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Channel log from 27 November 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:28 | <dkostousov> Hi.
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| 01:30 | <alkisg> Hi
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| 01:39 | <dkostousov> How I can manualy logout user from server?
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| 01:40 | <alkisg> Do you have italc installed? It has such a function.
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| 02:01 | <dkostousov> Should I install italc on server?
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| 02:01 | Hm... Fedora have no package italc
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| 02:05 | <alkisg> In Ubuntu all you have to do is install the italc-master package. Then you can see the client screen, log them out, execute commands on them etc.
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| 02:06 | http://italc.sourceforge.net/
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| 02:06 | <dkostousov> hm...
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| 02:08 | <sep> dkostousov, kill his processes. pkill -u might help you
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| 02:10 | <dkostousov> thx
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| 02:12 | <alkisg> Isn't that too brutal?
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| 02:12 | I.e. might mess with the filesystem?
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| 02:15 | <sep> user processes does not access the filesystem directly. and regular kill (iow without -9) is more a "hay process. can you please quit now, pretty please) :)
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| 02:15 | the user will loose unsaved data ofcourse !
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| 02:18 | <alkisg> And doesn't the order of killing the processes matter?
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| 02:18 | E.g. what happens if you kill the ssh process first?
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| 03:33 | <ftherese> the wiki.ltsp.org documentation upstream seems to be down
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| 03:34 | what documentation should I look at to get a network scanner working on ltsp?
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| 03:34 | <cyberorg> ftherese, https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Main_Page
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| 03:37 | <ftherese> cyberorg: "Scanners (Page does not exist)"
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| 03:37 | <cyberorg> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
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| 04:32 | <ftherese> I've looked through the documentation and cannot find mention of network scanners for ltsp... please help
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| 04:32 | <Appiah> the documentation is being moved
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| 04:33 | try google cache or looking in the /usr/share/ltsp-docs?
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| 04:34 | <ftherese> anything I can look at for the time being? I have already searched through the documentation here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ltsp/files/Docs-Admin-Guide/LTSPManual.pdf/download
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| 04:34 | I can't find any mention of scanners
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| 04:34 | <Appiah> what are you trying to do?
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| 04:34 | scanner attached to thin client?
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| 04:40 | <ftherese> network scanner
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| 05:16 | <cyberorg> ftherese, that has nothing to do with ltsp, just follow instructions about network scanning, configure ltsp servers as client for scanner, all ltsp clients will be able to use that
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| 05:18 | <vicd> i'v got 2 scanners working in my network
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| 05:21 | attached to clients
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| 08:53 | <sbalneav> ftherese: I added some hooks for network scanning a few months ago, don't know if they've made it into release
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| 08:54 | Morning all
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| 14:13 | <[R]> hey
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| 14:18 | <nicku> hi
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| 14:19 | <[R]> so i'm trying to get this working... and in the ubuntu init scripts it makes a call to 'ipconfig'
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| 14:19 | and it hangs and all i see in wireshark are a million dhcp requests and my server isn't doing anything with them
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| 14:19 | <[R]> if i force the params to ipconfig then i can make it work... but i dont want to have to do that
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| 14:19 | is there somerthign configured wrong in my dhcp server?
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| 14:22 | <alkisg> version?
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| 14:22 | (ubuntu version)
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| 14:23 | [R], also post your dhcpd.conf to pastebin:
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| 14:23 | !pastebot
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| 14:23 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "pastebot" :: The LTSP pastebot is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 14:23 | <[R]> oh its ubuntu 9.10
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| 14:23 | and i'm actually using dnsmasq as my dhcp server
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| 14:24 | <alkisg> Ah, then your dnsmasq.conf misses some entry. Can you post it to pastebin?
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| 14:24 | <[R]> http://ltsp.pastebin.com/m49a9092
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| 14:25 | <alkisg> See this for an example: cat /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/examples/dhcpd-dnsmasq
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| 14:26 | Are you forcing ipconfig to be used? ubuntu 9.10 by default uses udhcpc...
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| 14:26 | <[R]> in the init scripts
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| 14:26 | it runs ipconfig
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| 14:26 | right after it does the udhcp
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| 14:26 | which is a little wierd
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| 14:26 | i did check out that exmaple, and added everyhting from there i dindt have, but that didnt seem to fix it
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| 14:27 | <vagrantc> typically, ipconfig is run from the initramfs, not from init scripts...
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| 14:27 | <alkisg> How do you see that it runs ipconfig?
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| 14:27 | Can you post the exact messages?
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| 14:28 | <[R]> i mean initramfs
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| 14:29 | well i was sticking echos and such in the initramfs code
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| 14:29 | but if i must... lemme get the message
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| 14:30 | <alkisg> [R]: ok, if you tried putting echos, can you point me to the code where it calls ipconfig after udhcpc?
