltsp for 192.168.3.0. but the ltsp has an additional interface in network 192.168.1.0 - is that problematic?
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| 02:38 | <alkisg> If that interfaces is totally isolated (on a seperate switch etc) then there isn't a problem
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| 02:38 | But if both of them are on the same switch (or many connected switches) then yes, it's a problem
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| 02:39 | <Briareos1> hmm i got an idea ... it could be that the dhcp of my LTSP is not only bound to that 192.168.3 - interface, but that it also tries to answer in the 192.168.1 interface - I'll have a look ...
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| 02:40 | <alkisg> Briareos1: no, that's done automaticaly based on its IP - unless you changed it somehow.
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| 02:40 | Before the initramfs prompt, you should be seeing the output of a program called ipconfig. See the ROOTSERVER line, it should match your LTSP server's IP...
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| 02:41 | <Briareos1> alkisg: the thing is that there's also definitions for the 192.168.1.0 network in the dhcpd.conf -> as we finally want to close down the second dhcp -> finally the ltsp should provide ip's on the 3.-interface AND on the 1.-interface
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| 02:43 | <alkisg> In any case your LTSP dhcp server shouldn't give you an initramfs prompt, it's the other server that is the problem here...
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| 02:44 | <Briareos1> ah ok
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| 02:44 | then I'll disable the second dhcp at very first to see if that's the problem
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| 02:45 | <alkisg> Sounds like a plan :)
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| 02:52 | <Briareos1> my colleague just said it is disabled :/ I told him to take out the network cable from the 1-interface for testing - the problem persists
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| 02:52 | <alkisg> Briareos1: ok, what distro/version is that?
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| 02:53 | <Briareos1> 8.04 - i just noticed that he only tried one specific (pretty old) client. now he's trying another one
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| 02:54 | <alkisg> sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default => remove quit splash from there to better see the error messages
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| 03:02 | <Briareos1> http://pastebin.org/2483 , alkisg, this is what we are seeing. i noticed the DNS are still set incorrectly - but does that matter? 192.168.3.7 is the ip of the ltsp
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| 03:08 | <alkisg> 192.168.3.143 broadcast: 192.168.1.255 ==> looks like your dhcpd.conf is wrong
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| 03:08 | Can you upload your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf ?
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| 03:08 | Briareos1: ^^^
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| 03:09 | <Briareos1> alkisg i'll ask my colleague - actually i am just trying to help him out on me free day (from home), 'cause he needs to solve the problem 'til tomorrow :D
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| 03:11 | <alkisg> Tell him to join #ltsp (e.g. by visiting http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ltsp), it'll be easier for him...
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| 03:16 | <Briareos1> there he is - CTShadow - alkisg is helping us - thank you, btw :)
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| 03:21 | <alkisg> Np.... CTShadow, can you upload your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to pastebin?
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| 03:44 | <Briareos1> dunno where he is
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| 03:50 | <CTShadow> alkisg: hi, thanks for helping. our dhcpd.conf: http://www.pastebin.org/2487
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| 03:50 | <alkisg> OK as I understand it, the final result you want is for the LTSP server to act as a dhcp server on both interfaces, right?
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| 03:52 | <CTShadow> alkisg: right, on the one interface the dhcp should work for 192.168.1 IPs and on the other for the 192.168.3 IPs. the 192.168.3 is the LTSP interface
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| 03:55 | <alkisg> CTShadow: ok, I'll post a proposed dhcpd.conf after I finish something I'm doing...
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| 03:57 | <CTShadow> alkisg: thanks. FYI, i've also pasted the error message i get at the client: http://www.pastebin.org/2488
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| 03:58 | <alkisg> CTShadow: yes, the main problem is that the broadcasting address if for one network and the IP on the other:
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| 03:58 | address: 192.168.3.143 broadcast: 192.168.1.255 netmask: 255.255.255.0
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| 04:00 | <CTShadow> sorry, that was an old try, bcast now should be 192.168.3.255 as in the dhcpd.conf
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| 04:05 | <alkisg> CTShadow: try commenting out the following lines:
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| 04:05 | next-server 192.168.3.7;
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| 04:06 | option broadcast-address 192.168.3.255;
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| 04:06 | option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
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| 04:06 | These are outside of any pools....
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| 04:06 | Then do: sudo invoke-rc.d dhcp3-server restart
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| 04:06 | And restart a client to see if it got any better
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| 04:13 | <k3j0_> hi all!
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| 04:14 | ive somekind broken my complete system while configuring likewise/winbind - I rebooted and now im not able to login anymore console says:Permission denied, xsession: The System administrator has disabled access to the system temporarily. And atm i cant acces the ubuntuforums.. any ideas?
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| 04:16 | ah great forums are back
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| 04:17 | <CTShadow> alkisg: have tried it -> still exactly the same
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| 04:19 | <alkisg> CTShadow: You still get a broadcast address that's out of the subnet?
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| 04:20 | <CTShadow> sorry, that was an old try, bcast now should be 192.168.3.255 as in the dhcpd.conf
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| 04:22 | <Briareos1> CTShadow: is the cable of the 1-interface still detached?
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| 04:23 | * ogra wonders if alkisg noticed "Error: Connect: Connection refused" in the log ... | |
| 04:23 | <alkisg> ogra, isn't that always displayed even if the server cannot be contacted?
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| 04:23 | address: 192.168.3.143 broadcast: 192.168.1.255 => it couldn't contact anything at all :)
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| 04:24 | <ogra> why shouldnt it be possible to contact it ?
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| 04:24 | yeah, thats surely broken
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| 04:24 | <alkisg> The broadcast address is outside of the network id :)
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| 04:24 | <ogra> but if it still doesnt work i'd suggest checking inetd and nbdrootd etc etc
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| 04:25 | <alkisg> CTShadow: does the rootserver: 192.168.3.7 ... line now show the correct server NIC?
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| 04:29 | <CTShadow> Briareos1: no it was not when i tried first, now i've tried it with detatched cable at eth0 -> still the same
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| 04:30 | <Briareos1> i'd say better leave it detached until booting from the clients work, CTShadow
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| 04:31 | <alkisg> CTShadow: first, let's verify that it gets the correct network settings.
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| 04:31 | E.g. I don't even see a filename in the pastebin log
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| 04:32 | It should be something along these lines, assuming your LTSP-facing NIC is the one with address=192.168.3.7:
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| 04:32 | address: 192.168.3.143 broadcast: 192.168.3.255 netmask: 255.255.255.0 gateway: 192.168.3.7 dns0: 192.168.1.3 dns1: 192.168.2.2 rootserver: 192.168.3.7 filename:ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 04:32 | If anything of those is missing or is wrong, then it's still a dhcpd.conf problem.
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| 04:33 | If those are OK, then we can try mounting nbd manually from the initramfs to see the exact error.
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| 04:34 | <CTShadow> alkisg: it gets the IP 192.168.3.143 -> correctnetwork, broadcast: 192.168.3.255 -> correct, netmask: 255.255.255.0 -> correct, gateway: 192.168.3.7 (= the server itself -> correct?), rootserver: 192.168.3.7 -> correct, rootpath: /opt/ltsp/i386 -> correct, filename: <nothing> -> correct?
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| 04:35 | <ogra> filename is wrong
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| 04:35 | <alkisg> The filename is wrong because it's not a PXEClient
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| 04:35 | It sends a "Linux ipconfig" in that stage
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| 04:35 | <ogra> ah
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| 04:35 | <alkisg> But that's not a big problem, it'll just lose the lts.conf. We'll fix that later.
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| 04:35 | Ok, let me see the exact nbd mounting command...
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| 04:36 | <ogra> right, make sure openbsd-inetd is set up correctly on the server
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| 04:36 | and inetd.conf has the proper entries for nbdrootd
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| 04:37 | <alkisg> ok...
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| 04:38 | (ogra, if you have the time, do suggest the specific instructions for what you have in your mind...)