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| 14:30 | Because that shouldn't happen in *any* case...
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| 14:31 | <[R]> hrm
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| 14:31 | well i'm actgually using hte mythbuntu stuff
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| 14:31 | maybe that has a bug in it then
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| 14:31 | <alkisg> mythbuntu has a different initramfs than ubuntu?
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| 14:31 | <[R]> for he mythbuntu diskless stuff
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| 14:31 | they have their own script that runs instead of the regular nfs one
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| 14:32 | i mena the regular nbd* one
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| 14:32 | <alkisg> Ah, I don't know about that then, maybe there's some incompatibility between the two
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| 14:32 | <[R]> i could probalby just use the normal ltsp scripts instead of the special mythbuntu ones
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| 14:33 | but if i'm looking at scripts/ltsp_nbd
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| 14:33 | <alkisg> The ltsp initramfs also gets lts.conf, and some other ltsp-specific stuff
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| 14:33 | <[R]> the first thing it does is call configure_networking
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| 14:33 | <alkisg> How would you pass lts.conf with the mythbuntu initramfs?
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| 14:33 | <[R]> mythbuntu doesnt use lts.conf
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| 14:33 | oh i see... in configure_networking if the interface is alreayd configured... it doesnt do the ipconfig call
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| 14:34 | <alkisg> Erm.... so this isn't an ltsp setup? It's a mythbuntu thing?
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| 14:34 | * alkisg has never used mythbuntu | |
| 14:34 | <[R]> well it uses the ltsp stuff
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| 14:34 | but i'm just gonna try a regular ltsp and see how it goes
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| 14:34 | another question though
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| 14:34 | my ROOTSERVER is being set to my dhcp server's ip
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| 14:34 | i can't figure out what i need to put in my dhcp config to make it put out the ip i want
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| 14:34 | is that part of the lts.conf?
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| 14:35 | <alkisg> You can put nbdroot= as a kernel parameter
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| 14:35 | (that's in pxelinux.cfg/default)
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| 14:35 | <[R]> yeah, tahts what i'm doing now
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| 14:35 | i want to avoid that if i can
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| 14:35 | <alkisg> Can you paste that line from your pxelinux.cfg/default?
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| 14:36 | And, why would you want to avoid that?
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| 14:36 | <[R]> because it should figure everyhting out automatically
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| 14:36 | without me telling it what to do
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| 14:37 | <alkisg> You mean that you'd like to be able to put nbdroot in dhcpd.conf instead of pxelinux.cfg?
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| 14:37 | I don't see much difference there...
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| 14:37 | <[R]> technically there isn't
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| 14:37 | maybe i'm just being stupid
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| 14:37 | lol
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| 14:37 | anyway, thanks for the info
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| 14:37 | i think i'm good
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| 14:37 | <alkisg> I didn't see any code that would take a different ROOTSERVER from dhcpd.conf
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| 14:38 | <alkisg> But what kind of option were you thinking to send from dhcpd.conf? A custom one?
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| 14:38 | <[R]> well the dhcp server is setting ROOTSERVER from some value
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| 14:38 | is it always just its ip?
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| 14:39 | <alkisg> Yes, it's the ip of the dhcp server
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| 14:39 | <[R]> oh... ok
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| 14:40 | well, thanks
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| 14:40 | <alkisg> np :)
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| 14:53 | <alkisg> How "cross-distro" is ConsoleKit? Would calling its `restart` d-bus method be cross-distro enough?
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| 16:19 | <kaos01> hi, how do I go about rebuilding the initrd image ?
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| 16:41 | <sbalneav> kaos01: initrd? or ltsp image?
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| 16:42 | <kaos01> initrd which gets loaded from teh tftp server
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| 16:43 | <kaos01> as im having problems in the network side gettign a DHCP address, so i like to modify it
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| 16:43 | <sbalneav> then use the initramfs-tools in the chroot
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| 16:45 | <kaos01> its the initrd in the PXE process i think i need to modify, as my clients can DHCP, download image via tftp, but than the second DHCP never succeeeds
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| 16:46 | can i just expand initrd with cpio, make changes than re-assemble it with cpio ?
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| 16:46 | all i want to try is to place a sleep before dhcp happens
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| 16:50 | <sbalneav> I'd use the tools.
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| 21:33 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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| 21:35 | * vagrantc waves | |
| 21:37 | <sbalneav> Hey vagrantc
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| 21:38 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: when you hosting a hackfest in winnepeg? :)
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| 21:39 | <sbalneav> I could, if people were interested. I haven't got anything cool like my own business or freegeek, though. :(
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| 21:48 | * vagrantc spent a couple days in winnepeg last millenia in february or so | |
| 21:52 | <sbalneav> heh, bad time to spend in Winnipeg. :)
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