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| 04:38 | <ogra> ps ax|grep inetd :)
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| 04:38 | grep nbd /etc/inetd.conf
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| 04:39 | and make sure openbsd-inetd is the actually used inetd:
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| 04:39 | dpkg -l openbsd-inetd|grep ^ii
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| 04:42 | <alkisg> The command to try nbd-client is (while inside the initramfs prompt): nbd-client 192.168.3.7 2000 /dev/nbd0 -persist
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| 04:44 | <CTShadow> when running ps ax|grep inetd i see that this is running: /usr/sbin/xinetd -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid -stayalive -inetd_compat
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| 04:48 | <CTShadow> ogra: how do i use openbsd-inetd instead of xinetd
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| 04:49 | <ogra> sudo apt-get remove --purge xinetd && sudo apt-get install openbsd-inetd
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| 04:50 | and hope that ltsp could configured inetd.conf during client build ... i'm not sure xinetd even installs update-inetd
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| 04:50 | which means you might have an empty inetd.conf
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| 04:51 | <Briareos1> why openbsd-ined instead of xinetd?
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| 04:51 | <ogra> stgraber, we should consider dropping inet-superserver from the ltsp-server deps
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| 04:51 | it causes to much breakage
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| 04:53 | because xinetd isnt shippable for ubuntu due to licensing, so openbsd-inetd is the default inetd used in ubuntu and debian, all automated setup uses inetd.conf ...
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| 04:53 | you *can* use xinetd but have to do all setup yourself
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| 04:55 | <Briareos1> ah i see ... on my (non ltsp) linux install it's openbsd ... i thought xinetd would be default on any linux 8.04
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| 04:56 | <ogra> nope
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| 04:56 | cant be put on the CD and thats a clear showstopper
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| 04:56 | <Briareos1> why was it chosen for ltsp in the first place?
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| 04:56 | <ogra> xinetd ? was never chosen or used for ltsp
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| 04:56 | <CTShadow> alkisg: when trying nbd-client 192.168.3.7 2000 /dev/nbd0 -persist i get "Connect: Connection refused"
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| 04:57 | <Briareos1> why is it installed then, CTShadow ?
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| 04:57 | <ogra> i assume you installed something that pulled it in
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| 04:57 | try to remove it (dont say yes if apt asks if you want to proceed to just see the list) and apt will tell you what
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| 04:58 | <CTShadow> no, i saw a solution in a forum, where xinetd was used
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| 04:58 | <Briareos1> solution to which problem?
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| 04:58 | <ogra> right, as i said, you can use it, but have to care for the setup yourself
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| 04:58 | and you have to adjust the config on upgrades etc
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| 04:59 | <alkisg> CTShadow: if you otherwise modified the default setup, it would be nice to mention it, it would provide some more insight to the problem... :)
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| 04:59 | <ogra> xinetd is simply not integrated in ltsp5 on debian and ubuntu
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| 04:59 | patches accepted ;)
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| 04:59 | <CTShadow> Briareos1: the one we try to resolve now
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| 04:59 | <Briareos1> lol
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| 05:02 | <CTShadow> ogra: it says that the following packages would be removed: ltsp-server* tftpd-hpa* xinetd*
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| 05:02 | <ogra> intresting, then i dont get how it got installed first place
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| 05:03 | if you didnt dliberately install it for anything or removed the package that pulled it in inbetween
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| 05:03 | ltsp-server clearly has "openbsd-inetd | inet-superserver" in its dependencies ...
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| 05:04 | that means, if nothing is installed already that provides inet-superserver, forcefully pull in openbsd-inetd
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| 05:04 | so xinetd was installed before ltsp-server was attempted to install
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| 05:05 | <Briareos1> ogra, CTShadow said he installed xinetd on purpose to try to resolve the current issue of clients not booting
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| 05:05 | <CTShadow> hmm, do you think it would be useful to reinstall the ltsp-server package with all its dependencies
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| 05:05 | <ogra> which means ltsp assumes that you want to configure the program providing inet-superserver manually
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| 05:05 | just install openbsd-inetd and uninstall xinetd afterwards
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| 05:06 | <CTShadow> k, i'll try that
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| 05:06 | <ogra> that will solve the dependency issue ... though i'm not sure you have a proper inetd.conf now
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| 05:06 | grep nbd /etc/inetd.conf
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| 05:07 | and: grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf
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| 05:07 | to make sure all services you need are there
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| 05:08 | <CTShadow> root@helios:/home/vl# grep nbd /etc/inetd.conf
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| 05:08 | 9572 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdswapd
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| 05:08 | 2000 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
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| 05:08 | # 2001 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd /opt/ltsp/images/amd64.img
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| 05:09 | <ogra> looks fine
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| 05:09 | <CTShadow> grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf gives no results
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| 05:09 | <ogra> sudo dpkg-reconfigure tftpd-hpa
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| 05:10 | (make sure to tell it to start from inetd if there are any questions)
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| 05:10 | and then grep again
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| 05:11 | <CTShadow> i have done that, still no results
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| 05:12 | <ogra> update-inetd --group BOOT --add "tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot"
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| 05:12 | run that command (with sudo)
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| 05:13 | and restart openbsd-inetd
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| 05:13 | then boot a client
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| 05:14 | <CTShadow> done
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| 05:23 | hey, that works, thanks to all. but now i get "The workstation is not allowed to access server" at the ubuntu login-screen
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| 05:24 | <ogra> sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-image --arch i386
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| 05:24 | make sure your interfaces are both up if you run that and wnat to login on both via ltsp
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| 05:25 | <CTShadow> actually i only want to login via ltsp via one interface
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| 05:27 | <ogra> well, then make sure at least this one is up
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| 05:28 | ltsp-update-sshkeys generates the keys for the configured interfaces based on the IP ... ltsp-update-sshkeys is usually run from ltsp-build-client, if you change the IP later you need to re-run it (and re-roll the image) to update the key to the new IP
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| 05:29 | <amirul> amirul_: you're fuckin' nick thief :P
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| 05:29 | <alkisg> Hmmm... true, that could be used as a complementary security mechanism, to have the interface down before updating the ssh keys. Too bad that ltsp-update-sshkeys only *adds* keys and doesn't remove the old entries, though...
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| 05:30 | <ogra> alkisg, patches accepted, you know that ;)
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| 05:30 | you could add a --purge switch
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| 05:30 | <alkisg> ogra, I'm trying, but it's difficult to get them to be accepted :)
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| 05:30 | Let me see how the udhcpc patches fare first...
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| 05:31 | <ogra> the MIR needs to go through
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| 05:31 | <ogra> then it should be trivial
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| 05:32 | * alkisg has its summer full, he has to debianize about 10Gb of windows-based educational software... :( | |
| 05:33 | <alkisg> flash, wine etc
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| 05:33 | <ogra> shudder
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| 05:33 | * ogra goes back to work on project-rootstock | |
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| 05:40 | <CTShadow> thanks ogra, everything woks fine now
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| 05:40 | <ogra> ;)
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| 05:42 | <Briareos1> ogra, alkisg, thanks for the great support. if you're in carinthia/austria some day i'll invite you for some drinks.
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| 05:42 | <ogra> great you got it working
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| 05:42 | <alkisg> You're welcome guys, but I did too little here, it was ogra mostly.
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| 05:43 | <k3j0_> oh god i cant use sudo anymore... I switched to recovery-mode and checked visudo everything is right...
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| 05:50 | <alkisg> k3j0_: is the user a member of the adm/admin group?
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| 06:34 | <k3j0_> when ive done ltsp-build-client do i have then to run ltsp-update-image??
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| 06:40 | <vagrantc> only if you change the chroot afterwards
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| 06:49 | <ogra> which you shouldnt do anyway normally
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| 07:17 | <k3j0_> okay
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| 07:17 | yeah finally we managed to login :D
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| 07:19 | ogra: but if i want to use specific software with my clients i have to change the chroot or not?
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| 07:20 | <ogra> no
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| 07:22 | <k3j0_> and how do i then add software?
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| 07:22 | <ogra> only for installing localapps you need to change the chroot ...
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| 07:22 | <k3j0_> k
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| 07:23 | so i only have to install it on my server
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| 07:23 | <ogra> but the desktop session still runs on the server
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| 07:23 | <k3j0_> k
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| 07:23 | <ogra> so all *normal* software needs to go on the server
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| 07:24 | <k3j0_> kk
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| 08:38 | <sbalneav> .....Gentlemen.
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| 08:38 | * sbalneav straightens tie. | |
| 08:39 | <_UsUrPeR_> !s
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| 08:39 | <ltspbot> _UsUrPeR_: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 08:42 | <sbalneav> Morning, _UsUrPeR_
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| 08:46 | <rjune_wrk> !s
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| 08:46 | <ltspbot> rjune_wrk: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 08:53 | <sbalneav> hello rjune
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| 09:09 | !docs
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| 09:09 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
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| 09:10 | <sbalneav> Anybody about can help me with *YET ANOTHER FREAKING PROBLEM WITH *&@&^%@$(^! BZR*
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| 09:11 | Gah, this is frustrating
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| 09:11 | ltsp-docs-trunk is at rev 83
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| 09:11 | sbalneav@titan:~/Devel/ltsp-docs-trunk$ bzr revno
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| 09:11 | 82
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| 09:11 | sbalneav@titan:~/Devel/ltsp-docs-trunk$ bzr pull
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| 09:11 | Using saved parent location: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-docwriters/ltsp/ltsp-docs-trunk/
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| 09:12 | No revisions to pull.
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| 09:12 | What's up with that?
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| 09:12 | <ogra> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-docwriters/ltsp/ltsp-docs-trunk/changes doesnt show a 83
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| 09:13 | <sbalneav> Well, it SHOULD be at 83 :(
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| 09:13 | wahhhh!
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| 09:13 | <ogra> no
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| 09:13 | upstream is at 83
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| 09:13 | trunk is at 82
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| 09:13 | <sbalneav> Oh, crap.
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| 09:14 | <ogra> https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-docwriters
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| 09:15 | <stgraber> ogra: agreed (for allowing only openbsd-inetd)
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| 09:16 | <rjune_wrk> LOL
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| 09:16 | all better now sbalneav?
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| 09:17 | <sbalneav> I shouldn't even *have* an upstream, sigh, I must have mistyped something.
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| 09:18 | I know all these problems are related to my own stupidity. Perhaps I shouldn't be killing those bzr neurons with beer?
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| 09:18 | <rjune_wrk> sbalneav: keep the beer
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| 09:18 | <sbalneav> Oh, didn't say I was going to stop. But I'm always perfectly happy to acknowledge the problem :)
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| 09:19 | OK, so my branch at home must be auto-pushing to -upstream instead of trunk.
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| 09:19 | <Blinny> sbalneav: http://sandcreekbeernews.blogspot.com/2008/10/cliff-clavin-knows-his-stuff.html (sfw)
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| 09:19 | <sbalneav> How do I make bzr "forget" where it's remembered to push to?
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| 09:20 | 'cuz usually I just do a "bzr push/bzr pull" without typing out the long url
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| 09:21 | <ogra> push to the new location with --remember
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| 09:21 | it will overwrite the former one
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| 09:21 | <sbalneav> ah-HAH
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| 09:24 | There, deleted -upstream
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| 09:27 | <ogra> and trunk is at 83
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| 09:31 | <_UsUrPeR_> stgraber: ping
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| 09:31 | <jammcq> Good morning Amigos
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| 09:41 | <Blinny> I'm trying to add a zenity progress bar to a file synchronization script being run at user logon. Is there anything special I need to do to make this work? The script is run from /etc/X11/Xsession.d/
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| 09:48 | <highvoltage> holas amigo jammcq
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| 10:09 | <pem725> I was using ltsp-5 for over a year when after a server reboot my tftp connection times out for all my clients. Is there a way for me to troubleshoot the tftp server via logs? None of my configs changed (i.e., dhcpd.conf) but I am sure ubuntu updated something that may have broken tftp. Where should I start? TIA
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| 10:10 | <_UsUrPeR_> pem725: take a look at your /var/log/syslog
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| 10:10 | while booting a client
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| 10:10 | see if there's any errors popping up
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| 10:11 | pem725: I assume the client stops booting after it receives an IP address via DHCP?
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| 10:11 | <pem725> I am not getting any errors - the dhcp assigns an address and then tftp times out.
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| 10:13 | <pem725> yes, the client stops booting after it receives an IP address.
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| 10:14 | <_UsUrPeR_> pem725: what happens if you run /etc/init.d/xinetd restart?
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| 10:15 | <ogra> _UsUrPeR_, s/xinetd/openbds-inetd/
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| 10:15 | <_UsUrPeR_> whoops! :D
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| 10:15 | that was Fedora wasn't it? :P
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| 10:15 | <CAN-o-SPAM> bieb: i was able to speed things up for you ... did you get word of the e-mail :) ?
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| 10:15 | <ogra> yeah
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| 10:16 | <bieb> no.. Roderick is on a conference call.. so I havent heard
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| 10:16 | <_UsUrPeR_> pem725: also try /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa restart
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| 10:16 | <pem725> I'm restarting both
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| 10:16 | <_UsUrPeR_> pem725: are you running any weird iptables setups?
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| 10:16 | also: firewall?
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| 10:17 | <ogra> _UsUrPeR_, tftp should not run standalone for netbooting
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| 10:17 | <pem725> yes but on another NIC
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| 10:17 | <_UsUrPeR_> I stand corrected :)
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| 10:17 | <ogra> by default its run by inetd
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| 10:17 | <pem725> I notice there is a tftp line now in inetd.conf. Should it be there?
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| 10:17 | <bieb> CAN-o-SPAM: so what is the good word?? :D
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| 10:17 | <ogra> yes, and the tftp server should be started from it
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| 10:17 | <pem725> OK
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| 10:18 | <CAN-o-SPAM> bieb: you got lucky, another customer ahead of you was very nice and flexible, therefore, your's shipped yesterday.
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| 10:18 | <pem725> works!
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| 10:18 | <_UsUrPeR_> :D
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| 10:18 | yay
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| 10:18 | <pem725> thanks greatly for the help.
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| 10:18 | <ogra> though your problem sounds more like a dhcp prob, are you sure there is exactly only one dhcp server running in your network ?
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| 10:18 | <bieb> CAN-o-SPAM: you are da man!!
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| 10:18 | <ogra> oh, k
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| 10:18 | <pem725> it sounds as if the inetd needed a restart but I wonder if it will start by default from now on. I will tackle that later today.
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| 10:19 | thanks _UsUrPeR_. Much appreciated.
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| 10:19 | <bieb> CAN-o-SPAM: I would have settled for starting with 2 for my testing.. But glad they are on the way...
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| 10:19 | <_UsUrPeR_> pem725: np.
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| 10:19 | * _UsUrPeR_ tips my hat to ogra | |
| 10:20 | <_UsUrPeR_> I am having an issue with iTalc. I had it working on a client yesterday, came in today to show CAN-o-SPAM my awesome progress, and the client I had working yesterday is "Host unreachable" today :(
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| 10:20 | running a tail -f on /tmp/italc-master.log, I am seeing the following error:
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| 10:20 | <ogra> plug the cable back in ;)
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| 10:21 | <_UsUrPeR_> [warning] isdConnection::readFromServer(): server closed connection: 1
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| 10:21 | als: [warning] isdConnection::readFromServer(): server closed connection: 5
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| 10:21 | s/als/also
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| 10:22 | when I go to monitor one of the clients by entering the IP, I can see the cursor flash, and according to a wireshark, I am seeing ack transmissions between the client and server.
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| 10:22 | Nothing about denials
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| 10:37 | <alkisg> _UsUrPeR_: which installation method did you use? The one that installs italc in the chroot?
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| 10:39 | <_UsUrPeR_> alkisg: yeah.
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| 10:39 | was that a bad way to go?
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| 10:39 | <alkisg> Well, harder :)
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| 10:39 | <_UsUrPeR_> oh :/
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| 10:39 | <alkisg> It does have the benefit of controlling the clients before they logon, though...
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| 10:40 | <_UsUrPeR_> alkisg: I had wanted to get that working
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| 10:40 | <alkisg> Is ica running locally on the client? Did you check?
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| 10:41 | <_UsUrPeR_> yeah. It's running -isd port 5800 -ivsport 5900
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| 10:41 | that's on the client
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| 10:41 | also /bin/sh /usr/bin/ica-launcher
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| 10:41 | <alkisg> There should be 2 ica processes on the client
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| 10:41 | ica -noshm -isdport 5800 -ivsport 5900
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| 10:41 | /usr/bin/ica -rx11vs -noshm -nosel -nosetclipboard -rfbport 5900 -rx11vs -isdport 5800 -role other
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| 10:41 | <_UsUrPeR_> there is. the first was ica
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| 10:42 | the second is /usr/bin/ica
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| 10:42 | that's what I have exactly
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| 10:42 | <alkisg> OK. You said that it was worning yesterday, so you did transfer the ica ssh keys, right?
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| 10:43 | *working
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| 10:44 | <_UsUrPeR_> strangely, no. I did not. I realized that I had installed from the hardy ppa instead of jaunty. so I re-installed, and added an IP after re-installation, and it worked :D
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| 10:44 | speaking of keys: what needs to be shared between them? Just the "teacher" group for /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/italc/keys/private?
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| 10:45 | or do I actually need to move a key elsewere?
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| 10:45 | <alkisg> Hmmm someone had made a wiki page with detailed instructions, lemme see.
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| 10:45 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/iTalc
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| 10:46 | <_UsUrPeR_> alkisg: those are the instructions I followed
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| 10:47 | <alkisg> Yeah I notice that the key-copying isn't documented there though, I thought I was... /me checks
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| 10:47 | <_UsUrPeR_> that's actually why I had used hardy for the ppa: I copy-pasted from their entry
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| 10:51 | <alkisg> _UsUrPeR_: well, unless something that I don't know about handles this automatically, you should copy the server keys to the chroot for italc to work.
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| 10:51 | <_UsUrPeR_> ahh! :D
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| 10:51 | * _UsUrPeR_ tries that | |
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| 10:58 | <_UsUrPeR_> alkisg: yay!
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| 10:58 | <alkisg> heh! I wonder why it isn't on the wiki page, though... Could you put it there?
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| 10:58 | <_UsUrPeR_> I believe I could, yes 8)
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| 11:10 | <_UsUrPeR_> hmm
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| 12:00 | <Blinny> Indeed.
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| 12:01 | * Lns wonders if Gentoo will ever get closer to LTSP than 'very close' ;) | |
| 12:02 | <ogra> the day johnny gets his new laptop :)
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| 12:02 | <Lns> =p
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| 12:03 | <bieb> which one you getting Ogra?
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| 12:03 | <ogra> ??
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| 12:03 | <bieb> laptop
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| 12:04 | <ogra> i was talking about johhny, not me ...
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| 12:04 | its his standard excuse if you ask him why he hasnt gentoo finished yet :)
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| 12:04 | <bieb> ohh.. thought you were talking 3rd person
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| 12:04 | <Lns> little does anyone know that ogra and johnny are actually a man-bear hybrid
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| 12:04 | <ogra> .... because his laptop is to outdated ;)
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| 12:04 | <bieb> I see
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| 12:04 | :)
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| 12:05 | <ogra> johnny surely has shorter hair than me ... but nicer hats :)
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| 12:10 | <Lns> ogra, what have you been working on lately?
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| 12:11 | <ogra> https://launchpad.net/project-rootstock
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| 12:13 | <Lns> wow
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| 12:14 | sounds cool =)
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| 12:32 | <rjune_wrk> ogra: ping?
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| 13:31 | <CAN-o-SPAM> bieb: you there?
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| 14:11 | <bieb> CAN-o-SPAM: Yeah Alex.. right here
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| 14:20 | <CAN-o-SPAM> bieb: Guess i jumped the gun, thought they shipped yesterday, but apparently they are shipping today ... Either way, better than the EOM :)
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| 14:22 | <bieb> true
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| 14:23 | I appreciate your help
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| 14:35 | <_UsUrPeR_> Is wake on LAN something that the OS controls at all?
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| 14:35 | or is that all hardware?
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| 14:37 | nm, found article on help.ubuntu.com
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| 15:16 | <_UsUrPeR_> lns: ping
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| 15:59 | <Lns> _UsUrPeR_, pong
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| 15:59 | <_UsUrPeR_> lns: gotta go actually. You got time tomorrow?
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| 15:59 | lns: the ping was pertaining to WOL
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| 15:59 | <Lns> possibly, not sure. you can always try =)
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| 16:00 | <Lns> _UsUrPeR_, WoL is pretty much a BIOS thing but it bleeds into OS function too afaik
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| 16:00 | <Lns> for example I had to set some things in Linux to set WoL on my NIC to a certain setting so it doesn't turn off something in the firmware or some such...i forget exactly what it was
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| 16:00 | <_UsUrPeR_> I had seen an entry you had on the help.ubuntu page. I didn't know if you were a foremost expert on the matter.
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| 16:01 | <Lns> it's probably documented in that wiki page
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| 16:01 | i wouldn't call myself an expert, but i did make the automated shutdown/startup pages
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| 16:01 | <_UsUrPeR_> I saw that
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| 16:01 | quite nifty :)
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| 16:01 | <Lns> thanks =) it works wel
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| 16:01 | well*
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| 16:02 | <_UsUrPeR_> well, I guess I'll just be out with it: I have not gotten wakeonlan to work with any of our thin clients
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| 16:02 | and I have been trying :/
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| 16:02 | <Lns> _UsUrPeR_, dw?
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| 16:02 | <_UsUrPeR_> ?
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| 16:02 | yeah
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| 16:02 | <Lns> hrm
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| 16:02 | <_UsUrPeR_> disklessworkstations
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| 16:02 | <Lns> I didn't have any issues w/my pxe 1220
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| 16:02 | <_UsUrPeR_> see, that's weird
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| 16:02 | <Lns> it was the koolu i had to mess with
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| 16:02 | <_UsUrPeR_> It's just "wakeonlan <mac address>" correct?
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| 16:03 | <Lns> should be
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| 16:03 | BIOS is set up ?
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| 16:03 | /usr/bin/wakeonlan 00:13:90:02:7f:0c (in my crontab)
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| 16:04 | running as root?
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| 16:04 | <_UsUrPeR_> BIOS should be set up, but yeah: running as root
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| 16:04 | running wireshark, I can see the broadcasts
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| 16:05 | anyway, I'm outta here. I'll see what's what tomorrow.
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| 16:05 | have a good night
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| 16:05 | <Lns> you too
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| 16:06 | _UsUrPeR_, if you get the chance, 'man ethtool'
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| 16:06 | for my koolu i had to make a script - which contained "ethtool -s eth0 wol g "
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| 16:07 | during bootup...it wouldn't wake up otherwise
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| 17:38 | <vagrantc> !seen gadi
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| 17:38 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: gadi was last seen in #ltsp 1 day, 7 hours, 28 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <Gadi> from that page
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| 17:45 | <Lns> Anyone know of the current status of Audacity in ltsp?
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| 17:53 | <Ryan52> it should work, shouldn't it?
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| 17:55 | <Lns> Ryan52, last I heard there were issues revolving around audacity's use of alsa exclusively and how it worked (or didn't work) with PA
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| 17:55 | that *was* a few months ago, though...not sure if anything's changed.
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| 17:55 | <Ryan52> oh
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